Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

Richard,


May we please consider this topic thoroughly examined, and move on to
LiveCode discussion?


Please accept my apologies for having started this thread.

I didn't realize that it would go so far. My Fault !!

I hoped to save space on the forum and not waste it.

OK You Guys - Cut the crap !

I'm talking about a REVOLUTION ! No pun intended !

Very Best Regards.

-Francis

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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Richard Gaskin]

May be please consider this topic thoroughly examined, and move on to 
LiveCode discussion?


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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Richmond]

On 11/17/2011 04:23 AM, Pete wrote:

Exactly, well said Roger! All this is a matter of personal preference and
there is so much knowledge in so many areas of expertise  on this list that


If I could just shove my oar in here . . .

  I will gladly search through as much quoted text as someone wants to
include if it means I can add another nugget of LC knowledge to my
collection.


Surely, interpolated messages mean that it easy to which parts of 
previous message components the most recent writer is referring to in 
his/her reply?



As to the space issue, I've sometimes had posts rejected because they were
too large, so the list administrator has already set an appropriate space
limit.

Pete
Molly's Revenge



At the end of the day, we sift through it all, we share nuggets of

knowledge, we learn, we make fun, but we still respect our fellow listers
regardless of where they post a response.  It's all good.  I appreciate
everyone on this list, even space wasters.  Oops, there goes a few more
bytes.  :)

˜Roger


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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Pete]

Exactly, well said Roger! All this is a matter of personal preference and
there is so much knowledge in so many areas of expertise  on this list that
 I will gladly search through as much quoted text as someone wants to
include if it means I can add another nugget of LC knowledge to my
collection.

As to the space issue, I've sometimes had posts rejected because they were
too large, so the list administrator has already set an appropriate space
limit.

Pete
Molly's Revenge 



At the end of the day, we sift through it all, we share nuggets of
> knowledge, we learn, we make fun, but we still respect our fellow listers
> regardless of where they post a response.  It's all good.  I appreciate
> everyone on this list, even space wasters.  Oops, there goes a few more
> bytes.  :)
>
> ˜Roger
>
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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Roger Eller]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:

> On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:29 PM, AndyP wrote:
>
>  > Talking about trouble makers.
>
> Dialog on free will:
>
> Q: Are you going to finish reading this dialog?
> A: As a matter of fact, I think I'll read it again.
>
> -- Peter
>
> Peter M. Brigham
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> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>

The thing about trouble-makers is they usually are only reacting to someone
else's preference that something should be done a certain way; a
restriction on free will.  This dialog goes on and on and on, partly in
fun, and partly to say naa-na Na naa-na (with tongue stuck out, and thumbs
in ears, fingers making moose ears).

At the end of the day, we sift through it all, we share nuggets of
knowledge, we learn, we make fun, but we still respect our fellow listers
regardless of where they post a response.  It's all good.  I appreciate
everyone on this list, even space wasters.  Oops, there goes a few more
bytes.  :)

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Peter M. Brigham, MD]

On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:29 PM, AndyP wrote:

> Talking about troble makers.
> 
> Q? Is not this thread wasting forum space?
> 
> Oh darn it, justed wasted some more...


Dialog on free will:

Q: Are you going to finish reading this dialog?
A: As a matter of fact, I think I'll read it again.

-- Peter

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[AndyP]

Talking about troble makers.

Q? Is not this thread wasting forum space?

Oh darn it, justed wasted some more...

-
Andy Piddock


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PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
finder.
http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode (v1.4.1 released 26/08/2011)


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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Richmond]

On 11/16/2011 03:43 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:

On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


Richmond-

Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:


I like to inter

I'm a *real* trouble


right-on, boyo . . .  :)


maker.


polate.

...troublemaker...

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Peter M. Brigham, MD]

On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

> Richmond-
> 
> Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:
> 
>> I like to inter

I'm a *real* troublemaker.

>> polate.
> 
> ...troublemaker...

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Richmond]

On 11/16/2011 02:47 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Richmond wrote:


On 11/15/2011 06:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Perhaps I should have used a bit of reverse psychology here...


Quite.


Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:


I like to interpolate.

What? Me?


...troublemaker...



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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Bob Sneidar]

On Nov 15, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Richmond wrote:

> On 11/15/2011 06:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>> Richmond-

Perhaps I should have used a bit of reverse psychology here...

>> 
>> Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:
>> 
>>> I like to interpolate.
> 
> What? Me?
> 
>> ...troublemaker...
>> 
> 
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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Richmond]

On 11/15/2011 06:24 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Richmond-

Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:


I like to interpolate.


What? Me?


...troublemaker...




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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Mark Wieder]

Richmond-

Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 2:52:03 AM, you wrote:

> I like to interpolate.

...troublemaker...

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Richmond]

On 11/15/2011 05:10 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 11/14/11 7:25 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Top please.




I like to interpolate.

You'll start a war. But I believe it is customary to include a brief 
quote and reply underneath on most lists, so that the conversation can 
be read from top to bottom in order.





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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Jerry Jensen]

On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:10 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 11/14/11 7:25 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> Top please.
> 
> You'll start a war. But I believe it is customary to include a brief quote 
> and reply underneath on most lists, so that the conversation can be read from 
> top to bottom in order.

"I refuse to get involved in a theological argument." - Charlie Brown
To avoid the endian politic, I suggest going with the flow, and continuing a 
discussion at the bottom if it is already going that way, or on top if its 
going that way. First responder gets her/his way. Trimming is the important 
part for either.
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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[J. Landman Gay]

On 11/14/11 7:25 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Top please.


You'll start a war. But I believe it is customary to include a brief 
quote and reply underneath on most lists, so that the conversation can 
be read from top to bottom in order.


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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Warren Samples]

On 11/14/2011 07:25 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Top please.



This is a whole other topic. I personally prefer to have the new reply 
at the bottom, as the quoted text prepares the context for the reply. I 
understand the other point of view, and I would say that it frequently 
doesn't make a difference practically speaking, but usually when it 
does, it's because I've been assisted by the "prologue".


I would complain more about those who reply point by point, placing 
their replies between quoted sections. This is often confusing.


Warren

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Roger Eller]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> This is why I only quote the relevant part of message, usually the last
> one or two replies at most. The frustrating thing for me is when the email
> is set up to reply at the BOTTOM of all the quoted text. Can't people see
> it's a hassle to scroll all the way through 5 pages of quoted text to see
> what the reply was? Yes I can drag the elevator box to the bottom on each
> email. Why should I have to? That is my big beef. Lots of quotes are not a
> problem for me. Having lots of quotes to scroll through, and some being
> mixed top and bottom, and finally getting to the bottom where I read that
> the person replying cannot help, yeah that is a b**ch. I feel ya man.
>
> For those who do not know, most email programs allow you to select some
> text and then hit reply, quoting only the selected text. Sadly, web
> browsers do not (to my knowledge) know how to do this. But most DO allow
> you to set where the reply will be placed, top or bottom. Top please.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
>
> > Hi to any out there who agree, or who don't agree.
> >
> > I have better things to do than scan down repeated
> > messages. I thought that some of you may agree !
> > (previous threads on this subject got better responses,
> > and I thought that a reminder was a good idea ).
> >
> > It is your prerogative to fill the forum (or watch it
> > filled) with repetition, and without commenting upon it.
> > It is also mine to ignore, and to beef about it.
> > That is what forums are for (all comments accepted !)
> >
> > I thought that users were repeating past messages
> > because they didn't know how NOT to do it !
> > If they are doing it deliberately, then go ahead, it's
> > a free world.
> >
> > I'm sure, then, you won't mind if I skip over all of
> > these messages without even a casual glance.
> >
> > I retire gracefully.
> >
> > -Francis
> >
> > "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"
> >
> >
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Not like this? Correct?  er, uh... I mean Incorrect?

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Re: Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Bob Sneidar]

This is why I only quote the relevant part of message, usually the last one or 
two replies at most. The frustrating thing for me is when the email is set up 
to reply at the BOTTOM of all the quoted text. Can't people see it's a hassle 
to scroll all the way through 5 pages of quoted text to see what the reply was? 
Yes I can drag the elevator box to the bottom on each email. Why should I have 
to? That is my big beef. Lots of quotes are not a problem for me. Having lots 
of quotes to scroll through, and some being mixed top and bottom, and finally 
getting to the bottom where I read that the person replying cannot help, yeah 
that is a b**ch. I feel ya man. 

For those who do not know, most email programs allow you to select some text 
and then hit reply, quoting only the selected text. Sadly, web browsers do not 
(to my knowledge) know how to do this. But most DO allow you to set where the 
reply will be placed, top or bottom. Top please. 

Bob


On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> Hi to any out there who agree, or who don't agree.
> 
> I have better things to do than scan down repeated
> messages. I thought that some of you may agree !
> (previous threads on this subject got better responses,
> and I thought that a reminder was a good idea ).
> 
> It is your prerogative to fill the forum (or watch it
> filled) with repetition, and without commenting upon it.
> It is also mine to ignore, and to beef about it.
> That is what forums are for (all comments accepted !)
> 
> I thought that users were repeating past messages
> because they didn't know how NOT to do it !
> If they are doing it deliberately, then go ahead, it's
> a free world.
> 
> I'm sure, then, you won't mind if I skip over all of
> these messages without even a casual glance.
> 
> I retire gracefully.
> 
> -Francis
> 
> "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"
> 
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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Mark Schonewille]

Thanks for explaining, Francis. Yes, I agree that one level of quoting is 
sufficient, but I also believe it is necessary.

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On 12 nov 2011, at 11:37, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> Hi to all who may have had problems understanding
> my very bad English,
> 
> You are correct, I did mention 6 and 7 levels,
> I felt sure that many of you would think that this
> is a little excessive.
> 
> Of course, Mark, I agree that one level is perfectly
> acceptable, IF the mail is counsel, or an answer
> to a question. It saves people scrabbling to find
> out what the question was  :>)
> 
> And it is certainly useful to those who don't consult
> the forum regularly.
> 
> As for those who thought my thread wasted more
> disk space than 6/7 levels of repetition over an
> indeterminate period of time, I'm sure you would
> grudgingly agree that this is obviously false.
> 
> I hope this closes the debate.
> 
> -Francis
> 
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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi to all who may have had problems understanding
my very bad English,

You are correct, I did mention 6 and 7 levels,
I felt sure that many of you would think that this
is a little excessive.

Of course, Mark, I agree that one level is perfectly
acceptable, IF the mail is counsel, or an answer
to a question. It saves people scrabbling to find
out what the question was  :>)

And it is certainly useful to those who don't consult
the forum regularly.

As for those who thought my thread wasted more
disk space than 6/7 levels of repetition over an
indeterminate period of time, I'm sure you would
grudgingly agree that this is obviously false.

I hope this closes the debate.

-Francis

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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Matthias,

True, he spoke of 6 or 7 levels, but he didn't explicitly say whether he is 
against quoting at all or only against excessive quoting. I got the impression 
he is against quoting at all, but as I said I might be mistaken and perhaps 
Francis could explain it.

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On 11 nov 2011, at 19:24, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Francis spoke about 6 to 7 levels of quoting. And that is at least for me 
> excessive quoting and makes it sometimes very hard to read and understand.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 


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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi Mark,

Francis spoke about 6 to 7 levels of quoting. And that is at least for me 
excessive quoting and makes it sometimes very hard to read and understand.

Regards,

Matthias


Am 11.11.2011 um 19:02 schrieb Mark Schonewille:

> Hi Robert,
> 
> No, I don't think he meant excessive quoting, I think he meant all quoting, 
> but if I'm mistaken, I'm sure Francis can explain.
> 
> --
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> 
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> On 11 nov 2011, at 17:22, Robert Brenstein wrote:
>> 
>> I understood Francis' was talking about EXCESSIVE quoting. Repeating the 
>> post one actually replies to, or a relevant chunk of it, if it is long, is 
>> certainly desirable.
>> 
>> Robert
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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Robert,

No, I don't think he meant excessive quoting, I think he meant all quoting, but 
if I'm mistaken, I'm sure Francis can explain.

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On 11 nov 2011, at 17:22, Robert Brenstein wrote:
> 
> I understood Francis' was talking about EXCESSIVE quoting. Repeating the post 
> one actually replies to, or a relevant chunk of it, if it is long, is 
> certainly desirable.
> 
> Robert


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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Robert Brenstein]

On 10.11.2011 at 13:15 Uhr +0100 Mark Schonewille apparently wrote:

Hi Francis,

Usually I don't reply to messages that don't quote the preceding 
message. If you would like me to answer your questions and take part 
in discussions that may benefit you, quote the previous message. If 
you don't want me to reply, don't quote.


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Mark Schonewille


I understood Francis' was talking about EXCESSIVE quoting. Repeating 
the post one actually replies to, or a relevant chunk of it, if it is 
long, is certainly desirable.


Robert

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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Peter M. Brigham, MD]

I also prefer to see something about the current thread in the reply itself, at 
least enough to recognize the context. It drives me crazy to see a short reply 
to something and then "View this message in context:..." -- mostly I ignore 
such messages when the subject header doesn't immediately illuminate things, 
which it may not, if the last piece of the thread dates back a week or so.

However, I'm in favor of brevity as long as it doesn't sacrifice 
intelligibility. It only takes a minute to edit the quotes to shorten things up 
and, especially, delete the repeated 5-line "use-livecode mailing list..." 
footers, which really are a waste of space.

-- Peter

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On Nov 10, 2011, at 8:43 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:

> Francis.
> 
> I agree with Mark. It is very convenient to see the recent history of any 
> discussion, laid out below the current entry for quick access. Beats opening 
> other eMails located heaven knows where, or searching the archives.
> 
> Space is cheap.
> 
> Craig Newman
> 
> Mark Schonewille  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Francis,
>> 
>> Usually I don't reply to messages that don't quote the preceding message. If 
>> you 
>> would like me to answer your questions and take part in discussions that may 
>> benefit you, quote the previous message. If you don't want me to reply, 
>> don't 
>> quote.
>> 
>> On 10 nov 2011, at 13:09, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi to any culpritsl,
>>> 
>>> Sorry to any of you who include past mails
>>> within their new mail ... BUT .
>>> 
>>>  You are wasting space !
>>> 
>>> Some of you go up to 6 or 7 levels, without
>>> thinking that we don't need to see the same
>>> information 6 or 7 times.
>>> 
>>> If anybody wants to follow whatever was
>>> said on that thread, they can always use :
>>> 
>>> http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/
>>> 
>>> With thanks from us others ...



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Re : Wasting space on the forum.

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi to any out there who agree, or who don't agree.

I have better things to do than scan down repeated
messages. I thought that some of you may agree !
(previous threads on this subject got better responses,
and I thought that a reminder was a good idea ).

It is your prerogative to fill the forum (or watch it
filled) with repetition, and without commenting upon it.
It is also mine to ignore, and to beef about it.
That is what forums are for (all comments accepted !)

I thought that users were repeating past messages
because they didn't know how NOT to do it !
If they are doing it deliberately, then go ahead, it's
a free world.

I'm sure, then, you won't mind if I skip over all of
these messages without even a casual glance.

I retire gracefully.

-Francis

"Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"


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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Pete]

I wonder how much hard drive space we've wasted commenting on this :-)

Pete
Molly's Revenge 




On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:42 AM, RevList  wrote:

> How to use LiveCode  on Thursday, November
> 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM -0800 wrote:
> >I think the biggest reason people leave the stuff in and don't trim is
> >because many people use Google mail, which not only arranges threads
> >nicely, but obfuscates long chains of conversations completely - out of
> >sight, out of mind.
> >
> >I personally have a pet peeve against the whole chain showing up in every
> >email, and when replying, I usually only include a small portion of what
> >started the thread or the last point raised. I do a lot of trimming. It
> >only takes a second.
> >
> >Hard drives will be getting more expensive.
>
> I can't agree more.  I have been using a system (FirstClass) that has been
> using a threaded message system for many years (20) so never have I used
> the Inbox/outbox format.  I see all messages
> related to a specific post all threaded together and it is easy  for me to
> go back and forth among responses on a particular topic.
>
> **
> Stewart Lynch
> CreaTECH Solutions
> sly...@createchsol.com
> 604.484.8499
> Skype:StewartLynch
>
> There are only 10 kinds of people.  Those who understand binary and those
> who don't.
> **
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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[René Micout]

Like that ?
Bon souvenir de Paris
René
:-)

Le 10 nov. 2011 à 19:32, stephen barncard a écrit :

> I personally have a pet peeve against the whole chain showing up in every
> email, and when replying, I usually only include a small portion of what
> started the thread or the last point raised. I do a lot of trimming. It
> only takes a second.

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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[RevList]

How to use LiveCode  on Thursday, November 10, 
2011 at 10:32 AM -0800 wrote:
>I think the biggest reason people leave the stuff in and don't trim is
>because many people use Google mail, which not only arranges threads
>nicely, but obfuscates long chains of conversations completely - out of
>sight, out of mind.
>
>I personally have a pet peeve against the whole chain showing up in every
>email, and when replying, I usually only include a small portion of what
>started the thread or the last point raised. I do a lot of trimming. It
>only takes a second.
>
>Hard drives will be getting more expensive.

I can't agree more.  I have been using a system (FirstClass) that has been 
using a threaded message system for many years (20) so never have I used the 
Inbox/outbox format.  I see all messages
related to a specific post all threaded together and it is easy  for me to go 
back and forth among responses on a particular topic.

**
Stewart Lynch
CreaTECH Solutions
sly...@createchsol.com
604.484.8499
Skype:StewartLynch

There are only 10 kinds of people.  Those who understand binary and those who 
don't.
**

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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[stephen barncard]

I think the biggest reason people leave the stuff in and don't trim is
because many people use Google mail, which not only arranges threads
nicely, but obfuscates long chains of conversations completely - out of
sight, out of mind.

I personally have a pet peeve against the whole chain showing up in every
email, and when replying, I usually only include a small portion of what
started the thread or the last point raised. I do a lot of trimming. It
only takes a second.

Hard drives will be getting more expensive.

On 10 November 2011 05:43,  wrote:

> Francis.
>
>
> I agree with Mark. It is very convenient to see the recent history of any
> discussion, laid out below the current entry for quick access. Beats
> opening other eMails located heaven knows where, or searching the archives.
>
>
> Space is cheap.
>
>
> Craig Newman
>
> Stephen Barncard
>
San Francisco Ca. USA

more about sqb  
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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[dunbarx]

Francis.


I agree with Mark. It is very convenient to see the recent history of any 
discussion, laid out below the current entry for quick access. Beats opening 
other eMails located heaven knows where, or searching the archives.


Space is cheap.


Craig Newman



-Original Message-
From: Mark Schonewille 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 2:17 am
Subject: Re: Wasting space on the forum.


Hi Francis,

Usually I don't reply to messages that don't quote the preceding message. If 
you 
would like me to answer your questions and take part in discussions that may 
benefit you, quote the previous message. If you don't want me to reply, don't 
quote.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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On 10 nov 2011, at 13:09, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> Hi to any culpritsl,
> 
> Sorry to any of you who include past mails
> within their new mail ... BUT .
> 
> You are wasting space !
> 
> Some of you go up to 6 or 7 levels, without
> thinking that we don't need to see the same
> information 6 or 7 times.
> 
> If anybody wants to follow whatever was
> said on that thread, they can always use :
> 
> http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/
> 
> With thanks from us others ...
> 
> - Francis


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Re: Wasting space on the forum.

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Francis,

Usually I don't reply to messages that don't quote the preceding message. If 
you would like me to answer your questions and take part in discussions that 
may benefit you, quote the previous message. If you don't want me to reply, 
don't quote.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Become our partner in sales http://qery.us/16r Start selling Color Converter 
today. 20% commission!

On 10 nov 2011, at 13:09, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> Hi to any culpritsl,
> 
> Sorry to any of you who include past mails
> within their new mail ... BUT .
> 
> You are wasting space !
> 
> Some of you go up to 6 or 7 levels, without
> thinking that we don't need to see the same
> information 6 or 7 times.
> 
> If anybody wants to follow whatever was
> said on that thread, they can always use :
> 
> http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/
> 
> With thanks from us others ...
> 
> - Francis


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Wasting space on the forum.

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi to any culpritsl,

Sorry to any of you who include past mails
within their new mail ... BUT .

 You are wasting space !

Some of you go up to 6 or 7 levels, without
thinking that we don't need to see the same
information 6 or 7 times.

If anybody wants to follow whatever was
said on that thread, they can always use :

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/

With thanks from us others ...

- Francis

"Nothing should ever be done for the first time !"

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