Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Yes it's in the plugins folder. If 5.5 does not alter what that is then GLX2 will load if it's there. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 1:32 PM, Ken Corey wrote: Could the things I've played with in the past (glx2, mobgui, etc) be leaving a plug-in somewhere that 5.5.0 is picking up on? I tried looking in my Users/ken/Library directory, but only saw the preferences file there. Doubtful, if you've restarted and haven't used those, but I'm not sure how GLX works; maybe it always loads. It would be in your plugins folder I think (it's been a very long time since I looked at it.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 12:48, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Ctrl-Shift, right click did it! Thank you! My pleasure! One other thing: I *never* use the 'Apply' button any more. I always apply by using the 'Ctrl-S' save function. (Of course, it's Command-S on Macs). That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. I've been burned a few times by programming for 1/2 an hour, hitting 'Apply' and not saving, only for the IDE to lock, break, obscure itself with too many dialogs, or some other such thing. Teeth-gritting kinds of stuff. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Boy I sure do! But it is an issue with doing something stupid like trying to make changes to code and compile it while I am still debugging using PowerDebug. Don't know if it would happen with the normal debugger so I cannot say it is power debug, and anyway the proper response to compiling code during debugging should be, Don't do that! :-) Also, having tabs open in GLX2 for a stack that has been removed from memory is another great way to lock up the IDE. Again, not sure if the stock editor would behave the same way. I just throw that out there as vectors on IDE lockups that some may not have considered yet. Also, I think Mark Wieder may have addressed this one in the latest release of GLX2. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: That way, when I bork the IDE, or do something silly with 'answer' or 'modal' or whatever, I am 10 seconds away from restarting LiveCode and being right where I was. This happens often enough that IMNSHO the 'Apply' button should simply be removed. Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Menu File/Revert To Saved... Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:25 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
For those using GLX2, you can just hit Command-R (or CTRL-R I suspect in Windows) to revert a script to the last compiled version. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
How did I miss that! Is that somehow different than just quitting the IDE without saving then opening it again? The IDE Undo is a mystery to me. Most of the time when I really need to undo, it doesn't work, particularly when moving/deleting controls on a card. I've learned to save after almost any single change to a card layout before making another change. Pete On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: File menu, Revert to Saved... I work the same way as Jacque, other than I sometimes just close the script window and say Yes to the question about if I want to keep the changes. The main advantage of the Apply button is that you can keep the script window open while you try out different things, without committing to the changes just yet. If Undo worked as well as it does in Flash, then doing a Save wouldn't be such a big deal, you could quickly get back to how it was before the change you were trying. If you're editing an internal script in Flash, you don't even have to Apply either, the changes are already applied as soon as you've typed them. It can get away with that because Flash isn't constantly running in the way that LiveCode is. On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 11:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? The command is in the File menu, though I usually just type it into the message box to avoid the verification dialog. Revert is a LiveCode command that just means reload this stack from the last-saved version on disk. It lets me dink around and then discard all changes in one go. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
Oh nice tip. Bob On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:17 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 11:37 AM, Pete wrote: Hi Jacque, What do you mean by revert the stack? The command is in the File menu, though I usually just type it into the message box to avoid the verification dialog. Revert is a LiveCode command that just means reload this stack from the last-saved version on disk. It lets me dink around and then discard all changes in one go. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 17:25, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. I haven't experienced it much on Windows, but boy do I see it a lot on Mac...at least 3 times per week. When I've just saved and it happens, I simply force quit and restart. If I haven't saved for a while, steam comes out of my ears. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 12:37 PM, Ken Corey wrote: On 06/03/2012 17:25, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 6:57 AM, Ken Corey wrote: Removing Apply would seriously affect my work flow. I routinely try out new things and if I bork it too much to backtrack, I revert the stack. I save manually immediately after every change I want to keep. That's often enough that I rarely lose anything -- but I don't seem to have much trouble with the IDE locking up. I almost never experience it. I haven't experienced it much on Windows, but boy do I see it a lot on Mac...at least 3 times per week. When I've just saved and it happens, I simply force quit and restart. If I haven't saved for a while, steam comes out of my ears. I develop exclusively on Mac and only use other operating systems for testing. Do you use any third-party tools? I keep my IDE native. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 06/03/2012 18:58, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/6/12 12:37 PM, Ken Corey wrote: I develop exclusively on Mac and only use other operating systems for testing. Do you use any third-party tools? I keep my IDE native. Come to mention it, I have installed a few things that installed plug-ins on 5.0.2, but haven't used them. Now, of course, I'm running 5.5.0 dp2, but still seeing the crashes. Could the things I've played with in the past (glx2, mobgui, etc) be leaving a plug-in somewhere that 5.5.0 is picking up on? I tried looking in my Users/ken/Library directory, but only saw the preferences file there. -Ken ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: How to close a modal stack by keyboard?
On 3/6/12 1:32 PM, Ken Corey wrote: Could the things I've played with in the past (glx2, mobgui, etc) be leaving a plug-in somewhere that 5.5.0 is picking up on? I tried looking in my Users/ken/Library directory, but only saw the preferences file there. Doubtful, if you've restarted and haven't used those, but I'm not sure how GLX works; maybe it always loads. It would be in your plugins folder I think (it's been a very long time since I looked at it.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
