Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread Richard Gaskin

David Bovill wrote:

I can  definitely contribute to working on and providing existing code for
a number of these api's. Integrating LiveCode with some of these Restful
api's by providing documented libraries and sample stacks would be great.

Let's start with whatever people have, and look at the current state of
open source code for API's?


Do we have a current robust OAuth2 lib in the community?

So much depends on that red wheel barrow

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Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread David Bovill
Hi Roland:

On Wednesday, 4 November 2015, Roland Huettmann 
wrote:
>
>
> I would be very much interested in unlocking and accessing all kinds of
> APIs, such as Google, Gmail, or Skype, Viber, or Facebook, etc.


I can  definitely contribute to working on and providing existing code for
a number of these api's. Integrating LiveCode with some of these Restful
api's by providing documented libraries and sample stacks would be great.

Let's start with whatever people have, and look at the current state of
open source code for API's?

>From a general user point of view: What about   a Unified MyData Tool where
> all communication is hooked to one central place bringing together all my
> activities, all my mail, all my tasks and all my events under one roof?


dAT is an interesting project


>
> Roland
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015, 18:38 Matt Maier >
> wrote:
>
> > The focus is on a general purpose framework for modeling many orthogonal
> > dimensions of information using entities and relationships. When the
> model
> > is built correctly the information in it can be queried to produce many
> > useful things, a subset of which are visuals like business/network
> graphs.
> > But for my goal I won't have a use for business graphs any time soon, so
> > the stuff I'm writing to display graph data is just networks.
> >
> > Livecode makes it relatively easy to draw stuff on the screen, so one of
> > the things I'd like to give back to the community is a standardized
> > interface for pushing graph data into a control and getting back queries
> > for new data. I'm a new, self-taught coder and I didn't have all that
> much
> > trouble implementing an array with graph data and several algorithms for
> > processing it. Therefore I conclude that it should be pretty straight
> > forward to implement all of the common expectations of a graphing library
> > in Livecode. Whether or not it is memory efficient and/or scales at all
> > well is a different question :)
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Bovill 
> wrote:
> >
> > > That sounds like a great topic for a small research group. I'd
> certainly
> > > join in. Do you mean business graphs, or general network graphs?
> > >
> > > On 3 November 2015 at 16:24, Matt Maier  > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm building an open source graph manipulation and drawing library in
> > > > Livecode. The point is for it to be modular but I'm building it to
> do a
> > > > specific thing right now, so it isn't all that modular. It's still
> > young
> > > so
> > > > there's plenty of room for new ideas.
> > > >
> > > > I could use help in the more official "graph" areas since I don't
> have
> > > any
> > > > particular background in graphs, they just turned out to be useful
> for
> > my
> > > > goals. For example, I'd like to find out if it makes sense to store
> the
> > > > graphs in a graph database (ATM I'm just exporting the array to JSON
> > text
> > > > files). It would also be nice to find out if an existing graph
> > > description
> > > > language will work or if I have to define my own. And, of course,
> > there's
> > > > the fun of trying to optimize the algorithms to allow more nodes into
> > > > memory. Maybe someone knows how to just use an existing graph library
> > > from
> > > > Livecode?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I'm planning to make a widget for displaying the graphs but I
> > > haven't
> > > > learned LCB yet. Someone who already knows LCB could speed that up.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Bovill 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This weekend at MozFest - https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ we are
> > > > running
> > > > > a series of workshops over the weekend using Livecode, and
> Raspberry
> > > > Pi's.
> > > > > We are looking to raise interest in Livecode, and to attract
> > developers
> > > > to
> > > > > your projects, helping build communities around open source
> software
> > > > > projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have an open source software project and you would like to
> > > attract
> > > > > developers, or volunteers to the project, and present it at
> MozFest -
> > > let
> > > > > us know about the project either here or off-list and we can
> present
> > > it /
> > > > > organise a workshop around the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will be helping to organise a series of online coding sessions
> as
> > a
> > > > > successor to the LiveCode TV project we started a couple of years
> > back
> > > -
> > > > > but with a new platform and new methodology. This means even if you
> > > can't
> > > > > make it to MozFest this weekend in London, you can take part online
> > and
> > > > > follow this up with regular weekly coding sessions, where we can
> all
> > > get
> > > > > together code, talk, and generally hang out around great open
> source
> > > > > projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any proposals or thoughts on projects that could benefit from
> > getting a
> > > > few
> > > > > heads around it, or new topics that you would like to learn about

Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread Roland Huettmann
I do not know if this contribution applies here, but i see a need for a
project about 2D and 3D text rendering. At least rendering text is
something useful for a LiveCode project, in my point of view.

Then what about drawing interactive relationship graphs for database
application development defining database objects which will also be
defining the databases inserting a middle layer, and at the same time in
Livecode such database application could become live, using different
themes and styles, allowing to enter data and using data browsing
immediately?

Then there is a business need to draw items interactively based on sizes
and other attributes in vector formats, to store and display them.

I would be very much interested in unlocking and accessing all kinds of
APIs, such as Google, Gmail, or Skype, Viber, or Facebook, etc.

>From a general user point of view: What about   a Unified MyData Tool where
all communication is hooked to one central place bringing together all my
activities, all my mail, all my tasks and all my events under one roof?

Roland



On Tue, Nov 3, 2015, 18:38 Matt Maier  wrote:

> The focus is on a general purpose framework for modeling many orthogonal
> dimensions of information using entities and relationships. When the model
> is built correctly the information in it can be queried to produce many
> useful things, a subset of which are visuals like business/network graphs.
> But for my goal I won't have a use for business graphs any time soon, so
> the stuff I'm writing to display graph data is just networks.
>
> Livecode makes it relatively easy to draw stuff on the screen, so one of
> the things I'd like to give back to the community is a standardized
> interface for pushing graph data into a control and getting back queries
> for new data. I'm a new, self-taught coder and I didn't have all that much
> trouble implementing an array with graph data and several algorithms for
> processing it. Therefore I conclude that it should be pretty straight
> forward to implement all of the common expectations of a graphing library
> in Livecode. Whether or not it is memory efficient and/or scales at all
> well is a different question :)
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Bovill  wrote:
>
> > That sounds like a great topic for a small research group. I'd certainly
> > join in. Do you mean business graphs, or general network graphs?
> >
> > On 3 November 2015 at 16:24, Matt Maier  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm building an open source graph manipulation and drawing library in
> > > Livecode. The point is for it to be modular but I'm building it to do a
> > > specific thing right now, so it isn't all that modular. It's still
> young
> > so
> > > there's plenty of room for new ideas.
> > >
> > > I could use help in the more official "graph" areas since I don't have
> > any
> > > particular background in graphs, they just turned out to be useful for
> my
> > > goals. For example, I'd like to find out if it makes sense to store the
> > > graphs in a graph database (ATM I'm just exporting the array to JSON
> text
> > > files). It would also be nice to find out if an existing graph
> > description
> > > language will work or if I have to define my own. And, of course,
> there's
> > > the fun of trying to optimize the algorithms to allow more nodes into
> > > memory. Maybe someone knows how to just use an existing graph library
> > from
> > > Livecode?
> > >
> > > Also, I'm planning to make a widget for displaying the graphs but I
> > haven't
> > > learned LCB yet. Someone who already knows LCB could speed that up.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Bovill 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This weekend at MozFest - https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ we are
> > > running
> > > > a series of workshops over the weekend using Livecode, and Raspberry
> > > Pi's.
> > > > We are looking to raise interest in Livecode, and to attract
> developers
> > > to
> > > > your projects, helping build communities around open source software
> > > > projects.
> > > >
> > > > If you have an open source software project and you would like to
> > attract
> > > > developers, or volunteers to the project, and present it at MozFest -
> > let
> > > > us know about the project either here or off-list and we can present
> > it /
> > > > organise a workshop around the project.
> > > >
> > > > We will be helping to organise a series of online coding sessions as
> a
> > > > successor to the LiveCode TV project we started a couple of years
> back
> > -
> > > > but with a new platform and new methodology. This means even if you
> > can't
> > > > make it to MozFest this weekend in London, you can take part online
> and
> > > > follow this up with regular weekly coding sessions, where we can all
> > get
> > > > together code, talk, and generally hang out around great open source
> > > > projects.
> > > >
> > > > Any proposals or thoughts on projects that could benefit from
> getting a
> > > few
> > > > heads around it, or new to

Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread Matt Maier
The focus is on a general purpose framework for modeling many orthogonal
dimensions of information using entities and relationships. When the model
is built correctly the information in it can be queried to produce many
useful things, a subset of which are visuals like business/network graphs.
But for my goal I won't have a use for business graphs any time soon, so
the stuff I'm writing to display graph data is just networks.

Livecode makes it relatively easy to draw stuff on the screen, so one of
the things I'd like to give back to the community is a standardized
interface for pushing graph data into a control and getting back queries
for new data. I'm a new, self-taught coder and I didn't have all that much
trouble implementing an array with graph data and several algorithms for
processing it. Therefore I conclude that it should be pretty straight
forward to implement all of the common expectations of a graphing library
in Livecode. Whether or not it is memory efficient and/or scales at all
well is a different question :)

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:00 AM, David Bovill  wrote:

> That sounds like a great topic for a small research group. I'd certainly
> join in. Do you mean business graphs, or general network graphs?
>
> On 3 November 2015 at 16:24, Matt Maier  wrote:
>
> > I'm building an open source graph manipulation and drawing library in
> > Livecode. The point is for it to be modular but I'm building it to do a
> > specific thing right now, so it isn't all that modular. It's still young
> so
> > there's plenty of room for new ideas.
> >
> > I could use help in the more official "graph" areas since I don't have
> any
> > particular background in graphs, they just turned out to be useful for my
> > goals. For example, I'd like to find out if it makes sense to store the
> > graphs in a graph database (ATM I'm just exporting the array to JSON text
> > files). It would also be nice to find out if an existing graph
> description
> > language will work or if I have to define my own. And, of course, there's
> > the fun of trying to optimize the algorithms to allow more nodes into
> > memory. Maybe someone knows how to just use an existing graph library
> from
> > Livecode?
> >
> > Also, I'm planning to make a widget for displaying the graphs but I
> haven't
> > learned LCB yet. Someone who already knows LCB could speed that up.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Bovill 
> wrote:
> >
> > > This weekend at MozFest - https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ we are
> > running
> > > a series of workshops over the weekend using Livecode, and Raspberry
> > Pi's.
> > > We are looking to raise interest in Livecode, and to attract developers
> > to
> > > your projects, helping build communities around open source software
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > If you have an open source software project and you would like to
> attract
> > > developers, or volunteers to the project, and present it at MozFest -
> let
> > > us know about the project either here or off-list and we can present
> it /
> > > organise a workshop around the project.
> > >
> > > We will be helping to organise a series of online coding sessions as a
> > > successor to the LiveCode TV project we started a couple of years back
> -
> > > but with a new platform and new methodology. This means even if you
> can't
> > > make it to MozFest this weekend in London, you can take part online and
> > > follow this up with regular weekly coding sessions, where we can all
> get
> > > together code, talk, and generally hang out around great open source
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > Any proposals or thoughts on projects that could benefit from getting a
> > few
> > > heads around it, or new topics that you would like to learn about or
> open
> > > source libraries that you think the community should / you would like
> to
> > > help out developing?
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Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread David Bovill
That sounds like a great topic for a small research group. I'd certainly
join in. Do you mean business graphs, or general network graphs?

On 3 November 2015 at 16:24, Matt Maier  wrote:

> I'm building an open source graph manipulation and drawing library in
> Livecode. The point is for it to be modular but I'm building it to do a
> specific thing right now, so it isn't all that modular. It's still young so
> there's plenty of room for new ideas.
>
> I could use help in the more official "graph" areas since I don't have any
> particular background in graphs, they just turned out to be useful for my
> goals. For example, I'd like to find out if it makes sense to store the
> graphs in a graph database (ATM I'm just exporting the array to JSON text
> files). It would also be nice to find out if an existing graph description
> language will work or if I have to define my own. And, of course, there's
> the fun of trying to optimize the algorithms to allow more nodes into
> memory. Maybe someone knows how to just use an existing graph library from
> Livecode?
>
> Also, I'm planning to make a widget for displaying the graphs but I haven't
> learned LCB yet. Someone who already knows LCB could speed that up.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Bovill  wrote:
>
> > This weekend at MozFest - https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ we are
> running
> > a series of workshops over the weekend using Livecode, and Raspberry
> Pi's.
> > We are looking to raise interest in Livecode, and to attract developers
> to
> > your projects, helping build communities around open source software
> > projects.
> >
> > If you have an open source software project and you would like to attract
> > developers, or volunteers to the project, and present it at MozFest - let
> > us know about the project either here or off-list and we can present it /
> > organise a workshop around the project.
> >
> > We will be helping to organise a series of online coding sessions as a
> > successor to the LiveCode TV project we started a couple of years back -
> > but with a new platform and new methodology. This means even if you can't
> > make it to MozFest this weekend in London, you can take part online and
> > follow this up with regular weekly coding sessions, where we can all get
> > together code, talk, and generally hang out around great open source
> > projects.
> >
> > Any proposals or thoughts on projects that could benefit from getting a
> few
> > heads around it, or new topics that you would like to learn about or open
> > source libraries that you think the community should / you would like to
> > help out developing?
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Re: Call for LiveCode projects: LiveCode and Science at MozFest this weekend.

2015-11-03 Thread Matt Maier
I'm building an open source graph manipulation and drawing library in
Livecode. The point is for it to be modular but I'm building it to do a
specific thing right now, so it isn't all that modular. It's still young so
there's plenty of room for new ideas.

I could use help in the more official "graph" areas since I don't have any
particular background in graphs, they just turned out to be useful for my
goals. For example, I'd like to find out if it makes sense to store the
graphs in a graph database (ATM I'm just exporting the array to JSON text
files). It would also be nice to find out if an existing graph description
language will work or if I have to define my own. And, of course, there's
the fun of trying to optimize the algorithms to allow more nodes into
memory. Maybe someone knows how to just use an existing graph library from
Livecode?

Also, I'm planning to make a widget for displaying the graphs but I haven't
learned LCB yet. Someone who already knows LCB could speed that up.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:54 AM, David Bovill  wrote:

> This weekend at MozFest - https://2015.mozillafestival.org/ we are running
> a series of workshops over the weekend using Livecode, and Raspberry Pi's.
> We are looking to raise interest in Livecode, and to attract developers to
> your projects, helping build communities around open source software
> projects.
>
> If you have an open source software project and you would like to attract
> developers, or volunteers to the project, and present it at MozFest - let
> us know about the project either here or off-list and we can present it /
> organise a workshop around the project.
>
> We will be helping to organise a series of online coding sessions as a
> successor to the LiveCode TV project we started a couple of years back -
> but with a new platform and new methodology. This means even if you can't
> make it to MozFest this weekend in London, you can take part online and
> follow this up with regular weekly coding sessions, where we can all get
> together code, talk, and generally hang out around great open source
> projects.
>
> Any proposals or thoughts on projects that could benefit from getting a few
> heads around it, or new topics that you would like to learn about or open
> source libraries that you think the community should / you would like to
> help out developing?
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