Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Thanks for that info Curry, there is more than one of them for sure.
I sometimes get it when exiting group editing, but that one is rare.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 1:21 AM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
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>
>  > livecode process just goes poof
>  > Has anyone else experienced it?
>
> Me! I get the IDE Vanishing Act on Windows, once per week.
>
> But perhaps a DIFFERENT bug or a different trigger:
>
> Not when interacting specifically with Styled text.
>
> Best wishes,
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

> livecode process just goes poof
> Has anyone else experienced it?

Me! I get the IDE Vanishing Act on Windows, once per week.

But perhaps a DIFFERENT bug or a different trigger:

Not when interacting specifically with Styled text.

Best wishes,

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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Thank you all for your responses.
Knowing that it has to do with Styled text is a big help, thanks Mark W.
Bob, the crash report is in the bug report.
Mathias, unfortunately I cannot post a sample stack.
I cannot reliably reproduce it myself.

The fields in the one code base,Appli, are heavily styled, and a big
feature depends on it.

I think the bug is at the software intersection of clickLoc, Styled Text
and maybe linkText.
I feel we are a step closer to it  today than yesterday.

Thanks again,

Tom

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 1:11 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 1/3/23 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
> > On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
> > process just goes poof
> > Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely
> UP.
> > The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
> > particular.
> > There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
> > On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
> > It happens both in IDE and in standalone
> > On both windows and mac.
> > (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
> > Running latest stable and latest RC1
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced it?
>
> The only CTD I can verify here at the moment is with deactivating
> breakpoints from the SE.
>
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 1/3/23 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Folks,

I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
process just goes poof
Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely UP.
The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
particular.
There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
It happens both in IDE and in standalone
On both windows and mac.
(Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
Running latest stable and latest RC1

Has anyone else experienced it?


The only CTD I can verify here at the moment is with deactivating 
breakpoints from the SE.


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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

Tom,
does this happen with every stack that contains such a "special" field or only 
with one stack?
What field type is it? Scrolling field, Scrolling list field or table field?

I created a stack here with a Scrolling list field, added some lines of text 
and changed the backgroundcolor of some lines. Each line with an other color.
I also changed the text style of some words  in some lines.
I then tried to replicate, but was not successful. Tried it the whole day about 
 every half an hour.
But maybe my field is not as complex as your field is.

Unfortunately your bug report does not contain a sample stack. 
If you could supply a sample stack which shows that behavior on your Mac, 
others could test on their computers.


Regards,
Matthias

> Am 04.01.2023 um 05:22 schrieb Tom Glod via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
> On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
> process just goes poof
> Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely UP.
> The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
> particular.
> There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
> On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
> It happens both in IDE and in standalone
> On both windows and mac.
> (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
> Running latest stable and latest RC1
> 
> Has anyone else experienced it?
> 
> Bug report from QC
> 
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989
> 
> Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
> '
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Seems there ought to be a crash log somewhere that could give clues. On the Mac 
you can open the Console app, click the Crash Reports in the left pane, and 
search for Livecode. But I am not exactly sure that the crash logs will 
indicate application crashes.

Bob S


On Jan 4, 2023, at 08:22 , Tom Glod via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Sean, not that I know of.
I am the only common denominator right now.
I would be happy to find out its me if only it meant that this issue be
solved.

I hear you Craig, I hear you.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:11 AM Craig Newman via use-livecode <
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I have been plagued by arbitrary crashes forever. Probably a few times per
month. But since I cannot post a repeatable example, I have nothing but
sympathy from the forum members. Note though that those members generally
do NOT see this issue at all.

Craig

On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:20 AM, Sean Cole via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

I am not noticing this using LC quite extensively over the holidays. Is
there any code or library common to both codesets that utilises mouseUp
messages in the stack or card script? This would be my first place to
look.

Sean Cole

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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Sean, not that I know of.
 I am the only common denominator right now.
I would be happy to find out its me if only it meant that this issue be
solved.

I hear you Craig, I hear you.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:11 AM Craig Newman via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I have been plagued by arbitrary crashes forever. Probably a few times per
> month. But since I cannot post a repeatable example, I have nothing but
> sympathy from the forum members. Note though that those members generally
> do NOT see this issue at all.
>
> Craig
>
> > On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:20 AM, Sean Cole via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am not noticing this using LC quite extensively over the holidays. Is
> > there any code or library common to both codesets that utilises mouseUp
> > messages in the stack or card script? This would be my first place to
> look.
> >
> > Sean Cole
> > *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> >
> > eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> > Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 04:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
> >> On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
> >> process just goes poof
> >> Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely
> >> UP.
> >> The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
> >> particular.
> >> There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
> >> On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
> >> It happens both in IDE and in standalone
> >> On both windows and mac.
> >> (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
> >> Running latest stable and latest RC1
> >>
> >> Has anyone else experienced it?
> >>
> >> Bug report from QC
> >>
> >> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989
> >>
> >> Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
> >> '
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Not that it helps, but I haven't had CTDs in a long time. I will note however 
that one of the causes of past CTDs is an endless loop. If the engine gets so 
many loops in a short period of time, it's my understanding it will CTD. If 
it's a click anywhere in the app, I would look at any front or back scripts 
that have to do with mouse messages. 

Bob S


> On Jan 3, 2023, at 20:22 , Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
> On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
> process just goes poof
> Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely UP.
> The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
> particular.
> There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
> On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
> It happens both in IDE and in standalone
> On both windows and mac.
> (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
> Running latest stable and latest RC1
> 
> Has anyone else experienced it?
> 
> Bug report from QC
> 
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989
> 
> Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
> '
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

I have been plagued by arbitrary crashes forever. Probably a few times per 
month. But since I cannot post a repeatable example, I have nothing but 
sympathy from the forum members. Note though that those members generally do 
NOT see this issue at all.

Craig

> On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:20 AM, Sean Cole via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am not noticing this using LC quite extensively over the holidays. Is
> there any code or library common to both codesets that utilises mouseUp
> messages in the stack or card script? This would be my first place to look.
> 
> Sean Cole
> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd*
> 
> eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
> Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 04:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
>> On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
>> process just goes poof
>> Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely
>> UP.
>> The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
>> particular.
>> There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
>> On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
>> It happens both in IDE and in standalone
>> On both windows and mac.
>> (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
>> Running latest stable and latest RC1
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced it?
>> 
>> Bug report from QC
>> 
>> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989
>> 
>> Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
>> '
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tom
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Re: Anyone else experience this bug?

[Sean Cole via use-livecode]

I am not noticing this using LC quite extensively over the holidays. Is
there any code or library common to both codesets that utilises mouseUp
messages in the stack or card script? This would be my first place to look.

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital Productions Ltd*

eMail Ts & Cs    Pi Digital
Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609


On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 04:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
> On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
> process just goes poof
> Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely
> UP.
> The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
> particular.
> There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
> On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
> It happens both in IDE and in standalone
> On both windows and mac.
> (Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
> Running latest stable and latest RC1
>
> Has anyone else experienced it?
>
> Bug report from QC
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989
>
> Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
> '
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
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Anyone else experience this bug?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi Folks,

I work with 2 completely different codebases every week.
On both I and (we) experience hard crashes to desktop, where livecode
process just goes poof
Usually it is triggered by either a mouseUp or mouseDown ... most likely UP.
The bug is not consistent and does not happen when clicking anything in
particular.
There are days it does not happen, and days when it does multiple times.
On the exact same, doing the exact same things.
It happens both in IDE and in standalone
On both windows and mac.
(Come to think of it, it has happened less on  Windows 11 than 10.)
Running latest stable and latest RC1

Has anyone else experienced it?

Bug report from QC

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23989

Getting pretty desperate to find it., I need it out of my life.
'
Thanks,

Tom
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