Re: Your installer is broken
Roger, Make a backup of 6.7 first just in case. I doubt that it would remove 6.7 (RR and LC never delete older versions from your machine when installing - I've still got every version right back to 5.5) but keep one safe anyway. And make backups of your projects while you're at it. All the best Sean Cole On 28 December 2014 at 15:12, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: I launched 6.7 and the updater offered to install 7.0.1 for OS X. I allowed it to download, but then the wording on screen scared me. It said this will replace your current installation of 6.7, so I bailed. ~Roger On Dec 28, 2014 3:17 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On Windows the installer will create a folder inside the location you select, so that's why you saw two LiveCode folders (the one you made and the one the installer made.) Also, all file paths use forward slashes in LiveCode so that's why those were there. I'm not sure why you'd get the first installation failure. I can only guess that the OS was doing some housekeeping on the download when the installer was supposed to launch. After a brief delay it was ready. It's normal to see the contents of a folder when you choose it in the file selector. You should be able to just choose the one that is currently selected and install there, regardless of what you see in the content area. On December 26, 2014 5:53:16 PM CST, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: While I was using LiveCode, I was informed of a 7.0.1 update. The text box showed the following text: Stable: The release has been through a full testing cycle and is deemed stable. Maintenance: The release is the previous stable release with fixes ready for testing. Beta: The release contains new features which are complete and ready for testing. Development: The release contains untested new features. My initial reaction was, So, which is it? It was a moment before I realized I was looking at the end of a long update description, and had to scroll all the way back to the top to find out that it's a stable release. The text box really ought to positioned at the beginning, not the end. That's just a very minor issue. But then... I closed LiveCode and selected Update Now, and it began to download rather slowly. When it was done, it said Installation Failed, with the explanation, Could not launch downloaded installer: not opened. I clicked Retry, and it switched to Ready to Install, saying that it will Install LiveCode to: C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 6.6.3 etc. First of all, if it downloaded the installer, why did it say that it had failed? Second of all, why is it offering to install it in the LiveCode Community 6.6.3 folder, when it's LiveCode 7.0.1? (And third, why is it using forward slashes on Windows?) Rather than click Install, I clicked Back. Rather than go back, it went to Select Installation Type, so I clicked Custom and Continue, and it switched to Customize. I clicked the magnifying glass icon next to the installation folder name (still 6.6.3), and it popped up Libraries\Documents. That's not a valid place to install anything, so I had to navigate to my C: drive and drill down to where I wanted to put it. I tried selecting C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev as the installation directory, and it simply opened that folder, showing me LiveCode Community 6.6.3. Why can't I just put it into C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev? So I created a LiveCode folder under RunRev and selected it, and it went back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode/LiveCode. Why two LiveCode folders? Where did that come from? I clicked the magnifying glass again, deleted the LiveCode folder that I had created, and created a LiveCode Community 7.0.1 folder under RunRev and selected it. It switched back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community. What happened to the 7.0.1? I figured, this is the best I could do so I clicked Continue. It switched to Ready to Install, and said that it would install in C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 7.0.1/LiveCode Community 6.6.3. At this point, I decided to stick with the 6.6.3 installation I've already got. Please let us know when you have a stable release of the installer, because this one barely qualifies as a beta. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode
Re: Your installer is broken
Sean Cole wrote: Roger, Make a backup of 6.7 first just in case. I doubt that it would remove 6.7 (RR and LC never delete older versions from your machine when installing - I've still got every version right back to 5.5) but keep one safe anyway. LiveCode always installs each version into its own folder, so your older versions will remain in place. Perhaps what the installer was referring to is the OS file type association. On Windows this is governed by the Registry, and IIRC is updated with each LC install. On Mac it's governed by voodoo using unknowable rules in the Finder, so that sometimes it'll use the most recently-installed version of an app but sometimes it'll decide to fixate on one particular version. But that only governs what happens when you double-click a stack in the file manager. As long as you open the version you want to work with and then use File-Open in the IDE you'll always have complete control over which version you're using. And make backups of your projects while you're at it. Excellent advice for all data made with all applications. Hard drives fail, file systems get corrupted, systems get hacked, and then there are fires, floods, earthquakes, etc. Merde happens. At a minimum everyone should have at least three copies of any data they consider non-disposable, with one of those copies rotated off-site. Here I maintain 5 copies of everything. Storage is cheap, and time is precious. Worth taking 5 minutes to read up on rsync to quickly back up folders: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-rsync-to-sync-local-and-remote-directories-on-a-vps Like many good programs rsync has a lot of options, but for simple one-way syncing the -av flags are usually sufficient when working with local volumes: rsync -av /volume/sourcefolder/ /backup/destfolder/ Across networks it's helpful to add -z for compression: rsync -avz /volume/sourcefolder/ user@domain:/backup/destfolder/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Your installer is broken
On Windows the installer will create a folder inside the location you select, so that's why you saw two LiveCode folders (the one you made and the one the installer made.) Also, all file paths use forward slashes in LiveCode so that's why those were there. I'm not sure why you'd get the first installation failure. I can only guess that the OS was doing some housekeeping on the download when the installer was supposed to launch. After a brief delay it was ready. It's normal to see the contents of a folder when you choose it in the file selector. You should be able to just choose the one that is currently selected and install there, regardless of what you see in the content area. On December 26, 2014 5:53:16 PM CST, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: While I was using LiveCode, I was informed of a 7.0.1 update. The text box showed the following text: Stable: The release has been through a full testing cycle and is deemed stable. Maintenance: The release is the previous stable release with fixes ready for testing. Beta: The release contains new features which are complete and ready for testing. Development: The release contains untested new features. My initial reaction was, So, which is it? It was a moment before I realized I was looking at the end of a long update description, and had to scroll all the way back to the top to find out that it's a stable release. The text box really ought to positioned at the beginning, not the end. That's just a very minor issue. But then... I closed LiveCode and selected Update Now, and it began to download rather slowly. When it was done, it said Installation Failed, with the explanation, Could not launch downloaded installer: not opened. I clicked Retry, and it switched to Ready to Install, saying that it will Install LiveCode to: C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 6.6.3 etc. First of all, if it downloaded the installer, why did it say that it had failed? Second of all, why is it offering to install it in the LiveCode Community 6.6.3 folder, when it's LiveCode 7.0.1? (And third, why is it using forward slashes on Windows?) Rather than click Install, I clicked Back. Rather than go back, it went to Select Installation Type, so I clicked Custom and Continue, and it switched to Customize. I clicked the magnifying glass icon next to the installation folder name (still 6.6.3), and it popped up Libraries\Documents. That's not a valid place to install anything, so I had to navigate to my C: drive and drill down to where I wanted to put it. I tried selecting C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev as the installation directory, and it simply opened that folder, showing me LiveCode Community 6.6.3. Why can't I just put it into C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev? So I created a LiveCode folder under RunRev and selected it, and it went back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode/LiveCode. Why two LiveCode folders? Where did that come from? I clicked the magnifying glass again, deleted the LiveCode folder that I had created, and created a LiveCode Community 7.0.1 folder under RunRev and selected it. It switched back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community. What happened to the 7.0.1? I figured, this is the best I could do so I clicked Continue. It switched to Ready to Install, and said that it would install in C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 7.0.1/LiveCode Community 6.6.3. At this point, I decided to stick with the 6.6.3 installation I've already got. Please let us know when you have a stable release of the installer, because this one barely qualifies as a beta. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Your installer is broken
I launched 6.7 and the updater offered to install 7.0.1 for OS X. I allowed it to download, but then the wording on screen scared me. It said this will replace your current installation of 6.7, so I bailed. ~Roger On Dec 28, 2014 3:17 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On Windows the installer will create a folder inside the location you select, so that's why you saw two LiveCode folders (the one you made and the one the installer made.) Also, all file paths use forward slashes in LiveCode so that's why those were there. I'm not sure why you'd get the first installation failure. I can only guess that the OS was doing some housekeeping on the download when the installer was supposed to launch. After a brief delay it was ready. It's normal to see the contents of a folder when you choose it in the file selector. You should be able to just choose the one that is currently selected and install there, regardless of what you see in the content area. On December 26, 2014 5:53:16 PM CST, Paul D. DeRocco pdero...@ix.netcom.com wrote: While I was using LiveCode, I was informed of a 7.0.1 update. The text box showed the following text: Stable: The release has been through a full testing cycle and is deemed stable. Maintenance: The release is the previous stable release with fixes ready for testing. Beta: The release contains new features which are complete and ready for testing. Development: The release contains untested new features. My initial reaction was, So, which is it? It was a moment before I realized I was looking at the end of a long update description, and had to scroll all the way back to the top to find out that it's a stable release. The text box really ought to positioned at the beginning, not the end. That's just a very minor issue. But then... I closed LiveCode and selected Update Now, and it began to download rather slowly. When it was done, it said Installation Failed, with the explanation, Could not launch downloaded installer: not opened. I clicked Retry, and it switched to Ready to Install, saying that it will Install LiveCode to: C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 6.6.3 etc. First of all, if it downloaded the installer, why did it say that it had failed? Second of all, why is it offering to install it in the LiveCode Community 6.6.3 folder, when it's LiveCode 7.0.1? (And third, why is it using forward slashes on Windows?) Rather than click Install, I clicked Back. Rather than go back, it went to Select Installation Type, so I clicked Custom and Continue, and it switched to Customize. I clicked the magnifying glass icon next to the installation folder name (still 6.6.3), and it popped up Libraries\Documents. That's not a valid place to install anything, so I had to navigate to my C: drive and drill down to where I wanted to put it. I tried selecting C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev as the installation directory, and it simply opened that folder, showing me LiveCode Community 6.6.3. Why can't I just put it into C:\Program Files (x86)\RunRev? So I created a LiveCode folder under RunRev and selected it, and it went back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode/LiveCode. Why two LiveCode folders? Where did that come from? I clicked the magnifying glass again, deleted the LiveCode folder that I had created, and created a LiveCode Community 7.0.1 folder under RunRev and selected it. It switched back to Customize, showing C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community. What happened to the 7.0.1? I figured, this is the best I could do so I clicked Continue. It switched to Ready to Install, and said that it would install in C:/Program Files (x86)/RunRev/LiveCode Community 7.0.1/LiveCode Community 6.6.3. At this point, I decided to stick with the 6.6.3 installation I've already got. Please let us know when you have a stable release of the installer, because this one barely qualifies as a beta. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
