Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Devin Asay
Hi all,

I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop. It 
installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to open a 
script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on the task 
bar, but clicking on the tab doesn’t bring up the editor window. It’s almost 
like it’s invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing IDE windows in the 
View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager list, but again, it won’t 
appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to true doesn’t help, neither does 
setting the loc to somewhere on screen.

Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe there’s something about Windows 10 I 
don’t get, like some sort of virtual desktop, “Spaces” thing.

Any ideas appreciated.

Devin

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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Scott Rossi
Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
that it's within the screenRect?

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"

wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
>open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
>the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesn¹t bring up the editor window.
>It¹s almost like it¹s invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
>IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
>list, but again, it won¹t appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
>true doesn¹t help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
>
>Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe there¹s something about
>Windows 10 I don¹t get, like some sort of virtual desktop, ³Spaces² thing.
>
>Any ideas appreciated.
>
>Devin
>
>Devin Asay
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>
>
>
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Devin Asay

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> 
> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
> that it's within the screenRect?
> 

Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.

> 
> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
>> open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
>> the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor window.
>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
>> IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
>> list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
>> true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
>> 
>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
>> Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ thing.
>> 
>> Any ideas appreciated.
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Dar Scott
Check the screenRect?  


> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
>> that it's within the screenRect?
>> 
> 
> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
> 
>> 
>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
>>> open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
>>> the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor window.
>>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
>>> IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
>>> list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
>>> true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
>>> Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ thing.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Devin Asay
Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to an 
acceptable size.

What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new user 
account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in the new 
account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?

Devin


> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
> 
> Check the screenRect?  
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
>>> that it's within the screenRect?
>>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
 It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
 open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
 the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor window.
 Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
 IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
 list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
 true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
 
 Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
 Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ thing.
 
 Any ideas appreciated.
 
 Devin
 
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Dar Scott
I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a super 
huge monitor.

Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
cleared in the new account.  

My inclination is to blame 10.  

Dar

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> 
> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to an 
> acceptable size.
> 
> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new user 
> account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in the 
> new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
> 
> Devin
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> Check the screenRect?  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
 
 Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
 that it's within the screenRect?
 
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
>>> 
 
 On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
 
 wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
> open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
> the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor window.
> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
> IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
> list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
> true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
> 
> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
> Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ thing.
> 
> Any ideas appreciated.
> 
> Devin
> 
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Devin Asay

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
> 
> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a super 
> huge monitor.
> 
> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
> cleared in the new account.  
> 
> My inclination is to blame 10. 

My sentiments exactly. ;)



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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Scott Rossi
The script editor in v7 also seems to suffer from display issues.  Once
I've ruled out blendLevel and position, the only way I've been able to get
it to reappear is issue "close stack 

Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Jerry Jensen
One more thing that might show up in “the screenrects” would be messes like 
left >= right or top >= bottom. 
.Jerry

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
> 
> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a super 
> huge monitor.
> 
> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
> cleared in the new account.  
> 
> My inclination is to blame 10.  
> 
> Dar
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>> 
>> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to an 
>> acceptable size.
>> 
>> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new user 
>> account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in the 
>> new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check the screenRect?  
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
 
 
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
> 
> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and verifying
> that it's within the screenRect?
> 
 
 Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
 
> 
> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries to
>> open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it on
>> the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor window.
>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
>> IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
>> list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility to
>> true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
>> 
>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
>> Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ 
>> thing.
>> 
>> Any ideas appreciated.
>> 
>> Devin
>> 
>> Devin Asay
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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Devin Asay
Thanks, Dar, Scott, and Jerry, for the suggestions. I’ll pass those along to my 
student. (Assuming she wants to get to the bottom of the problem, instead of 
being satisfied with the workaround.)

Devin



> On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:
> 
> One more thing that might show up in “the screenrects” would be messes like 
> left >= right or top >= bottom. 
> .Jerry
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a 
>> super huge monitor.
>> 
>> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
>> cleared in the new account.  
>> 
>> My inclination is to blame 10.  
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to 
>>> an acceptable size.
>>> 
>>> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new 
>>> user account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in 
>>> the new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
 
 Check the screenRect?  
 
 
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>> 
>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and 
>> verifying
>> that it's within the screenRect?
>> 
> 
> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
> 
>> 
>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she tries 
>>> to
>>> open a script editor window, it does not appear. There is a tab for it 
>>> on
>>> the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring up the editor 
>>> window.
>>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried showing
>>> IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the Project Manager
>>> list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. Setting the visibility 
>>> to
>>> true doesnąt help, neither does setting the loc to somewhere on screen.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something about
>>> Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, łSpaces˛ 
>>> thing.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
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AW: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Might be something different, but I have for a long time over all last versions 
randomly odd IDE window behavior on Windows. Often there is a window, sometimes 
the script editor, sometime a stack of mine, where the window keeps minimized 
in the task bar and only can be opend by right klicking on the task bar icon 
and choose "maximize".
Tiemo


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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2016 22:45
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Betreff: Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

Thanks, Dar, Scott, and Jerry, for the suggestions. I’ll pass those along to my 
student. (Assuming she wants to get to the bottom of the problem, instead of 
being satisfied with the workaround.)

Devin



> On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:
> 
> One more thing that might show up in “the screenrects” would be messes like 
> left >= right or top >= bottom. 
> .Jerry
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a 
>> super huge monitor.
>> 
>> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
>> cleared in the new account.  
>> 
>> My inclination is to blame 10.  
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to 
>>> an acceptable size.
>>> 
>>> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new 
>>> user account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in 
>>> the new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Check the screenRect?  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and 
>>>>>> verifying that it's within the screenRect?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>>>>>> >>>>> devina...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>>>>>>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she 
>>>>>>> tries to open a script editor window, it does not appear. There 
>>>>>>> is a tab for it on the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring 
>>>>>>> up the editor window.
>>>>>>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried 
>>>>>>> showing IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the 
>>>>>>> Project Manager list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. 
>>>>>>> Setting the visibility to true doesnąt help, neither does setting the 
>>>>>>> loc to somewhere on screen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something 
>>>>>>> about Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, 
>>>>>>> łSpaces˛ thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin Asay
>>>>>>> Learn to code with LiveCode University 
>>>>>>> https://livecode.com/store/education/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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RE: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread Paul Richards
I have had this once before, drove me nuts for a while! 

Load stack normally and trigger code editor, If you then hover your mouse over 
the Livecode icon on the taskbar, a few smaller windows will appear, one of 
which will be the code editor.  Right mouse click on that window and select 
maximize - This should then display code editor full screen, allowing you to 
resize accordingly.  Since performing that trick, I haven't had the issue 
again. 

Paul 
-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Asay
Sent: 16 June 2016 21:45
To: How to use LiveCode 
Subject: Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

Thanks, Dar, Scott, and Jerry, for the suggestions. I’ll pass those along to my 
student. (Assuming she wants to get to the bottom of the problem, instead of 
being satisfied with the workaround.)

Devin



> On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:
> 
> One more thing that might show up in “the screenrects” would be messes like 
> left >= right or top >= bottom. 
> .Jerry
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a 
>> super huge monitor.
>> 
>> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
>> cleared in the new account.  
>> 
>> My inclination is to blame 10.  
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to 
>>> an acceptable size.
>>> 
>>> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new 
>>> user account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in 
>>> the new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Check the screenRect?  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and 
>>>>>> verifying that it's within the screenRect?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>>>>>> >>>>> devina...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>>>>>>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she 
>>>>>>> tries to open a script editor window, it does not appear. There 
>>>>>>> is a tab for it on the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring 
>>>>>>> up the editor window.
>>>>>>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried 
>>>>>>> showing IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the 
>>>>>>> Project Manager list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen. 
>>>>>>> Setting the visibility to true doesnąt help, neither does setting the 
>>>>>>> loc to somewhere on screen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something 
>>>>>>> about Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, 
>>>>>>> łSpaces˛ thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin Asay
>>>>>>> Learn to code with LiveCode University 
>>>>>>> https://livecode.com/store/education/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> subscription preferences:
>>>&

RE: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread ** Clarence P Martin **
I had a similar problem but with the Stack Properties window. I filed a bug 
report and the answer that I received was to delete the preferences file since 
it looked like some type of corruption in the file.
That suggestion from tech support worked.
See Bug 17651

Sincerely,

Clarence Martin
Email: chi...@themartinz.com
Cell: 626 6965561

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richards
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 2:13 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Subject: RE: Windows 10 script editor problem

I have had this once before, drove me nuts for a while! 

Load stack normally and trigger code editor, If you then hover your mouse over 
the Livecode icon on the taskbar, a few smaller windows will appear, one of 
which will be the code editor.  Right mouse click on that window and select 
maximize - This should then display code editor full screen, allowing you to 
resize accordingly.  Since performing that trick, I haven't had the issue 
again. 

Paul
-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Asay
Sent: 16 June 2016 21:45
To: How to use LiveCode 
Subject: Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

Thanks, Dar, Scott, and Jerry, for the suggestions. I’ll pass those along to my 
student. (Assuming she wants to get to the bottom of the problem, instead of 
being satisfied with the workaround.)

Devin



> On Jun 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:
> 
> One more thing that might show up in “the screenrects” would be messes like 
> left >= right or top >= bottom. 
> .Jerry
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn't thinking resolution, but some surprise, like ten monitors or a 
>> super huge monitor.
>> 
>> Maybe there was something weird in your remote desktop settings that was 
>> cleared in the new account.  
>> 
>> My inclination is to blame 10.  
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn’t do that specifically, but it seemed like the resolution was set to 
>>> an acceptable size.
>>> 
>>> What we finally ended up doing that worked was to have her create a new 
>>> user account and reopen livecode. Script editor window shows up normally in 
>>> the new account. So… weird Win 10 setting or corrupted prefs file?
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Dar Scott  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Check the screenRect?  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Did you try checking the editor window's location or topLeft and 
>>>>>> verifying that it's within the screenRect?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, I tried that. No dice. Set the topLeft to 100,100.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/16/16, 12:10 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay"
>>>>>> >>>>> devina...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a student who is trying to run 8.1.0DP1 on her Windows 10 laptop.
>>>>>>> It installs and launches, and she can open a stack, but when she 
>>>>>>> tries to open a script editor window, it does not appear. There 
>>>>>>> is a tab for it on the task bar, but clicking on the tab doesnąt bring 
>>>>>>> up the editor window.
>>>>>>> Itąs almost like itąs invisible or off screen somewhere. I tried 
>>>>>>> showing IDE windows in the View menu, and I can see it in the 
>>>>>>> Project Manager list, but again, it wonąt appear on the screen.
>>>>>>> Setting the visibility to true doesnąt help, neither does setting the 
>>>>>>> loc to somewhere on screen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has anybody run into this with LC 8? Maybe thereąs something 
>>>>>>> about Windows 10 I donąt get, like some sort of virtual desktop, 
>>>>>>> łSpaces˛ thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Devin Asay
>>>>>>> L

Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

Clarence P Martin wrote:

> I had a similar problem but with the Stack Properties window. I filed
> a bug report and the answer that I received was to delete the
> preferences file since it looked like some type of corruption in the
> file.
> That suggestion from tech support worked.
> See Bug 17651

Deleting the prefs stack is the answer to far too many questions.

The LC stack file format is robust.  What exactly is the IDE doing that 
makes its prefs file so pervasively brittle?


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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread [-hh]
Disappearing property inspector and script editor
windows happen often here in latest desktop versions
of LC 6/7 on all three, Mac/Win/Linux.
I had then always a lot of windows open or too many
(closed) stacks in memory.
That's why I cannot fix a situation for a bug report.

== The hidden property inspector requires regularly a
restart of LC (purging RAM requires more time).

== The hidden script editor window is here *ALWAYS*
available in LC-menu "Window" and comes back to front
if selected. I prefer such a 'passive' behaviour to 
an 'aggressive' top-layering of the editor (which I
saw in some other development environments).



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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread [-hh]
> Disappearing property inspector and script editor
> windows happen often here in latest desktop versions
> of LC 6/7 on all three, Mac/Win/Linux.

Should read "LC 6/7/8".



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Re: Windows 10 script editor problem

2016-06-17 Thread Monte Goulding
HI Folks

I've done some work on preferences recently and there are a number of issues 
but I think the core of it is preferences are currently undocumented. I've 
started and we will document more as we touch each preference. If anyone from 
the community is interested to contribute to that effort it would be a great 
help. 

The next issue is in many cases there are still older that scripts get and set 
custom properties directly on the revPreferences stack rather than go via the 
revIDEGetPreference and revIDESetPreference. This makes it difficult for us to 
switch to a non-stackFile based data store. Only recently did we notice there 
was a setProp handler on the revPreferences stack that was interfering with the 
menu! Again if anyone wants to contribute to changing preference getters and 
setters to use the API they are more than welcome.

Regarding IDE stacks not being where they are meant to be I have done some work 
on this recently with a focus on multiple screen issues. Many IDE stacks were 
using the screenRect and the screenLoc rather than line (the screen of this 
stack) of the working screenRects. If anyone wants to see and comment on my 
changes and suggest others here is my proposed patch.

https://github.com/livecode/livecode-ide/pull/1238

There are still issues with:

- saving stack rects in preferences in combination with multiple screens where 
if you have a few different common screen arrangements (for me either just my 
laptop as main screen or my 27 inch monitor as main screen and my laptop and 
another monitor on each side) the IDE should remember where you want things for 
that screen arrangement.
- saving screen rects while a stack is in a maximized/Mac fullscreen state 
rather than saving the state. This requires some support at engine level for 
control and awareness of the maximized state of a window. Dealing with 
fullscreen state on Mac is rather high priority now that 10.11 has defaulted 
toplevel windows to have the fullscreen rather than zoom button.

Cheers

Monte

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> On 18 Jun 2016, at 1:35 AM, Richard Gaskin  wrote:
> 
>  What exactly is the IDE doing that makes its prefs file so pervasively 
> brittle?


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