Re: Playing movies in LC_ Docs??

2020-08-20 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thank you, Paul!

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> On Aug 20, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, there is a lot of information that circulates on the forums or lists or 
> in people's head that probably should be in the LC documentation
> 
> In the LC9.x.x series, the Player supports any audio or video formats 
> supported by Apple Video Foundation (AVF) on macOS - google the apple 
> developer docs for AVF formats supported by macOS version. The Player 
> supports any audio of video formats supported by DirectShow on Windows. 
> Google DirectShow formats supported to find those.
> 
> NOTE while there is over lap, there are also formats supported only on one 
> platform or the other.
> 
> Also, unfortunately, if you are planning on doing anything more complex that 
> placing a video in a player and letting the user play it, you should search 
> the LiveCode quality center for player bugs - there are many dozens. Some 
> minor, some more serious.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/20/2020 6:15 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:
>> Folks:
>> I’m building an app that needs to play movies. It’s a desktop app that I 
>> need to work on Mac and Windows. But, when looking at the dictionary and the 
>> lessons, all I get is references to Quicktime and the dictionary is 
>> hopelessly uninformative about what formats are required.
>> 
>> I haven’t done this in a while. But, when I searched my emails from the 
>> users list, the most recent reference I have is 2016. What the heck? The 
>> dictionary entries are ancient and the lesson is totally useless. Sorry if 
>> I’m being critical about this, but “what the heck is up with movie 
>> players??”. Have I missed something? I really hope so.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> William A. Prothero
>> https://earthlearningsolutions.org
>> 
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Re: Playing movies in LC_ Docs??

2020-08-20 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Yes, there is a lot of information that circulates on the forums or 
lists or in people's head that probably should be in the LC documentation


In the LC9.x.x series, the Player supports any audio or video formats 
supported by Apple Video Foundation (AVF) on macOS - google the apple 
developer docs for AVF formats supported by macOS version. The Player 
supports any audio of video formats supported by DirectShow on Windows. 
Google DirectShow formats supported to find those.


NOTE while there is over lap, there are also formats supported only on 
one platform or the other.


Also, unfortunately, if you are planning on doing anything more complex 
that placing a video in a player and letting the user play it, you 
should search the LiveCode quality center for player bugs - there are 
many dozens. Some minor, some more serious.




On 8/20/2020 6:15 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:

Folks:
I’m building an app that needs to play movies. It’s a desktop app that I need 
to work on Mac and Windows. But, when looking at the dictionary and the 
lessons, all I get is references to Quicktime and the dictionary is hopelessly 
uninformative about what formats are required.

I haven’t done this in a while. But, when I searched my emails from the users 
list, the most recent reference I have is 2016. What the heck? The dictionary 
entries are ancient and the lesson is totally useless. Sorry if I’m being 
critical about this, but “what the heck is up with movie players??”. Have I 
missed something? I really hope so.

Best,
Bill

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Playing movies in LC_ Docs??

2020-08-20 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks:
I’m building an app that needs to play movies. It’s a desktop app that I need 
to work on Mac and Windows. But, when looking at the dictionary and the 
lessons, all I get is references to Quicktime and the dictionary is hopelessly 
uninformative about what formats are required.

I haven’t done this in a while. But, when I searched my emails from the users 
list, the most recent reference I have is 2016. What the heck? The dictionary 
entries are ancient and the lesson is totally useless. Sorry if I’m being 
critical about this, but “what the heck is up with movie players??”. Have I 
missed something? I really hope so.

Best,
Bill

William A. Prothero
https://earthlearningsolutions.org


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Re: Playing movies

2016-03-06 Thread tbodine
Hi, Bill.

Seems the whole LC community is in a state of frustration regarding this. 

But one minimal method I find works to play an online movie is to embed a
movie url in a LC field with the linkStyle set to "link". 

Then add to your stack a script...

on linkClicked pLink
 launch url pLink
end linkClicked

(Fine print: linkClicked does not work except in Browse mode, the field must
be locked and it must have its listBehavior property set to false.)

I don't know of a way to find out from the browser when the movie has
finished, so I wait for the resumeStack message to fire indicating the user
has returned and, presumably, the movie is done.

If you prefer an icon to a text link, perhaps you can embed a graphic in the
field and link from that. (I haven't tried that, but you get extra credit if
you make it work!)

HTH,
Tom B.



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Re: Playing movies

2016-03-06 Thread William Prothero
By the way, I note that the dictioary mentions Quicktime VR. I thought that was 
completely gone. I have some Quicktime VR movies that could be nice to include 
in my current work, but no use putting them in if it’sat EOL or defunct.
Best,
Bill

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 12:42 PM, William Prothero <proth...@earthednet.org> wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> There has been discussion about a movie player being updated on the list. My 
> question is: how should I play a simple movie in a livecode standalone? I 
> don’t want to be dependent on Quicktime as I understand it is going obsolete 
> and Windows users would need to download Quicktime. 
> 
> At least, I could play it in a browser window, but I wonder what’s the latest 
> and greatest way?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
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Playing movies

2016-03-06 Thread William Prothero
Folks:
There has been discussion about a movie player being updated on the list. My 
question is: how should I play a simple movie in a livecode standalone? I don’t 
want to be dependent on Quicktime as I understand it is going obsolete and 
Windows users would need to download Quicktime. 

At least, I could play it in a browser window, but I wonder what’s the latest 
and greatest way?

Best,
Bill

William Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
proth...@earthednet.org




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Re: Problems with movies in latest LiveCode versions

2015-03-21 Thread Devin Asay

On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:06 PM, stgoldb...@aol.com wrote:

 
 The problem is the same regardless of whether the script mentioned below is 
 applied.  Namely, I can't get a
 player object to remember a relative path to a movie.  As soon as I try to 
 put a relative path into the player control
 LiveCode immediately changes it to an absolute path when using LiveCode 
 versions in the 6-7 series. I don't have this problem with
 the Image Area control. 
 It may help to see if other users are having the same problem.  I ask users 
 who are using LiveCode in the 6-7 series to see
 what happens if they place a player on a card and then try to put a relative 
 path to a movie into the player's property
 inspector.  Does LiveCode immediately change it to an absolute path? If other 
 users do not have this problem, 
 I'll have to look for some other problem at my end.  I have not had this 
 problem with Livecode 5.5.3.

Stephen,

I’ve noticed this, too, and reported it. See bug #14435 at 
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14435. The last status update from 
the engineering team indicated that it is “AWAITING_BUILD”. It may help for you 
to add your comments to this bug.

I think the reason that it doesn’t crop up more may be that most people tend 
set the filepath of a player object as an absolute, rather than a relative, 
filepath. That is what I do most of the time, but on occasion I’ll just set the 
defaultFolder then set the filepath of the player to a relative path. The 
latter thing is what stopped working in 6.7 and later. 

I haven’t seen the fix come through yet, although I admit I have yet to 
download and test the latest 6.7.4 and 7.0.4 RC releases.

Regards,

Devin

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Problems with movies in latest LiveCode versions

2015-03-20 Thread stgoldb...@aol.com

Since I use a lot of movies in my stacks, I have gone back to LiveCode 5.5.3. 
I’ve tried LiveCode versions 6.7 through 7.04 and they do not display movies 
properly. For one thing, when I try to set a file path to a relative path, the 
later LiveCode versions do not allow me to save the relative path, but instead 
immediately convert the relative path back to an absolute path.  Moreover, the 
movies only appear unpredictably.


In LiveCode 5.5.3 and beyond, the movieClip does not function correctly.  While 
the movieClip Property Inspector has a  Size and Position section for setting 
the location of the movieClip, this does not work. 


I’m using  Mac system 10.9.5. 


While I appreciate the efforts of the LiveCode team for upgrading the abilities 
of LiveCode, I think that when it comes to a basic control like a Player object 
not functioning, this affects LiveCode’s reputation for reliability, and the 
problem needs to be addressed.


Stephen Goldberg, President
Medmaster Publishing Co.
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Re: Problems with movies in latest LiveCode versions

2015-03-20 Thread Paul Hibbert
 Since I use a lot of movies in my stacks, I have gone back to LiveCode 5.5.3. 
 I’ve tried LiveCode versions 6.7 through 7.04 and they do not display movies 
 properly. For one thing, when I try to set a file path to a relative path, 
 the later LiveCode versions do not allow me to save the relative path, but 
 instead immediately convert the relative path back to an absolute path.  
 Moreover, the movies only appear unpredictably.

Not sure if this will help you, but I found this is easy to workaround, just 
add something like…

set fileName of player myPlayer to ./movies/myMovie.mov

…to the openCard handler of the card that holds the movie, or the control that 
loads the movie, obviously the path will need to be the correct relative path. 
LC will still convert it to the absolute path, but at least it will be correct, 
especially if the stack and movies are moved to a different location before 
being opened. I would expect this should also improve the unpredictably too.

 In LiveCode 5.5.3 and beyond, the movieClip does not function correctly.  
 While the movieClip Property Inspector has a  Size and Position section for 
 setting the location of the movieClip, this does not work. 
 
 I’m using  Mac system 10.9.5. 

I tried, but can't re-create this problem, the Property Inspector - Size and 
Position work fine as far as I can see, I am on OS X 10.10.2, but I doubt that 
would be a platform version issue. Hopefully somebody else could try this on 
10.9.5 to confirm.

 While I appreciate the efforts of the LiveCode team for upgrading the 
 abilities of LiveCode, I think that when it comes to a basic control like a 
 Player object not functioning, this affects LiveCode’s reputation for 
 reliability, and the problem needs to be addressed.

Have you reported the problem via the LC Quality Control centre? 
http://quality.runrev.com In my experience it's well worth trying.

Paul
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Movies ?

2014-02-10 Thread Richmond

It's fantasy time again.

I was musing on export/write to file a sequence of images as,
either, an animated GIF, or a .mov/.avi file.

I could just load the image sequence into Quicktime Pro and
press button A: but that would not work in, say, a stack/standalone that
would generate a film for an end-user automatically.

Clever people might be able to automate Quicktime from inside LC,
but that presupposes the end-user has Quicktime Pro on their machine.

Richmond.

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Re: Movies ?

2014-02-10 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Richmond,

I have used the Enhanced QT external to create Snapper Screen Recorder. 
 Additionally, there are severa image2movie utilities. There are also 
command line utilities such as ffmpeg, which can do this.


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On 2/10/2014 11:29, Richmond wrote:

It's fantasy time again.

I was musing on export/write to file a sequence of images as,
either, an animated GIF, or a .mov/.avi file.

I could just load the image sequence into Quicktime Pro and
press button A: but that would not work in, say, a stack/standalone that
would generate a film for an end-user automatically.

Clever people might be able to automate Quicktime from inside LC,
but that presupposes the end-user has Quicktime Pro on their machine.

Richmond.



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Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Ick.

Bob


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Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
this is a fantastic resource. Why 'ICK', Bob?

thanks Richmond, the link is going into my Script Scrapbook.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Ick.

 Bob


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  http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/V-codecs/
 
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Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
Too doggone many. I had no idea there were that many. If I had to write a 
player that accepted all those I would just give up. 

Bob


On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:50 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

 this is a fantastic resource. Why 'ICK', Bob?
 
 thanks Richmond, the link is going into my Script Scrapbook.
 
 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 Ick.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Richmond wrote:
 
 http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/V-codecs/
 
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Re: [OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-04 Thread stephen barncard
It's just a reference to all the formats that ever were - with examples for
testing. One never know what one might run into for a project. I wouldn't
try to be compatible with most of these. m4v / h264 serves most of my web
needs, and FLV when I really have to.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Too doggone many. I had no idea there were that many. If I had to write a
 player that accepted all those I would just give up.

 Bob


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[OT] Repository of Movies in hundreds of formats

2012-06-03 Thread Richmond

http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/V-codecs/

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