Re: Starter Plan offer - China users

2021-09-28 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Somehow I doubt that the process will be so crude that (e.g. Livecode.com
DNS resolution fails) all standalones built with the Starter Plan would
stop working.  I'd imagine that the check for validity would happen for
several days/weeks before an app stopped working. It surely isn't in LC
Ltd's interest to implement this in a crude fashion.

My experience in Asia 20 years ago was that no-one paid for software. There
were huge computing shopping malls where DVDs of pirated products from
Microsoft, Adobe, etc. could be bought for $3 per DVD (often the same DVD
would contain multiple applications that we'd be paying $1000s for).

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 12:41 PM Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> To be honest, if “always being able to launch standalone” is a concern for
> the developer, then they shouldn’t be using the Starter Plan.
>
> In my understanding the Starter Plan is a personal experience, it is
> available so that one can learn programming and use it to build their own
> tools. If someone wants to ship software, they should be using Standard
> Plan or above.
>
>
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Re: Starter Plan offer - China users

2021-09-28 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
To be honest, if “always being able to launch standalone” is a concern for the 
developer, then they shouldn’t be using the Starter Plan. 

In my understanding the Starter Plan is a personal experience, it is available 
so that one can learn programming and use it to build their own tools. If 
someone wants to ship software, they should be using Standard Plan or above.

> On 27 Sep 2021, at 19:54, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> What happens if the user is on an airplane and wants to use the app?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 2:26 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> The starter plan for LiveCode is described:
>> 
>> "On the Starter plan, if you cancel your subscription your apps will also
>> stop working. If you need to build apps that work forever, you need the
>> Standard plan.”
>> 
>> This seems to imply that Starter plan apps “phone home” to LiveCode when
>> they open to check the status of the developer’s subscription.
>> 
>> A heads up for anyone contemplating the use of this plan for app users in
>> China—the Great Firewall is very blocking these days. If the “phone call”
>> connection is required, the application may not open dependably.
>> 
>> I have experience with Internet blocking issues in China. It’s an
>> alternate online reality there…
>> 
>> Peter Bogdanoff
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RE: Starter Plan offer - China users

2021-09-27 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
When I do this type of licensing I allow n number of activations without 
phoning home to take this into account. I would hope the LC does the same.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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What happens if the user is on an airplane and wants to use the app?


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 2:26 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode < 
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The starter plan for LiveCode is described:
>
> "On the Starter plan, if you cancel your subscription your apps will 
> also stop working. If you need to build apps that work forever, you 
> need the Standard plan.”
>
> This seems to imply that Starter plan apps “phone home” to LiveCode 
> when they open to check the status of the developer’s subscription.
>
> A heads up for anyone contemplating the use of this plan for app users 
> in China—the Great Firewall is very blocking these days. If the “phone call”
> connection is required, the application may not open dependably.
>
> I have experience with Internet blocking issues in China. It’s an 
> alternate online reality there…
>
> Peter Bogdanoff
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Re: Starter Plan offer - China users

2021-09-27 Thread Glen Bojsza via use-livecode
What happens if the user is on an airplane and wants to use the app?


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 2:26 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The starter plan for LiveCode is described:
>
> "On the Starter plan, if you cancel your subscription your apps will also
> stop working. If you need to build apps that work forever, you need the
> Standard plan.”
>
> This seems to imply that Starter plan apps “phone home” to LiveCode when
> they open to check the status of the developer’s subscription.
>
> A heads up for anyone contemplating the use of this plan for app users in
> China—the Great Firewall is very blocking these days. If the “phone call”
> connection is required, the application may not open dependably.
>
> I have experience with Internet blocking issues in China. It’s an
> alternate online reality there…
>
> Peter Bogdanoff
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Starter Plan offer - China users

2021-09-27 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
The starter plan for LiveCode is described:

"On the Starter plan, if you cancel your subscription your apps will also stop 
working. If you need to build apps that work forever, you need the Standard 
plan.”

This seems to imply that Starter plan apps “phone home” to LiveCode when they 
open to check the status of the developer’s subscription.

A heads up for anyone contemplating the use of this plan for app users in 
China—the Great Firewall is very blocking these days. If the “phone call” 
connection is required, the application may not open dependably.

I have experience with Internet blocking issues in China. It’s an alternate 
online reality there…

Peter Bogdanoff
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