Re: PreOpenStack confusion
At 2:16 pm +1100 6/2/02, Michael J. Lew wrote: How do I set a clean-up operation to work when a stack is first opened, but not when I change to another stack such as a substack or even the documentation? My attempt using a preopenstack handler in the stack that I want to clean triggers whenever I open ANY stack, and of course fails because the false-triggering stack doesn't have the objects referred to in the clean-up routine. I want to (i) trigger the handler when the user first starts a particular stack, (ii) not have it operate when that stack is returned to from a different stack in a session, and (iii) only have it operate on the appropriate stack. These sound easy, but I can't see a way to do it without conditionals testing the name of the stack and a global holding information regarding whether the clean-up has been run already. Surely it is easier than that! Something like this in the stack script: local lcStarted on preOpenStack if the owner of the target is me then if not lcStarted myCleanUp ##your stuff here put true into lcStarted end if end if end preOpenStack The target of a preOpenStack handler is the card, so you need to compare its owner with the stack in question. Cheers Dave Cragg (Revolution -- It's got the power) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
insertion point
When I click into some of my unlocked fields to edit text, the insertion point (I mean the vertical bar used to select text) does not appear, although text is editable. This happens for some of my fields, not all of them (I don't understand why, since they are exactly the same). How can I have it back? Thanks Pierre ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchchunk problem?
At 9:41 pm +1100 6/2/02, David Vaughan wrote: The following script: put frog frog into avar put 1 into x put 1 into y get matchchunk(avar,F*g,x,y) put it x y returns true...so what happened to the chunk values expected in x and y ? What I was REALLY trying to test was whether it would return in x and y 1 4 or 1 9, but now I would love to know why I get neither (matchtext fails similarly). What have I done wrong? This regex stuff needs a twisted mind to master. :) Two problems with the script: 1. The regular expression F*g is trying to match any number of F's , including none followed by a g. This means if there is a g anywhere in the text, it will match and thus return true. I think you want F.*g (F followed by any number of characters followed by g) 2. To get values returned in the variables, you need to enclose the relevant part of the regex in parentheses. on mouseUp put frog frog into avar put 1 into x put 1 into y get matchchunk(avar,(F.*g),x,y) put it x y end mouseUp It returns true 1 9 Cheers Dave Cragg (Revolution --It's got the power) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:preOpenstack cleaning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to (i) trigger the handler when the user first starts a particular stack, (ii) not have it operate when that stack is returned to from a different stack in a session, and (iii) only have it operate on the appropriate stack. These sound easy, but I can't see a way to do it without conditionals testing the name of the stack and a global holding information regarding whether the clean-up has been run already. Surely it is easier than that! I would set a custom property of the stack and then set it back on closeStack (or shutdown... depending on how you want it to function) thus: On preOpenstack if the CustomProperties of me is "dirty" then do the cleaning stuff set the customProperties of me to "clean" end if end preOpenStack on closeStack --or shutdown if the customProperties of me is "clean" then set the customProperties of me to "dirty" end closeStack I've done similar things like this before. Hope it works for you.. kanpai! mark in Japan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Warning about Metacard Carbon
If you use Mac Classic Rev or metacard to create a stack, and then save it as a metacard stack.be careful! If you are running classic OS and both carbon and classic metacard engines are on the system, and you click directly on the stack, it will open it in metacard Carbon (when it should be classic) and doing so can wipe the stack clean. All controls and scripts simply disappear. So, of course back up everything, and make sure that metacard carbon is either not available or that you open classic stacks only via classic metacards open stack menu. Got all that?! mark mitchell japan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Preopenstack confusion
How do I set a clean-up operation to work when a stack is first opened, but not when I change to another stack such as a substack or even the documentation? My attempt using a preopenstack handler in the stack that I want to clean triggers whenever I open ANY stack, and of course fails because the false-triggering stack doesn't have the objects referred to in the clean-up routine. I want to (i) trigger the handler when the user first starts a particular stack, (ii) not have it operate when that stack is returned to from a different stack in a session, and (iii) only have it operate on the appropriate stack. These sound easy, but I can't see a way to do it without conditionals testing the name of the stack and a global holding information regarding whether the clean-up has been run already. Surely it is easier than that! Regards, -- Michael J. Lew Senior Lecturer Department of Pharmacology The University of Melbourne Parkville 3010 Victoria Australia Phone +613 8344 8304 ** New email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rotatable fields?
Terry, Is it possible to rotate a field, so the text is easier to read for people who have their screen upside-down? Just kiddin' about that last part. But can it be done? Or should this be a feature request on the improve-revolution list? Terry I don't have a clue if this can be done or not (probably not), but I too have needed this type of functionality in my apps. My workaround was to do this in a paint program, and import an image. However, this is no good if the text needs to change. Feature Request Absolutely! ~Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Preopenstack
The startup or shutdown handler should do this. They are not sent in the Rev developement. Only Standalone. When working on a project in developement I just have to type startup or shutdown in message box to see if everything is OK. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Preopenstack confusion
How do I set a clean-up operation to work when a stack is first opened, but not when I change to another stack such as a substack or even the documentation? Hi Michael, As others have already posted, you can set a global flag, field variable, or custom property to indicate whether the stack was previously opened during the session. Obviously, if you go for options 2 or 3, you have the problem of when and how to reset the field or property value: you can't reset it on closeStack. Since your desire is to monitor stack status throughout the session, a global will work best because it is reset automatically when the runtime engine quits. There is another option: lock messages before returning to the stack and script any needed preOpen/OpenStack functions into the script that returns to the stack. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Irregular Shaped Windows and Transparency
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 02:15 AM, Matt Denton wrote: I'm trying to find out if there is a relatively easy way to simulate or create irregularly shaped windows with transparency, similar to Audion on the Mac. I'm hoping there is a way to do it across most common platforms: Mac OS9, PC and again under OSX, I haven't seen it under Windows. Easy is a relative term. Custom window shapes can be done in MC/REV on OS9 (Odo WDEF) and Windows (RunRev external collection) but apparently there is not yet any way to handle this on OSX. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director, Tactile Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Irregular Shaped Windows and Transparency
Scott Rossi wrote: Custom window shapes can be done in MC/REV on OS9 (Odo WDEF) and Windows (RunRev external collection) but apparently there is not yet any way to handle this on OSX. Interesting. Do you know if this supports levels of transparency or just one bit masks? -- Troy RPSystems www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Irregular Shaped Windows and Transparency
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 10:20 AM, Troy Rollins wrote: Custom window shapes can be done in MC/REV on OS9 (Odo WDEF) and Windows (RunRev external collection) but apparently there is not yet any way to handle this on OSX. Interesting. Do you know if this supports levels of transparency or just one bit masks? Until OSX (and possibly XP), no system has ever supported higher than 1 bit masking, as far as I know. Even Audion on OS9 used a hack of clipping portions of the desktop within the player window and then placing a shadow graphic on the clipped region to make it appear as if the player cast dropshadows with variable translucency (8 bits). But it still used a one bit mask. So the answer to your question is, one bit masks only for pre OSX and XP systems. We'll have to wait and see what is possible on OSX and XP. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director, Tactile Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
popUp btn
Hello I have a popUp btn. I've created a group for this btn with background behavior set to true. I have many cards in the stack and the popUp is on each card. The user chooses an item in one card and another one in another card. So when the menu is changed on one card, he is also changed in all the cds I'd like the choosen item would be specific for each card and thus may be different from one cd to another. How can I proceed ?? -- Greetings. Yves COPPE Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Preopenstack confusion
Thanks for the responses to my query. I have used a combination of several of the suggestions: a global holding the has_been_cleaned flag (because it will automatically expire at the end of a session) and empty preOpenStack handlers in the substacks (because my father always liked belt-and-braces approaches). Sorry for the double posting. I sent the first to a miss-typed address and didn't expect it to get there. Regards -- Michael J. Lew Senior Lecturer Department of Pharmacology The University of Melbourne Parkville 3010 Victoria Australia Phone +613 8344 8304 ** New email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Hierarchical menus
One simple question: How do you create sub-items in Hierarchical button menus. I've tried return and tab, but tab tabs out of the field. What's the secret? -- Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchchunk problem?
Dave Thanks for that. The regex part is no problem. Not immediately finding the form of it I assumed it was primitive DOS-like stuff (I should have read your sign-off line!) but the bit about enclosing it in parentheses to capture the values was the crucial part I missed. Thanks again. David On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 12:05 , Dave Cragg wrote: At 9:41 pm +1100 6/2/02, David Vaughan wrote: The following script: put frog frog into avar put 1 into x put 1 into y get matchchunk(avar,F*g,x,y) put it x y returns true...so what happened to the chunk values expected in x and y ? What I was REALLY trying to test was whether it would return in x and y 1 4 or 1 9, but now I would love to know why I get neither (matchtext fails similarly). What have I done wrong? This regex stuff needs a twisted mind to master. :) Two problems with the script: 1. The regular expression F*g is trying to match any number of F's , including none followed by a g. This means if there is a g anywhere in the text, it will match and thus return true. I think you want F.*g (F followed by any number of characters followed by g) 2. To get values returned in the variables, you need to enclose the relevant part of the regex in parentheses. on mouseUp put frog frog into avar put 1 into x put 1 into y get matchchunk(avar,(F.*g),x,y) put it x y end mouseUp It returns true 1 9 Cheers Dave Cragg (Revolution --It's got the power) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Employee Database Tutorial broken on OS X?
At 7:47 PM -0800 2/5/2002, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Neighter does it work on Mac OS classic 9.2.2 here. Confirmed this bug in the Employee Database. It will be fixed in the next beta. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Employee Database Tutorial broken on OS X?
At 12:17 AM -0800 2/5/2002, Dan Shafer wrote: First, there is a mongo button covering up the majority of the data entry fields. I can't for the life of me figure out what it is or why it's there but it sure makes the stack ugly and almost unusable. It looks like there was a problem with the geometry management in that stack - the button is supposed to be to the right of the name and job title fields, but instead it was getting moved over when the template stack was cloned. Oops. Second, there's no place for pictures. The button is where the pictures go. Finally, if I have a few new employees defined and then I import from a text file, it clobbers all but the first employee I've added without so much as a by-your-leave or a confirmation dialog. This was a bug in the import script. (It wasn't actually deleting the records from the stack, just from the list.) Thanks for the reports. These should be fixed in 1.1.1b2. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using other languages (Java, Perl, Python, etc) in Rev
At 4:46 PM -0800 2/5/2002, Jim Witte wrote: Is there any way to extend the scripting architecture of Revolution to support completely different languages than Transcript, specifically bytecode languages like Java, Perl (at least P6 based on Parrot), and maybe Python (I'm not sure if it's bytecode based)? You can run scripts in other languages (using shell or launch). And on Macs, Revolution supports OSA, so you can run scripts written in any OSA language (AppleScript, Frontier, Perl, Javascript, there may be others) from within your application without starting up an interpreter. However, if you're asking whether there's a way to plug in other languages so they can use Rev's built-in commands, directly manipulate objects, and so on, no, there isn't. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Hierarchical menus
At 4:10 PM -0800 2/6/2002, Tim wrote: One simple question: How do you create sub-items in Hierarchical button menus. I've tried return and tab, but tab tabs out of the field. What's the secret? It looks like this is a limitation in the Properties palette - I'll check on it and put in a bug report, but meanwhile, you were right that tab is what you want. As a workaround, you can use something like this in the message box: put tab before line 2 of button My Menu -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rotatable fields?
I also recently had a need for this. I wanted to rotate a button 90 degrees and have the label rotate with it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. This would be a very useful feature (fields too, obviously) but currently it appears the only thing you can rotate is an image object. As was mentioned before, this will work but it makes it a lot of work to update the text (or background color). Please put this on the feature request list! Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Looks like HyperCard
Hi. I'm new to Revolution and I created a simple stack that has the Appearance Manager look in the editor, but when I run it by itself (double-click on it when Rev is not open) or when I compile it as a standalone, it looks like a HyperCard stack (white background, no modern buttons, etc.). The funny thing is this did not happen initially whith another stack I made, or at least I don't think it did. What am I missing? Dave Meilstrup ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looks like HyperCard
Dave Meilstrup wrote: Hi. I'm new to Revolution and I created a simple stack that has the Appearance Manager look in the editor, but when I run it by itself (double-click on it when Rev is not open) or when I compile it as a standalone, it looks like a HyperCard stack (white background, no modern buttons, etc.). The funny thing is this did not happen initially whith another stack I made, or at least I don't think it did. What am I missing? This has come up several times in this group. The gist is this - double-clicking a stack opens it, sans the Rev UI. Open the stack in Rev, or create a stand-alone, and all is well. Basically, double-clicking a stack which is not a stand-alone, opens it in Rev in some strange way that no one actually wants to do. ;) -- Troy RPSystems www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Looks like HyperCard
At 8:56 PM -0800 2/6/2002, Troy Rollins wrote: This has come up several times in this group. The gist is this - double-clicking a stack opens it, sans the Rev UI. Open the stack in Rev, or create a stand-alone, and all is well. Basically, double-clicking a stack which is not a stand-alone, opens it in Rev in some strange way that no one actually wants to do. ;) Well, that's not exactly true. ;-) It's a useful mode for testing before you build your actual standalone...but it's pretty much the same thing you get with Suspend Revolution UI in the Development menu. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
