Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Installing-iOS-SDK-and-Xcode-on-Windows-7-tp3702599p3703277.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
Would LiveCode for iOS work in such an environment? On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 05:14, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote: I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Shao Sean wrote: I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure iOS dev is limited to Mac Only. :\ They are running the tools in a virtual machine so as far as the software is aware it is running on a Mac.. True, the software would not know the difference, but the user definitely would because it would be prohibitively slow in a vm. I googled tonymac, and found that people apparently are running directly on i5 and i7 machines with the OS installed directly from purchased retail install media. Due to Apple licensing restrictions, one can't use such a system in a business, but it is quite interesting what is technically possible. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote: it would be prohibitively slow in a vm Roger, Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience running VirtualBox is that the guest OSs run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS for development purposes because certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm won't provide. That said, for many purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very usable and useful indeed. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 10:09:13 AM Roger Eller wrote: it would be prohibitively slow in a vm Roger, Have you some disappointing experience running vms? My own experience running VirtualBox is that the guest OSs run quite snappily. I cannot recommend that one rely on a virtualized OS for development purposes because certain OS features are bound to be tied to hardware features that the vm won't provide. That said, for many purposes, including some kinds of testing during development, they are very usable and useful indeed. Best, Warren A few years ago, I remember seeing a video of Leopard running in a vm, maybe even Snow Leopard. It could not utilise quartz/core graphics, and the hard-drive was not a real partition, there was no 3D acceleration or access to the video card, so it made the overall system appear slow. But according to what the tonymac people are saying, it doesn't have to be this way. They seem to now have it running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome, but the question was regarding performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of slowness running any OS inside a virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed by the OP, and am very disturbed by the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided paying what are legitimate fees, but my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum, Here fishy fishy... Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
Warren, *What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it?* Unfortunately at the moment I cannot meet the requirementshttp://techexxpert.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-to-virtualize-os-x-on-windows-7.htmlto test the setup, for I don't have the hardware or the software to do that. That's exactly why I posted at this forum. If I come to the conclusion that the setup works, I will invest some money in hardware and software. Please notice that I did not propose to implement anything. Best regards, Hyberson On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 14:53, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome, but the question was regarding performance within a virtual machine. I do not suffer any serious degree of slowness running any OS inside a virtual machine here. I don't particularly encourage the venture proposed by the OP, and am very disturbed by the preoccupation of the author of the article he references with avoided paying what are legitimate fees, but my experience does not support your prediction. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. What I find most curious about the original post, is how does the OP propose to implement this if he cannot also test it? It makes me think of a post I saw the other day in a forum, Here fishy fishy... Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Installing iOS SDK and Xcode on Windows 7.
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On Friday, July 29, 2011 12:04:49 PM Roger Eller wrote: running natively on brand new i7 machines with high-end video cards. The Hackintosh is not a great secret, and indeed there is no reason for OS X not to run beautifully on non- Apple hardware once the issues of booting and certain drivers are overcome... Agreed. I think the sort of statement you make presents unwarranted discouragement to those who may otherwise find virtualization a very useful and convenient tool for certain purposes. As I stated, the only vm of OS X that I have seen was 'years' ago. If it has been improved, and you find it useful, that is great news! I sincerely hope Apple someday will encourage everyone to buy a copy. I think eventually, they will. I only discourage using without paying. Best, Warren ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
