Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
The Mac App Store is kind of a Snow Leopard thing. Apple decided to distribute Lion initially via the Mac App Store so ... if you do not have Snow Leopard installed, you cannot buy and install it. It is my understanding that there will be a version of Lion that comes on physical media that you will be able to buy from Apple. Once it was done and ready to ship, it took them a couple of minutes to start shipping Lion via the Mac App Store. It will take several weeks to create enough physical media to allow people to buy it in an Apple store. What you are seeing is not that they are making you jump through hoops to buy it. Instead what you are seeing is that under certain circumstances you were able to buy it a couple of minutes after it was declared done and final. In the past everyone would have to wait several weeks for physical distribution. Because you do not have the specific setup for immediate distribution, you'll have to wait for the physical media distribution. Kee Nethery ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
Hi Tiemo. You are not alone. A lot of raised eyebrows are only now relaxing after learning of Apple's method of delivery. If you upgrade to Snow Leopard and then do all the updates, you would see in your Apple Menu under Software Updates a new item called App Store. If you went there and set up a new Apple Store account (or used an existing one) you could search for and purchase Lion. Once you did that, Lion would install on your computer. Some people are surmising that soon Apple will sell Lion on a USB stick (or else how are all the Leopard users going to get it)? I tend to believe these rumors simply because it is unreasonable to require Leopard users to upgrade to Snow Leopard before upgrading to Lion (unless they make Snow Leopard upgrade free). Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Probably I should address this to the apple support, but I know here are a lot of kind guys, willing to help also OT much faster as apple. Today I wanted to buy lion to make a dual boot install on my mac, because I had first customer calls telling me about trouble with my program on lion. Because of a slow internet connection I went to the next computer shop and heard them telling that lion won't be available on CD, only download. Ok I returned home, heading several nights of download, opened apple.com, opened the lion announcement and it pointed me first to itunes and then to the macappstore, which couldn't be opened by my safari. Safari tells me that it can't open pages, beginning with macappstore://. So I begun to read and learned that snow leopard is a requirement to open the macappstore and so to buy lion!??? (I still have leopard on my mac and didn't wanted to upgrade) Trying to buy lion in a non apple online shop, they tell me I have to buy it at apple. Never using my mac, beside of testing my programs, the restrictive apple world is still a big secret for me, even after years. Can anybody shed some light on how I can buy a full version of lion (to create a dual boot) without this silly macappstore? Or do I really have to go again to a computer shop to buy snow leopard, install it to get ready for buying lion? I think I will never love apple. Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
Oh, by the way I hope you mean Dual Partition. Dual boot *can* mean to install two operating systems on one partition (you can actually do this with Windows but no one recommends it). You will want to install Lion on a second partition or hard drive, because Lion is going to overwrite your existing OS. It may also do some nonsense with the boot sector. Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Probably I should address this to the apple support, but I know here are a lot of kind guys, willing to help also OT much faster as apple. Today I wanted to buy lion to make a dual boot install on my mac, because I had first customer calls telling me about trouble with my program on lion. Because of a slow internet connection I went to the next computer shop and heard them telling that lion won't be available on CD, only download. Ok I returned home, heading several nights of download, opened apple.com, opened the lion announcement and it pointed me first to itunes and then to the macappstore, which couldn't be opened by my safari. Safari tells me that it can't open pages, beginning with macappstore://. So I begun to read and learned that snow leopard is a requirement to open the macappstore and so to buy lion!??? (I still have leopard on my mac and didn't wanted to upgrade) Trying to buy lion in a non apple online shop, they tell me I have to buy it at apple. Never using my mac, beside of testing my programs, the restrictive apple world is still a big secret for me, even after years. Can anybody shed some light on how I can buy a full version of lion (to create a dual boot) without this silly macappstore? Or do I really have to go again to a computer shop to buy snow leopard, install it to get ready for buying lion? I think I will never love apple. Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
Hi Tiemo, It is not necessary to wait for Lion on a USB-stick. Don McAllister from screencastsonline did the following; 1. buy Lion from App store; 2. make a copy from the installer (in your application folder); 3. open up the copy of the installer package, then open the folder Shared Support in it; 4. there you'll find InstallEDG.dmg; 5. copy this file to an USB-stick 8 gb. That's all. Arie Op 27 jul. 2011, om 20:02 heeft Tiemo Hollmann TB het volgende geschreven: Hi Bob, thank you for showing me that I am not the only one! That helps (at least for my mind). And yes I meant dual partition! Thanks for reminding me Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 19:35 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: Re: OT: I want to buy Lion Hi Tiemo. You are not alone. A lot of raised eyebrows are only now relaxing after learning of Apple's method of delivery. If you upgrade to Snow Leopard and then do all the updates, you would see in your Apple Menu under Software Updates a new item called App Store. If you went there and set up a new Apple Store account (or used an existing one) you could search for and purchase Lion. Once you did that, Lion would install on your computer. Some people are surmising that soon Apple will sell Lion on a USB stick (or else how are all the Leopard users going to get it)? I tend to believe these rumors simply because it is unreasonable to require Leopard users to upgrade to Snow Leopard before upgrading to Lion (unless they make Snow Leopard upgrade free). Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Probably I should address this to the apple support, but I know here are a lot of kind guys, willing to help also OT much faster as apple. Today I wanted to buy lion to make a dual boot install on my mac, because I had first customer calls telling me about trouble with my program on lion. Because of a slow internet connection I went to the next computer shop and heard them telling that lion won't be available on CD, only download. Ok I returned home, heading several nights of download, opened apple.com, opened the lion announcement and it pointed me first to itunes and then to the macappstore, which couldn't be opened by my safari. Safari tells me that it can't open pages, beginning with macappstore://. So I begun to read and learned that snow leopard is a requirement to open the macappstore and so to buy lion!??? (I still have leopard on my mac and didn't wanted to upgrade) Trying to buy lion in a non apple online shop, they tell me I have to buy it at apple. Never using my mac, beside of testing my programs, the restrictive apple world is still a big secret for me, even after years. Can anybody shed some light on how I can buy a full version of lion (to create a dual boot) without this silly macappstore? Or do I really have to go again to a computer shop to buy snow leopard, install it to get ready for buying lion? I think I will never love apple. Thanks for any hints Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 01:20:05 PM Arie van der Ent wrote: Hi Tiemo, It is not necessary to wait for Lion on a USB-stick. Don McAllister from screencastsonline did the following; 1. buy Lion from App store; 2. make a copy from the installer (in your application folder); 3. open up the copy of the installer package, then open the folder Shared Support in it; 4. there you'll find InstallEDG.dmg; 5. copy this file to an USB-stick 8 gb. That's all. Arie Arie, He's explained why he can't buy 10.7 at the moment. Unless you're silently implying Tiemo enlist the aid of someone who had purchased it and is willing to share, this is not useful information. There seems to be conflicting information regarding a clean install of 10.7 with some saying they've done it and others saying there's got to be 10.6.8 avaible at one point or another to run the installer. It does not seem likely that Apple will ignore forever those users who need or would simply prefer to be able to purchase physical install media of some sort or another, though. I wonder if it's possible to clone a drive and just install that drive in another machine. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
So how do you download lion from the App store when all you have is Leopard or even Tiger? I do not think (perhaps I am wrong) that the App Store shows up in Leopard. Only Snow Leopard. And are you saying that Lion will install over top of an OS that is NOT Snow Leopard? This seems to contradict what I have been hearing about it, but I cannot test all this as I am already running Snow Leopard and don't want to upgrade to Lion, at least not yet. Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:20 AM, Arie van der Ent wrote: Hi Tiemo, It is not necessary to wait for Lion on a USB-stick. Don McAllister from screencastsonline did the following; 1. buy Lion from App store; 2. make a copy from the installer (in your application folder); 3. open up the copy of the installer package, then open the folder Shared Support in it; 4. there you'll find InstallEDG.dmg; 5. copy this file to an USB-stick 8 gb. That's all. Arie ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: I want to buy Lion
Yes it is. In fact I have done exactly that with the RC1 of Lion. I used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy my internal drive system and all to my Time Machine drive. If I want to run Lion, I reboot holding the option key and select the external drive. Bob On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Warren Samples wrote: It does not seem likely that Apple will ignore forever those users who need or would simply prefer to be able to purchase physical install media of some sort or another, though. I wonder if it's possible to clone a drive and just install that drive in another machine. Best, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
