Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
would you consider this script to be comparative to the complexity of
phpInfo() ?
anyway I don't think the slowdown I'm seeing at Dreamhost would be caught
in this benchmark. Once LC is loaded, it is quite speedy. But on the
server it has to restart for every page load.
my livecode test script was basically the same as yoursexcept I use the
.irev suffix on the file.
?lc
-- NEW UNIVERSAL VERSION 2014
put $_SERVER[SERVER_NAME] into sSiteName
put $_SERVER[SERVER_ADDR] into sSiteADDR
put $_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR] into sRemoteADDR
put \
h1 sSiteName /h1 \
h2 sSiteADDR \
span style='color:#7FFFD4;'(your IP: sRemoteADDR
)/span \
/h2 \
h4 \
SERVER TEST |\
server: Livecode | \
OS: the platform | \
Engine: the version /h4 into sComposedTitle
?
html
head
style
body {
background-color:#F9E8D2;
color:#33;
font-family: Lucida Grande, Lucida, Verdana, sans-serif;
}
fieldset {
background-color:#33;
color:black;
text-align:center;
}
h1{
color:#FDD017;
}
h2{
color:#C79F8A;
}
h3{
color:orange;
}
h4{
color:#EE;
}
/style
title?lc putLIVECODE SERVER TEST @ sSiteName ?/title
/head
body
?rev
command outputRow pLabel, pValue
?
tr
td
b
?rev put pLabel ?
/b
/td
td
?rev put pValue ?
/td
/tr
?rev
end outputRow
?
fieldset
?rev
put sComposedTitle ?
/fieldset
h2 style=color:black;Server Globals/h2
hr
table
?rev
repeat for each key tKey in $_SERVER
outputRow tKey, $_SERVER[tKey]
end repeat
?
/table
/body
/html
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:
On 11/22/14 10:23 AM, Warren Samples wrote:
On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
I'm glad it isn't just me:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983
Phil Davis
Phil,
Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your
URLs and about 4 times using mine when run under 6.6.2. Opening the URLs in
a browser continues to show a significant difference, but it's hard to
quantify. Could you put a timer in the scripts themselves?
New URLs:
http://ctrainweb.com/test3.lc
http://support.nweta.com/test3.lc
Very interesting! The scripts run quite speedily on both servers.
Also, it seems probable from how they display in the utility and the
browser that the scripts are not quite identical, with the one at
http://ctrainweb.com/test2.lc not converting 'CR' to 'br' as does
(apparently) the other one. However doubtful it might be that this has
serious impact, it would be best ensure they are identical.
Done. Here is the 'test3.lc' script:
--- start ---
?lc
put the long seconds into tStart
put tStart into tStart2
put LC version the version CR SYSTEM VERSION the
systemVersion CR the time CR after tOutput
repeat with x = 1 to 3
put x CR after tOutput
end repeat
put CR
put the keys of $_SERVER into tList
sort lines of tList
repeat for each line tKey in tList
if $_SERVER[tKey] is an array
then put [ tKey ] CR after tOutput
else put tKey = $_SERVER[tKey] CR after tOutput
end repeat
replace CR with BR in tOutput
put the long seconds - tStart secsBR
put tOutput
put the long seconds - tStart2 secsBR
?
--- end ---
Phil
Warren
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Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Stephen
Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of
PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two scripts are simple:
Livecode
htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p
?/body/html
PHP
htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p
?/body/html
HTML
htmlhead/headbodypI've started/p/body/html
Trying these simple pages should give a good indication if the startup time of
LiveCode is the problem on Dreamhost.
Regards
Peter
PS I used a ruby script running on the server to access the three pages to
reduce the effect of network delays on the response times.
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:55, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
wrote:
would you consider this script to be comparative to the complexity of
phpInfo() ?
anyway I don't think the slowdown I'm seeing at Dreamhost would be caught
in this benchmark. Once LC is loaded, it is quite speedy. But on the
server it has to restart for every page load.
my livecode test script was basically the same as yoursexcept I use the
.irev suffix on the file.
?lc
-- NEW UNIVERSAL VERSION 2014
put $_SERVER[SERVER_NAME] into sSiteName
put $_SERVER[SERVER_ADDR] into sSiteADDR
put $_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR] into sRemoteADDR
put \
h1 sSiteName /h1 \
h2 sSiteADDR \
span style='color:#7FFFD4;'(your IP: sRemoteADDR
)/span \
/h2 \
h4 \
SERVER TEST |\
server: Livecode | \
OS: the platform | \
Engine: the version /h4 into sComposedTitle
?
html
head
style
body {
background-color:#F9E8D2;
color:#33;
font-family: Lucida Grande, Lucida, Verdana, sans-serif;
}
fieldset {
background-color:#33;
color:black;
text-align:center;
}
h1{
color:#FDD017;
}
h2{
color:#C79F8A;
}
h3{
color:orange;
}
h4{
color:#EE;
}
/style
title?lc putLIVECODE SERVER TEST @ sSiteName ?/title
/head
body
?rev
command outputRow pLabel, pValue
?
tr
td
b
?rev put pLabel ?
/b
/td
td
?rev put pValue ?
/td
/tr
?rev
end outputRow
?
fieldset
?rev
put sComposedTitle ?
/fieldset
h2 style=color:black;Server Globals/h2
hr
table
?rev
repeat for each key tKey in $_SERVER
outputRow tKey, $_SERVER[tKey]
end repeat
?
/table
/body
/html
*--*
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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:
On 11/22/14 10:23 AM, Warren Samples wrote:
On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
I'm glad it isn't just me:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983
Phil Davis
Phil,
Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your
URLs and about 4 times using mine when run under 6.6.2. Opening the URLs in
a browser continues to show a significant difference, but it's hard to
quantify. Could you put a timer in the scripts themselves?
New URLs:
http://ctrainweb.com/test3.lc
http://support.nweta.com/test3.lc
Very interesting! The scripts run quite speedily on both servers.
Also, it seems probable from how they display in the utility and the
browser that the scripts are not quite identical, with the one at
http://ctrainweb.com/test2.lc not converting 'CR' to 'br' as does
(apparently) the other one. However doubtful it might be that this has
serious impact, it would be best ensure they are identical.
Done. Here is the 'test3.lc' script:
--- start ---
?lc
put the long seconds into tStart
put tStart into tStart2
put LC version the version CR SYSTEM VERSION the
systemVersion CR the time CR after tOutput
repeat with x = 1 to 3
put x CR after tOutput
end repeat
put CR
put the keys of $_SERVER into tList
sort lines of tList
repeat for each line tKey in tList
if $_SERVER[tKey] is an array
then put [ tKey ] CR after tOutput
else put tKey = $_SERVER[tKey] CR after tOutput
end repeat
replace CR with BR in tOutput
put the long seconds - tStart secsBR
put tOutput
put the long seconds - tStart2 secsBR
?
--- end ---
Phil
Warren
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Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two scripts are simple: Livecode htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p ?/body/html PHP htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p ?/body/html HTML htmlhead/headbodypI've started/p/body/html I don't see Livecode being called here in any way. ??? And I don't use On-Rev. I believe On-Rev alters Apache. My comment was regarding using the htaccess cgi methods on Dreamhost, livecode vs PHP. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Stephen On 24 Nov 2014, at 13:28, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two scripts are simple: Livecode htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p ?/body/html PHP htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p ?/body/html HTML htmlhead/headbodypI've started/p/body/html I don't see Livecode being called here in any way. ??? Oops. I copy and pasted the wrong file. The LiveCode version was: htmlhead/headbody?rev put pI've started/p ?/body/html And I don't use On-Rev. I believe On-Rev alters Apache. I don’t know. On-rev does not have mod_php installed so PHP runs as a cgi script. If I remember correctly, the last tests that I ran showed that LiveCode and PHP loaded in very similar times. These results suggest that LiveCode was running as a cgi on On-Rev. My comment was regarding using the htaccess cgi methods on Dreamhost, livecode vs PHP. I shared the web pages/scripts as a means of finding out if the issue with LiveCode on Dreamhost is during the time LiveCode is loading. There are an easy way to roughly compare the load times of HTML, PHP and LiveCode on any host. Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: the speed of loading is TERRIBLE with the 7.0.1 LC Linux server. It takes 4.5 seconds for LC to 'execute' a simple page every time. It's not about DNS and a PHP page on the same site loads immediately by comparison. Is this possibly related to other slowdowns in the desktop versions? Unless there is a problem specific to the 64 bit engine it seems more likely related to some issue with the DreamHost setup. The script that Phil provides in his bug report shows similar nearly instantaneous execution times for 6.1.2, 6.5.1 and 7.0.0 served from the same (32 bit) machine at WebFaction: http://warren.ws/newtest.lc (6.1.2) http://warrensweb.us/newtest.lc (6.5.1) http://asom.net/newtest.lc (7.0.0) I do have a simple test script with a repeat loop and a list sort that takes @ 4 times as long to execute with 7.0.0 as it does with earlier versions, but Phil's script doesn't show anything like the same problem here as it does on his DreamHost server. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I'm glad it isn't just me: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983 Phil Davis Phil, Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your URLs and about 4 times using mine when run under 6.6.2. Opening the URLs in a browser continues to show a significant difference, but it's hard to quantify. Could you put a timer in the scripts themselves? Also, it seems probable from how they display in the utility and the browser that the scripts are not quite identical, with the one at http://ctrainweb.com/test2.lc not converting 'CR' to 'br' as does (apparently) the other one. However doubtful it might be that this has serious impact, it would be best ensure they are identical. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Warren Samples wrote: Unless there is a problem specific to the 64 bit engine it seems more likely related to some issue with the DreamHost setup. Agreed. A four-fold increase in script processing time seems about average for the tests I've seen comparing 6.7 and 7.0; much beyond that seems like something with the host. Perhaps drop a note to DH Support to see if perhaps they've consolidated users or made any other changes that might increase load on the machine? I do have a simple test script with a repeat loop and a list sort that takes @ 4 times as long to execute with 7.0.0 as it does with earlier versions, but Phil's script doesn't show anything like the same problem here as it does on his DreamHost server. Consistent with my tests - Malte started a benchmarking project, which has been moving along nicely in its new home in the forums. The engine team is reviewing test scripts posted there, esp. those that can be run with LC Server. The reason for focusing on Server right now is two-fold: 1. It isolates rendering speed from other processing; they have a couple different areas they're working on rendering speed, so tests that isolate other processing are especially helpful to them right now. 2. It's really easy for them to run diagnostics from the command line. Here's my contribution to Malte's testing project: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67t=22072start=15#p113997 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 11/22/14 10:23 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I'm glad it isn't just me: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983 Phil Davis Phil, Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your URLs and about 4 times using mine when run under 6.6.2. Opening the URLs in a browser continues to show a significant difference, but it's hard to quantify. Could you put a timer in the scripts themselves? New URLs: http://ctrainweb.com/test3.lc http://support.nweta.com/test3.lc Very interesting! The scripts run quite speedily on both servers. Also, it seems probable from how they display in the utility and the browser that the scripts are not quite identical, with the one at http://ctrainweb.com/test2.lc not converting 'CR' to 'br' as does (apparently) the other one. However doubtful it might be that this has serious impact, it would be best ensure they are identical. Done. Here is the 'test3.lc' script: --- start --- ?lc put the long seconds into tStart put tStart into tStart2 put LC version the version CR SYSTEM VERSION the systemVersion CR the time CR after tOutput repeat with x = 1 to 3 put x CR after tOutput end repeat put CR put the keys of $_SERVER into tList sort lines of tList repeat for each line tKey in tList if $_SERVER[tKey] is an array then put [ tKey ] CR after tOutput else put tKey = $_SERVER[tKey] CR after tOutput end repeat replace CR with BR in tOutput put the long seconds - tStart secsBR put tOutput put the long seconds - tStart2 secsBR ? --- end --- Phil Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Thanks, Scott and Richard, for working this out. Can these notes be included in the READ ME file/installation instructions for LC Server/Linux? Devin On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Thanks to the patient generosity of our fearless Community Leader Richard Gaskin, between us we were able to determine the combination of .htaccess files needed to get LCserver working on DreamHost under Ubuntu (at least for my situation). As a few others have noted, the most basic setup is more or less like what Stephen Barncard and Andre Garcia came up with some time ago: Domain [folder] .htaccess cgi-bin [folder] .htaccess drivers [folder] externals [folder] livecode-server Domain root .htaccess file contents: AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server cgi-bin folder .htaccess file contents: Options ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script (³livecode_server² can be replaced with ³livecode-community-server²) After I received some conflicting information from DreamHost tech support, Richard was able to determine that the second htaccess file in the cgi-bin folder is required to make things work (this is probably what most others already have in their domains). I don¹t know what¹s needed if anything for PHP processing, but in my case some root level directives (mentioned below) that used to work fine under the old servers break certain pages of my site on the current servers, so some more experimenting may be needed to get that working. But at least LCserver is running again. Many thanks Richard! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 11/18/14, 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode and php to execute together in the same domain space (where we might want some Wordpress pages AND livecode. This is my problem as well. Thanks. Somehow I missed the reference to PHP requirements in Scott's message. The htaccess magic words that used to allow this with PHP 5.2 don't work any more... IIRC the notice I got from DH said they've upgraded to PHP 5.3. I don't spend enough time with PHP to know what differences may affect shared hosting. Here's the link they provided for PHP assistance in their upgrade notice from Nov 5: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/PHP.ini#Upgrading_your_site_.28if_you.27re_movi ng_to_Ubuntu_from_Debian_servers.29 - some syntax has changed either with PHP, Apache, or the use of Ubuntu vs Debian. Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev AddHandler php-script .php .htm .html DirectoryIndex index.irev index.lc index.php index.html Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server/livecode-community-server Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the server level. To double-check what I had originally understood from Scott's post (looking at LC alone without PHP), I put a fresh install of LC Server v7 on a new DH host and after setting permissions it was up and running with just two lines in .htaccess, the AddHandler and the Action defining that handler. Given the prevalence of PHP, I doubt DH's requirements for the upgrade involve much work - they'd be overloaded with support requests if they didn't give some good thought to backward compatibility with people's existing configs. Normally there's no conflict between any combination of CGIs mentioned in .htaccess as long as they don't mix file extensions. So I'll bet that once we pin this down, we'll have an a ha! moment in which the solution is simpler than what it may seem right now. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the server level. I think that relationship had changed with the Ubuntu upgrade. For some reason, with the previous setup - when I did the addhandlers for just the livecode, the php wouldn't work any more on the same domain. I got the impression that a local htaccess file would over ride the global php setting. Also the previous setup seemed to be sensitive to the 'fast cgi' setting. I would still love to have only one installation of LIvecode for all my domains but apparently impossible using the htaccess methods. So I had to do the 'fix' a lot of times. My sites are working now but there is still an issue - the speed of loading is TERRIBLE with the 7.0.1 LC Linux server. It takes 4.5 seconds for LC to 'execute' a simple page every time. It's not about DNS and a PHP page on the same site loads immediately by comparison. see my test page that compares the two a ref= http://media.barncard.com/php-lc-test.html;HERE/a Is this possibly related to other slowdowns in the desktop versions? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 11/21/14 10:05 AM, stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the server level. I think that relationship had changed with the Ubuntu upgrade. For some reason, with the previous setup - when I did the addhandlers for just the livecode, the php wouldn't work any more on the same domain. I got the impression that a local htaccess file would over ride the global php setting. Also the previous setup seemed to be sensitive to the 'fast cgi' setting. I would still love to have only one installation of LIvecode for all my domains but apparently impossible using the htaccess methods. So I had to do the 'fix' a lot of times. My sites are working now but there is still an issue - the speed of loading is TERRIBLE with the 7.0.1 LC Linux server. It takes 4.5 seconds for LC to 'execute' a simple page every time. It's not about DNS and a PHP page on the same site loads immediately by comparison. I'm glad it isn't just me: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983 Phil Davis see my test page that compares the two a ref= http://media.barncard.com/php-lc-test.html;HERE/a Is this possibly related to other slowdowns in the desktop versions? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Thanks to the patient generosity of our fearless Community Leader Richard Gaskin, between us we were able to determine the combination of .htaccess files needed to get LCserver working on DreamHost under Ubuntu (at least for my situation). As a few others have noted, the most basic setup is more or less like what Stephen Barncard and Andre Garcia came up with some time ago: Domain [folder] .htaccess cgi-bin [folder] .htaccess drivers [folder] externals [folder] livecode-server Domain root .htaccess file contents: AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server cgi-bin folder .htaccess file contents: Options ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script (³livecode_server² can be replaced with ³livecode-community-server²) After I received some conflicting information from DreamHost tech support, Richard was able to determine that the second htaccess file in the cgi-bin folder is required to make things work (this is probably what most others already have in their domains). I don¹t know what¹s needed if anything for PHP processing, but in my case some root level directives (mentioned below) that used to work fine under the old servers break certain pages of my site on the current servers, so some more experimenting may be needed to get that working. But at least LCserver is running again. Many thanks Richard! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 11/18/14, 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode and php to execute together in the same domain space (where we might want some Wordpress pages AND livecode. This is my problem as well. Thanks. Somehow I missed the reference to PHP requirements in Scott's message. The htaccess magic words that used to allow this with PHP 5.2 don't work any more... IIRC the notice I got from DH said they've upgraded to PHP 5.3. I don't spend enough time with PHP to know what differences may affect shared hosting. Here's the link they provided for PHP assistance in their upgrade notice from Nov 5: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/PHP.ini#Upgrading_your_site_.28if_you.27re_movi ng_to_Ubuntu_from_Debian_servers.29 - some syntax has changed either with PHP, Apache, or the use of Ubuntu vs Debian. Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev AddHandler php-script .php .htm .html DirectoryIndex index.irev index.lc index.php index.html Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server/livecode-community-server Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the server level. To double-check what I had originally understood from Scott's post (looking at LC alone without PHP), I put a fresh install of LC Server v7 on a new DH host and after setting permissions it was up and running with just two lines in .htaccess, the AddHandler and the Action defining that handler. Given the prevalence of PHP, I doubt DH's requirements for the upgrade involve much work - they'd be overloaded with support requests if they didn't give some good thought to backward compatibility with people's existing configs. Normally there's no conflict between any combination of CGIs mentioned in .htaccess as long as they don't mix file extensions. So I'll bet that once we pin this down, we'll have an a ha! moment in which the solution is simpler than what it may seem right now. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
stephen barncard wrote: With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode and php to execute together in the same domain space (where we might want some Wordpress pages AND livecode. This is my problem as well. Thanks. Somehow I missed the reference to PHP requirements in Scott's message. The htaccess magic words that used to allow this with PHP 5.2 don't work any more... IIRC the notice I got from DH said they've upgraded to PHP 5.3. I don't spend enough time with PHP to know what differences may affect shared hosting. Here's the link they provided for PHP assistance in their upgrade notice from Nov 5: http://wiki.dreamhost.com/PHP.ini#Upgrading_your_site_.28if_you.27re_moving_to_Ubuntu_from_Debian_servers.29 - some syntax has changed either with PHP, Apache, or the use of Ubuntu vs Debian. Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev AddHandler php-script .php .htm .html DirectoryIndex index.irev index.lc index.php index.html Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server/livecode-community-server Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the server level. To double-check what I had originally understood from Scott's post (looking at LC alone without PHP), I put a fresh install of LC Server v7 on a new DH host and after setting permissions it was up and running with just two lines in .htaccess, the AddHandler and the Action defining that handler. Given the prevalence of PHP, I doubt DH's requirements for the upgrade involve much work - they'd be overloaded with support requests if they didn't give some good thought to backward compatibility with people's existing configs. Normally there's no conflict between any combination of CGIs mentioned in .htaccess as long as they don't mix file extensions. So I'll bet that once we pin this down, we'll have an a ha! moment in which the solution is simpler than what it may seem right now. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC Server on DreamHost?
Hi All: I know there was some discussion recently about getting LiveCode server working again on DreamHost now that they¹ve updated to Ubuntu. Can anyone shed some light on what¹s needed here? I believe Richard Gaskin said something about using v7 64bit but I only see one download option in my LC account that appears to be LC Server 6.6.1. Thanks in advance for any explanations or pointers. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Scott Rossi wrote: I know there was some discussion recently about getting LiveCode server working again on DreamHost now that they¹ve updated to Ubuntu. Can anyone shed some light on what¹s needed here? I believe Richard Gaskin said something about using v7 64bit but I only see one download option in my LC account that appears to be LC Server 6.6.1. The Commercial-licensed version of LC Server available through your account options should reflect all versions you're currently licensed for. If you have a v7 Commercial license but don't see the v7 Server there, drop a note to Support to find out why (it shows in my account). That said, unless you're distributing proprietary server apps you probably don't need the Commercial Edition of LiveCode Server. The Community LiveCode Server can be used on your own server without the need to share server-side code, since you're not distributing the server software itself when users browse your site. The Community Edition of Server and others is available here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Thanks Richard. I only see one server download option listed under my account, but obviously I can get Community server from the downloads page. What about server configuration? With the previous server setup at DreamHost, one needed to have several, what are they called, directives (?) in an htaccess file to make the server know how to the deal with .rev and .lc files. Are these still needed with the new Ubuntu servers? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 11/17/14, 11:39 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: I know there was some discussion recently about getting LiveCode server working again on DreamHost now that they¹ve updated to Ubuntu. Can anyone shed some light on what¹s needed here? I believe Richard Gaskin said something about using v7 64bit but I only see one download option in my LC account that appears to be LC Server 6.6.1. The Commercial-licensed version of LC Server available through your account options should reflect all versions you're currently licensed for. If you have a v7 Commercial license but don't see the v7 Server there, drop a note to Support to find out why (it shows in my account). That said, unless you're distributing proprietary server apps you probably don't need the Commercial Edition of LiveCode Server. The Community LiveCode Server can be used on your own server without the need to share server-side code, since you're not distributing the server software itself when users browse your site. The Community Edition of Server and others is available here: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Scott Rossi wrote: What about server configuration? With the previous server setup at DreamHost, one needed to have several, what are they called, directives (?) in an htaccess file to make the server know how to the deal with .rev and .lc files. Are these still needed with the new Ubuntu servers? Pretty much any shared hosting setup will required assigning special handling for certain file types via .htaccess. There was a recent discussion of this in the forums which may be useful: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15t=22084#p113546 Since you'd already had things set up and working well, unless you were on a very old server, chances are you won't need to do anything beyond just updating the engine and updating the Action line of your .htaccess to point to it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Thanks for the pointer. Unfortunately, I¹m still having no luck getting LC server to run. The test page provided with the RunRev lesson doesn¹t render with the server calculated values, so something¹s not working. Is this maybe a permissions thing? I recall having to double-check permissions of certain files/folders with the server folder once uploaded. I¹ll ask again: does anybody here have LC server set up and running on DreamHost, with a configuration that they could pass along? Thanks in advance. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 11/17/14, 12:45 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: What about server configuration? With the previous server setup at DreamHost, one needed to have several, what are they called, directives (?) in an htaccess file to make the server know how to the deal with .rev and .lc files. Are these still needed with the new Ubuntu servers? Pretty much any shared hosting setup will required assigning special handling for certain file types via .htaccess. There was a recent discussion of this in the forums which may be useful: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=15t=22084#p113546 Since you'd already had things set up and working well, unless you were on a very old server, chances are you won't need to do anything beyond just updating the engine and updating the Action line of your .htaccess to point to it. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Scott Rossi wrote: Unfortunately, I¹m still having no luck getting LC server to run. The test page provided with the RunRev lesson doesn¹t render with the server calculated values, so something¹s not working. Is this maybe a permissions thing? I recall having to double-check permissions of certain files/folders with the server folder once uploaded. I¹ll ask again: does anybody here have LC server set up and running on DreamHost, with a configuration that they could pass along? :: raises hand :: :) Every computer problem can be solved by determining the differences between the working and non-working states. If the only thing you've changed is the engine file, check that the permissions for that are executable (chmod 755 filename). Also, make sure your .htaccess file has been updated to point to the new executable. If that doesn't do it, we're then in Whiskey Tango Foxtrot land, since those are the only two things *you've* changed, so we need to look at what may have changed in the system config. You could try running the Server app by passing it the name of your .lc file from the command line to make sure the app runs and that it's able to return values: ./livecode-server somefile.lc If you encounter any issues they should show up in your terminal. If none of that helps, let us know and we'll diagnose further. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Thanks for your continued help :-) I’ve been in WTF land for like a day now. I tried configuring using the basic .htaccess that is supplied by RunRev in their lesson and the original .htaccess that I was using before all these problems. If I use the old configuration, it prevents the operation of a custom forum on my site. DreamHost’s Ubuntu update really messed things up for me. I’ve never used a terminal with the server ― not sure how to do that. Dammit Jim, I’m a designer, not a server specialist! Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 11/17/14, 8:27 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Scott Rossi wrote: Unfortunately, I¹m still having no luck getting LC server to run. The test page provided with the RunRev lesson doesn¹t render with the server calculated values, so something¹s not working. Is this maybe a permissions thing? I recall having to double-check permissions of certain files/folders with the server folder once uploaded. I¹ll ask again: does anybody here have LC server set up and running on DreamHost, with a configuration that they could pass along? :: raises hand :: :) Every computer problem can be solved by determining the differences between the working and non-working states. If the only thing you've changed is the engine file, check that the permissions for that are executable (chmod 755 filename). Also, make sure your .htaccess file has been updated to point to the new executable. If that doesn't do it, we're then in Whiskey Tango Foxtrot land, since those are the only two things *you've* changed, so we need to look at what may have changed in the system config. You could try running the Server app by passing it the name of your .lc file from the command line to make sure the app runs and that it's able to return values: ./livecode-server somefile.lc If you encounter any issues they should show up in your terminal. If none of that helps, let us know and we'll diagnose further. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
Scott Rossi wrote: I’ve never used a terminal with the server ― not sure how to do that. Log into yourDH control panel and under Accounts make sure your account has shell access (SSH) turned on. IMNSHO no web hosting account without shell access is worth the trouble of trying to use, because sooner or later direct access to the machine will be useful if not necessary for diagnosing issues. Once you have that set up, time to take your first foray into serious Linux geekdom: ssh username@machine e.g.: ssh myaccountn...@somedomain.com You'll be prompted for your password (this time - down the road you'll get tired of my annoying reminders to set up shared keys so you won't need a password any more, but we'll leave that for later), and after your password is accepted it's like you're at the machine, able to run any shell commands you like. When you first log in you'll be in your account's home folder, much like on your Mac. Within that folder you'll see your domain's web root - on DH this is usually the domain name. To change directories use cd: cd somedomain.com/cgi-bin From there you can use chmod, or run the server executable using the example I gave before. WARNING: Extended use of bash may lead to addiction. Warning signs include logging into servers without any actual reason just because you can, experimenting with every option to rsync, and being able to make a tar backup of your site without having to consult man. If you begin to experience any of these symptoms, contact your local Linux user group immediately. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC Server on DreamHost?
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: To change directories use cd: cd somedomain.com/cgi-bin From there you can use chmod, or run the server executable using the example I gave before. With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode and php to execute together in the same domain space (where we might want some Wordpress pages AND livecode. This is my problem as well. The htaccess magic words that used to allow this with PHP 5.2 don't work any more - some syntax has changed either with PHP, Apache, or the use of Ubuntu vs Debian. Options +ExecCGI FollowSymLinks AddHandler livecode-script .lc .irev AddHandler php-script .php .htm .html DirectoryIndex index.irev index.lc index.php index.html Action livecode-script /cgi-bin/livecode-server/livecode-community-server some 'help' pages mention some other syntax for htaccess in the new versions of php: AddHandler application/x-httpd-php53 .php .htm .html --- but I'm without a paddle here too - all my combo Livecode/php sites are down Last time Andre saved me also - Scott - the permissions on ALL the LC server files matter, and they get scrambled when moved, either directly or by zip. here's my chart of permissions that worked before: http://barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
Thanks, Stephen. Following your example, I changed the permissions and then moved the .htaccess file to the right directory. Now I see the HTML source displayed in the browser. Is the Dreamhost configuration set up by default to use .htaccess files? Or do I need to contact their tech support? I see from the Apache website that .htaccess files are not ideal; better to change the server main configuration file. Can I do that with Dreamhost? We moved to a dedicated server because of performance issues--a shared server on GoDaddy was too slow serving simultaneous audio files. Peter On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: a dedicated server is not required - the .htaccess method works with shared servers at DH. a lot of options are available using htaccess. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? you probably need to set the permissions. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
Andre and I have only been able to get LCS to work at each domain level, not the server level. There are TWO .htaccess files, btw. Email me directly for my successful versions. The location and installation of Apache is somewhat mysterious and appears to be virtualized or changed in some way by DH, inaccessible to us. Perhaps you could enlist Dreamhost support to help you make the changes you need, and even get LC support involved. This would help you and also help evangelize the platform, as it could be offered in the same way that MySQL, PHP, etc is offered currently at Dreamhost. I would love to see a way to make one installation of LC Server work on all my sites, but I'm also happy with the performance of the product used in this (htaccess) way. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Thanks, Stephen. Following your example, I changed the permissions and then moved the .htaccess file to the right directory. Now I see the HTML source displayed in the browser. Is the Dreamhost configuration set up by default to use .htaccess files? Or do I need to contact their tech support? I see from the Apache website that .htaccess files are not ideal; better to change the server main configuration file. Can I do that with Dreamhost? We moved to a dedicated server because of performance issues--a shared server on GoDaddy was too slow serving simultaneous audio files. Peter On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: a dedicated server is not required - the .htaccess method works with shared servers at DH. a lot of options are available using htaccess. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? you probably need to set the permissions. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
Peter Bogdanoff wrote: I see from the Apache website that .htaccess files are not ideal; better to change the server main configuration file. Do you recall what their complaints were? URL? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
You should avoid using .htaccess files completely if you have access to httpd main server config file. Using .htaccess files slows down your Apache http server. Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block, as it will have the same effect with better performance. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter Bogdanoff wrote: I see from the Apache website that .htaccess files are not ideal; better to change the server main configuration file. Do you recall what their complaints were? URL? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
Peter Bogdanoff wrote: You should avoid using .htaccess files completely if you have access to httpd main server config file. Using .htaccess files slows down your Apache http server. Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block, as it will have the same effect with better performance. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/howto/htaccess.html Makes sense. Thanks for the link. I'll bet the performance difference is pretty low, though, probably not even noticeable until you reach a traffic level where moving to a dedicated server makes sense for other reasons. I haven't used a dedicated server at DH myself, but I've used the instructions provided in the LiveCode package to set up my own servers here and they've worked out well. What issues did you run into modding the Apache config file? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
Hi, Having seen the recommendations from the list, I now have a dedicated server with Dreamhost that I've been using to serve audio files. Now, I'm going a step further and want to start working with LiveCode server. However, I've never configured a server and I'm finding the RunRev online lesson/documentation too sparse for my understanding. I've uploaded the livecode server folder into a cgi-bin that I created. I get stuck at the issue of the Apache configuration file/htaccess. Since I seem unable to modify the Apache config file, I've made a .htaccess file. Then, when I try to display a test.lc file in the browser I get an file not found and internal configuration error. I'm not at all sure about what I'm doing. Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? Peter Bogdanoff UCLA ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? you probably need to set the permissions. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost
a dedicated server is not required - the .htaccess method works with shared servers at DH. a lot of options are available using htaccess. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? you probably need to set the permissions. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
