Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Ah thanks! That worked. Unfortunately there is no alternative for the Mac. :-(

Bob S


> On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:29 , Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, you press Alt and tap the spacebar. Let go of both keys, then tap M, and 
> tap any arrow key. Move the cursor to see the frontmost window is attached.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Colin.
>> 
>> Hmmm.  I assume that all four of those keys are pressed at the same time?
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:52 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it does. The M is for Move, if you’re working on a non-English system 
>>> you would type the first letter for Move in your language.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Do I understand that, on Windows, typing those keys makes the frontmost 
 window track the cursor???
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

No, you press Alt and tap the spacebar. Let go of both keys, then tap M, and 
tap any arrow key. Move the cursor to see the frontmost window is attached.


> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Colin.
> 
> Hmmm.  I assume that all four of those keys are pressed at the same time?
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:52 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it does. The M is for Move, if you’re working on a non-English system 
>> you would type the first letter for Move in your language.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do I understand that, on Windows, typing those keys makes the frontmost 
>>> window track the cursor???
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Hi, Colin.

Hmmm.  I assume that all four of those keys are pressed at the same time?

Craig

> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:52 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it does. The M is for Move, if you’re working on a non-English system you 
> would type the first letter for Move in your language.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Do I understand that, on Windows, typing those keys makes the frontmost 
>> window track the cursor???
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

Yes it does. The M is for Move, if you’re working on a non-English system you 
would type the first letter for Move in your language.


> On Mar 14, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
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> Do I understand that, on Windows, typing those keys makes the frontmost 
> window track the cursor???

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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Craig Newman via use-livecode]

Hi.

Do I understand that, on Windows, typing those keys males the frontmost window 
track the cursor???

Craig

> On Mar 14, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
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> Is there a Macintosh equivalent to that?? 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 14:56 , Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is an issue on Windows that would show similar symptoms. That is, if a 
>> window is opened off screen it’s as if the application has frozen.
>> 
>> To see if that is the problem, type Alt-spacebar, M, any arrow key, and move 
>> the cursor. The offscreen window will be attached to the cursor, and a 
>> left-click will drop it off in the right place.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on 
>>> launch you might be able to test that part.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
 Do you have an app I can test?
> On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 
> 11 update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem 
> is?
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Is there a Macintosh equivalent to that?? 

Bob S


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 14:56 , Colin Holgate via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is an issue on Windows that would show similar symptoms. That is, if a 
> window is opened off screen it’s as if the application has frozen.
> 
> To see if that is the problem, type Alt-spacebar, M, any arrow key, and move 
> the cursor. The offscreen window will be attached to the cursor, and a 
> left-click will drop it off in the right place.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on 
>> launch you might be able to test that part.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Do you have an app I can test?
 On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 
 11 update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
 
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

That's good to know, I'm glad it worked for you. The app's UAC is set to "highest available." 
Should it be something else?


Thanks to both you and Colin for taking a look. Until this last week there were no complaints, 
but now support has had several. The app has been in use for a couple of years now.


On 3/13/22 5:44 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:

I've created a small sample Windows app and created 3 standalones using 
different settings in standalone settings for UAC execution level
With 'Default' and 'Same As Invoker' no message comes up running that app on Win 11, but 
with UAC execution level set to 'Highest Available' i get this message. Pressing Yes 
button to "allow any changes" opens the app without a problem.




Am 13.03.2022 um 23:04 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
:


By the way that question comes normally from the UAC (user account control) 
prompt.
What UAC level did you select in LCs standalone settings under the Windows Tab?




Am 13.03.2022 um 22:38 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:

I'm not sure, but I think it's a Windows 11 update released very recently 
within the last few days, and a few students have installed it. They say the 
app won't launch. Windows asks if the user wants to let it make changes to the 
computer, they click Yes, then nothing happens.

We think one student uninstalled and re-installed, and then it worked, but 
we're not sure about that either. The student asked if data would be lost if 
they uninstalled (no, it wouldn't) and after that the server started recording 
data from the student.

We can test ourselves tomorrow but I thought I'd find out if anyone else had an 
issue.

On 3/13/22 3:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

You should check for an update, I’m on 22572.100, maybe that’s the update that 
showed a problem?

On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:27 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
 wrote:

What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower to 11 
or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?

I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, installed 
and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was not a problem.

Regards,
Matthias



Am 13.03.2022 um 20:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
:

We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?




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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Would that be an offscreen window on any app, or just the one you're launching? I'll ask my 
client to try your trick, we do open a login screen from a substack. The mainstack isn't 
offscreen though, it's just made invisible.


You did get to the login screen though, so...?


On 3/13/22 4:56 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

There is an issue on Windows that would show similar symptoms. That is, if a 
window is opened off screen it’s as if the application has frozen.

To see if that is the problem, type Alt-spacebar, M, any arrow key, and move 
the cursor. The offscreen window will be attached to the cursor, and a 
left-click will drop it off in the right place.



On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on 
launch you might be able to test that part.



On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have an app I can test?

On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?

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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

I've created a small sample Windows app and created 3 standalones using 
different settings in standalone settings for UAC execution level
With 'Default' and 'Same As Invoker' no message comes up running that app on 
Win 11, but with UAC execution level set to 'Highest Available' i get this 
message. Pressing Yes button to "allow any changes" opens the app without a 
problem.



> Am 13.03.2022 um 23:04 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> 
> By the way that question comes normally from the UAC (user account control) 
> prompt. 
> What UAC level did you select in LCs standalone settings under the Windows 
> Tab?
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 13.03.2022 um 22:38 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> I'm not sure, but I think it's a Windows 11 update released very recently 
>> within the last few days, and a few students have installed it. They say the 
>> app won't launch. Windows asks if the user wants to let it make changes to 
>> the computer, they click Yes, then nothing happens.
>> 
>> We think one student uninstalled and re-installed, and then it worked, but 
>> we're not sure about that either. The student asked if data would be lost if 
>> they uninstalled (no, it wouldn't) and after that the server started 
>> recording data from the student.
>> 
>> We can test ourselves tomorrow but I thought I'd find out if anyone else had 
>> an issue.
>> 
>> On 3/13/22 3:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
>>> You should check for an update, I’m on 22572.100, maybe that’s the update 
>>> that showed a problem?
 On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:27 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower 
 to 11 or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?
 
 I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, 
 installed and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was 
 not a problem.
 
 Regards,
 Matthias
 
 
> Am 13.03.2022 um 20:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 
> 11 update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem 
> is?
> 
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

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By the way that question comes normally from the UAC (user account control) 
prompt. 
What UAC level did you select in LCs standalone settings under the Windows Tab?



> Am 13.03.2022 um 22:38 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I'm not sure, but I think it's a Windows 11 update released very recently 
> within the last few days, and a few students have installed it. They say the 
> app won't launch. Windows asks if the user wants to let it make changes to 
> the computer, they click Yes, then nothing happens.
> 
> We think one student uninstalled and re-installed, and then it worked, but 
> we're not sure about that either. The student asked if data would be lost if 
> they uninstalled (no, it wouldn't) and after that the server started 
> recording data from the student.
> 
> We can test ourselves tomorrow but I thought I'd find out if anyone else had 
> an issue.
> 
> On 3/13/22 3:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
>> You should check for an update, I’m on 22572.100, maybe that’s the update 
>> that showed a problem?
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:27 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower to 
>>> 11 or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?
>>> 
>>> I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, 
>>> installed and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was 
>>> not a problem.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 13.03.2022 um 20:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 :
 
 We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 
 11 update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
 
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

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There is an issue on Windows that would show similar symptoms. That is, if a 
window is opened off screen it’s as if the application has frozen.

To see if that is the problem, type Alt-spacebar, M, any arrow key, and move 
the cursor. The offscreen window will be attached to the cursor, and a 
left-click will drop it off in the right place.


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on 
> launch you might be able to test that part.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
>> Do you have an app I can test?
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
>>> update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

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I get the “do you want to allow” dialog, and after that I get to the sign in 
screen ok.


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on 
> launch you might be able to test that part.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:
>> Do you have an app I can test?
>>> On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
>>> update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
>>> 
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

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Well, you'd need an account with a school but since the problem is only on launch you might be 
able to test that part.




On 3/13/22 2:52 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

Do you have an app I can test?



On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?

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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

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I'm not sure, but I think it's a Windows 11 update released very recently within the last few 
days, and a few students have installed it. They say the app won't launch. Windows asks if the 
user wants to let it make changes to the computer, they click Yes, then nothing happens.


We think one student uninstalled and re-installed, and then it worked, but we're not sure about 
that either. The student asked if data would be lost if they uninstalled (no, it wouldn't) and 
after that the server started recording data from the student.


We can test ourselves tomorrow but I thought I'd find out if anyone else had an 
issue.

On 3/13/22 3:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote:

You should check for an update, I’m on 22572.100, maybe that’s the update that 
showed a problem?



On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:27 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
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What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower to 11 
or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?

I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, installed 
and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was not a problem.

Regards,
Matthias



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:

We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?

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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

You should check for an update, I’m on 22572.100, maybe that’s the update that 
showed a problem?


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 2:27 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower to 
> 11 or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?
> 
> I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, 
> installed and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was 
> not a problem.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 13.03.2022 um 20:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
>> update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
>> 
>> -- 
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[matthias rebbe via use-livecode]

What do you mean with new Windows 11 update? The update from 10 or lower to 11 
or from 11.xxx whatever build to a newer one?

I have here Windows 11 Build 22563, that's an insider preview build, installed 
and opening/running an LC standalone, created with LC 9.6.2, was not a problem.

Regards,
Matthias


> Am 13.03.2022 um 20:31 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
> update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
> 
> -- 
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Re: Windows 11 incompatible?

[Colin Holgate via use-livecode]

Do you have an app I can test?


> On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 
> update. Anyone else seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?
> 
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
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Windows 11 incompatible?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

We're getting reports that our LC app won't launch after the new Windows 11 update. Anyone else 
seeing this? If so, do you know what the problem is?


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