Re: RLE images
2014-07-15 1:06 GMT+02:00 J. Landman Gay If anyone has definitive knowledge, please say. Otherwise I'll go with this. might be you are looking for paintCompression. Thierry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 7/15/2014, 1:53 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: 2014-07-15 1:06 GMT+02:00 J. Landman Gay If anyone has definitive knowledge, please say. Otherwise I'll go with this. might be you are looking for paintCompression. Thanks, I'd forgotten about that. It's exactly what I need. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RLE images
It used to be that any image imported into a stack, regardless of the original format, was converted to RLE. Is that still the case, or are they now saved as the original jpg, png, etc. ? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 14/07/14 23:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: It used to be that any image imported into a stack, regardless of the original format, was converted to RLE. Is that still the case, or are they now saved as the original jpg, png, etc. ? Well? If there is a way to tell what format an embedded image in a stack is in one could work this out. Yup: I know that does not answer your question, and is pretty darn circular; but . . . I remember posting a question about this in about 2002 (!!!) as I was then working on a commercial project in Scotland for teaching High School kids a sort of dumbed-down Music theory and history (the one who was the dumbest was me as the company didn't pay me any more than 10% of what I had been promised). I remember that although I was converting all my images into GIFs they were bloating when imported into Livecode/RR 2.0.1; and that was explained to me on the Use-List because of the conversion into an internal format. If RLE is what I think it is (Run-length encoding) then it is an antiquated Windows 3-ish sort of bitmap which has gone the way of the dinosaurs everywhere else. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 14/07/14 23:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: It used to be that any image imported into a stack, regardless of the original format, was converted to RLE. Is that still the case, or are they now saved as the original jpg, png, etc. ? Whoops: it's 2006 all over again: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2006-October/088594.html Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 14/07/14 23:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: It used to be that any image imported into a stack, regardless of the original format, was converted to RLE. Is that still the case, or are they now saved as the original jpg, png, etc. ? http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2003-June/017402.html part of which runs: Open the paint tools in RR and use the eraser to click each image, then, immediately click undo: this converts all images into internal bitmap format. However this means that the files grow to about twice their original size. So . . . presumably if that still goes on the way to check is: find out an imported image's size, do the 'thing' with the eraser, find out the imported image's size again: if it has doubled then it is probably now RLE. However; the conversion to RLE format was NOT automatic, and only necessary for display on Macintosh systems; presumably Os 9, 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3. At the moment imported images seem to display on Mac OS systems (10.5, 10.5, 10.7, et al) without any eveidence of internal conversion. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 7/14/2014, 4:06 PM, Richmond wrote: On 14/07/14 23:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: It used to be that any image imported into a stack, regardless of the original format, was converted to RLE. Is that still the case, or are they now saved as the original jpg, png, etc. ? Well? If there is a way to tell what format an embedded image in a stack is in one could work this out. I only need to know if the conversion is still happening. My client is going through hoops converting all their images to jpg to save space in the stack. If everything is being converted to RLE anyway then it doesn't matter what they send me, it's all ending up the same way internally, so they don't need to bother. But I think this changed a while ago, and if so, then we need to import jpgs. But I can't remember. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: RLE images
On 7/14/2014, 4:24 PM, Richmond wrote: Open the paint tools in RR and use the eraser to click each image, then, immediately click undo: this converts all images into internal bitmap format. However this means that the files grow to about twice their original size. So . . . presumably if that still goes on the way to check is: find out an imported image's size, do the 'thing' with the eraser, find out the imported image's size again: if it has doubled then it is probably now RLE. Good suggestion, it doesn't double but it grows by about 1/3. So it appears images are saved into the stack in the original format. If anyone has definitive knowledge, please say. Otherwise I'll go with this. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode