Re: Boxes, Grids, Snap to Objects
Hi Ian, I don't like the grab command, it seems to me program flow doesn't stop, i.e. Grab me Beep Will beep immediately even though you're still dragging the thing around the screen. This means you'll need to use a mouseup handler to do the new location stuff instead. I find it much better to hide the cursor, and set loc of the object needing dragging to the mouseloc, this is done in a repeat while the mouse is down loop and lets me do clever things, I can check if the mouseloc is within the bounds of another object, and if so hilite that object, etc. It's much more flexible. ... maybe you missed some of the previous posts, where experts (!) are advising to not poll the mouse-state. It is far more efficient to use the mousemove function. Like this one: local ok_to_drag on mousedown put true into ok_to_drag end mousedown ##set flag... on mouseup put false into ok_to_drag en mouseup ##unset flag on mousemove x,y ## this is the advantage of the mousemove funcion, ## the loch and locv of the mouse are being passed as ## parameters in this function... if ok_to_drag then ##... your stuff here... end if end mousemove Hope this helps... Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Drawing tools in standalone
I cannot seem to use the drawing tools in a stand-alone, and I am wondering if this is at all possible. Since the tool palette is really part of Revolution, maybe this is not intended to be functional in a user stand-alone? I am simply trying to draw some bargraphs from my script (which works fine in my stack while in the editor), but fails in my stand-alone at the point where it selects any tools. Thanks, JR ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening Acrobat Files
Hi Peter, I'm trying to get my Rev app to open Acrobat Reader on both Win and Mac. In both cases I want it to open Acrobat reader if it's not already running, otherwise to use the currently running application (default behaviour for Mac apps, but not for Win apps). My questions are: 1) how do I open Acrobat Reader under Windows, only when necessary for a given PDF file? If I query the registry and then use the launch command, this will open a fresh copy of Acrobat Reader for every file I try to open I think, instead of re-using any currently open copy of the Reader! Sorry, dunno... But this has been on the list some time ago. you could find it in the archives... 2) how do I get the path to Acrobat Reader on the Mac into a Rev variable so I can use the launch command? (more generally, how do I get results back from an AppleScript script?) I have been using the Externals Collection but I'm hitting a brick wall with this, especially since it doesn't work under Mac OS X! I'm trying to find another way that avoids the need to use the Externals. Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Did you check the new (!) and free externals for Mac (AND OS X) on the RR website. They do exactly what you are looking for... :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening Acrobat Files
Hi Klaus Thanks for the feedback. 1) how do I open Acrobat Reader under Windows, only when necessary for a given PDF file? If I query the registry and then use the launch command, this will open a fresh copy of Acrobat Reader for every file I try to open I think, instead of re-using any currently open copy of the Reader! Sorry, dunno... But this has been on the list some time ago. you could find it in the archives... The list shows how to find the application but not how to open additional files within the currently running application! 2) how do I get the path to Acrobat Reader on the Mac into a Rev variable so I can use the launch command? (more generally, how do I get results back from an AppleScript script?) Did you check the new (!) and free externals for Mac (AND OS X) on the RR website. They do exactly what you are looking for... :-) Well, yes and no! The externals allow you to find the name of the application for use in a launch command but don't help with the problem of opening an additional PDF file once the Reader is open. So, using the Externals for the Mac and querying the registry for Win, I now have the following situations. With Windows: a) launch PDF file with Acrobat Reader, with Reader currently NOT running - opens Reader and displays PDF file b) launch PDF file with Acrobat Reader, with Reader currently running - opens fresh copy of Reader and displays PDF file - now have TWO copies of the Reader running! With Mac: a) launch PDF file with Acrobat Reader, with Reader currently NOT running - opens Reader and displays PDF file b) launch PDF file with Acrobat Reader, with Reader currently running - nothing happens, it won't open a new Reader (which is good), but also won't open 2nd PDF file either (which is bad)! The only solution I have is to kill any currently running Acrobat Reader and then allow a new one to open. However this is not very neat, slow (the user has to wait for program launch each time) and doesn't allow the user to have more than one PDF file open at a time! The old MetaCard Externals Collection worked just as I liked it for both Mac and Win, only opening the application if it wasn't already running, otherwise opening additional documents within the currently running application. One other comment/question about the Externals - how do I include BOTH Mac OS Classic and Mac OS X versions of the external functions for building standalone programs? Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)870 052 7576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Wordwrapping formattedWidth/Height
This one is silly, but I still need to figure it out. A field has wordwrapping on (dontWrap is off). The width is set to a certain width. Then it is simple to get the formattedHeight. But now the other way around. I need to know what the width of a field must be to have a field with a certain height. Should I loop through every possible width, see what the formattedHeight is and stop the loop when the requested formattedHeight is found? Or is there a smarter way? FormattedWidth doesn't help much here, because it depends on the real width of the field. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
At 6:22 AM -0500 2/19/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot seem to use the drawing tools in a stand-alone, and I am wondering if this is at all possible. Since the tool palette is really part of Revolution, maybe this is not intended to be functional in a user stand-alone? I am simply trying to draw some bargraphs from my script (which works fine in my stack while in the editor), but fails in my stand-alone at the point where it selects any tools. Have you considered using graphics (of style rectangle)? It would allow you to set the fill, linewidth, etc. very easily. regards, Geoff ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Detecting Network Running
I'm trying to figure out a method of checking whether the currently running standalone app developed in Rev is running from a local or network drive. I want to be able to licence my software separately for local vs network use. Anyone got any suggestions for both Mac and Windows? Not both, but one: on the Mac, you can use AppleScript to ask the Finder to inspect the local volume attribute, eg tell application Finder get the local volume of disk Macintosh HD end tell On Windows... no idea. Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Ben - one down, only one to go! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)870 052 7576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
John Klaus has the way it should be done, with a palette, but Mike Mitchell (cowhead) today and myself on the 18th in response to Mike Brown published essentially identical scripts which allow you to choose any tool and then return to the browse tool when you wish. Our method is not best practice in that it polls the mouseLoc but at least it does so only twice a second (configurable in the Send) rather than continuously, and will thus do for a quick or one-off stack. regards David On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 10:45 , Klaus Major wrote: Hi John, I cannot seem to use the drawing tools in a stand-alone, and I am wondering if this is at all possible. Since the tool palette is really part of Revolution, maybe this is not intended to be functional in a user stand-alone? I am simply trying to draw some bargraphs from my script (which works fine in my stack while in the editor), but fails in my stand-alone at the point where it selects any tools. Thanks, JR yes, this is a bit tricky ;-) It is possible, but you have to consider this: It is only pssible to change the tool with the browse tool... ??? :-) The conclusion is to provide a stack that has the browse tool as a default tool, no matter what tool is really selected. So your tools-stack HAS to be a palette or a modeless. It won't work without an extra tools-palette or modeless stack. I would prefer palette. (Do not forget to reset the tool when closing that palette ;-) on closestack choose browse tool end closestack Otherwise you are... ehmm.. lost... That's the secret ;-) Drop a line if you need furhter info... Regards from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: Drawing tools in standalone
I cannot seem to use the drawing tools in a stand-alone... Have you considered using graphics (of style rectangle)? It would allow you to set the fill, linewidth, etc. very easily. regards, Geoff Good idea...definitely a 'Think Different solution! ;-) JR ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
Hello, Just a litle question about the Rev 1.1.1 update: will it be free for the Rev 1.1 registred users ? Dominique Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Will the script editing quirks be fixed?
Ian Puzzling. I can replicate your problem only by positioning the cursor at the start of the second line (before the P in Put 2 into y in your example), in which case the behaviour is hardly surprising. If I position the cursor at the end of the prior line, after the x and press return and on repeat (which looks like your example and is what I ordinarily do for any new line) then behaviour is perfectly normal, placing the closure statement on a line before the next existing line. These seem reasonable behaviours, and since they happen about where you are typing I am a little surprised you do not notice it at the time. I am quite happy for the Rev people not to spend any time on this issue before finalising 1.1.1, which in beta form has proven more stable than the 1.1.0 release. regards David On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, at 09:30 , Ian Summerfield wrote: Am I the only one suffering from the problem of the auto completion of things like on repeat putting the end repeat before another line: Put 1 into x Put 2 into y If I type on repeat between the two: Put 1 into x On repeat Put 2 into y Revolution puts in: Put 1 into x On repeat End repeatput2 into y It's lost me ages trouble shooting, often I don't detect it did it, it's worse when it's the end statement for a handler, I get: On newproc End newprocon nexthandler Which now means nextHandler fails to exist! I worried me to read 1.1.1 seems close to release, I would have thought there are zillions of quirks like this to fix first! Should we have a few more beta's? I keep telling myself all will be fixed when it goes final so I should live with it. Will it be much more stable? I'm using the OS X release, really because it crashes too often and recovery is fast in X! -i- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Boxes, Grids, Snap to Objects
Roger This is not comprehensive, in that I tackled only to the else statement, the drag, but I am sure you can have another go at move if need be. I recognise also that you have not dealt with overlapping yet, but revise what you have in the light of comments and try to extend the approach. You are welcome back for more help of course. Actual comments below. regards David On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 11:06 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My latest programming adventure requires the following: 1 - A rectangle graphic that represents the boundery. 800 x 500 pixels in size. 2 - Several (3-8) smaller rectangles (or buttons) that must be moved using the browse tool. Various Sizes, but must snap to a grid or other objects. 3 - The smaller rectangles should MOVE if clicked near the top left edge, but are not allowed outside the large rectangle. 4 - The smaller rectangles can be RESIZED if clicked near the bottom right, but are not allowed outside the large rectangle. 5 - The smaller rectangles are not allowed to overlap each other. My script follows... I have achieved some of the requirements, but I would like some guidance from the experts (that's you). Thank you in advance for any suggestions. ~Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- on mouseDown set the cursor to plus set the numberFormat to 0.0 -- not sure why set the itemDelimiter to , -- It already is when you enter the script. Better to change it only when you need to. put the Width of me into WidthOfBox put the Height of me into HeightOfBox -- You do not use these variables again, but they have a use...see below. -- Determine the section of me that was clicked if item 1 of the mouseloc = (item 1 of the bottomRight of me)-((the width of me)/2) then grab me -- Move me put the rect of me into myNewRect -- Get the old size -- Once you have newRect, it is very slightly quicker to use it rather than repeatedly getting the property, hence: put item q of myNewRect into myLeft -- etc put item 1 of the rect of me into myLeft put item 2 of the rect of me into myTop put item 3 of the rect of me into myRight put item 4 of the rect of me into myBottom -- but why bother, if you never use them again anyway? Just handle myNewRect and -- the box widths which you captured up the top. Read on. -- The following can also be done by reference to the variable rather than repeated property gets. -- However, better to do it outside mouseDown (e.g. on openCard or a preOpen) since you do not -- indicate that it changes at any time, and this is being executed repeatedly on mouseStillDown. put the rect of graphic theBigBox into myBigBox put item 1 of the rect of graphic theBigBox into BigBoxLeft put item 2 of the rect of graphic theBigBox into BigBoxTop put item 3 of the rect of graphic theBigBox into BigBoxRight put item 4 of the rect of graphic theBigBox into BigBoxBottom if myLeft (BigBoxLeft+5) then put BigBoxLeft into item 1 of myNewRect -- this and the corresponding next statement will change the size of the object because you are -- changing only the top and left. Set the top and left as you do but then set the right and bottom by -- adding WidthOfBox and HeightOfBox to items 1 and 2 of myNewRect to create items 3 and 4. end if if myTop (BigBoxTop+5) then put BigBoxTop into item 2 of myNewRect end if set the rect of me to myNewRect -- Set the new size -- all yours for the next half... :-) else -- Change the Size of me put the rect of me into myNewRect -- Get the old size put round((item 1 of the mouseLoc)/10) into myLeft put round((item 2 of the mouseLoc)/10) into myTop put myLeft*10 into myLeft put myTop*10 into myTop put myLeft into item 3 of myNewRect put myTop into item 4 of myNewRect set the rect of me to myNewRect -- Set the new size end if end mouseDown on mouseStillDown mouseDown end mouseStillDown ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Will the script editing quirks be fixed?
Am I the only one suffering from the problem of the auto completion of things like on repeat putting the end repeat before another line: Put 1 into x Put 2 into y If I type on repeat between the two: Put 1 into x On repeat Put 2 into y Revolution puts in: Put 1 into x On repeat End repeatput2 into y The problem is actually a handy feature which looks like a bug when you don't know what happens. If you type repeat and a return, the end repeat is automatically filled in, because the repeat has to end somewhere. The solution is very simple: don't position the cursor before line two, but after line one. Then you begin with a return and then you type on repeat. BTW, don't you just mean repeat? Because when you write on repeat, you are making a new handler called repeat, while you probably just want to have something repeated... Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
Just a litle question about the Rev 1.1.1 update: will it be free for the Rev 1.1 registred users ? After registering, you will have ALL the updates free for a whole year. After that year, your license will work for the versions released during that year, but new versions will not work with your serial number. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Missing hidden characters and htmlText
At 12:18 AM -0800 2/19/2002, Matt Denton wrote: I can't find a way to keep the 'hidden' character of a field that has the imageSource set for it. I think you'll find this is fixed in 1.1.1b1. (The hidden character, in the htmlText, is replaced by a tag of the form img src=imageSource here.) -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drawing tools in standalone
At 8:39 PM -0800 2/19/2002, Terry Vogelaar wrote: Just a litle question about the Rev 1.1.1 update: will it be free for the Rev 1.1 registred users ? After registering, you will have ALL the updates free for a whole year. Please note that this applies to the Professional edition, but not the Standard edition. In answer to the original question, yes: 1.1.1 will be a free upgrade to all 1.1 license holders. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
