Re: creating an installer?

2002-04-29 Thread Mark Talluto


 Has anyone created an installer using Rev? It shouldn't be that 
 difficult,
 right? Just add a couple of aliases to the start-menu and the desktop 
 and
 copy the folder to the right place..? But I've found that I would need
 specialfolderpath(programs) to find the location of the 
 programs-folder.
 Is that possible to add to Rev?
 Or is it smarter to use another app like Wise or Installshield for this?
 Anyone know of a free installler-app?
 thanks,
 /Niklas Almesjˆ

For the PC you can use:  install maker from clickteam.com

It is free!

-Mark Talluto

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Re: Open driver?

2002-04-29 Thread Dar Scott


On Sunday, April 28, 2002, at 11:46 PM, Michael J. Lew wrote:

 Actually, I would like to use the iMic as a analog to digital 
 converter. I need to read the data values rather than record the 
 audio.

You could try writing out the file with the record command and then 
reading in the file.  Don't use any compression.  This will require 
reading up on QuickTime, I think.  (Or maybe you can figure out the 
format just by looking.)

Audio input normally does not have any 0 Hz (DC) response.  This is 
fine if you are looking at Morse code tones or maybe engine noise, 
but crumby if you are looking at power supply voltages or strain 
gauge amplifiers from scales.  In other words, normally audio only 
measures AC.  However, I don't know the particulars of iMic.

Dar Scott


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Re: creating an installer?

2002-04-29 Thread Extensor

Hey Mark, thanks for the info on install maker!
I'm currently distributing my games using self-extracting winzip.

Extensor

- Original Message -
From: Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: creating an installer?


 
  Has anyone created an installer using Rev? It shouldn't be that
  difficult,
  right? Just add a couple of aliases to the start-menu and the desktop
  and
  copy the folder to the right place..? But I've found that I would need
  specialfolderpath(programs) to find the location of the
  programs-folder.
  Is that possible to add to Rev?
  Or is it smarter to use another app like Wise or Installshield for this?
  Anyone know of a free installler-app?
  thanks,
  /Niklas Almesjˆ

 For the PC you can use:  install maker from clickteam.com

 It is free!

 -Mark Talluto

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Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #366 - 10 msgs

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Saylor

Kevin,

After typing http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines11; into my browser
I see several engines there (thanks Kevin), but I still do not see the
OS-X engine...  

Can someone please categorically answer the following questions:

Is the OS-X engine the Revolution application itself?...  Every
attempt I've made to determine this has failed.
If not, where is it?..   Every attempt I've made to locate it has failed.
If so, can I use it as a general-purpose scripting tool like I can the
darwin engine? Every attempt I've made to do so has failed.
Why isn't Darwin one of the targets when you build a distribution?... 
Is RevDB supported under darwin, in particular the Valentina database? 
When I attempt to execute the following script, it aborts with a signal
10.  Commenting out the revDB_Connect allows the script to execute

#!/usr/local/Revolution/components/engines/Darwin
on startup
put test.vdb into theDatabase
write theDatabase  linefeed to stdout
put revdb_connect(Valentina,,theDatabase,) into gConnectionID
write gConnectionID  linefeed to stdout
end startup

Switching the first line to:

#!/usr/local/Revolution/Revolution

Just gives me a whole bunch of garbage when I try to execute it...


I did a little bit of research since someone mention CFM and Mach-O at
one point and I think I now understand that it seems like Mach-O is
darwin related executables/libraries and CFM is OS-X related
executables/libraries However, I have seen some examples of calling
one from the other so it seems like it is possible (?) -- anbd others
where it seems like it's not possible (?)...  Is there some technical
reason why the Valentina CFM library included with Revolution could not
be used from the Revolution Darwin engine?.

(Tuviah, I know you said you would look into a couple of those when you
got the chance, I am not trying to pressure you just clarify my questions
and point out some additional information I happened across)...



- Greg

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Re: setting htmltext makes field appear disabled

2002-04-29 Thread Marco Schönenberger



I just set the htmltext of a standard scrolling field for the first time
since I upgraded to the latest v111. When I do so the field takes the
appearance of a disabled field. The backcolor becomes light grey and black
text becomes a dark grey.
As soon as I click in the field to edit, and give it focus, the field
resumes the normal appearance of an editable field, ie the backcolor turns
white and the black text becomes black again.
I'm using release 1.1.1 on macOS

I've already reported this off-list together with another htmltext-bug. I
think the problem was introduced with 1.1.1b2 and happens on my Mac with OS
9.2.2 as well as on Windows NT.

My work-around:
After setting the htmltext I add the following lines:
put return after fld x
delete last char of fld x


Marco

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Re: creating an installer?

2002-04-29 Thread Stephen Barncard

If it's a Mac installer you need, the Stuffit Installermaker is one 
of the best I've seen.
http://www.stuffit.com/installermaker/index.html   free demo

4D makes one:  (free demo)
http://www.4D.com/4DLINK/4DACTION/WEB_GetForm/4dinstallmakerdemo.shtml/init

many others listed at tracker.com:
http://www.versiontracker.com/mp/new_search.m?productDB=macmode=QuickOS_Filter=MacOSsearch=Installer


Has anyone created an installer using Rev? It shouldn't be that difficult,
right? Just add a couple of aliases to the start-menu and the desktop and
copy the folder to the right place..? But I've found that I would need
specialfolderpath(programs) to find the location of the programs-folder.
Is that possible to add to Rev?
Or is it smarter to use another app like Wise or Installshield for this?
Anyone know of a free installler-app?
thanks,
/Niklas Almesj–

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Interesting piece of a puzzle found... Not sure how to finishpiecing it together though...

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Saylor

Hello,

I recently discovered some interesting things about the OS-X/Darwin
versions of Revolution  Here are my findings:

I am making the assumption that the Revolution executable in the case
of OS-X is the equivalent of what is in the components/engines folders
for other platforms here.. If that assumption is incorrect then
everything changes  This is a re-iteration of some previous posts I
have made, but I solved on of the bigger problems so I thought I'd
present it again.. Sorry if it is overly redundant...


Problem:  The Darwin engine does not support VXCMD's or the revDB api
with the Valentina mode.
Solution: Use the OS-X engine (what other choice is there? ;-) )
-
Problem:  The Revolution executable cannot be started from the command
line, it yields a bunch of gibberish
Solution: Use the open command, this creates a problem because the
application is launched in the background.
-
Problem:  How to launch a CFM binary without it launching into the background.
Solution: Create a shell script, I called mine /usr/local/bin/Launch. 
In this shell script put the following:

#!/bin/sh
/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Support/LaunchCFMApp $@

After creating the file do a chmod 755 on it (chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/
Launch)

To start Revolution this way, use Launch /usr/local/Revolution/
Revolution (or wherever it is stored).
-
Problem:  Revolution engine keeps launching in GUI mode.
Solution: [ No solution yet -- do you have one? ]
-
Problem:  Revolution engine will not execute a script like the following:

#!/usr/local/bin/Launch /usr/local/Revolution/Revolution

on startup 
write hello world  linefeed to stdout
end startup

In other words  The OS-X engine doesn't seem to know (or care) about
stdout or have a way of executing scripts from the command line.

Solution:  The only one I can think of is to write an invisible stack
application which will take an argument of a file and do the lines of
that file.  Are there any better ones?...
-
Problem:  Can't find a way to feed a command-line argument to the OS-X
Revolution engine.
Solution: [ No solution yet, any ideas? ]
-
Problem:  When doing a script containing a bunch of transcript
commands, will I be restricted by the license in a built executable?
Solution: [ No analysis yet, should be easy to figure out though -- but
does anyone know off the top of your head? ]
-

The interesting thing is that it *almost* looks like I can piece
something together here, if I can only figure out a solution to the last
few problems.  It's a different angle then I was looking at it from
before (the Darwin side), but this seems possibly more practical

Any additional thoughts?...

Thanks, as always, for the great response on this list...

- Greg

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Another new kid on the block

2002-04-29 Thread Bernie

Hi List

I got the Starter Kit about 4 days ago and have been through the tuts and
playing with it quite a bit since then. I'm impressed, frustrated, excited
and confused!

I come from a very strong Visual Basic background which I've been using as
my main language for about 4 years.

I'm impressed about the ease of developing cross platform apps in Rev.

I'm frustrated because it is tough to come from one tool where I can do most
of what I want with my eyes shut to now having to look up things like how to
declare a variable!

I'm excited because I got through the tutorials in a few hours and have
progressed into an app that I was building with VB and have found that it
may be possible to do it all in Rev which would expand the reach of my
application.

I'm confused by the plain English of Transcript! I'm used to writingx =
blah rather than   put blah into x

I want to know if there are any other Rev users who come from a VB
background and, if so, how can we work together to write some tutorials or
whatever slanted to VB developers. It would sure help me right now to see a
comparison chart of how things are done in VB and their Rev equivalents.

Regards,
Bernie
Users don't care if I write in VB, C++ or Revolution. Its all Geek to them



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Re: creating an installer?

2002-04-29 Thread Bernie

There is an excellent and free installer program for Windows called Inno
Setup. I've used it for about 2 years. Don't know the url but just do a
search for Inno Setup.

Bernie

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Re: creating an installer?

2002-04-29 Thread Mike Brown

For Windows installers you can also use Setup Generator available for free
at download.com.  It works really well.  I've been using it for the last
year without any problems.

Mike Brown
Cyber-NY Interactive
34 East 23rd Street
New York, NY 10010

Phone: 212-475-2721
Toll Free: 1-888-70-CYBER
Web: www.cyber-ny.com



on 4/29/02 2:22 AM, Mark Talluto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Has anyone created an installer using Rev? It shouldn't be that
 difficult,
 right? Just add a couple of aliases to the start-menu and the desktop
 and
 copy the folder to the right place..? But I've found that I would need
 specialfolderpath(programs) to find the location of the
 programs-folder.
 Is that possible to add to Rev?
 Or is it smarter to use another app like Wise or Installshield for this?
 Anyone know of a free installler-app?
 thanks,
 /Niklas Almesj–
 
 For the PC you can use:  install maker from clickteam.com
 
 It is free!
 
 -Mark Talluto
 
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Why doesn't this work?

2002-04-29 Thread Bernie

From the Message Box this works;

set the width of image imTop to the width of image imTop + 20

But from any mouse event it does not.

Bernie

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Re: Why doesn't this work?

2002-04-29 Thread Bernie

As with so many questions I've asked on various lists I figured out the
answer within two minutes of posting the question!

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Re: MySQL localhost

2002-04-29 Thread Gustavo Chirinos

That's the version (1.1.1) I've downloaded.

Again, the problem is that I can't execute the sql commands, and when 
pressing the button New Connection get the error revdberr, restricted 
under current license.

Any help?

Gustavo Chirinos


On sábado, abril 27, 2002, at 03:53  pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reading through the online help I understand is necesary to install a
 MySQL library access. Is that true even for OS X?
 Revolution 1.1.1 is distributed with the MySQL drivers for Mac, and OSX,
 so you may want to try downloading the latest version of 1.1.1.

 Tuviah Snyder ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fwd: MySQL localhost

2002-04-29 Thread Gustavo Chirinos

Ok. I could make the connection to MySQL, but found the following bug 
using the Database Manager under OS X.

Under the tab Text Data if I press the New Connection to Database 
button I get the error: The application Revolution has unexpectedly 
quit.

The only way I can make the connection is as follow: first go under the 
tab Binary Data and press Connect and then Disconnect, then move 
to tab Text Data and press the New Connection to Database button, 
then I successfully get the window to execute the queries.

Further info: using a PowerBook G3 (Wallstreet), OS X 10.1.4, 320 MB 
Ram, Revolution 1.1.1

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Gustavo Chirinos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: lun. abri 29, 2002  01:11:10  pm America/Halifax
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: MySQL localhost

 That's the version (1.1.1) I've downloaded.

 Again, the problem is that I can't execute the sql commands, and when 
 pressing the button New Connection get the error revdberr, 
 restricted under current license.

 Any help?

 Gustavo Chirinos


 On sábado, abril 27, 2002, at 03:53  pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Reading through the online help I understand is necesary to install a
 MySQL library access. Is that true even for OS X?
 Revolution 1.1.1 is distributed with the MySQL drivers for Mac, and 
 OSX,
 so you may want to try downloading the latest version of 1.1.1.

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Drag and Drop onto App Icon

2002-04-29 Thread Dave

Does a Rev. standalone support dropping files on the icon of the app and
opening those files in the app?

What needs to be done to set this kind of thing up?

Many Thanks!


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Re: Open driver?

2002-04-29 Thread Michael D Mays

Which suit of XCMDs?

michael

David Vaughan of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following on 4/28/02 11:14 PM

 I can run HyperCard in the Classic environment under OS X and
 communicate through the USB using a suite of XCMDs, but nothing directly
 in OS X yet.

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Re: Drag and Drop onto App Icon

2002-04-29 Thread Dreamscape Software

 Does a Rev. standalone support dropping files on the icon of the app and
 opening those files in the app?

 What needs to be done to set this kind of thing up?

I do know in HyperCard all you had to do was setup a on appleEvent handler
in your stack's script.  I'm assuming it's the same thing for
MetaCard/RunRev.  Of course, that's for a Mac.  On Windows...no idea.

Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software, Inc.
http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/

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Sell or distribute

2002-04-29 Thread Steve L

Hello everyone,

If I wanted to sell or distribute a standalone program
that I developed, what must be done?  Can I just sell
or distribute it via the internet, or are there
procedures that must be done such as: registation,
copyright, etc?

Also, what is the deal with the beta testing?

I am new to this developing thing and I am not sure as
to the produres/requirements (if any) that apply prior
to selling or distributing software.

Thanks 

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Re: Open driver?

2002-04-29 Thread David Vaughan


On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 11:03 , Michael D Mays wrote:

 Which suite of XCMDs?

Harold Chesley's Serial Port Toolkit V2.6, comprising about fifteen 
separate XCMDs and XFCNs and dated 19 Feb 1990.

Kevin Calhoun (XFCN SerialHandler from the Dartmouth collection) and 
Danny Goodman (XCMD Comm) both do it in one handler (Harry even has a 
separate XFCN to return the version number) but I had some problems with 
each of them - doing nothing or crashing. Probably something wrong with 
my versions because there is nothing wrong with the people behind them. 
The Chesley kit is quite easy to use and seems to cover everything. I am 
doing receive only.

regards
David


 michael

 David Vaughan of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following on 4/28/02 
 11:14 PM

 I can run HyperCard in the Classic environment under OS X and
 communicate through the USB using a suite of XCMDs, but nothing 
 directly
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Re: Serial Port Toolkit

2002-04-29 Thread David Vaughan

Michael

If you like I can send them to you.

regards
David

On Tuesday, April 30, 2002, at 11:03 , Michael D Mays wrote:

 Which suit of XCMDs?

 michael

 David Vaughan of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following on 4/28/02 
 11:14 PM

 I can run HyperCard in the Classic environment under OS X and
 communicate through the USB using a suite of XCMDs, but nothing 
 directly
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Re: Sell or distribute

2002-04-29 Thread Shao Sean

 If I wanted to sell or distribute a standalone program
with runrev, there are no royalities or licensing fees (other than what you
pay to get the development license) for selling a standalone program..

--
 or distribute it via the internet, or are there
you can easily distribute it via the internet and there are many services
already setup that will help you with the distribution and/or payments..
check in the archives for an earlier thread about this..

--
 procedures that must be done such as: registation, copyright, etc?
in my country (canada) the moment you write it and such, you have the
copyright to it (unless it's a work-for-hire).. you may want to spend some
time to make sure that you're not going to be using the same name as someone
else..

--
 Also, what is the deal with the beta testing?
usually you gather a group of people that you can trust and get them to sign
NDA's (i just threaten them.. it works the same ;-) but this sill depend on
what kind of software you are writing and the people you are getting to test
it (i've never gotten anyone to sign NDA's and nothing has ever been
leaked.. of course i put other things in there so i can tell who's copy was
leaked =)

--
 I am new to this developing thing and I am not sure as
welcome aboard.. =)

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Re: MIDI RR

2002-04-29 Thread Rick Harrison

on 4/26/2002 12:59 PM, Kurt Kaufman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone had experience using MIDI with RR?  My chief interest would be in
 being able to create files of MIDI data, rather than writing something to
 record live MIDI data.
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Kurt,

Haven't any MIDI/RR experience, but I'm very interested in your
question.  Apparently no one else has any experience either or
they would have responded to your question.  Find out on the web
what the MIDI format file is comprised of.  See if you can get a
look at the guts of one, decode it a little so you understand it
and then go from there.  From that point on it shouldn't be too bad.

Good luck and I'm sure we'd all like to know of your progress and results.

Rick Harrison

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Re: Serial Port Toolkit

2002-04-29 Thread Stephen Barncard

I thought post system 7 use of the serial port was encouraged to be 
done through the communication toolbox --

I have several stacks of XCMDs that use it, including one by Harry 
Chesley. Let me know. In fact, I have XCMDs for just about everything 
I've collected over the years...


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