Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-30 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Guys,

Please don't hijack the thread.

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:07 PM Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> This is worth a look:
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236
>
> On 30.03.20 19:54, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> Cmd-E will eject a mounted removable disk. I've never heard of
> Cmd-Shift-1.
> > Newbie :)
> >
> > It seems to have disappeared some time ago.
> >
> > I know that I used it some years ago on a CD, to my surprise.
> >
> > -3 and -4 are still live, but the whole set were very, very low level
> way back when.
> >
> > I bring it up because even thought apparently not implemented any more,
> there might still be some system intercept that catches it under some OSX
> variants.
> >
> >
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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-30 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

This is worth a look:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236

On 30.03.20 19:54, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:

On Mar 30, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Cmd-E will eject a mounted removable disk. I've never heard of Cmd-Shift-1.

Newbie :)

It seems to have disappeared some time ago.

I know that I used it some years ago on a CD, to my surprise.

-3 and -4 are still live, but the whole set were very, very low level way back 
when.

I bring it up because even thought apparently not implemented any more, there 
might still be some system intercept that catches it under some OSX variants.


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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-30 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode


On Mar 30, 2020, at 8:02 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Cmd-E will eject a mounted removable disk. I've never heard of Cmd-Shift-1. 

Newbie :)

It seems to have disappeared some time ago.

I know that I used it some years ago on a CD, to my surprise.

-3 and -4 are still live, but the whole set were very, very low level way back 
when.

I bring it up because even thought apparently not implemented any more, there 
might still be some system intercept that catches it under some OSX variants.


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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-30 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Well, or what it's worth I just tried Cmd_Shift_1 on my Mac Mini and 
nothing happened, so, if it
really "floats yer boat" you should be able to use it as some sort of 
short cut in LiveCode.


On 30.03.20 18:02, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

Cmd-E will eject a mounted removable disk. I've never heard of Cmd-Shift-1.

Bob S



On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:09 , doc hawk via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Isn’t that the key sequence for ejecting the internal floppy, err, first 
removable disk?

It does seem to be removed from recent releases, though (although -3 an -4 
still work, though not quite how they used to . . )

These were in the original release for the 128k . . .

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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Cmd-E will eject a mounted removable disk. I've never heard of Cmd-Shift-1. 

Bob S


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:09 , doc hawk via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t that the key sequence for ejecting the internal floppy, err, first 
> removable disk?
> 
> It does seem to be removed from recent releases, though (although -3 an -4 
> still work, though not quite how they used to . . )
> 
> These were in the original release for the 128k . . .

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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:58 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> This was reported by me and confirmed by LC last year:
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22107
>
> (Shift-Tab is the most problematic example, since it doesn't have a
> convenient shifted char. Menu defs seem glitchy, so we may need to file
> additional reports but hoping this Shift bug gets nailed soon.
> Introduced in LC7 - one of the many still with us over the years.)
>

Thanks for pointing me to that Curry. I've added myself to the CC list as
the two may very well be related.

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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode



This was reported by me and confirmed by LC last year:

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22107

(Shift-Tab is the most problematic example, since it doesn't have a 
convenient shifted char. Menu defs seem glitchy, so we may need to file 
additional reports but hoping this Shift bug gets nailed soon. 
Introduced in LC7 - one of the many still with us over the years.)


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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"Better Methods, Better Results"
LiveCode Training and Consulting
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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 1:28 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Shift-1 = !
>

Right. But using ⌘ + Shift + 1 looks much better in the menu to me than ⌘
!. With ⌘ ! the user has to piece together that they need to add SHIFT to
create the ! character. ⌘ + Shift + 1 tells the user every key to press
just by looking at it.

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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Shift-1 = !

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Re: Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
Isn’t that the key sequence for ejecting the internal floppy, err, first 
removable disk?

It does seem to be removed from recent releases, though (although -3 an -4 
still work, though not quite how they used to . . )

These were in the original release for the 128k . . .
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Using Shift + Cmd + 1 as a menu short in LiveCode

2020-03-25 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi all,

I tried assigning Shift + Cmd + 1 to a menu shortcut in LiveCode but
LiveCode insists on using Cmd + 1 instead. I would like to insist that it
use Shift + Cmd + 1, just as I entered it :-)

Anyone know how to trick LiveCode into using what I entered?

I know Shift + Cmd + 1 can be used as XCode uses this key combination for a
shortcut in the Windows menu. I'm currently testing on macOS 10.14.

Simple Recipe:
1) Create a new stack
2) Open the Menu Builder
3) Create a new menu bar
4) Select File > New and check the Cmd and Shift checkboxes then type 1
into the shortcut field.
5) Test the menu. It shows the following:
File
New ⌘ 1
Open   ⌘ 0
Close   ⌘ W

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