Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Gregory Lypny]

Thanks, Peter, Mark, Richard, and all for your good suggestions regarding 
Apache on Yosemite.

Gregory

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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[François Chaplais]

in addition, if you add virtualhost to MAMP ( 
http://clickontyler.com/virtualhostx/ , currently on saleand well worth the 
price) you can deploy your site/web app/etc.. on your LAN and test various 
configuration (PC/Mac/Linux/iPhone/iPad/various androids etc …) I use it to 
test my site on mobile devices.
François
Le 19 nov. 2014 à 17:53, Mark Talluto  a écrit :

> On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
>> Well isn’t that special?  Good thing I am not currently using Apache 
>> for anything… am I??...
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:41 , Richard Gaskin 
>> mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open ports) the 
>> security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple ships with an 
>> outdated version of Apache which has known security issues, so you'll need 
>> to manually update it for anything exposed to the Internet:
> 
> It is important to note that MAMP (Free, http://www.mamp.info/en/) and MAMP 
> Pro (worth the $59 price if you want to go public with this setup) updates 
> the latest versions of Apache and all the common modules one might use with 
> Apache.  It is super easy to setup.  The ROI on this tool might be considered 
> a no brainer for certain situations.
> 
> A linux box is another way to go now that we have 64 bit Linux support in LC 
> 7. If you are running LC on the server side for any reason, this is also a 
> compelling scenario.
> 
> If you are scaling your setup to *many* server boxes, the Linux route will be 
> financially beneficial. If you are running a smaller quantity of servers on 
> Macs, MAMP’s GUI makes setup a breeze. Choice options are always welcome.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Talluto
> livecloud.io
> canelasoftware.com
> 
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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Mark Talluto]

On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> Well isn’t that special?  Good thing I am not currently using Apache 
> for anything… am I??...
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:41 , Richard Gaskin 
> mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote:
> 
> If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open ports) the 
> security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple ships with an outdated 
> version of Apache which has known security issues, so you'll need to manually 
> update it for anything exposed to the Internet:

It is important to note that MAMP (Free, http://www.mamp.info/en/) and MAMP Pro 
(worth the $59 price if you want to go public with this setup) updates the 
latest versions of Apache and all the common modules one might use with Apache. 
 It is super easy to setup.  The ROI on this tool might be considered a no 
brainer for certain situations.

A linux box is another way to go now that we have 64 bit Linux support in LC 7. 
If you are running LC on the server side for any reason, this is also a 
compelling scenario.

If you are scaling your setup to *many* server boxes, the Linux route will be 
financially beneficial. If you are running a smaller quantity of servers on 
Macs, MAMP’s GUI makes setup a breeze. Choice options are always welcome.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com

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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Richard Gaskin]

Gregory Lypny wrote:

> Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> According to this blog the upgrade should allow you to use your old
>> config, but it will replace it with a new one - this includes
>> instructions on finding and restoring the old config:
>> 
>>
>> If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open
>> ports) the security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple
>> ships with an outdated version of Apache which has known security
>> issues, so you'll need to manually update it for anything exposed
>> to the Internet:
>>
>> 
>
> Much obliged, Richard.

Happy to help where I can, but my post mistakenly linked to info on 
Mavericks, not Yosemite - I'd go with Peter Wood's advice on this:



Refreshing as it is to see Apple finally update the Apache version that 
ships with OS X after years of being out of date, if this is a public 
server it may be helpful to install the HomeBrew package manager for OS 
X to stay current with other key elements of a sever system:



Apparently the patent clause in GPL 3 has prompted Apple Legal to 
restrict what Apple Engineering can include in the OS, so that many 
common packages (one of my faves being rsync) are now years out of date, 
not only missing out on performance enhancements and features but 
sometimes critical security patches as well:



In addition to HomeBrew, there's also MacPorts, Fink, and other projects 
that can help keep OS X current:



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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Bob Sneidar]

Well isn’t that special?  Good thing I am not currently using Apache for 
anything… am I??...

Bob S


On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:41 , Richard Gaskin 
mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote:

If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open ports) the 
security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple ships with an outdated 
version of Apache which has known security issues, so you'll need to manually 
update it for anything exposed to the Internet:

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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Peter W A Wood]

Hello Gregory

I had to modify my httpd.conf file when I moved from Mavericks to Yosemite 
because, if I remember correctly, Apple upgraded Apache from version 2.2 to 
2.4. The httpd syntax is a little different in the newer Apache.

These are the LiveCode Server entries from my Yosemite httpd.conf file:


ScriptAlias /livecode-cgi/ "/LiveCodeServer/"


/LiveCodeServer/">
Options +ExecCGI



AddHandler lcscript .lc
Action lcscript /livecode-cgi/livecode-server


Where  should be the full file path to the directory in which the 
LiveCodeServer is installed.

Hope this helps.

Peter

> On 19 Nov 2014, at 03:14, Gregory Lypny  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I have been happily running LiveCode server under Mavericks and am soon going 
> to upgrade to Yosemite. Can I continue to use the same modified httpd.conf 
> file that worked under Mavericks?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gregory
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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Gregory Lypny]

Much obliged, Richard.

Gregory


> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014, at 4:01 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
> 
> Gregory Lypny wrote:
>> I have been happily running LiveCode server under Mavericks and am
>> soon going to upgrade to Yosemite. Can I continue to use the same
>> modified httpd.conf file that worked under Mavericks?
> 
> According to this blog the upgrade should allow you to use your old 
> config, but it will replace it with a new one - this includes 
> instructions on finding and restoring the old config:
>  >
> 
> If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open ports) 
> the security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple ships with an 
> outdated version of Apache which has known security issues, so you'll 
> need to manually update it for anything exposed to the Internet:
> 
>  >

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Re: Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Richard Gaskin]

Gregory Lypny wrote:
> I have been happily running LiveCode server under Mavericks and am
> soon going to upgrade to Yosemite. Can I continue to use the same
> modified httpd.conf file that worked under Mavericks?

According to this blog the upgrade should allow you to use your old 
config, but it will replace it with a new one - this includes 
instructions on finding and restoring the old config:



If this is for personal use for testing (local host only, no open ports) 
the security aspects probably don't matter much, but Apple ships with an 
outdated version of Apache which has known security issues, so you'll 
need to manually update it for anything exposed to the Internet:





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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Running Apache Under Yosemite

[Gregory Lypny]

Hello everyone,

I have been happily running LiveCode server under Mavericks and am soon going 
to upgrade to Yosemite. Can I continue to use the same modified httpd.conf file 
that worked under Mavericks?

Regards,

Gregory
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