Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
On 31/03/14 23:00, Terence Heaford wrote: Forgive my scepticism. I have just followed your link and noted the following under the Cocoa stretch goal. Despite this we are NOT getting native Cocoa controls. Upgrade our Mac OS X platform support to fully use Cocoa. This will ensure seamless support of all the latest Mac OS X features. Create beautiful OS X apps that get all little user interface details spot on. All the best Terry 'Stretch' is as stretch does. The word implies all sorts of things: 1. Attaining those goals can be stretched for quite some time. 2. 'Stretching the truth' is a nifty phrase. 3. Remember those Physics lessons and Hooke's law? ALSO: If you go back and look at the Kickstarter goals ('goals' as in 'goals', let alone 'stretch goals') you will see that there is quite some time to go before those have all been implemented. One of the most interesting (and the most contentious as far as I am concerned) is a new GUI . . . although I notice nothing has been said about that subsequently: whether quietly dropped or shelved indefinitely, who knows. In fact, if I am really honest I would be very happy if RunRev could give us some sort of GANTT chart-like thing with all those Kickstarter goals and stretch goals so we could have some idea as to when (relatively speaking) we could expect some of them to be implemented. - I would hope that your scepticism is caused by the lack of complete openness in RunRev's part re attaining those goals, rather than their having dropped and/or adjusted some of them post the Kickstarter campaign without telling the investors why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
When can Mac Users have a Tab Panel that does not display the selected tab with black text on a dark grey background? I am a new user of LC and find this rather off-putting. I believe, not 100% sure, that this has been requested 2 years ago? Thanks Terry On 31 Mar 2014, at 18:47, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1. This is a maintenance release for the 6.6 series and contain 4 bug fixes. The most notable bug fix is 12010 which resulted in quite a number of bug reports on Windows. It caused applications to stop redrawing correctly, lock ups and even crashes when applications were run for a long period of time. *Release Contents* - 4 bug fixes - 12010 - Windows engine hangs after multiple stack redraws. - 11975 - import snapshot from rect ... only imports part of the screen on Windows - 11946 - iOS 7.1 Simulator doesn't remember device type when launching using 'Test' - 11708 - Android apps only partially drawn after rotating device during lock screen *Getting this release* To upgrade to this release please select check for updates from the help menu in LiveCode or download the installers directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ *Reporting Bugs* If you encounter an issue with this release please submit a bug report to our quality centre: http://quality.runrev.com/enter_bug.cgi Warm regards, The LiveCode Team _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
Hear, hear. Peter On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: When can Mac Users have a Tab Panel that does not display the selected tab with black text on a dark grey background? I am a new user of LC and find this rather off-putting. I believe, not 100% sure, that this has been requested 2 years ago? Thanks Terry On 31 Mar 2014, at 18:47, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1. This is a maintenance release for the 6.6 series and contain 4 bug fixes. The most notable bug fix is 12010 which resulted in quite a number of bug reports on Windows. It caused applications to stop redrawing correctly, lock ups and even crashes when applications were run for a long period of time. *Release Contents* - 4 bug fixes - 12010 - Windows engine hangs after multiple stack redraws. - 11975 - import snapshot from rect ... only imports part of the screen on Windows - 11946 - iOS 7.1 Simulator doesn't remember device type when launching using 'Test' - 11708 - Android apps only partially drawn after rotating device during lock screen *Getting this release* To upgrade to this release please select check for updates from the help menu in LiveCode or download the installers directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ *Reporting Bugs* If you encounter an issue with this release please submit a bug report to our quality centre: http://quality.runrev.com/enter_bug.cgi Warm regards, The LiveCode Team _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
On Mar 31, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Hear, hear. Peter On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: When can Mac Users have a Tab Panel that does not display the selected tab with black text on a dark grey background? I am a new user of LC and find this rather off-putting. I believe, not 100% sure, that this has been requested 2 years ago? This will probably be doable once theming is added. It was one of the Kickstarter stretch goals. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode/posts/414431 Devin Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
Forgive my scepticism. I have just followed your link and noted the following under the Cocoa stretch goal. Despite this we are NOT getting native Cocoa controls. Upgrade our Mac OS X platform support to fully use Cocoa. This will ensure seamless support of all the latest Mac OS X features. Create beautiful OS X apps that get all little user interface details spot on. All the best Terry On 31 Mar 2014, at 20:45, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote: On Mar 31, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Hear, hear. Peter On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: When can Mac Users have a Tab Panel that does not display the selected tab with black text on a dark grey background? I am a new user of LC and find this rather off-putting. I believe, not 100% sure, that this has been requested 2 years ago? This will probably be doable once theming is added. It was one of the Kickstarter stretch goals. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode/posts/414431 Devin Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCode 6.6.1 RC1
On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote: Forgive my scepticism. I have just followed your link and noted the following under the Cocoa stretch goal. Despite this we are NOT getting native Cocoa controls. Upgrade our Mac OS X platform support to fully use Cocoa. This will ensure seamless support of all the latest Mac OS X features. Create beautiful OS X apps that get all little user interface details spot on. Point taken. But there are lots of reasons to upgrade to Cocoa, native controls is only one of them. The LiveCode team seem to be focusing on the under-the-hood stuff for now. From the release notes: • Allow embedding of native 'NSViews' into LiveCode windows (in particular, browser controls). • Enable submission of LiveCode apps to the Mac AppStore. • Enable eventual building of 64-bit versions of LiveCode for Mac. The point of theme support, on the other hand, is pretty narrow--allow developers to create exactly the look and feel they want. RunRev are still in the early stages of implementing some of these stretch goals. I wouldn't give up pushing for native Cocoa controls. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode