Re: Rotatable fields?

2002-02-07 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)

on 2/6/02 11:06 AM, Klaus Major at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting idea. What's the purpose?
 You can rotate text of course, like any other drawn thing,
 
 Would you like to share this secret to this lovely community, please ;-)
 
 (In case you are not talking about creating text with the
 draw-tools (:-) in MC/RR...)
--
Yeah, sure, I mean text with the draw tools. Of course, if someone really
HAS to rotate fields, they can always set the monitor on its side. We did
that for a bed-ridden disabled person whose very limited motor functions
only worked on one side, so she laid on that side (couldn't use it anyway)
most of the time. We positioned the monitor on its side where she could see
it easily, gave her a trackball, and let her go crazy.

Best regards,
Ken N.

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Is there a way to permit an oject to be dragged in rev and some sort of dropped upon message capability

2002-02-07 Thread Gary Dennis

I have a series of objects that I would like for the user to be able to drag
to another area of the active card.


Thanks...




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Re: Rotatable fields?

2002-02-07 Thread Ken Norris (dialup)

on 2/6/02 5:33 PM, Howard Bornstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also recently had a need for this. I wanted to rotate a button 90
 degrees and have the label rotate with it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work.
--
Why do you need to rotate the actual button? Just rotate a graphic under a
transparent button.

HTH...best regards,
Ken N.

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AppleScript functions made easy

2002-02-07 Thread Terry Vogelaar

In HyperCard I had a stack with a lot of AppleScript functions. Because RR
treads AppleScript differently, I tried to make a function which may come in
handy for others as well.

The basic idea is that you store the AS-functions in a separate file; a
normal AppleScript-file. No custom props or fields needed, so you don't have
to work with a copy of the script, but you can work with the original, which
saves time when the AppleScript function is still in development.

Then you must know the path and the name of the function in the file. You
call it with:

get AppleScriptFunction(nameOfFunction, path:to:file, 1, 2, three,
four)

Mind that on Mac OS classic you need to use colons in the path (2nd param),
while on Mac OS X you must use slashes.

Then in the stack-script you can put:

function AppleScriptFunction aFun, aFile
  put set theScript to load script (alias quoteaFilequote)return \
  tell theScript to aFun( into ASfunc
  if paramcount()  2 then
repeat with e = 3 to paramcount()
  put param(e) into f
  if param(e) is a number then
put f  , after ASfunc
  else
put quote  f  quote  , after ASfunc
  end if
end repeat
  end if
  put ) into last char of ASfunc
  do ASfunc as applescript
end AppleScriptFunction

Now you can call any function with any number of parameters. The value that
is returned by the AppleScript-function is returned by AppleScriptFunction
as well.

Terry

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Re: AppleScript functions made easy

2002-02-07 Thread yves COPPE

In HyperCard I had a stack with a lot of AppleScript functions. Because RR
treads AppleScript differently, I tried to make a function which may come in
handy for others as well.

The basic idea is that you store the AS-functions in a separate file; a
normal AppleScript-file. No custom props or fields needed, so you don't have
to work with a copy of the script, but you can work with the original, which
saves time when the AppleScript function is still in development.

Then you must know the path and the name of the function in the file. You
call it with:

get AppleScriptFunction(nameOfFunction, path:to:file, 1, 2, three,
four)

Mind that on Mac OS classic you need to use colons in the path (2nd param),
while on Mac OS X you must use slashes.

Then in the stack-script you can put:

function AppleScriptFunction aFun, aFile
   put set theScript to load script (alias quoteaFilequote)return \
   tell theScript to aFun( into ASfunc
   if paramcount()  2 then
 repeat with e = 3 to paramcount()
   put param(e) into f
   if param(e) is a number then
 put f  , after ASfunc
   else
 put quote  f  quote  , after ASfunc
   end if
 end repeat
   end if
   put ) into last char of ASfunc
   do ASfunc as applescript
end AppleScriptFunction

Now you can call any function with any number of parameters. The value that
is returned by the AppleScript-function is returned by AppleScriptFunction
as well.

Terry





Thank you, really very useful !
-- 
Greetings.

Yves COPPE

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Re: Looks like HyperCard

2002-02-07 Thread Troy Rollins

Jeanne A. E. DeVoto  wrote:

 Well, that's not exactly true. ;-)
 
 It's a useful mode for testing before you build your actual
 standalone...but it's pretty much the same thing you get with Suspend
 Revolution UI in the Development menu.

Well, OK. For me alone, applications which are meant to have a UI, but
don't, have little value. I must be missing some secret developer only
value to this feature.  ;)
-- 
Troy
RPSystems
www.rpsystems.net

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Record Sound on Windows machine

2002-02-07 Thread Kim L. Smith








I have been trying to record sound using Rev 1.1.1b but have
not been able to get anything except static. I have the latest version of Quicktime installed. Have tried it on
Windows ME and Win XP Pro OSs. Can you
give me any clues of which codec, etc. that I should use? Also what filetype is produces using this command? Is it a QT movie?
Thanks



==

Mr. Kim L. Smith

Humanities Research Center

3060 JKHB

Brigham Young University

Provo, UT 84602

Office: (801) 422-7426

Fax: (801) 422-0304












Re: Looks like HyperCard

2002-02-07 Thread Scott Raney

On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeanne A. E. DeVoto  wrote:
 
  Well, that's not exactly true. ;-)
  
  It's a useful mode for testing before you build your actual
  standalone...but it's pretty much the same thing you get with Suspend
  Revolution UI in the Development menu.
 
 Well, OK. For me alone, applications which are meant to have a UI, but
 don't, have little value. I must be missing some secret developer only
 value to this feature.  ;)

What you seem to be missing is that stacks *are* applications.  Not
having them run as applications when you double click on them would be
roughly equivalent to double clicking on most executables on your
system starting up Codewarrior if you happened to have that installed
(i.e., just because it was produced with that tool doesn't make it a
document of that tool).  And of course anyone that uses MetaCard to
build custom utilties for themselves or their companies will be very
disappointed to have the whole development environment start up each
time they ran one of these tools.

Nevertheless, a way open the development environment together with the
stack (probably by holding down the control key when double-clicking
or something) is planned for a future release.
  Regards,
Scott

 -- 
 Troy
 RPSystems
 www.rpsystems.net


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MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that...

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Re: Looks like HyperCard

2002-02-07 Thread Terry Vogelaar

Troy Rollins wrote:
 This has come up several times in this group. The gist is this -
 double-clicking a stack opens it, sans the Rev UI. Open the stack in Rev, or
 create a stand-alone, and all is well. Basically, double-clicking a stack
 which is not a stand-alone, opens it in Rev in some strange way that no one
 actually wants to do.  ;)

Jeanne replied:
 Well, that's not exactly true. ;-)
 
 It's a useful mode for testing before you build your actual
 standalone...but it's pretty much the same thing you get with Suspend
 Revolution UI in the Development menu.

I thought Troy was right, but Jeanne is the only known exception, so he
wasn't speaking the truth, because he said no one actually want it. ;-)

I think doubleclicking a stack should start up the Rev UI as well. When
someone wants to test, he/she can use the Suspend UI command.

Terry


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Re: insertion point

2002-02-07 Thread John


On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 07:13 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:

 On 6/2/02 11:44 am, Pierre Delain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I click into some of my unlocked fields to edit text, the 
 insertion
 point (I mean the vertical bar used to select text) does not appear,
 although text is editable. This happens for some of my fields, not all 
 of
 them (I don't understand why, since they are exactly the same).
 How can I have it back?

 Do you have objects over the fields?


I  had this difficulty also with 1.1.1B1 on OSX.  Although I am sure 
(positive as a matter of fact) I did not place an image over the entire 
surface of the card, one was there.  Deleting it fixed the problem.  
Question is, how did the image get there?  Also, clicking on the field 
selected the field and not the image that was over it (I assume it was 
over it).  Clicking on the card selected the image so I could delete it.

John Miskimins

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More hierarchical menu problems

2002-02-07 Thread Tim

Hi,

I have a button menu with 3 items and two of those items contain 2 sub-items
each.  The script is fairly straightfoward:

On menuPick
switch tChosen
  case item1
statements
break
  case item2
   statements
break
  case item3
  statements
break
  case sub-item1a
  statements
break
  case sub-item1b
statements
break
case sub-item2a
statements
break
case sub-item2b
statements
break
  end switch
end menuPick

When I select any sub-items I get statements executed as though I selected
some other items. The hierarchical menu is configured with returns and tabs
and looks OK. Could this be a bug?
-- 
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Re: More hierarchical menu problems

2002-02-07 Thread Shao Sean

it returns the menu item and the sub item.. example:

File
New  Folder /N
File

would return New|Folder
(check the actual delimiter though).. you would just need to change the
delimiter and grab the required item

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Re: More hierarchical menu problems

2002-02-07 Thread Tim

On 2/8/02 1:43 AM, yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have a button menu with 3 items and two of those items contain 2 sub-items
 each.  The script is fairly straightfoward:
 
 On menuPick
 switch tChosen
   case item1
 statements
 break
   case item2
statements
 break
   case item3
   statements
 break
   case sub-item1a
   statements
 break
   case sub-item1b
 statements
 break
 case sub-item2a
 statements
 break
 case sub-item2b
 statements
 break
   end switch
 end menuPick
 
 When I select any sub-items I get statements executed as though I selected
 some other items. The hierarchical menu is configured with returns and tabs
 and looks OK. Could this be a bug?
 --
 Tim
 
 
 
 
 
 When you select a subitem, you must write :
 
 case Item x|subitem ax
 statements
 break
 case Item x|subitem bx
 statements
 break
 
 The parent menu must be written followed by | and the subitem menu
 
 Good luck.

Thanks to all. A combination of chant, secret handshakes, and code
correction fixed the problem.
-- 
Tim

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Re: Rotatable fields?

2002-02-07 Thread Ken Norris

on 2/7/02 2:30 AM, Shao Sean at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, sure, I mean text with the draw tools.
 how does one draw text (not using fields, labels, etc).. i'm trying to
 find something that works like the REALbasic graphic object so I mix and
 match text and images with greater control then using a field does..
--
Well, guess what? I forgot Rev has no text tool, although I have no idea why
this is so. Because they seem so basic, I probably won't use Rev's paint
tools for much beyond overall size and position ideas, maybe simple
animation. I'll create the 'real' detailed graphics in software designed for
the purpose.

You can draw text in just about any paint program: Photoshop, corelDRAW,
etc., including HyperCard's Color Tools. Rotate it, flip it, filter it,
scale it, color it, mix and match with your other pictures, whatever you
like, and import it to RR as a .gif or .jpg. I assume you can't have it as a
scriptable graphic 'object' that way, though.

Let's ask:

Can you import a .gif image and place it in a graphic object? Or in a button
icon?

Best regards,
Ken N.



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Re: Rotatable fields?

2002-02-07 Thread Shao Sean

 Well, guess what? I forgot Rev has no text tool, although I have no idea
why
mm.. this royally bites.. i guess i'll have to come up with something to do
what should be built-in.. wish me luck ;-)

 You can draw text in just about any paint program: Photoshop, corelDRAW,
yeah, the only thing is the data is to be created on the fly.. there is no
preset data, there is no concept of what the data could be (other than text
and images.. the actual content is unknown)..

 Can you import a .gif image and place it in a graphic object? Or in a
button
 icon?
i believe you can for both.. if you are asking if that is good for my needs,
see above..



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Re: Looks like HyperCard

2002-02-07 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto

At 11:30 AM -0800 2/7/2002, Terry Vogelaar wrote:
I thought Troy was right, but Jeanne is the only known exception, so he
wasn't speaking the truth, because he said no one actually want it. ;-)

I think doubleclicking a stack should start up the Rev UI as well. When
someone wants to test, he/she can use the Suspend UI command.

Well, I tend to agree with this myself, if only because a stack under
development is a document that belongs to Rev, and double-clicking the
document is the usual way you start up an application to work on that doc.
(And there's no way to load the development environment after the fact
without quitting and restarting, then re-opening the stack you're working
on.) I think this capability is planned for a future release of the engine.

My point was just that there *is* a use for it. ;-)

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