Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-25 Thread Alan
Hi Björnke

Thanks for the detailed reply and yes, I guess I shouldn't run BVG docu with 8! 
Almost for sure I have an old version in any case. Strangely, there must have 
been some interaction as when it was the only plugin then the error occurred. 
Of course, it's also possible that I'm doing something strange...

Thanks again for the reply!

cheers

Alan

On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:16 am, Björnke von Gierke <m...@bjoernke.com> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I highly doubt that bvg docu 2 is part of the problem you're having: It has 
> nothing in the message path, nothing at all. 
> 
> If you're trying to run the older version, that one had a thing that would 
> try to catch a message emited by an older version of the script window. 
> however, said message was discontinued in... dunnow 5.5 or so. Still, even 
> that version would not act on mousedown or somesuch, but instead on the 
> message emitted by the IDE stack, and is by default disabled, so even that 
> would be highly unlikely. Again, this code does not even exist in bvg docu 2.
> 
> in fact, i made a stack with this script and it beeped as expected, while bvg 
> docu 2 was open (both before and after interacting with the drop down 
> dialogue that seems to confuse the IDE slightly (LC 8.0.1Mac OS X 10.11.5):
> 
> on mouseDoubleUp
>  beep
> end mouseDoubleUp
> 
> note that bvg docu (1 or 2) does not work with the lc8 dictionary anyway, so 
> running it in 8 serves no purpose. It's best not to let it run there, by 
> going to Development -> Plugins -> Plugin Settings, and there make it to not 
> open together with the IDE. 
> 
> If you use BvG Docu on older LC versions, and are often switching between 8 
> and other versions, I suggest to change the openstack script to not run on 8 
> or higher:
> 
> on openStack
>  if the version < "8.0.0" then
>--ui stuff
>--all the existing script in the openstack handler
>  end if
> end openStack
> 
> 
> Note that I am not subscribed to Use anymore, so I assume you need to copy 
> this there to continue the discussion.
> 
> cheers
> Björnke
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 12:39, Alan <alanstenho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Seems to be a problem with BVG Docu. Perhaps someone else can confirm?
>> 
>> Unfortunately it doesn't complete initialisation on my system and I also 
>> can't use it's prefs so perhaps that contributes to the issue...?
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 7:30 pm, <use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> 
>> <use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:38:33 -0700
>>> From: Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com>
>>> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>> Subject: Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8
>>> Message-ID: <576d37d9.5000...@fourthworld.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> I have the same problem with LC8 so thanks for letting us know. If I
>>>> work out which plugin I'll file a bug report.
>>> 
>>> If you find an issue with a third-party plugin please report it to the 
>>> author.
>>> 
>>> If it's one of mine I may never see it if it's in someone else's bug DB, 
>>> and I'd like to know about it so I can post an update ASAP.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Richard Gaskin
>>> Fourth World Systems
>>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>>> 
>>> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
>> 
> 


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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-25 Thread Richard Gaskin

Alan wrote:
> Seems to be a problem with BVG Docu. Perhaps someone else can confirm?
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't complete initialisation on my system and I
> also can't use it's prefs so perhaps that contributes to the issue...?

In all fairness, Björnke replied off-list noting that BVG Docu doesn't 
affect the message path, so it seems that's an unlikely candidate.


One way to narrow this down relatively quickly would be to remove half 
your plugins and restart LC, repeating until you're down to one.


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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-25 Thread Alan
Seems to be a problem with BVG Docu. Perhaps someone else can confirm?

Unfortunately it doesn't complete initialisation on my system and I also can't 
use it's prefs so perhaps that contributes to the issue...?

cheers

Alan

On 25 Jun 2016, at 7:30 pm, <use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> 
<use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 06:38:33 -0700
> From: Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com>
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8
> Message-ID: <576d37d9.5000...@fourthworld.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Alan wrote:
>> I have the same problem with LC8 so thanks for letting us know. If I
>> work out which plugin I'll file a bug report.
> 
> If you find an issue with a third-party plugin please report it to the 
> author.
> 
> If it's one of mine I may never see it if it's in someone else's bug DB, 
> and I'd like to know about it so I can post an update ASAP.
> 
> -- 
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>  
>  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-24 Thread Richard Gaskin

Alan wrote:
> I have the same problem with LC8 so thanks for letting us know. If I
> work out which plugin I'll file a bug report.

If you find an issue with a third-party plugin please report it to the 
author.


If it's one of mine I may never see it if it's in someone else's bug DB, 
and I'd like to know about it so I can post an update ASAP.


--
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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com


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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-24 Thread Alan
I have the same problem with LC8 so thanks for letting us know. If I work out 
which plugin I'll file a bug report.

cheers

Alan

On 24 Jun 2016, at 7:30 pm, <use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> 
<use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:46:16 -0400
> From: mac...@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8
> 
> 
> Although I?m not sure,of the exact culprit, I solved the issue by removing 
> all plug-ins. I?ll have to find some time one day to go through them all to 
> determine the offender, but in the meantime I can actually use LC8 now! Happy 
> Days :)


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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham

On 2016-06-23 18:46, mac...@earthlink.net wrote:

Although I’m not sure,of the exact culprit, I solved the issue by
removing all plug-ins. I’ll have to find some time one day to go
through them all to determine the offender, but in the meantime I can
actually use LC8 now! Happy Days :)


Ah! Glad you found the cause.

It sounds like one of the plugins you have is not playing nicely with 
LC8 (or LC8 is not playing nicely with it!). If you have time to go 
through and find out which one is causing the problem at some point - 
that would be great - we can then determine if it is the plugin, or the 
IDE which is at fault!


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-23 Thread MacBox
Although I’m not sure,of the exact culprit, I solved the issue by removing all 
plug-ins. I’ll have to find some time one day to go through them all to 
determine the offender, but in the meantime I can actually use LC8 now! Happy 
Days :)



> On Jun 23, 2016, at 12:01, mac...@earthlink.net wrote:
> 
> Apologies, Mark, I apparently managed to leave out a critical piece of info; 
> this is in Edit, not Run-mode.
> 
> To be clear, double-clicking a control in Edit-mode does not open the 
> Property Inspector, and Right-Clicking does not display the PopUp menu to 
> Edit Script, show the Property Inspector, etc.
> 
> Additionally holding option-command and double-clicking does not open the 
> script editor
> 
> All these do work in older versions, and in LC8 under another user account, 
> so it must be something in my account that’s causing the issue.
> 
> 
>> Apologies, Mark, I apparently managed to leave out a critical piece of info; 
>> this is in Edit, not Run-mode.
>> 
>> To be clear, double-clicking a control in Edit-mode does not open the 
>> Property Inspector, and Right-Clicking does not display the PopUp menu to 
>> Edit Script, show the Property Inspector, etc.
>> 
>> Additionally holding option-command and double-clicking does not open the 
>> script editor
>> 
>> All these do work in older versions, and in LC8 under another user account, 
>> so it must be something in my account that’s causing the issue.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:31, mac...@earthlink.net wrote:
>> 
>>> Double-clicking on a control, and Right-Clicking a control do nothing in 
>>> LiveCode 8 in my user account (this has been true since the first DP 
>>> release). Testing on another account does work, so I tried quitting, 
>>> deleting the Livecode7.rev preference file in my account, and relaunching, 
>>> but that did not solve the issue. What other file(s) do I need to delete?
>>> 
>>> I’m currently using LC 8.0.1 build 13020 under Mac OS 10.9.5
>>> 
>>> TIA!!
>>> I'm not sure that behavior would be affected by the preferences...
>>> 
>>> I just created a stack and a button, and set the button's script to 
>>> this:
>>> 
>>> on mouseDown
>>> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
>>> end mouseDown
>>> 
>>> on mouseDoubleDown
>>> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
>>> end mouseDoubleDown
>>> 
>>> on mouseUp
>>> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
>>> end mouseUp
>>> 
>>> on mouseDoubleUp
>>> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
>>> end mouseDoubleUp
>>> 
>>> Switched to browser mode and the output of the message box when clicking 
>>> or double-clicking either the left or right button seem fine.
>>> 
>>> The engine allows to configure the 'double click interval' (the maximum 
>>> time between two clicks for it to register as a double-click) and the 
>>> 'double click delta' (the maximum distance from the first click the 
>>> mouse can move for a double-click to still register). The double click 
>>> interval is controlled by 'the doubleClickInterval' global property, and 
>>> the double click delta is controlled by 'the doubleClickDelta' global 
>>> property. The doubleClickInterval is initialized from the system default 
>>> when the engine starts up; the doubleClickDelta is by default 4 pixels.
>>> 
>>> Try doing 'put the doubleClickDelta' and 'put the doubleClickInterval' 
>>> in the message box on the user account which is broken (in this regard) 
>>> and the one that is not.
>>> 
>>> Also, whether or not the mouse recognises clicking on the right side as 
>>> a right click, there is an option in Mouse System Preferences which 
>>> allows you to configure what the 'secondary' click is. If you turn off 
>>> 'secondary click', then you have to use Ctrl-Click to get a Right-Click 
>>> - this setting is per user account so it might be worth checking that 
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> Warmest Regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mark Waddingham ~ mark at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
>>> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps
>> 
> 
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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-23 Thread MacBox
Apologies, Mark, I apparently managed to leave out a critical piece of info; 
this is in Edit, not Run-mode.

To be clear, double-clicking a control in Edit-mode does not open the Property 
Inspector, and Right-Clicking does not display the PopUp menu to Edit Script, 
show the Property Inspector, etc.

Additionally holding option-command and double-clicking does not open the 
script editor

All these do work in older versions, and in LC8 under another user account, so 
it must be something in my account that’s causing the issue.


On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:31, mac...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Double-clicking on a control, and Right-Clicking a control do nothing in 
> LiveCode 8 in my user account (this has been true since the first DP 
> release). Testing on another account does work, so I tried quitting, deleting 
> the Livecode7.rev preference file in my account, and relaunching, but that 
> did not solve the issue. What other file(s) do I need to delete?
> 
> I’m currently using LC 8.0.1 build 13020 under Mac OS 10.9.5
> 
> TIA!!
> I'm not sure that behavior would be affected by the preferences...
> 
> I just created a stack and a button, and set the button's script to 
> this:
> 
> on mouseDown
> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
> end mouseDown
> 
> on mouseDoubleDown
> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
> end mouseDoubleDown
> 
> on mouseUp
> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
> end mouseUp
> 
> on mouseDoubleUp
> put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
> end mouseDoubleUp
> 
> Switched to browser mode and the output of the message box when clicking 
> or double-clicking either the left or right button seem fine.
> 
> The engine allows to configure the 'double click interval' (the maximum 
> time between two clicks for it to register as a double-click) and the 
> 'double click delta' (the maximum distance from the first click the 
> mouse can move for a double-click to still register). The double click 
> interval is controlled by 'the doubleClickInterval' global property, and 
> the double click delta is controlled by 'the doubleClickDelta' global 
> property. The doubleClickInterval is initialized from the system default 
> when the engine starts up; the doubleClickDelta is by default 4 pixels.
> 
> Try doing 'put the doubleClickDelta' and 'put the doubleClickInterval' 
> in the message box on the user account which is broken (in this regard) 
> and the one that is not.
> 
> Also, whether or not the mouse recognises clicking on the right side as 
> a right click, there is an option in Mouse System Preferences which 
> allows you to configure what the 'secondary' click is. If you turn off 
> 'secondary click', then you have to use Ctrl-Click to get a Right-Click 
> - this setting is per user account so it might be worth checking that 
> too.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Waddingham ~ mark at livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
> LiveCode: Everyone can create apps

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Re: Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-23 Thread Mark Waddingham

On 2016-06-23 17:31, mac...@earthlink.net wrote:

Double-clicking on a control, and Right-Clicking a control do nothing
in LiveCode 8 in my user account (this has been true since the first
DP release). Testing on another account does work, so I tried
quitting, deleting the Livecode7.rev preference file in my account,
and relaunching, but that did not solve the issue. What other file(s)
do I need to delete?


I'm not sure that behavior would be affected by the preferences...

I just created a stack and a button, and set the button's script to 
this:


on mouseDown
   put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
end mouseDown

on mouseDoubleDown
   put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
end mouseDoubleDown

on mouseUp
   put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
end mouseUp

on mouseDoubleUp
   put the millisecs && the params & return before msg
end mouseDoubleUp

Switched to browser mode and the output of the message box when clicking 
or double-clicking either the left or right button seem fine.


The engine allows to configure the 'double click interval' (the maximum 
time between two clicks for it to register as a double-click) and the 
'double click delta' (the maximum distance from the first click the 
mouse can move for a double-click to still register). The double click 
interval is controlled by 'the doubleClickInterval' global property, and 
the double click delta is controlled by 'the doubleClickDelta' global 
property. The doubleClickInterval is initialized from the system default 
when the engine starts up; the doubleClickDelta is by default 4 pixels.


Try doing 'put the doubleClickDelta' and 'put the doubleClickInterval' 
in the message box on the user account which is broken (in this regard) 
and the one that is not.


Also, whether or not the mouse recognises clicking on the right side as 
a right click, there is an option in Mouse System Preferences which 
allows you to configure what the 'secondary' click is. If you turn off 
'secondary click', then you have to use Ctrl-Click to get a Right-Click 
- this setting is per user account so it might be worth checking that 
too.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Right-Clicks and Double-Clicks don't work in LC8

2016-06-23 Thread MacBox
Double-clicking on a control, and Right-Clicking a control do nothing in 
LiveCode 8 in my user account (this has been true since the first DP release). 
Testing on another account does work, so I tried quitting, deleting the 
Livecode7.rev preference file in my account, and relaunching, but that did not 
solve the issue. What other file(s) do I need to delete?

I’m currently using LC 8.0.1 build 13020 under Mac OS 10.9.5

TIA!!
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