Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
If you're behind a nat you'll also have to open some ports so that outside hits are directed towards your server, or you could just designate your server as dmz so that all outside hits no matter what port are sent to your server. I'd probably do the first not the second so that your security risk is reduced. WOuld be a good idea to turn off any services that you don't need too. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Nakia Brewer Nakia.Brewer@... writes: Yes, eventually I will need to make it accessible over the internet. With this method am I true in assuming I will be able to connect to the MySQL Database on my server over the internet? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just haven't done anything with non-local databases. Just catching up on this thread. You have to go out of your way to connect to a database over a network. Normally the database is limited to connections from the same computer the database is running on. This is by design. It's a security risk over a local network, and even more so over the internet. In order to change this you need to change the database configuration, and doing that depends on the type of database you'll be using. A better solution, especially since you're going to be installing LC server, is to let the server connect to the database, and then you talk to the server from a remote connection. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Nakia Brewer Nakia.Brewer@... writes: Yes, eventually I will need to make it accessible over the internet. With this method am I true in assuming I will be able to connect to the MySQL Database on my server over the internet? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just haven't done anything with non-local databases. Just catching up on this thread. You have to go out of your way to connect to a database over a network. Normally the database is limited to connections from the same computer the database is running on. This is by design. It's a security risk over a local network, and even more so over the internet. In order to change this you need to change the database configuration, and doing that depends on the type of database you'll be using. A better solution, especially since you're going to be installing LC server, is to let the server connect to the database, and then you talk to the server from a remote connection. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Hi Nakia You could setup a virtual machine on your local PC using VMware or VirtualBox and install a popular linux (server) distro like Ubuntu. It's a good learning experience. regards alex On 30/03/14 6:41 AM, Nakia Brewer wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Nakia, That sounds reasonable. One step at a time, tho. You'll see the way clearer after you get WAMP working on your local machine. But what you suggest seems reasonable to me. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus,
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your „server“ accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
If you're planning to make your server accessible over the internet... Dynamic DNS solves the problem of the normally non-static IP addresses handed out by ISPs. I just recently signed up at http://duckdns.org/ so I can predictably ssh into my on-rev accounts without needing to have a whitelisted IP. On-rev support whitelisted my DDNS domain name instead (which is actually a free subdomain at duckdns.org) instead of my current IP, and now all is right with the world. At least that world. Phil Davis On 3/30/14, 7:49 AM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your „server“ accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list
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Okay, again.. Thanks for everyone's help! I didn't get a chance to get it installed yesterday (the grass needed mowing) so hopefully tonight.. Will let you all know how I go with the Windows install Nakia Brewer | Technology Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D Sent: Monday, 31 March 2014 1:50 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Advice of cheap/free online server Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your server accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription
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Thanks for this. Yes, eventually I will need to make it accessible over the internet. With this method am I true in assuming I will be able to connect to the MySQL Database on my server over the internet? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just haven't done anything with non-local databases. Nakia Brewer | Technology Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Phil Davis Sent: Monday, 31 March 2014 5:12 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Advice of cheap/free online server If you're planning to make your server accessible over the internet... Dynamic DNS solves the problem of the normally non-static IP addresses handed out by ISPs. I just recently signed up at http://duckdns.org/ so I can predictably ssh into my on-rev accounts without needing to have a whitelisted IP. On-rev support whitelisted my DDNS domain name instead (which is actually a free subdomain at duckdns.org) instead of my current IP, and now all is right with the world. At least that world. Phil Davis On 3/30/14, 7:49 AM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your server accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly
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Good question! I don't know the answer but it seems plausible to me that it would work. Phil On 3/30/14, 2:15 PM, Nakia Brewer wrote: Thanks for this. Yes, eventually I will need to make it accessible over the internet. With this method am I true in assuming I will be able to connect to the MySQL Database on my server over the internet? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just haven't done anything with non-local databases. Nakia Brewer | Technology Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Phil Davis Sent: Monday, 31 March 2014 5:12 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Advice of cheap/free online server If you're planning to make your server accessible over the internet... Dynamic DNS solves the problem of the normally non-static IP addresses handed out by ISPs. I just recently signed up at http://duckdns.org/ so I can predictably ssh into my on-rev accounts without needing to have a whitelisted IP. On-rev support whitelisted my DDNS domain name instead (which is actually a free subdomain at duckdns.org) instead of my current IP, and now all is right with the world. At least that world. Phil Davis On 3/30/14, 7:49 AM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your server accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you
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If you are on the mac, I advice you to try virtualHost http://clickontyler.com/virtualhostx/ in conjunction with MAMP http://www.mamp.info/en/ this allows deployment of your website on your LAN. Excellent for testing your site on mobile devices. For a small fee, you can deploy it on the internet, provided the site is static with their Lift Off service. Best François Le 30 mars 2014 à 23:15, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au a écrit : Thanks for this. Yes, eventually I will need to make it accessible over the internet. With this method am I true in assuming I will be able to connect to the MySQL Database on my server over the internet? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I just haven't done anything with non-local databases. Nakia Brewer | Technology Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Phil Davis Sent: Monday, 31 March 2014 5:12 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Advice of cheap/free online server If you're planning to make your server accessible over the internet... Dynamic DNS solves the problem of the normally non-static IP addresses handed out by ISPs. I just recently signed up at http://duckdns.org/ so I can predictably ssh into my on-rev accounts without needing to have a whitelisted IP. On-rev support whitelisted my DDNS domain name instead (which is actually a free subdomain at duckdns.org) instead of my current IP, and now all is right with the world. At least that world. Phil Davis On 3/30/14, 7:49 AM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Hi Nakia, you only would need a domain name if you want to make your server accessible from the internet. And even then you do not need a domain. If you have a static ip from your isp you could use these ip address to connect to the server. Or if you have a dynamic ip address from your isp you could use a free dynamic dns service where you let your server automatically update that ip every time you get a new one from your isp. Matthias Am 30.03.2014 um 08:45 schrieb Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au: Okay, Thanks. I figured for testing I could install it on my local machine and I would be off. Going further forward though maybe I can install this on an old windows PC I have, buy a domain name and I have my own 'server' environment that I can use for my small programs I build.. Am I correct with this line of thinking? Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 4:58 pm, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Nakia, On the Mac, which is the only system I've tried it on, you get a ready to go installation. You can set it to have a different port and local host IP address, so you don't need a domain name. The setup tells you how to do this. I also have an installation on a separate server that I can access remotely, but for testing, it's most convenient on my local development machine. The WAMP version probably is different in many details, but on the Mac, it's ridiculously easy to set up. I created a pretty hairy php code with a debugger, breakpoints and all, where I wanted to tie into a drupal login system to verify a user for a separate application. And I'm pretty crappy with php. I think, if you just jump in and try it, you will be happy, but then it's windows, so. I'd be interested in hearing how the windows installation goes. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Nakia Brewer wrote: I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. The best server for learning is also the cheapest: an old PC you've retired sitting in your garage. If you have a computer you're not using, just about any x86 made in the last several years will run Linux/Apache/MySQL/LiveCode Server just fine. All the software you need is free. I like Ubuntu Server myself, since the size of the community makes it very easy to find help for. With a test server in your own office you have the freedom to explore without having to worry about disrupting dozens of other users on a shared host. You'll have to learn a bit more, but that's the reason you want to do this anyway, yes? The things you'll learn will definitely be very valuable no matter what type of hosting you later use for deployment. And with your own computer you can have something no hosted server can provide: a GUI. On older machines Lubuntu runs very well. I use it on my development server, along with Apache, ownCloud, and other goodies. I've learned a lot in the process, and it's paid off well with the sites I host on publicly-accessible servers. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Have you looked at the back-end as a service offerings such as parse.com? They have a free level. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Nakia Brewer wrote: I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. The best server for learning is also the cheapest: an old PC you've retired sitting in your garage. If you have a computer you're not using, just about any x86 made in the last several years will run Linux/Apache/MySQL/LiveCode Server just fine. All the software you need is free. I like Ubuntu Server myself, since the size of the community makes it very easy to find help for. With a test server in your own office you have the freedom to explore without having to worry about disrupting dozens of other users on a shared host. You'll have to learn a bit more, but that's the reason you want to do this anyway, yes? The things you'll learn will definitely be very valuable no matter what type of hosting you later use for deployment. And with your own computer you can have something no hosted server can provide: a GUI. On older machines Lubuntu runs very well. I use it on my development server, along with Apache, ownCloud, and other goodies. I've learned a lot in the process, and it's paid off well with the sites I host on publicly-accessible servers. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Advice of cheap/free online server
Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Thanks everyone for these suggestions. Guess what I am doing this afternoon! Dumb question (please don't laugh) if I get this working the way I want and all the stuff I need is small (small database, minimal traffic) can I just keep it on this dedicated PC of mine ? Guess I just need to buy a domain? Is that correct? Remember, please don't laugh... Sent from my iPhone On 30 Mar 2014, at 10:32 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Google WAMP. On the Mac, it's MAMP. Easy to install, contains Apache, MySQL, and php. You can run it on your desktop computer. Also, free. Install is trivial. You can install the LC server on it and do your testing. It's so easy I don't know why more folks don't suggest it. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Mar 29, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote: Hi, I want to learn how to use LC server scripts (try and improve my knowledge and progress my learning) but currently don't have access to a web-server. Can some offer some advice for cheap (best free) web server space that I could use to do some testing.. Needs to be able to run LC scripts and MySQL database. I have no interest in building a website with this server. I also want to use this server to host a MySQL database that a desktop allocation will communicate to (I presume I can do this over internet? Connect to an online MySQL database from a desktop LiveCode application) Any advice someone might have would be appreciated... Sent from my iPhone COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
