Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
This has little to do with LC and less to do with Ventura, but see your email. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On July 12, 2022 9:55:22 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Ah. I stand corrected. Of course, nothing in nature is linear. And I still need to figure out how a stomache would have done us any good withour a circulatory system to get the food to the cells, or lungs to get oxygen to everything for that matter. It seems if you think about it that no vital organ would have provided any advantage without all the other organs being fully developed. Begs some questions, eh? Bob S On Jul 12, 2022, at 03:28 , Richmond via use-livecode wrote: That is a complete misunderstanding of the elevator theory of evolution: this was a theory propagated by some of the people who misread Darwin (I don't mean Hobbesian individualists like Huxley and Dawkins) to say that evolution is a linear and ever-upwards process. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
Ah. I stand corrected. Of course, nothing in nature is linear. And I still need to figure out how a stomache would have done us any good withour a circulatory system to get the food to the cells, or lungs to get oxygen to everything for that matter. It seems if you think about it that no vital organ would have provided any advantage without all the other organs being fully developed. Begs some questions, eh? Bob S > On Jul 12, 2022, at 03:28 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > That is a complete misunderstanding of the elevator theory of evolution: this > was a theory propagated by some > of the people who misread Darwin (I don't mean Hobbesian individualists like > Huxley and Dawkins) to say that > evolution is a linear and ever-upwards process. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
That is a complete misunderstanding of the elevator theory of evolution: this was a theory propagated by some of the people who misread Darwin (I don't mean Hobbesian individualists like Huxley and Dawkins) to say that evolution is a linear and ever-upwards process. On 11.07.22 18:31, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Like how did our stomaches evolve without a circulatory system, and without a circulatory system, how did we develop stomaches? Bob S On Jul 10, 2022, at 23:53 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Running RevMedia 4 on Xubuntu 22.04 serves as a reminder of some of the niggles relating to the elevator theory of human evolution. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
Like how did our stomaches evolve without a circulatory system, and without a circulatory system, how did we develop stomaches? Bob S > On Jul 10, 2022, at 23:53 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Running RevMedia 4 on Xubuntu 22.04 serves as a reminder of some of the > niggles relating to the elevator theory of human evolution. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
In general, Ventura is going well. > On Jul 11, 2022, at 12:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well there go my plans for early adoption. > > I do feel that the 'new OS a year' model means that ALL the versions are > unfinished. > > I could say the same about LiveCode versions. > > Running RevMedia 4 on Xubuntu 22.04 serves as a reminder of some of the > niggles relating to the elevator theory of human evolution. > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2022, 08:46 Paul McClernan via use-livecode, < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> The OSS "community" already had TONs of work to do. >> >> Apparently a lot of other software is crashing with macOS Ventura as well. >> I wonder why? Time to install Ventura and find out I guess. >> >> Every year this former mac fan-boy inches closer to becoming a Linux >> regular. >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:50 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >> wrote: >>> >>> On 7/10/22 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script >> window of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. >>> >>> Sounds like the OSS community has some work to do, if there is anyone >> with the skills still there. >>> >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
Well there go my plans for early adoption. I do feel that the 'new OS a year' model means that ALL the versions are unfinished. I could say the same about LiveCode versions. Running RevMedia 4 on Xubuntu 22.04 serves as a reminder of some of the niggles relating to the elevator theory of human evolution. On Mon, 11 Jul 2022, 08:46 Paul McClernan via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The OSS "community" already had TONs of work to do. > > Apparently a lot of other software is crashing with macOS Ventura as well. > I wonder why? Time to install Ventura and find out I guess. > > Every year this former mac fan-boy inches closer to becoming a Linux > regular. > > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:50 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > > > On 7/10/22 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: > > > With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script > window of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. > > > > Sounds like the OSS community has some work to do, if there is anyone > with the skills still there. > > > > -- > > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
The OSS "community" already had TONs of work to do. Apparently a lot of other software is crashing with macOS Ventura as well. I wonder why? Time to install Ventura and find out I guess. Every year this former mac fan-boy inches closer to becoming a Linux regular. On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:50 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > On 7/10/22 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: > > With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script window > > of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. > > Sounds like the OSS community has some work to do, if there is anyone with > the skills still there. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
On 7/10/22 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script window of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. Sounds like the OSS community has some work to do, if there is anyone with the skills still there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
On 7/10/2022 1:26 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script window of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. Opening a stack made in 9.6.3 with Monterey, does show 10.16.0 when run in 9.6.3 in Ventura. Thank you. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
With 9.6.3 Community version, showing the message box, or the script window of a button, crashes LiveCode right away. Opening a stack made in 9.6.3 with Monterey, does show 10.16.0 when run in 9.6.3 in Ventura. > On Jul 10, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: > > Is anyone out there in Livecode land running a developer beta of macOS > Ventura (13.x.x)? > > If so, I am hoping you can perform a quick test: > > systemVersion() returns 10.16 for macOS Big Sur or Monterey under Livecode > 9.6.7 and earlier (in the 9.6.x versions). The systemVersion() bug was just > fixed in LC 9.6.8. > > I'd like to ask if someone on Ventura (13.x.x) can run LC 9.6.7 or any 9.6.x > less than 9.6.8) and confirm that systemVersion() also reports 10.16 for > macOS Ventura - i.e. that the systemVersion() bug behaves the same way under > Ventura for recent versions of LC less than LC 9.6.8. > > Thank you to anyone that can do this test in advance, > > Paul Dupuis > Researchware > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
macOS Ventura (13.x.x)...
Is anyone out there in Livecode land running a developer beta of macOS Ventura (13.x.x)? If so, I am hoping you can perform a quick test: systemVersion() returns 10.16 for macOS Big Sur or Monterey under Livecode 9.6.7 and earlier (in the 9.6.x versions). The systemVersion() bug was just fixed in LC 9.6.8. I'd like to ask if someone on Ventura (13.x.x) can run LC 9.6.7 or any 9.6.x less than 9.6.8) and confirm that systemVersion() also reports 10.16 for macOS Ventura - i.e. that the systemVersion() bug behaves the same way under Ventura for recent versions of LC less than LC 9.6.8. Thank you to anyone that can do this test in advance, Paul Dupuis Researchware ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
