RE: Questions about 2.0

[Chipp Walters]

Igor,

>
> 1) Will there be any enhancements in the way that Revolution deals with
> LAYERING of objects and groups? Will we be able to 'send backward' and
> 'bring forward' inside a group?

see Ken's tip in a previous post

>
> While this might seem like a small question, it has HUGE consequences
> in my application design. It means designing the entire application to
> function one way or another, and interface with the user using a single
> window, or a window and a series of palettes.
>
> 2) What are going to be the capabilities of the new 'spreadsheet'
> control? More precisely:
>
> a) Will we be able to access the data on a specified range
> automatically (ie, "get from row 8, col 2 to row 40, col 3"?)

Yes, but not using row and column terms. I think you'll find it works for
what you want.

>
> b) Will we be able to put any data other than strings inside cells? -
> ie, images, graphics?

I imagine so...though I haven't tried. I don't see why it wouldn't work.

>
> c) Will the appearance of the spreadsheet be customisable, and if so,
> to what extent? - will I be able to assign custom column/row labels,
> will I be able to colour the background of specific cells, will I be
> able to hide/show divider lines ?

Don't know, but I think you can certainly code 'around' these issues for
now? Check out my column labeler at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm

which does the trick for columns...now for the rows?

>
> Depending on the answers to these questions, I will have to either
> redefine the specs of my applications, redesign its functionality
> and/or redesign the user interface.
>
> 3) Will there be any changes to the list of built-in functions?
>
> My applications needs to use a variety of statistical and mathematical
> functions, some of which Rev 1.1.1 already has - and is quite speedy
> at! There are, however, a few that I will need that Revolution
> currently does not have. For instance, even though Revolutions has a
> function for calculating the MEDIAN, it does not have a function for
> calculating the QUARTILES - which are needed for drawing Box Plots.
> Should I start implementing all required functions, or will there be
> new functions in Rev 2.0?
>

'QUARTILES'...Not that I'm aware of. I'm working with my partner Chris (a C
programmer) on a basic primer for writing your own math functions in C and
compiling to a DLL for access in MC/RR. Look for an announcement on this
list next week.

> 4) To what extent will the text-entry capabilities be enhanced?
>
> We know that Revolution 2.0 will be capable of handling Unicode text
> natively, but does that mean that it will be able to write
> right-to-left and up-down as well? Will there be any text entry
> functionality that will make it easier for me to implement MATHEMATICAL
> EQUATION EDITING? - right now, I'm starting on the development of a
> very time-consuming sub-app that I will need to have for mathematical
> formula editing...

While Unicode is supported, I'll leave this question up to Tuviah or someone
from the RR team.

>
> 5) Will there be a new mechanism for automatically resizing interface
> objects?
>
> Frankly, the Geometry Manager simply does not work. It's unusable if
> the application contains multiple cards, and each card contains
> multiple groups inside groups. Others in this list have mentioned that
> they've hard-coded the required resizing onto every object, in order to
> guarantee that it functions properly. I have a GREAT suspicion that
> this would have to have been fixed by version 2.0, but there is no
> mention whatsoever of this anywhere. If this hasn't been dealt with,
> then I have to start hard-coding this RIGHT AWAY, before my application
> gets any more complex!

I don't know about Geo Mgr fixes.. but I've gotten accustomed to managing my
own geometry. It's not hard using resizestack msg and a Win Style stack
resizer. I put the stack resizer on a window (not necessarily a palette
window) and set the resizable to false. This way I can put 'on finish
resizing' commands in the script of the stack resizer and let the
resizeStack msg handle the rest. I find it can go faster, and handle more. I
can also 'check' on startup to see if a computer has enough processing power
to do realtime updating of all controls.

>
> 6) Will there be any changes in the graphing/drawing capabilities of
> Revolution?

I'm not aware of any -- though I don't know what else you would want
(besides of course a full implementation of OpenGL! ;-)

>
> I am writing an application with graphing capabilities, and I want my
> users to be able to have options such as: to be able to use GRADIENTS
> in their bars and backgrounds, feathered drop shadows, and bar-pictures
> (a custom bar/column picture that repeats a single row of pixels until
> the picture is 'to scale'). Will any of these features be available in
> Revolution 2.0, or should I start spending some time right away
> defining these functions?

While these aren't avai

RE: Application Icons

[Chipp Walters]

you can check out "Making custom icons for windows RunRev" at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Tutorials.htm



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> Rampy
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 12:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Application Icons
> 
> 
> When building a distribution app, I would like to
> specify an application icon. I can see how to browse
> and select an icon file in the "Build Distribution"
> dialogs. What I'm not sure about, though, is how I
> might create an icon file in the first place. Any
> suggestions are appreaciated.
> 
> 
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Best way to stop an event sequence

[Sannyasin Sivakatirswami]

I have some CD's that use the "bad" technique "repeat until the mouse 
is down" to "stop" a show (variety of sequenced events) and allow the 
user to proceed to the next card... a "skip intro" strategy.  I really 
didn't know what I was doing and just "made it work" (nearly three 
years ago now...) But sometimes I get really weird behavior from 
that

Anyway, would like to start fresh:

Assume on the title card of an interactive presentation, the open stack 
handler triggers a "runsShow' handler that initiates a variety of 
events/sequences, Title Text moves in, images start appearing, fading, 
start a music player, credits are rolling in a field, very wide images 
in the back are moving slowly left to right etc. some of these are done 
with repeat loops and some with "send in"  and there are some "wait" 
built in and you want the user to be able to just stop all that.. and 
go to the next card which is static. What is the best technique for 
this kind of thing? I think the repeat loops are the biggest problem 
with my old way of doing it.

Hope that is not too vague.. a general example of "the best way" would 
suffice.
Thanks!

Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
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Re: The joy of animated GIF

[erik hansen]

 
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>are there any cross-platform>issues or other problems associated with animated GIFs?about that plan of using a GIF as an image library. It's badidea because the frames are all decompressed ahead of time, chewing uplarge amounts of RAM for no good reason unless you're actually goingto use it for animation where performance is more important thanmemory requirements.I don't think this rules out animated gifs totally (see ClickClock); but as a library of large images it may not be the best approach.OTOH, if your design alternative is to load all the images in a stack (as opposed to referencing external image files), putting them in an animated gif incurs no RAM hit, just the time to decompress the frames when the image is opened.BTW, it is the frame decompression on opening that allows the MC engine to display frame x without first reading frame 1 through x-1.Also, so far as I can tell, a!
nimated gifs cannot be resized, and someone else reported they don't rotate correctly.An obvious point easily overlooked: you can't display multiple frames of an animated gif on the same screen at the same time.That being said animated gifs make eminent sense in controls like ClickClock.gif:300+ small images that are designed and scripted to be used as a set with never a need to be display multiple images or change the loaction of the image/use-revolution
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Re: Questions about 2.0

[Ken Ray]

> 1) Will there be any enhancements in the way that Revolution deals with
> LAYERING of objects and groups? Will we be able to 'send backward' and
> 'bring forward' inside a group?

Although you can't do it by the "normal" means (i.e. "set the layer of btn 2
of group 1 to 1"), you CAN do it like this:

lock screen
start editing group 1
set the layer of btn 2 to 1
stop editing
unlock screen

This has the same effect to the user (since the screen is locked), so you
might want to try that.

> 2) What are going to be the capabilities of the new 'spreadsheet'
> control? More precisely:
>
> a) Will we be able to access the data on a specified range
> automatically (ie, "get from row 8, col 2 to row 40, col 3"?)

Not using those tokens ("row", "col") , I don't believe.

> b) Will we be able to put any data other than strings inside cells? -
> ie, images, graphics?

Images can go into fields; they take the place of a character.

I'll leave the rest of the questions to the RunRev folks...

Ken Ray
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Web Pages for MacWorld

[Geoff Canyon]

I'll be one of the people manning the booth at MacWorld (for anyone who 
doesn't know, we'll have a booth at the expo).

I'd like to have a list of made-with-Rev applications (or stacks) 
handy, with web pages if possible. So if you have a page published with 
your made-with-Rev project and would like to help the cause and get a 
little publicity yourself, please send the name of your project and the 
URL to me. I'll put all the links together into a quick reference for 
the show.

regards,

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Re: Maybe OT: White Zone of Death

[Geoff Canyon]

Check the Application Overview to see what objects are on the card.

On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Judy Perry wrote:


Hello, all:

I seem to have a White Zone of Death (WZoD) in Rev, and only in one
particular stack.  By this, I mean that my stack opens to  its full 
window
size, but about a third of it along the right is completely blank.  
It's
not some opaque field or button or graphic as it cannot be selected.
Whatever it is simply obscures the information beneath it (it's still
there, because I can select the visible portions of the information and
drag it into the non-WZoD area, and it all appears).

I have quit, relaunched, logged-out, logged back in, restarted the
computer... (OSX)  I'm perplexed!  Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Judy


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I hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if you have any further 
questions.

regards,

Geoff Canyon
Revolution Support
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Re: Maybe OT: White Zone of Death

[Rob Cozens]

I have quit, relaunched, logged-out, logged back in, restarted the
computer... (OSX)  I'm perplexed!  Any ideas?


Hi Judy,

Since you are grasping at straws at this point, here are two longshots:

1. From the message box, 'set the visible of stack "White Zone of 
Death" to true'

2. Open White Zone of Death with the application overview, and view 
the list of all controls on the card you are looking at.  Look for an 
invisible group or any bogus control you didn't expect to find.
--

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CCW, Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm

"And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."

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Questions about 2.0

[Igor de Oliveira Couto]

Dear Rev Masters,

I am at a stage in my development process which is quite frustrating. 
There are far too many decisions that have to be made, which are 
dependent on the possible feature set of Rev 2.0 - which remain as yet 
unannounced... For instance:

1) Will there be any enhancements in the way that Revolution deals with 
LAYERING of objects and groups? Will we be able to 'send backward' and 
'bring forward' inside a group?

While this might seem like a small question, it has HUGE consequences 
in my application design. It means designing the entire application to 
function one way or another, and interface with the user using a single 
window, or a window and a series of palettes.

2) What are going to be the capabilities of the new 'spreadsheet' 
control? More precisely:

a) Will we be able to access the data on a specified range 
automatically (ie, "get from row 8, col 2 to row 40, col 3"?)

b) Will we be able to put any data other than strings inside cells? - 
ie, images, graphics?

c) Will the appearance of the spreadsheet be customisable, and if so, 
to what extent? - will I be able to assign custom column/row labels, 
will I be able to colour the background of specific cells, will I be 
able to hide/show divider lines ?

Depending on the answers to these questions, I will have to either 
redefine the specs of my applications, redesign its functionality 
and/or redesign the user interface.

3) Will there be any changes to the list of built-in functions?

My applications needs to use a variety of statistical and mathematical 
functions, some of which Rev 1.1.1 already has - and is quite speedy 
at! There are, however, a few that I will need that Revolution 
currently does not have. For instance, even though Revolutions has a 
function for calculating the MEDIAN, it does not have a function for 
calculating the QUARTILES - which are needed for drawing Box Plots. 
Should I start implementing all required functions, or will there be 
new functions in Rev 2.0?

4) To what extent will the text-entry capabilities be enhanced?

We know that Revolution 2.0 will be capable of handling Unicode text 
natively, but does that mean that it will be able to write 
right-to-left and up-down as well? Will there be any text entry 
functionality that will make it easier for me to implement MATHEMATICAL 
EQUATION EDITING? - right now, I'm starting on the development of a 
very time-consuming sub-app that I will need to have for mathematical 
formula editing...

5) Will there be a new mechanism for automatically resizing interface 
objects?

Frankly, the Geometry Manager simply does not work. It's unusable if 
the application contains multiple cards, and each card contains 
multiple groups inside groups. Others in this list have mentioned that 
they've hard-coded the required resizing onto every object, in order to 
guarantee that it functions properly. I have a GREAT suspicion that 
this would have to have been fixed by version 2.0, but there is no 
mention whatsoever of this anywhere. If this hasn't been dealt with, 
then I have to start hard-coding this RIGHT AWAY, before my application 
gets any more complex!

6) Will there be any changes in the graphing/drawing capabilities of 
Revolution?

I am writing an application with graphing capabilities, and I want my 
users to be able to have options such as: to be able to use GRADIENTS 
in their bars and backgrounds, feathered drop shadows, and bar-pictures 
(a custom bar/column picture that repeats a single row of pixels until 
the picture is 'to scale'). Will any of these features be available in 
Revolution 2.0, or should I start spending some time right away 
defining these functions?

I have been patiently waiting for Rev 2.0, and using that time as 
constructively as possible. I have been trying to advance the design 
and implementation of my apps as much as possible, taking into 
consideration the impending release of 2.0. I would have loved to be 
able to purchase a Professional Edition, and to have been included in 
the alpha/beta testing program, however, finances are prohibitive - I 
am a student - and some of these projects I am developing on a 
voluntary basis for free distribution by non-profit organisations. I am 
currently on holidays, and therefore had planned to program full-time 
until the- end of February. The delay on the release of even a beta of 
2.0 has been quite disappointing, and has put a SERIOUS delay on all 
projects...

I have very limited time to take my projects to completion, and the 
idea of sitting around twiddling my thumbs for 2 weeks, while I could 
be doing something useful and constructive, is truly torturous. Please, 
feed us some more detailed info on the 2.0 release, so we can continue 
our work with Rev 1.1.1 in the most constructive manner possible!

And, please, keep up the good work! Revolution is a great development 
environment!

Kindest Regards,

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Re: two msgs in a lock field

[erik hansen]

 
 "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. (The Cookbook is/will be part of 2.0.)
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RE: Defining Custom Objects

[Monte Goulding]

Hi Igor

> I seem to vaguely remember someone mentioning that it IS possible to
> define a new object CLASS in Revolution - so that if I update the
> class, all objects that are based on it are automatically updated.
>
At some wonderful day in the future Raney will give us some more powerful
tools to use for this kind of thing but for now I use library scripts.

What I usually do is use a custom property to trigger a certain behaviour.
For example, libXMLText checks to see if the object is a field and then if
the xmlText property is not empty and then if the xmlTree property is true
or (false or empty). If the field isn't using the xmlText property then
messages just get passed. All operations are on the target and any data that
needs to be stored is stored in the custom properties of the target.

If the xmlTree property of the field is true then it generates a
tree/outline complete with icons and the correct flipper for each platform.
If not then it searches the object hierarchy from the target down for a
custom property set named StyleXML that contains style translation info for
each xml tag. It combines any StyleXML properties it finds CSS style then
does the xmlText to htmlText translation.

There are other ways to do all this using front/back scripts but this is the
way I like until we get a parentObject property.

Cheers

Monte

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Re: OT: Revolution 2 on TV !

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  wrote:

> Another robotics question... Has anyone used Revolution to control robots
> of any kind?

Well, not control over movement of the robot, just its audio:

  http://www.cyberhaunt.com/rampage/

Otherwise, I have some links to gear that can control hardware via a
computer, but I believe those items use their own programming
commands/language to operate.  Not that Rev couldn't be used at all (in
fact, I believe Rev/MC could work in conjunction with some of the Lego
Mindstorms stuff) but in some cases, using Transcript might be redundant.

There was a cool Mac product several years ago called ADB I/O by BeeHive
that allowed your Mac to control external devices, but alas the company
seems to have drifted into obscurity after USB came along.  Perhaps someone
else knows what became of them.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
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Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Defining Custom Objects

[Igor de Oliveira Couto]

Dear Rev Folks,

I seem to vaguely remember someone mentioning that it IS possible to 
define a new object CLASS in Revolution - so that if I update the 
class, all objects that are based on it are automatically updated.

The 'Object Library' allows us to save and 'copy and paste' objects, 
however that is not the same... - ie, it provides no way for me to 
update ALL objects of a certain 'kind' at once...  I still end up with 
a long list of individual objects, and if I want to make a change to 
the functionality of that type of object throughout my application, I 
still have to go and change, one by one, the script of all these 
objects...

If it IS, indeed, possible to define one's own custom-object types, 
could someone please post a little list of instructions for us 
newbies?...

Many, many thanks, in advance!

Kindest Regards,
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Re: two msgs in a lock field

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 1:53 PM -0800 1/3/03, erik hansen wrote:
> "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here's a recipe (from the Cookbook)
>
>
>
>still available?


I'm not sure what you mean. (The Cookbook is/will be part of 2.0.)

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Re: OT: Revolution 2 on TV !

[Roger . E . Eller]

Jan Schenkel wrote:

> No, there haven't been any advertisements, and it
> wasn't even the Revolution as we know it.
> I was watching RobotWars - The 6th Wars : and in came
> a new robot, named Revolution 2.

Another robotics question... Has anyone used Revolution to control robots
of any kind? I am especially interested in the ER1 laptop robot. It just
looks like transcript would be such an easy way to build the underlying
logic that is necessary for an autonomous decision making robot.

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How to shell to file on CD?

[RGould8]

Is it possible to call a Unix command off of a CD ROM using Revolution, if the Revolution app is running off of a CD?

For instance, let's suppose I have a unix application called "SetPPPoE", and I want to call it from Revolution and pass some parameters, like "SetPPPoE username password".

Is there a way to invoke the Applescript shell command from Revolution, and somehow determine the pathname to the CDROM and find the complete path to the unix file and call it?

- Rob

Re: OT: Revolution 2 on TV !

[Richard Gaskin]

Jan Schenkel wrote:

> No, there haven't been any advertisements, and it
> wasn't even the Revolution as we know it.
> I was watching RobotWars - The 6th Wars : and in came
> a new robot, named Revolution 2.

Which reminds me: Anyone ever build a Bolo-like network game in Rev or MC?

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Re: two msgs in a lock field

[erik hansen]

 
 "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here's a recipe (from the Cookbook)
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Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #986 - 7 msgsMSg # 7

[MFitz53]

In a message dated 1/3/03 12:02:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Could you provide a bit more info so we can help you
more to get to the finish :-)

Or even supply a amazingly clever solution :-D


Regards


Klaus Major
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 Thanks again, Klause. I did fix that myself. Having moved up to a bigger headache, I'm glad you are here. In an attempt to automate the slideshow, I put the following script into a button. The thing works well for the first 3 pictures, then when the third closes, the fourth doesn't open, but rather a grainy image opens in the same rect as the previous picture. The next opens correctly, and the one after that opens a large grainy image.(No picture, just looks like a texture) . Then I gert an error.Here's the script:

on mouseUp
  put the cphotoFolderPath of this stack into folderPath
  put 1 into z
  repeat(the number of lines in fld "allphotos")times
    put the value of line z of fld"allphotos" into photoToShow
    set the filename of img 1 to (folderPath&"/"&photoToShow)
    show image 1
    wait 5 seconds
    hide image 1
    wait 1 second
    add 1 to z
  end repeatend mouseUpAnd here's the error message I get:• There was an Execution Error at 4:19:12 PMError description:  put: error in expression
Object: button id 1033 of card id 1002 of stack "C:/Program Files/Revolution 1.1.1/OurPics.rev"

repeat(the number of lines in fld "allphotos")times

Value: Carol and Friend LOL.jpg

 I had thought maybe there was some characteristic of the jpg that was hanging things up, but RR shows it just fine any other time.

 So, what do you think?
and thanks from

mike fitz, newbie for life

Re: [Ann] Programmers yaBB in german

[erik hansen]

viel gluck!
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Applications to make us proud

[Heather Williams]

Hi all,

Happy New Year!

As you may know, we are exhibiting at MacWorld San Francisco. To help make
this our best show to date, we want to demonstrate some excellent
applications made with Revolution. I know there are some great apps out
there, and I've already emailed some of you for permission to show off your
work. If you've got something you're proud of, or you know of something
someone else has made that you think really shines, please let me know, tell
me who and where I can find it. But you'll need to be quick... We need
permissions by tomorrow night, Monday at the latest...

Thank you one and all,

Regards,

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Re: assistance with visual effects

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 10:56 AM -0800 1/3/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>on openCard
>go next marked card
>vissual effect dissolve
>end openCard

You need to put the visual effect command before the go command, not after.
(The visual effect command takes effect the next time you move to another
card.)

  on openCard
 visual effect dissolve
 go next marked card
  end openCard

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Re: groups position - can it be different on different cards?

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 12:03 PM -0800 1/3/03, sean nicholas harper wrote:
>Can it? That would be cool.

No. (Sorry. ;-)

But you can script different positions for different cards. One way to do
this is to store the desired location in a custom property of the card (you
could call it, for example, the "myGroupPosition" property). Then a
preOpenCard handler in the stack script would look like this:

  on preOpenCard
get the myGroupPosition of the target
if it is not empty and there is a group "My Group"
then set the loc of group "My Group" to it
  end preOpenCard

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Re: two msgs in a lock field

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 9:21 AM -0800 1/3/03, Yves Coppé wrote:
>I have a scroll list filed with lockText to true
>Working on Mac OS X and 9
>
>when the user click a line, the handler execute something
>when the user hold the mousestilldown another handler is executed.
>
>Now how can I prevent the mouseUp handler to be executed if the
>mousestilldown is sent.

Here's a recipe (from the Cookbook) to do this (this example changes the
text color, but you can do whatever you want instead):


local didPopUpMenu -- keeps track of whether the menu was popped up

on mouseDown
  put false into didPopUpMenu -- start out by assuming no menu
  send "popGoesTheMenu" to me in 2 seconds
end mouseDown

on popGoesTheMenu theLocation
  -- The menu will pop up only if the user is still pressing
  -- the mouse over the button after 2 seconds:
  if the mouse is up \
 or the mouseLoc is not within the rect of me \
 then exit popGoesTheMenu
  put true into didPopUpMenu -- skip the mouseUp actions
  popup button "Colors" -- the hidden popup menu
end popGoesTheMenu

on mouseUp
  -- if the user popped up the menu, don't do the click action
  if didPopUpMenu then pass mouseUp
  -- if there is a text selection, set its color:
  if the short name of the selectedField is "Example Text" then
set the textColor of the selectedChunk \
   to (last word of the label of me)
  end if
end mouseUp

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groups position - can it be different on different cards?

[sean nicholas harper]

Can it? That would be cool.

Sean


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Re: Application Icons

[Klaus Major]

Hi Shawn,

i forgot to mention some basics :-)

An application icon for a RR standalone requires a special file-format.
(I am presuming we are talking about windows ! This is windoze-only.)

It is the ICO-format, which is actually a bitmap (BMP) in disguise
with some minor differences...

(Again, thank you, Bill ;-)

And to create one, you need an application that can
save/export this format...

Exactly that was the link in my last post:

"Icon Studio", a powerful and free icon-editor with
an extremely embarrasing icon ;-)

Important hint (again...)

Size: 32*32 pixel
Color: 4 bit (16 colors)


Regards

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assistance with visual effects

[rel102g4]

All,
I am trying to dissolve form one card to another. Then pause on the 
Card 2.  When user clicks button on Card 2 I want the Card 3 to 
dissolve in.

Background: I am using start kit version and the cards are overlayed 
with graphics that fill the card 655 px X549 px.

Her is my code.

card 1 script:

on openCard
go next marked card
vissual effect dissolve
end openCard


Card 2
card script: N/A
button script:

on mouseDown
go next marked card
vissual effect dissolve
end mouseDown
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Thanks in advance for the help

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OT: Revolution 2 on TV !

[Jan Schenkel]

No, there haven't been any advertisements, and it
wasn't even the Revolution as we know it.
I was watching RobotWars - The 6th Wars : and in came
a new robot, named Revolution 2.
A very innovative one as well, but unfortunately, it
went out in the first round.
Perhaps it was still in its alpha stage as well? ;-)

Have a nice weekend,

Jan Schenkel.

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"As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time."  (La 
Rochefoucauld)

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Re: Revolution Users' Gathering at MacWorld SF

[Richard Gaskin]

Geoff Canyon wrote:

> I'd like to propose that Revolutionaries going to MacWorld get together
> one night for an evening of food, drink, and code. All are welcome --

Project commitments will keep me chained to the office during January, but
my best wishes (and at least a little envy) go out to all those who'll
attend.

For those in southern California, it might be fun to have a mini-RevFest
here at the Fourth World Embassy in downtown Los Angeles sometime after
MacWorld.  If interested drop me an email and we'll arrange a time that's
good or everyone.

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Re: Application Icons

[Klaus Major]

Hi Shawn,


When building a distribution app, I would like to
specify an application icon. I can see how to browse
and select an icon file in the "Build Distribution"
dialogs. What I'm not sure about, though, is how I
might create an icon file in the first place. Any
suggestions are appreaciated.


take look at this:

http://www.html-helper.com./viewapp.asp?program=iconstud

Although it has one of the most embarrassing icons i have ever seen,
this icon-editor works fine ;-)

And it is totally free !!!

You just have to fill a form to get an acvtivation code.
I did and had NO spam-mails after that...

The most important facts for creating a RR compatible icon:

32*32 pixel
16 colors (4 bit)
(Unfortunataly the most ugly 16 colors from the windows 
system-color-palette...
I hope that will be changed in one of the future versions !)

That will result in the necessary 744 byte filesize !

Hope that helps...

Shawn Rampy
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Regards
Klaus Major
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Maybe OT: White Zone of Death

[Judy Perry]

Hello, all:

I seem to have a White Zone of Death (WZoD) in Rev, and only in one
particular stack.  By this, I mean that my stack opens to  its full window
size, but about a third of it along the right is completely blank.  It's
not some opaque field or button or graphic as it cannot be selected.
Whatever it is simply obscures the information beneath it (it's still
there, because I can select the visible portions of the information and
drag it into the non-WZoD area, and it all appears).

I have quit, relaunched, logged-out, logged back in, restarted the
computer... (OSX)  I'm perplexed!  Any ideas?

Many thanks,

Judy


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Application Icons

[Michael S. Rampy]

When building a distribution app, I would like to
specify an application icon. I can see how to browse
and select an icon file in the "Build Distribution"
dialogs. What I'm not sure about, though, is how I
might create an icon file in the first place. Any
suggestions are appreaciated.


Shawn Rampy
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multiline button labels

[Klaus Major]

Hi Kevin or someone at RR,


Labels of buttons CAN have multi-line names !
You can force a new line in the label (and ONLY there) by adding
\n, where a linebreak should appear.
This is the\nlabel of me
Results in:
This is the
label of me

Very cool feature :-)


Klaus,

Are you sure about this?
When I set the label of a button in Rev to "the\nlabel" it appears in 
the
button as "the\nlabel". The "n" isn't escaped by the \ and everything
remains on one line.

Oooops, you are right...

I works in MetaCard, RR uses the same engine so i will have to
pass the question over to scotland...

Why does that not work in RR (1.1.1 and 2.0xx) ???
Please make it work there, too...


can you please give a tiny comment on this inconvenience ?


Thanks a lot from germany


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[Ann] Programmers yaBB in german

[Malte Brill]

A happy new year to all of you. I haven´t been around for a while, being
busy redesigning my website and setting up a programmers yaBB in german
language. It is still "in the making" but I guess it will get quite a nice
place. :-) So if anyone of you wants to join in, please visit
www.revolutionboard.de

If you are interested in translation of your tutorials into german, please
mail me off list.

Regards,

Malte

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Printing what you can't see

[Ray Bennett]

This question is similar to Sarah's question of 24 Nov 02, which, 
judging by the thread, was never really resolved.

I have a card that is considerably larger than the visible window 
(about 2x taller, same width).  I want to print the entire card into a 
page-size rect, but the print command always crops the output to what 
is visible on the screen.   I've tried setting the stack window to the 
same height as the card, printing, and then setting it back, but this 
doesn't help (and sometimes crashes Rev).

I've played with the printscale property, which still only prints the 
visible window (except smaller).

Is it possible to do what I want?

Thanks in advance.
Ray

developing for Mac/Unix
running on OSX 10.2.3/RunRev 1.1.1/Pizmo PowerBook G3|400

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Re: Underlined characters in button label?

[mark mitchell]

Sahra wrote:


The possible solutions suggested so far are:
- use an image instead
- use a font with special characters
Neither of these are any good for me as I want the font & size
user-selectable, so I'm still hoping for some other wonderful
suggestions.



Are you sure you absolutely need a button?  Sounds like you are going to 
have to go with a field (as you can set font and style for individual 
characters in a field), if you have all  these requirements.  Of course, 
if you want the button look or functionality, you can always make a 
small transparent field over the button and just pass (send) the click 
to the button underneath

mm
Japan

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Step (was Re: setting pointer location)

[curry]

...and while I am on, how do you replicate the 'step' parameter in Hypercard
repeats?  I want to put a return after every third line between lines 3 and
168 of a field.



This is in 2.0.



In the meantime, you can fake it a couple of ways...


I've been using positive and negative "step" with repeats ever since 
I started using Revolution.

As an example, try this in your message box:

repeat with i=30 to 0 step -3
put i & cr after x
end repeat
put x

It works for me!

Curry

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