Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM

Well; "burger', "cog" or something else?

Personally a start might be to have the "cog" (if that's what we are 
going to have) with a lot more contrast against its background, or even 
"Heaven forfend" in a different colour.


Richmond.

On 23.02.2016 20:18, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread J. Landman Gay

On February 23, 2016 5:21:55 AM RM  wrote:

I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal
lines sort of icon: neither
worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .


That's a standard icon on Android at least, and it represents a list, 
usually in the form of a menu. In Android circles it's affectionately 
referred to as the "hamburger menu" - - though it's a pretty flat burger.


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM



On 23.02.2016 13:08, Ali Lloyd wrote:

The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.


Um . . . I wonder if that is as intuitive as your interface developers 
think it is?


All sections are set to visible, and if you take a look at the image I 
uploaded to
the BUG report you will see that there is a large, grey, blank space 
where the widgets should show up.


I notice that in Firefox and Thunderbird they use an odd, 3 horizontal 
lines sort of icon: neither

worse nor better than the revTools cog . . .

Possibly there's a chance for a debate about this right now . . .

Richmond.


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:



On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread Ali Lloyd
The tools palette settings menu pops up when you click the 'cog' icon at
the top right of the tools palette.

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 10:59 AM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:
> > Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
> > palette settings?
> >
> >
>   Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?
>
> I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.
>
> Richmond.
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-23 Thread RM



On 22.02.2016 22:38, Ali Lloyd wrote:

Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?



 Where would I find the "submenu of the tools palette setting" ?

I have searched throughout and cannot locate that.

Richmond.

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread William Prothero
Peter:
Thanks! No big rush.
Bill

> On Feb 22, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Peter TB Brett  wrote:
> 
> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>> Peter:
> 
>> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog post, 
> there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the mergExt 
> externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
> 
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further announcement 
> in the near future.
> 
>  Peter
> 
> -- 
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> LiveCode Open Source Team
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread panagiotis merakos
>>> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

Why only 45? I see 53 here (without the duplicates):

http://quality.livecode.com/buglist.cgi?list_id=51971_format=advanced=1456178232-f63548a008c88a1a2a1dc62212585e14_milestone=8.0.0-dp-15

Panos
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On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Peter TB Brett 
wrote:

> On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:
>
>> Peter:
>>
>
> I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
>> there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
>> widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
>> incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.
>>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog
> post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the
> mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.
>
> That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further
> announcement in the near future.
>
>   Peter
>
> --
> Dr Peter Brett 
> LiveCode Open Source Team
>
> LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread Peter TB Brett

On 22/02/2016 18:37, William Prothero wrote:

Peter:



I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is
there a link where we can download them? BTW, congrats on DP15! The
widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as will the
incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.


Hi Bill,

As Kevin and Monte have both noted here, and as mentioned in the blog 
post, there is going to be some work to do to properly integrate the 
mergExt externals into the LiveCode licensing system.


That work is underway, and I expect that there will be a further 
announcement in the near future.


  Peter

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LiveCode Open Source Team

LiveCode 2016 Conference https://livecode.com/edinburgh-2016/

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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread [-hh]
> Peter B. wrote:
> Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of
> LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 15 ... and 45 bug fixes!

What a british understatement for a preview, that's more
a release candidate (we are still in dot-dot state).

Especially the HTML5 part. I'm testing since three hours:
= The dp9-speed is back!!!
= Firefox 44 runs again (and pretty fast).
= Multiple fonts are available.
= The textsystem (measurements) seems close to the IDE now.
= Moves are smooth and look even more exact.
This is an essential progress.

Peter, iOS externals here, iOS externals there, I support that too.

But you and all you others of the team that worked with you in
that HTML5 part, you are *my* heros.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.
The more I read the source code the more I was impressed.
This progress and your ability of solving really difficult problems
is demonstrating again that the HTML5 part is worth the separate
license.

Good bye use-list (will still read the list), good bye sleep tonight,
back to forum, HTML5 (and Raspi)! Was fun here, I learned a lot from
you, thanks!

===
Hermann


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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread Ali Lloyd
Do you have widgets ticked in the show controls submenu of the tools
palette settings?

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 7:48 PM RM  wrote:

>
>
> On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
> > Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15
> > it offered to upgrade me
> > to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.
> >
> > I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is
> > projected to be sorted out for
> > the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.
> >
> > What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have
> > vanished.
> >
> > Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started
> > LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.
>
> I was wrong: BUG report number 16975
>
> >
> > Richmond.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread RM



On 22.02.2016 21:40, RM wrote:
Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started 
LiveCode 8.0 DP 15.


I was wrong: BUG report number 16975



Richmond.





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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread RM
Well; there's a funny thing . . . when I started up LiveCode 8.0 DP 15 
it offered to upgrade me

to LiveCode 7.1.2 RC 3.

I see that on Linux 64 bit the Dictionary still "isn't" but as that is 
projected to be sorted out for

the first Release candidate I'm not fussed.

What IS worrying is that all the Widgets from the revTools stack have 
vanished.


Funny, very funny; that only happened the first time I started LiveCode 
8.0 DP 15.


Richmond.



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.0.0 DP 15

2016-02-22 Thread William Prothero
Peter:
I got a notice that Monte’s externals come with Indy licenses now. Is there a 
link where we can download them?
BTW, congrats on DP15! The widgets are going to be a game changer for LC as 
will the incorporation of Monte’s externals as widgets.

Bill

William Prothero, Ph.D.
University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
proth...@earthednet.org




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