Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
On 29/01/13 11:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App This is one seriously exciting bit of news!!! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Well I think that's probably the most expensive shirt I'll ever buy but I can't wait to get it. Good work RunRev! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear Heather, This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using your own version of the GPL? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 14 January, we suffered severe server problems. If you tried to send an e-mail between 13 and 18 January and didn't get a reply, please try again. On 29 jan 2013, at 10:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dual license. See MySQL for an example of this. Free for everyone, but needs commercial license for commercial use. No need for a seperate version of the GPL, it's dual licensed. PS: professionals are probably able to use it for free under GPL3 as well as long as they release their source code under the GPL. Dirk Cleenwerck On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Dear Heather, This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using your own version of the GPL? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 14 January, we suffered severe server problems. If you tried to send an e-mail between 13 and 18 January and didn't get a reply, please try again. On 29 jan 2013, at 10:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Hi Mark, It is GPL3, we are not modifying the license. It will be free for a wide variety of professional uses (e.g. in house software) but there are some you will need to pay for, such as creating closed source software to sell or accessing technical support. See the FAQ page link on the Kickstarter page, we've gone into some more detail on there. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 09:52, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Dear Heather, This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using your own version of the GPL? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 14 January, we suffered severe server problems. If you tried to send an e-mail between 13 and 18 January and didn't get a reply, please try again. On 29 jan 2013, at 10:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
On 29/01/2013, at 8:52 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. I'm sure Heather will answer but I'll have a go. Dual licensing models require you to distribute under the terms of the GPL or if you have a commercial license under those terms. You can still work professionally and distribute your code under the GPL however if you want to distribute under your own license and closed source then you will need a commercial license. One of the fantastic things is that now LiveCode Server will be free to use for 99.9% of it's use. Are you using your own version of the GPL? Then it wouldn't be the GPL would it??? -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear Mark, We will be offering a dual license. You can use the GPL license and release your source code, or you can purchase a commercial license and continue to publish closed source apps. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 09:52, Mark Schonewille wrote: Dear Heather, This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using your own version of the GPL? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 14 January, we suffered severe server problems. If you tried to send an e-mail between 13 and 18 January and didn't get a reply, please try again. On 29 jan 2013, at 10:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Open Source LiveCode Project
Perhaps I didn't cared too much about open source and GPL3 in the past and I don't understand it correct, but could somebody explain to me, what the benefit for runrev is on this project, beside getting glory and honor? How can runrev survive, if a great bunch of developers go to gpl and don't pay anymore for their licences? Will there still be enough paying customers of runrev, so that runrev can keep on developing LC? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Heather Laine Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013 10:36 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
The idea is to get a lot more open source using customers compared to the user base right now. That should also increasing the commercial versions sold greatly. They'll probably change the store to include other, upscale versions of licenses. For example mySQL doesn't even have a price. You call them and they then ask anything between thousand and millions, direct payments or monthly payments, depending on the size of deployment, size of company etc. One additional thing is that one can't sell open source versions on neither of the two app stores by Apple (ios and mac). Finally, the open source version is of course completely free of support, and you can't use password protected stacks with it (that means a lot of the revVendor add-ons won't work with the open source version). On 29.01.2013, at 11:13, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Perhaps I didn't cared too much about open source and GPL3 in the past and I don't understand it correct, but could somebody explain to me, what the benefit for runrev is on this project, beside getting glory and honor? How can runrev survive, if a great bunch of developers go to gpl and don't pay anymore for their licences? Will there still be enough paying customers of runrev, so that runrev can keep on developing LC? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Heather Laine Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Januar 2013 10:36 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of- livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can go back in and adjust it. Just a thought... @RunRev have you considered having pickup at the conference as an option? Cheers Monte -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just drop us a line if that's what you want to do. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 10:36, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can go back in and adjust it. Just a thought... @RunRev have you considered having pickup at the conference as an option? Cheers Monte -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? On 29.01.2013, at 11:36, Monte Goulding wrote: A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can go back in and adjust it. Just a thought... @RunRev have you considered having pickup at the conference as an option? Cheers Monte -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 29.01.2013, at 11:44, Monte Goulding wrote: On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more? -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more? I live in Tasmania... -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Localisation based on ip address is notoriously hard and failure prone. There's no telling which IP will be recognized correctly, which will be miss-placed and which will be unrecogised. That is also why I hate auto-redirects based on locality so much (besides the fact that they create walled gardens on the internet), i.e. how google redirects me to google.ch all the time. On 29.01.2013, at 11:48, Monte Goulding wrote: On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more? I live in Tasmania... -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 29/01/2013, at 9:46 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: There is a fee that is automatically added to your pledge, that is identical in amount to the shipping cost. If goodies can be picked up in Edinburgh then I guess that amount could be removed from your pledge. Would be funny though if they reach the goal based on the shipping costs, but with those costs removed they're then under the goal! Yeah... I'm happy to leave the shipping on there and RunRev can have it if they stuff is ready when I'm there in May. If they want to ship it then I won't stop them. Actually kickstarter might not put your pledge against the right level if you skip the funding anyway, it wasn't automatic for me. I suspect/hope that they will go well over the target, and will have to come up with other things that the money can be spent on. I know there's a really long TODO list so let's hope so. -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Thanks Kevin, that's good to know. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com We have time for new software development projects. Contact me for a quote. On 14 January, we suffered severe server problems. If you tried to send an e-mail between 13 and 18 January and didn't get a reply, please try again. Hi Mark, It is GPL3, we are not modifying the license. It will be free for a wide variety of professional uses (e.g. in house software) but there are some you will need to pay for, such as creating closed source software to sell or accessing technical support. See the FAQ page link on the Kickstarter page, we've gone into some more detail on there. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ kevin-5iovygwheqxqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Dear Kevin, Heather and Team, Just to say : thanks for being able to purpose this strategic and very courageous double-license paradigm orientation. An announced great success at work. Makes me, again and again, so proud the belong to this incredibly creative dev community. Back to you after my winter holidays. Friendly yours, Pierre On 29 jan 2013, at 10:35, Heather Laine wrote: Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for everybody to use. We are doing this via a Kickstarter fundraiser, and we need your help. If we are successful, between us we can change the face of programming forever. Open Source LiveCode means - Free access for teachers - Free access for students - Free access for hobbyists and enthusiasts - A headstart for professionals I know that many of you on this list will welcome this initiative, and the benefits it will bring. You have been long time users and supporters of LiveCode. Today we're asking you, especially, to get behind us once again. We are aiming to bring LiveCode to hundreds of thousands of new users, removing the price barrier and making easy access programming available to everyone. RunRev will be working in tandem with the community to guide and drive this project forward for many years to come. LiveCode will have a dual license system. Commercial licensing will still be available allowing you to distribute closed source apps. Open Source LiveCode will be free under the GPL 3 license. You will be able to contribute back to the engine. Development on LiveCode and the addition of all the special features each of you wants becomes an order of magnitude faster. Visit our Kickstarter page to learn all about the project: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Please, if you want to see programming become the new literacy, get behind this project! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your business associates, tell your distant acquaintances, shout it from the rooftops. Between us we can make this happen. We've got some great rewards for you too on Kickstarter, so everybody wins. Make your pledge today and help us to take LiveCode Open Source! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
News from France : http://www.mac4ever.com/actu/77182_l-outil-de-developpement-livecode-bientot-en-open-source Le 29 janv. 2013 à 11:40, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com a écrit : We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just drop us a line if that's what you want to do. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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What about this (see the *bold* area)? I have a commercial license. From what I remember when I purchased it I could create, edit applications and distribute applications for as long as I wanted UNTIL I decided to upgrade. See below. The commercial version will be available as an annual subscription. A single license includes the ability for a single developer to create and build unlimited applications then distribute them royalty-free on all supported platforms. Unlike the open source version, it does not include access to the source code. It includes the script password security module which provides an additional level of protection for your code. It removes the requirement to redistribute the source code of your application when you come to redistribute it.* If your subscription expires any applications built will continue to run* *but you will not be able to create new closed source applications or updates to existing **applications until you renew your commercial license.* On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its feature set meets your needs). If you want to build closed source apps using LiveCode 6.0, under the new dual licensing, you will need to purchase a new Commercial license and the new EULA will apply. The term invited to renew means that no-one is forcing you to renew. It is an invitation. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:09, David C. wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode complete. Will I get the updates I paid for to the new commercial license for that time period? regards, Andrew Kluthe On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its feature set meets your needs). If you want to build closed source apps using LiveCode 6.0, under the new dual licensing, you will need to purchase a new Commercial license and the new EULA will apply. The term invited to renew means that no-one is forcing you to renew. It is an invitation. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:09, David C. wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Thank you very much, Heather! ...that is simple and plain enough. Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its feature set meets your needs). If you want to build closed source apps using LiveCode 6.0, under the new dual licensing, you will need to purchase a new Commercial license and the new EULA will apply. The term invited to renew means that no-one is forcing you to renew. It is an invitation. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:09, David C. wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Heather, that answered my question too, however my license is 5.5, which was purchased June 1st, 2012. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its feature set meets your needs). If you want to build closed source apps using LiveCode 6.0, under the new dual licensing, you will need to purchase a new Commercial license and the new EULA will apply. The term invited to renew means that no-one is forcing you to renew. It is an invitation. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:09, David C. wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially software rental, the perpetual license is just that - perpetual. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:08, Shawn Blc shawnlivec...@gmail.com wrote: What about this (see the *bold* area)? I have a commercial license. From what I remember when I purchased it I could create, edit applications and distribute applications for as long as I wanted UNTIL I decided to upgrade. See below. The commercial version will be available as an annual subscription. A single license includes the ability for a single developer to create and build unlimited applications then distribute them royalty-free on all supported platforms. Unlike the open source version, it does not include access to the source code. It includes the script password security module which provides an additional level of protection for your code. It removes the requirement to redistribute the source code of your application when you come to redistribute it.* If your subscription expires any applications built will continue to run* *but you will not be able to create new closed source applications or updates to existing **applications until you renew your commercial license.* On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go licenses, it never expires. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:09, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-l iv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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What happens if you did a change of license? Like, if I was perpetual up to version 5.5, but pay as you go from 5.5.1, would I be able to use 5.5, but not 5.5.1? On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go licenses, it never expires. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Yes absolutely. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 15:29, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode complete. Will I get the updates I paid for to the new commercial license for that time period? regards, Andrew Kluthe On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: Dear David, What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license, under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license. You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long as you have hardware that will run it and its feature set meets your needs). If you want to build closed source apps using LiveCode 6.0, under the new dual licensing, you will need to purchase a new Commercial license and the new EULA will apply. The term invited to renew means that no-one is forcing you to renew. It is an invitation. Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:09, David C. wrote: Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin, ...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or at least it still seems a bit unclear. From the FAQ: We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with one of the new license types. You will also have the option to use the community edition if it fulfills your specific needs. The term invited to renew is far too vague to be comfortable in my view, so from the standpoint of a perpetual license, please explain at what point the license actually expires to the point that it can no longer be used commercially? The latest license I have is for version 4.53, so will I be able to continue using that commercially or not and if so, for how long? Regards, David C. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App On 29/01/2013 14:48, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of -liv ecode Hey folks, For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual? Also, when will details be provided as to what the cost will be for a commercial license? For example, with a license for the 4.53 version, I have two applications very close to being able to release as commercial products... at what point do I need to be concerned with purchasing a new commercial license or offering my source code? Is a perpetual licenses from earlier version not exempt for the open source model? Regard, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Wow, this will teach me to go to sleep! Kevin, Heather, everyone at runrev THANK YOU! I'll be seeing what I can scrounge up to help, and will point the 1 other person I know who might be interested towards the website. Thanks! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Erm. The question as it stands does not compute Colin :). You can't have 5.5 and not 5.5.1, you always get those minor releases with your major version. However, if we rephrase it, suppose you had a perpetual 5.0 license, but then instead of updating it purchased a PAYG license, what would happen? You will always be able to use your 5.0 edition of LiveCode. As long as you maintain your 5.5 PAYG payments, we will continue to honor that license type and provide you with updates. If you let that PAYG license lapse, you lose access to LiveCode, from 5.0 onwards. You will then need to purchase a new Commercial license to renew access. We will be discontinuing the PAYG license types once we go dual license, so no new purchases of this will be possible. I hope this helps, Regards, Heather On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:35, Colin Holgate wrote: What happens if you did a change of license? Like, if I was perpetual up to version 5.5, but pay as you go from 5.5.1, would I be able to use 5.5, but not 5.5.1? On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote: If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go licenses, it never expires. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Laine Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear List Members, We are hugely excited to be launching this project today: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode To the RunRev team and community, Unless something significant changes in the next few days, current circumstances will not allow me to participate in the initial launch of the open source LiveCode offering, but I'll at least be cheering from the sideline. Once circumstances improve, it will be my pleasure to participate in the new community effort. Best of luck with the new endeavor! Regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Won't the $499 a year still effectively be a pay as you go license? On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote: We will be discontinuing the PAYG license types once we go dual license, so no new purchases of this will be possible. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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I hear the devil's from there. groan Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours isn't in it? Lol.. Taswhere? I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more? I live in Tasmania... -- Monte Goulding ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of those?? Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Oh never mind I already have that!! I thot it meant Lifetime Renewal! I would probably have gone for that! Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially software rental, the perpetual license is just that - perpetual. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote: Oh never mind I already have that!! I thot it meant Lifetime Renewal! I would probably have gone for that! Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially software rental, the perpetual license is just that - perpetual. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! uhm... just saying: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Björnke, it'd be awesome wouldn't it? Talking about being optimistic!!! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! uhm... just saying: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Is it like the perpetual care arrangements in cemeteries? Does that mean that your descendants get updates forever? -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of those?? Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term. Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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It's my experience in life that almost nothing is linear. It will be important for all of us to get the word out (which I suppose we should have been doing all along). I have posted on my Facebook page and alerted people at my (former) place of employment. Bob On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Shawn Blc wrote: If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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That is a pretty amazing watch! I want one! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote: If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome! Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of the largest funded KS project ever! uhm... just saying: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Hi All, I learned about this breaking News from a post made by Richard. Now I have a question for Kevin: Kevin, Did you know if it will be possible to translate the open source version of LiveCode to other languages? If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month to 6 months to allow Universities and Educational Leaders around the world to evaluate the usefulness AND viability of porting LiveCode to their native language... After all, this is the ultimate destiny of every open source project: TO SPREAD IN EVERY LANGUAGE AROUND THE WORLD. :D Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 30/01/2013, at 10:37 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month to 6 months to allow Universities and Educational Leaders around the world to evaluate the usefulness AND viability of porting LiveCode to their native language... After all, this is the ultimate destiny of every open source project: TO SPREAD IN EVERY LANGUAGE AROUND THE WORLD. :D 30 day campaigns are statistically more likely to succeed apparently. By a small fraction. I imagine that project might hang on the back of the open language one. I'm imagining some kind of syntax loader... Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Hi Monte, Monte Goulding wrote: 30 day campaigns are statistically more likely to succeed apparently. By a small fraction. I imagine that project might hang on the back of the open language one. I'm imagining some kind of syntax loader... What if each function, command, handler, reserved words, etc is assigned an inmutable ID and a Label? (just like LiveCode controls) In this way, you could call a built-in function using a label (a single word in any language) and the engine execute the function ID that is paired with such label... :-D Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
