Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Roger Guay wrote: Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that Apple will not accept open source code, so I think I need a commercial license. Plus, I think this would give RR a more reliable income scheme than the occasional unsolicited donation. The company used to have an option specifically for that edge case, in which someone wanted to participate in open source and also include iOS among their deployment platforms, along with a few other perks as well, for US$99: http://livecode.com/tag/livecode-membership/ Given how well the other concerns are already addressed, this Membership option seemed useful as it covered the one use case not otherwise handled. I can't find it at the store, however. I've CC'd Ben here to see if he can chime in on what happened to that Membership program. -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I am under the impression that Apple will not accept open source code, so I think I need a commercial license. Plus, I think this would give RR a more reliable income scheme than the occasional unsolicited donation. Best, Roger Sent from my iPad On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: How about free, with the option to donate $99 if you choose? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New License Idea for Hobbyists
Hi Heather, How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! Thanks and cheers, Roger Guay ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
On 07/21/2015 04:59 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: that might be a bit pedantic on the part of the FSF… Wot? FSF pedantic? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Le 21 juil. 2015 à 20:08, Roger Guay i...@mac.com a écrit : Hi Heather, How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! +10 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
I like this idea. And it would be a way for poor folks like me to help cash flow runrev without a huge crushing dent in my paltry bank account. Would be nice to be able to give away apps without having to provide source. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT ludovic.theba...@laposte.net wrote: Le 21 juil. 2015 à 20:08, Roger Guay i...@mac.com a écrit : Hi Heather, How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! +10 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Roger Guay wrote: How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! How about free, with the option to donate $99 if you choose? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: New License Idea for Hobbyists
How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I'll be the first to sign up!! How about free, with the option to donate $99 if you choose? As a customer, I love free stuff. As a vendor, I kind of like it too because it can be a type of advertising. We do that already at Paradigma with Valentina Studio. We give away the equivalent of what other guys charge $99 or more. Then a (smaller) group of people come back and buy the Pro version to get the additional features. But there's also the support end of it, too. As a vendor, you have to decide if you can actually support / afford your freemium model. It is really a complex thing. A major consideration is to what degree does your free level cannibalizes your sales of higher end versions. For example, consider $99 for commercial for free applications. You could have a company buy such a license, and produce all sorts of compiled applications for internal use, or use by their customers. They are still generating a profit off of whatever is being supported by the free applications. They could also use the FOSS community version too, which would probably be fine for any applications used internally - but they might be reluctant to distribute those FOSS apps if a competitor can get some advantage from it. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Lynn Fredricks wrote: For example, consider $99 for commercial for free applications. You could have a company buy such a license, and produce all sorts of compiled applications for internal use, or use by their customers. They are still generating a profit off of whatever is being supported by the free applications. They could also use the FOSS community version too, which would probably be fine for any applications used internally - but they might be reluctant to distribute those FOSS apps if a competitor can get some advantage from it. Exactly. If it represents material value to a company, the license is a bargain. And if that competitive advantage isn't worth even a few hundred bucks, why bother? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
On 22 Jul 2015, at 4:08 am, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! I’m wondering if this problem will go away with Xcode 7 and the free developer program. As you will now be able to release the source for someone to modify and install on their device outside the app store it’s a bit of a game changer. The only issue I guess is whether the fact that you still need to sign up to the developer program breaks the GPL but that might be a bit pedantic on the part of the FSF… Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Game changer huh? You mean you can side-load an app just like Android has always been able to? On Jul 21, 2015 8:00 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 22 Jul 2015, at 4:08 am, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote: How about a $99 per year commercial license for hobbyists who want to build free apps (no profit)? I’ll be the first to sign up!! I’m wondering if this problem will go away with Xcode 7 and the free developer program. As you will now be able to release the source for someone to modify and install on their device outside the app store it’s a bit of a game changer. The only issue I guess is whether the fact that you still need to sign up to the developer program breaks the GPL but that might be a bit pedantic on the part of the FSF… Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
On 22 Jul 2015, at 10:09 am, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Game changer huh? You mean you can side-load an app just like Android has always been able to? Game changer in the iOS world… -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New License Idea for Hobbyists
Indeed. ;) On Jul 21, 2015 8:11 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 22 Jul 2015, at 10:09 am, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: Game changer huh? You mean you can side-load an app just like Android has always been able to? Game changer in the iOS world… -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
