Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2012-03-06 Thread Ben Rubinstein
This was a request at the end of last year, to which there weren't any great 
answers.


Now there is!  Reflection reflectionapp.com can act as an AirPlay receiver, 
displaying the result on your Mac desktop.  So you can mirror from your device 
to the Mac, then you can make a screen recording of that.


Only works with late model iPhones and iPads running iOS 5.

I've been playing with it this morning, it works great.

Ben

On 21/12/2011 17:56, William de Smet wrote:

Hi there,

I want to make a screen recording of my new iPad app.
How do you people do this?
There are no iPad screen recording apps yet. Are there?

For now I started to use the iPad simulator and use Quicktime to make a
screenrecording (OSX Lion).
This gives a fairly good .mov file but the sound is terrible because it
uses the internal mic of my iMac.
I use iMovie to do the editing.

Any ideas and advice is welcome.

greetings,

William


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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Holgate
Unfortunately he only takes PayPal, which I don't like to use, and there isn't 
the usual option of paying via PayPal with a credit card, you have to log in 
with a PayPal account.


On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:

 Now there is!  Reflection reflectionapp.com can act as an AirPlay receiver, 
 displaying the result on your Mac desktop.  So you can mirror from your 
 device to the Mac, then you can make a screen recording of that.

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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Holgate
It does allow 10 minutes of use in the demo mode, which for what I need right 
now is fine! Have you found a way for it to show an iPad at 100%? the image is 
more like 852x639. It's also somewhat poor quality video when there is a lot 
going on.
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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2012-03-06 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 06/03/2012 14:22, Colin Holgate wrote:

Unfortunately he only takes PayPal, which I don't like to use, and there
isn't the usual option of paying via PayPal with a credit card


Yes I feel the same way - I wimped out and got one of my colleagues to buy the 
license for me!


On 06/03/2012 14:33, Colin Holgate wrote:

It does allow 10 minutes of use in the demo mode, which for what I need right 
now is fine! Have you found a way for it to show an iPad at 100%? the image is 
more like 852x639. It's also somewhat poor quality video when there is a lot 
going on.


I think part of the answer may be to get a really large monitor! (Or force 
orientation to landscape.) You can switch off the 'frame'; and you can adjust 
the size of the window (invisible grow box in the corner) - however that lets 
you get bigger than true size.  On a 1920 x 1200 monitor, I can get the iPad 
screen at 864 x 1157; presumably if I fiddled around enough I could get it 
just right.


There is a 'zoom' menu item, which seems to be like the green + button: 
toggle between maximum visible size and whatever the size was before; I 
suggest that's options for exact sizes would a good feature request (along 
with a paypal alternative).


The missing element for me is displaying touches, which I think it would be 
unreasonable to ask for - I don't suppose it's in the AirPlay stream.  I've 
been experimenting with sending touch info over the network to another 
LiveCode app on the Mac, that can then use a tiny 'system window' stack to 
show where the touch is.  Sort of worked but (a) NO SOCKET SUPPORT ON IOS so I 
hacked it with HTTP, very inefficient and (b) my app crashes if I touch it a 
lot...


Ben

... hoping socket support on mobile is addressed soon

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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2012-03-06 Thread Colin Holgate
It turns out you can resize the window by dragging the corner, even if the 
frame is hidden. Haven't found an easy way to set it to be 1024x768.
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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-22 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 21/12/2011 17:56, William de Smet wrote:

I want to make a screen recording of my new iPad app.
How do you people do this?
There are no iPad screen recording apps yet. Are there?


Screenflow does an excellent job of recording from the Mac screen, and can 
record internal or external audio at the same time.  So if your app produces 
reasonable quality audio through the simulator, this should be a very clean 
capture.


If you can't work with the simulator, I think there is a theoretical route to 
a 'perfect' capture: if you have an iPad2 (I think, or perhaps iPad1) running 
iOS 5, then you can use AirPlay to send both image and sound to an AppleTV 
unit.  Unfortunately the AppleTV only outputs HDMI: there are HDMI digitisers 
but they are quite expensive.  AFAIK there is no current way to receive 
AirPlay video on anything other than an AppleTV unit.


Ben

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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-22 Thread Todd Geist
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote:

 If you can't work with the simulator, I think there is a theoretical route
 to a 'perfect' capture: if you have an iPad2 (I think, or perhaps iPad1)
 running iOS 5, then you can use AirPlay to send both image and sound to an
 AppleTV unit.  Unfortunately the AppleTV only outputs HDMI: there are HDMI
 digitisers but they are quite expensive.  AFAIK there is no current way to
 receive AirPlay video on anything other than an AppleTV unit.


Airplay/AppleTV doesn't get you much in this area.  You still need a way to
capture the HDMI coming off the AppleTV.  AppleTV is nothing more than an
expensive invisible HDMI cable.  You are still going to need something that
can capture HMDI video. This is something that is not built into any mac or
pc that I know about.  You are going to need some hardware.

Todd
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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-22 Thread Todd Geist
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 You could try this

 http://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/scandock-2703


The problem with any of these overhead solutions is that it is really hard
to get the lighting right. In fact it is darn near impossible.

Todd
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RE: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-22 Thread Mark Powell
 The problem with any of these overhead solutions is that 
 it is really hard to get the lighting right. In fact it 
 is darn near impossible.
 Todd

Certainly very difficult but not impossible.  See the 'Touching the iPad' 
module here

http://www.lynda.com/iPad-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/68383-2.html 

In my book, Lynda.com is the standard for setting up online training 
environments.  How they capture iPad demos with full practical gestures is 
flawless to the point of myth.

Mark



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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-22 Thread Chipp Walters
Here's a decent way of getting diffuse lighting, though you can't tap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4pF1lW2-7w

There are other iPhone copy stands with built in diffusers as well.
http://obamapacman.com/2011/12/iphone-copy-stand-modahaus-steady-stand/

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Mark Powell mark_pow...@symantec.comwrote:

  The problem with any of these overhead solutions is that
  it is really hard to get the lighting right. In fact it
  is darn near impossible.
  Todd

 Certainly very difficult but not impossible.  See the 'Touching the iPad'
 module here

 http://www.lynda.com/iPad-tutorials/tips-and-tricks/68383-2.html

 In my book, Lynda.com is the standard for setting up online training
 environments.  How they capture iPad demos with full practical gestures is
 flawless to the point of myth.

 Mark



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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-21 Thread stephen barncard
you might use a tripod and a video camera. Shooting the screen isn't too
bad if the camera and subject are steady.
The audio could be direct if it's first turned down in level - video
cameras are usually  mic level in and would probably sound better with a
close up mic

I've used this technique as a way to report bugs in software that involve
two screens - that can't be screen-recorded properly.

On 21 December 2011 09:56, William de Smet williamdes...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 I want to make a screen recording of my new iPad app.
 How do you people do this?
 There are no iPad screen recording apps yet. Are there?

 For now I started to use the iPad simulator and use Quicktime to make a
 screenrecording (OSX Lion).
 This gives a fairly good .mov file but the sound is terrible because it
 uses the internal mic of my iMac.
 I use iMovie to do the editing.

 Any ideas and advice is welcome.

 greetings,

 William
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RE: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-21 Thread Mark Powell
Hi William:

I have to set up an external video camera to do recordings of iPad. Works 
decently, but a lot of overhead.

Would be very interested if there is an application that can render the 
gestures (i.e. shows virtual hand and finger gestures).  That would be a 
*great* app to have for anyone who needs to train on how to run an iPad.  It 
would also need to somehow render the iPad bezel (home button, orientation 
lock, et.al.).  If anyone wants to develop such a thing, you will definitely 
have at least one customer!

Mark


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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-21 Thread Todd Geist
Hello,

I spent a tremendous amount of time researching this. It turns out there is
NOT an app for that :-)

I did finally come up with a setup that works but it is not cheap, not is
it perfect. I can capture the iPad screen but it doesn't show finger
touches like you see with the simulator.

First you need some hardware that can capture HDMI. I chose this.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REGsku=618348Q=O=A=details

Then you need Some Software to capture the incoming HDMI. Apple has an
Xcode sample project called WhackedTV, that can do it.  But I use
ScreenFlow 3.  ScreenFlow is what I normally capture screen casts with. The
iPad shows up as one of the video sources you can capture when you
configure the recording.

Then in post processing I add the iPad Frame around the video.

If you want to see the results you can check out the video

http://www.geistinteractive.com/gosign/overview/

Its a lot of work. But as far as I know its the only way to capture and
record the iPad screen.

Todd

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Re: iPad screenrecording: how?

2011-12-21 Thread Chipp Walters
You could try this

http://www.ponoko.com/design-your-own/products/scandock-2703

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CEO, Altuit, Inc.
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