Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ya know, I remember a good while back, several years, that in the process of 
debugging I would get into these unstable states. It was something in my code 
that was throwing an error, but the debugger instead of catching it and 
stopping at the line, basically looked like it completed. But it didn't. It was 
like a script was still running but I was able to interact with the UI to some 
extent. 

Bob S


> On Mar 14, 2019, at 12:31 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It sort of fits with what I've seen in all versions of LC 9. Things start 
> failing inexplicably -- handlers available moments ago suddenly can't be 
> found, keyboard shortcuts stop working, the message path gets skewed or lost, 
> etc. A restart of LC fixes things until it happens again. In many cases, if I 
> don't restart, I'll eventually crash.
> 
> No recipe, no logic to it. But I think it has something to do with debugging, 
> since I most often see things go wrong after or during a debugging session.


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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I knew once but I forgot. 

Bob S


> On Mar 13, 2019, at 13:59 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.
> 
> I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here.
> I'm not sure what it is.
> 
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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 3/13/19 3:59 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 3/13/19 12:10 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:


Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.


I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here.
I'm not sure what it is.



It sort of fits with what I've seen in all versions of LC 9. Things 
start failing inexplicably -- handlers available moments ago suddenly 
can't be found, keyboard shortcuts stop working, the message path gets 
skewed or lost, etc. A restart of LC fixes things until it happens 
again. In many cases, if I don't restart, I'll eventually crash.


No recipe, no logic to it. But I think it has something to do with 
debugging, since I most often see things go wrong after or during a 
debugging session.


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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-14 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
"Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8

Lagi



On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 20:59, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 3/13/19 12:10 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
>
> > Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.
>
> I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here.
> I'm not sure what it is.
>
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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Yes, there is a valuable lesson:

reel in one's impulsive nature, and don't panic.

Richmond.

On 13.03.19 22:59, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 3/13/19 12:10 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:


Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.


I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here.
I'm not sure what it is.




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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread hh via use-livecode
> > Richmond M. wrote:
> > Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.

> Mark Wieder wrote:  
> I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here. I'm not sure
> what it is. 

I wrote also things to the use-list (mostly silly typos) I wished a
few seconds later I could correct them.
The ability to correct things easier is one reason I like the forum
more than the use-list (relates to the environment, not the members).


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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 3/13/19 12:10 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:


Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.


I think there's a valuable lesson to be learned here.
I'm not sure what it is.

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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Having written that,and having reopened LC 9.0.3 it behaved "as it should"
and reported my screen height as 1080.

Had that happened initially I would not have started this thread.

Richmond.

On 13.03.19 21:07, Richmond wrote:

0,23,1920,1034

On 13.03.19 21:06, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

What is reported with just screenRect?

Thanks,
Brian
On Mar 13, 2019, 3:05 PM -0400, Richmond via use-livecode 
, wrote:

What is not working is that 1034 is the number given regardless of
whether the
words *effective* and *working* are used or not.

Richmond.

On 13.03.19 21:02, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Richmond wrote:


when I put

*put the working screenRect *

into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*

that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!

Menubar at the top with Dock at the bottom - that seems correct.

What is not working?


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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

0,23,1920,1034

On 13.03.19 21:06, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:

What is reported with just screenRect?

Thanks,
Brian
On Mar 13, 2019, 3:05 PM -0400, Richmond via use-livecode 
, wrote:

What is not working is that 1034 is the number given regardless of
whether the
words *effective* and *working* are used or not.

Richmond.

On 13.03.19 21:02, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Richmond wrote:


when I put

*put the working screenRect *

into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*

that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!

Menubar at the top with Dock at the bottom - that seems correct.

What is not working?


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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
What is reported with just screenRect?

Thanks,
Brian
On Mar 13, 2019, 3:05 PM -0400, Richmond via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> What is not working is that 1034 is the number given regardless of
> whether the
> words *effective* and *working* are used or not.
>
> Richmond.
>
> On 13.03.19 21:02, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
> > Richmond wrote:
> >
> > > when I put
> > >
> > > *put the working screenRect *
> > >
> > > into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*
> > >
> > > that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!
> >
> > Menubar at the top with Dock at the bottom - that seems correct.
> >
> > What is not working?
> >
>
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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
What is not working is that 1034 is the number given regardless of 
whether the

words *effective* and *working* are used or not.

Richmond.

On 13.03.19 21:02, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Richmond wrote:

> when I put
>
> *put the working screenRect *
>
> into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*
>
> that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!

Menubar at the top with Dock at the bottom - that seems correct.

What is not working?



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Re: Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Richmond wrote:

> when I put
>
> *put the working screenRect *
>
> into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*
>
> that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!

Menubar at the top with Dock at the bottom - that seems correct.

What is not working?

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Ineffective lazy screenRect

2019-03-13 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
So, "here" on macOS 10.14.4 beta 5 with LC 9.0.3 rc-1 [ "Edge City" as 
they used to say when I wore flared jeans ],


when I put

*put the working screenRect *

into the msgBox I get *0,23,1920,1034*

that includes the macOS Dock and the menuBar!

*put the effective screenRect*

just throws an error, and

*put the effective working screenRect*

also gives me *0,23,1920,1034*

which is not very useful at all.

Richmond.
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