A book for babies?

2015-08-29 Thread Richmond
If you are*NOT* interested in teaching *small children* /LiveCode/ stop 
reading now.


---

Having taught a reasonably successful, relatively intensive course to 
*Primary level**
**children* during the summer, and starting a once-a-week thing in 
October I am quite

seriously thinking of putting together a *book* for Primary kids.

This would *NOT* be full of theorising, and *NOT* like a 'standard' text 
book; rather a

hands-on cookery book.

Obviously, a significant part of this book will be pictorial.

HOWEVER . . .

Seeing the vast and significant changes coming with *LiveCode 8.0.0.*

[and, to be honest, all I taught the children was doable in LC 4.5]

including its interface changes (at the moment I'm thinking of the 
*preferences**

**palette* and the *toolBar* stack) . . .

I am really wondering what the point is, as, any book I start on now 
will either feature screen shots
of the *LC 7 interface* or the *LC 8 alpha interface*; both of which may 
go down the pan just as my book

is ready.

ALSO . . . my course that will run from October to May will us LC 7 
(especially as the LC 8 series is in a state
of flux) . . . so any extra stuff arising (and, with hindsight, I can 
see lots of gaps that need to be plugged) will

also be framed in terms of the LC 7 interface.

As soon as a FIXED interface for LC 8 (???) is released I will have 
to sit down and make myself
comfortable with it even before I start dishing it out either to kids in 
class or in the form of a book.


--

I should be glad of any advice, comments, and so on about my quandary.

--

In the light of some favourable responses I am wondering about releasing 
beta versions of my chapters under a non-disclosure
agreement to interested parties to torture their children with on the 
understanding that they will 'pay' for them by giving

me vigorous feedback.

--

In light of the discussions anent a possible 'unified IDE' ['that' 
picture], I also would like to know what chances
there are of that sort of thing being on the cards, whether it would be 
locked-in [heaven forfend] or optional,
and so on, as, were it to be present in LC 8.x.x it might be necessary 
to write a book with what could be termed
a double feature [think Rocky Horror Show] where almost every single 
screen shot has to be reduplicated

for the two interfaces . . .

---

I have no great desire to put together the sort of book I am talking 
about to find that it is outdated as soon as it comes off the presses.


Richmond.
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Re: A book for babies?

2015-08-29 Thread Earthednet-wp
Richmond,
Your concerns are very valid, with LC still in the midst of lots of changes. 
Here are some immediate rambling thoughts, perhaps obvious, but for what 
they're worth

I like the workbook format. Very appropriate.

Ideally, it might be distributed as an ebook or app type book that can be 
easily updated. If the students need print (I would think they would), it's 
more difficult. But perhaps the book could be printed, workbook style, by the 
purchaser at a local print store (like Kinko's in the US). I don't know how 
this could be set up so you get income from it, though. Hmmm, I wonder if any 
of these on demand type print stores could do one-offs for individuals, 
from a server master. I haven't investigated this, but I think Kinko's does 
this in the US. Not sure if they can return royalties to the author. Sounds 
like an obvious service, tho so it might be worth investigating.

I think it is a great idea to get a few folks to test it with their kids, and 
give feedback. It is bound to improve the book.

Regarding being a tester, my contact with my 10yr old grandson varies depending 
on factors out of my control. If it looks like I would have regular contact, 
I'd love to try it out on him. No guarantee he would get into it, tho. My son 
is a 3'rd grade teacher and I might be able to interest him, but he is into 
(with his students) Lego Robotics, Scratch and Arduino (a bit). 

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

 On Aug 29, 2015, at 12:20 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you are*NOT* interested in teaching *small children* /LiveCode/ stop 
 reading now.
 
 ---
 
 Having taught a reasonably successful, relatively intensive course to 
 *Primary level**
 **children* during the summer, and starting a once-a-week thing in October I 
 am quite
 seriously thinking of putting together a *book* for Primary kids.
 
 This would *NOT* be full of theorising, and *NOT* like a 'standard' text 
 book; rather a
 hands-on cookery book.
 
 Obviously, a significant part of this book will be pictorial.
 
 HOWEVER . . .
 
 Seeing the vast and significant changes coming with *LiveCode 8.0.0.*
 
 [and, to be honest, all I taught the children was doable in LC 4.5]
 
 including its interface changes (at the moment I'm thinking of the 
 *preferences**
 **palette* and the *toolBar* stack) . . .
 
 I am really wondering what the point is, as, any book I start on now will 
 either feature screen shots
 of the *LC 7 interface* or the *LC 8 alpha interface*; both of which may go 
 down the pan just as my book
 is ready.
 
 ALSO . . . my course that will run from October to May will us LC 7 
 (especially as the LC 8 series is in a state
 of flux) . . . so any extra stuff arising (and, with hindsight, I can see 
 lots of gaps that need to be plugged) will
 also be framed in terms of the LC 7 interface.
 
 As soon as a FIXED interface for LC 8 (???) is released I will have to 
 sit down and make myself
 comfortable with it even before I start dishing it out either to kids in 
 class or in the form of a book.
 
 --
 
 I should be glad of any advice, comments, and so on about my quandary.
 
 --
 
 In the light of some favourable responses I am wondering about releasing beta 
 versions of my chapters under a non-disclosure
 agreement to interested parties to torture their children with on the 
 understanding that they will 'pay' for them by giving
 me vigorous feedback.
 
 --
 
 In light of the discussions anent a possible 'unified IDE' ['that' picture], 
 I also would like to know what chances
 there are of that sort of thing being on the cards, whether it would be 
 locked-in [heaven forfend] or optional,
 and so on, as, were it to be present in LC 8.x.x it might be necessary to 
 write a book with what could be termed
 a double feature [think Rocky Horror Show] where almost every single 
 screen shot has to be reduplicated
 for the two interfaces . . .
 
 ---
 
 I have no great desire to put together the sort of book I am talking about to 
 find that it is outdated as soon as it comes off the presses.
 
 Richmond.
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