[ANN] Script Browser, XML Text & OZ-RUG

2003-06-27 Thread Monte Goulding

Howdy

I've just uploaded upgrades to my Script Browser plugin and libXMLtext.
Download from http://www.sweattechnologies.com/rev/

Script Browser (sorry rev only)
 - will now show all declared locals, globals and constants even if you
didn't javadoc comment them. If you do normal inline rev comments after each
declaration this will be included in the browser window.
 - If libXMLtext is in use then you can modify the text styles. This is a
good example of using libXMLtext for style sheet type functionality.

libXMLtext
 - I've finally done an example style setter. Have a play (it's really
cool!).
 - fixed a couple of issues related to Rev 2.0 custom property handling

OZ-RUG (Australian Revolution Users Group)

To join up go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oz-rug/

Current members (me). We will even accept New Zealanders ;-)

Actually anyone in the general area is welcome. Maybe we can encourage the
RunRev team to do a tour?

Cheers

Monte


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Re: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 12:10  AM, Mark Brownell wrote:
 I want to put the XML text of each transaction into 300 separate 
items of an array. I then would like to save this array as an external 
file. It wouldn't be saved as text it would be saved as an array file. 
I could then use answer to open it with my application that could then 
access it.
You CAN do exactly that by using a "data stack" via custom properties! 
See this excellent post by Richard 
http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/tips/stk001.htm

excerpts from that post:

"""
The main benefit of using a stack file as opposed to a text file is the 
hierarchical structure afforded with objects 
and their custom properties.

Remember that every Rev object can have custom properties, and even 
multiple sets of custom properties.  Accessing 
these is very fast — much faster than fields, 
and only a tiny bit slower than globals.  You can use array notation
 if you like, and they can store binary data as 
well as text.

Since a new stack file contains one card in one mainstack, you 
instantly get this rich structure for 
organizing your data (for just 363 bytes of 
overhead):
...

Because the storage space and access speed overhead are so low with 
custom properties, you can use stack files for 
data sets as large as memory allows and expect 
pretty snappy performance.  In this sense, it rivals Panorama and   
  other RAM-based databases, with all the ease and 
flexibility of an xTalk.

"""

and to emphasize Monte's message earlier

"""
-- create and populate your array
put whatever into tArray["something"]
-- use the following to save the array
set the customProperties["myArray"] of stack "savedArrays" to tArray
save stack "savedArrays"
-- use the following to load the array
put the customProperties["myArray"] of stack "savedArrays" into tArray
"""

Alex Rice, Software Developer
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Re: Eliminate doubles in a long list field

2003-06-27 Thread Igor Couto
Dear Ludovic,

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 03:57  PM, Ludovic Thébault wrote:

I've a long list field with double entry

I want to eliminate double.

I use this script :

 repeat for each line l in myLongList
   if l is not in myLongListWithoutDouble then
 put l&cr after myLongListWithoutDouble
   end if
 end repeat
But it's long. There is an another solution ? Thanks.

How about this:

sort lines of field cMyLongListField
repeat with x = (the number of lines in field cMyLongListField) down to 
2
	if (line x of field cMyLongListField is line (x-1) of field 
cMyLongListField)
	then delete line x of field cMyLongListField
end repeat

I haven't tried, but I suspect it might be faster - I don't really 
know... You will, of course, end up with a SORTED list of unique lines 
- and I don't know whether that will pose a problem for you as well or 
not!

I hope this helps!

Kind Regards,

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Re: Eliminate doubles in a long list field

2003-06-27 Thread Yves COPPE
Le samedi, 28 juin 2003, à 07:57 Europe/Brussels, Ludovic Thébault a 
écrit :

I've a long list field with double entry

I want to eliminate double.

I use this script :

 repeat for each line l in myLongList
   if l is not in myLongListWithoutDouble then
 put l&cr after myLongListWithoutDouble
   end if
 end repeat
But it's long. There is an another solution ? Thanks.



Hello Ludovic

here is a script I use to do the job between two flds
Very fast !!!


On mouseUp
  put "" into fld "resultat"
  put fld "listeUn" into tmpUn
  put fld "listeDeux" into tmpDeux
  put commonLines(tmpUn,tmpDeux) into fld "resultat"
end mouseUp
function commonLines pList1, pList2
   repeat for each line tLine in pList1
 put 1 into tArray[tLine]
   end repeat
   repeat for each line tLine in pList2
 if tArray[tLine] = 1 then
   put 2 into tArray[tLine]
   put tLine & cr after tRetVal
 end if
   end repeat
   delete char -1 of tRetVal
   return tRetVal
end commonLines


You can easily do t he same on ONE list with something as :

  put myLongList into tmpUn
  put myLongList into tmpDeux
  put commonLines(tmpUn,tmpDeux) into myLongList
Avec un petit bonjour de la Belgique vers la France !!
et heureux de te dépanner !
Greetings
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Re: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Mark Brownell

On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 09:44  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 10:08 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:

Maybe I don't understant what you want but check out customPropertySets.

I want to create and populate an array. The arrays can contain numbers or string data that might include LF and paragraph breaks. Anyway I want to save the array and at later times open them as arrays. Although this isn't about operators working on data in arrays it is about changing the capabilities of arrays.

If you mean the array is still there after you save and later open the stack, then I think Monte's suggestion of customPropertySet sounds right.

Let's say that I have an XML document that contains 300 sales transactions. I want to put the XML text of each transaction into 300 separate items of an array. I then would like to save this array as an external file. It wouldn't be saved as text it would be saved as an array file. I could then use answer to open it with my application that could then access it. 

If you want to save to a file, then look at split and combine.  Since you have numbers, you need to make sure the numberFormat will include as many digits you need.  If you have multiline data, you want to be careful of your split/combine delimiters and not use LF.  Perhaps some carefully selected control characters will work.

If your arrays also include some binary data and you want to save the data to a file, then split/combine will probably not work, not in general.  Let us know if this is the case.

Dar Scott

This is wish list stuff I'm talking about.  In Director I have an Xtra plug-in that enables a shockwave app to save lists (arrays) to my hard drive. Later I can access the saved array and load it into a variable. This Xtra plug-in was written in C++ and adds value to the shockwave engine. If they are going to add operators to arrays maybe some day they can add save as array as a feature, meanwhile I can use Valentina and save as a database file of XML text transactions.

Mark


Re: mexican voices in OS X

2003-06-27 Thread Manuel Companys
Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 02:28 Europe/Paris, TOM DIOLA a écrit :

Saw your post and was wondering how to get those mexican voices working
in OS X.
So do I.

My Son is taking Spanish in High School and it would be nice
to have him emulate the accents
Well, you'd better get some of those programs, DVDs, or AudioCassettes, 
out there.

The male and female mexican voices were probably those of californian 
Apple employees.
They pronounce the english words used in mexican spanish as no mexican 
would be able to.
For instance the words beginning with S + consonant (a mexican would 
pronounce ES, not S).
So it's likely to be US mexican rather than mexican spanish.

Besides, the mexican spanish sounds a little special, not only to 
european but also to other latin american spanish speakers.

Manuel
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Eliminate doubles in a long list field

2003-06-27 Thread Ludovic Thébault
I've a long list field with double entry

I want to eliminate double.

I use this script :

 repeat for each line l in myLongList
   if l is not in myLongListWithoutDouble then
 put l&cr after myLongListWithoutDouble
   end if
 end repeat

But it's long. There is an another solution ? Thanks.
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Re: Voices

2003-06-27 Thread Manuel Companys
Le vendredi, 27 juin 2003, à 22:48 Europe/Paris, Stephen Messimer a 
écrit :

I am building an object that requires the use of the revSetSpeechVoice 
 command.  This is no problem for the Mac Classic and OSX platforms
However, the mexican voices are no longer here in Jaguar. Why?  We have 
now only english,  at least in the Jaguar released in Europe.

 but I am at a loss to find any reference to the existence of similiar 
functionality on the Windows. Does windows have voices as well and are 
there any voices with the same names as those found on apple systems.  
I would like to give my windows users the same functionality as I make 
available to those using Macs.
I need to know too, since my programs are meant to be cross plaform.

(I will be away from july,2 through july, 26.)

Manuel

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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Ken Norris
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:44:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: G5/Panther and Rev
> From: Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Perhaps there are image handling and a few other areas where fancy
> capability might apply.
--
That would certainly fall in line with Apple's re-assertion of dominance in
the audio-visual-publishing field.

I wish I could've gone to WWDC to get a feel for what it can do.

Thanks,
Ken N.

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RE: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Monte Goulding

>
> I want to create and populate an array. The arrays can contain numbers
> or string data that might include LF and paragraph breaks. Anyway I
> want to save the array and at later times open them as arrays. Although
> this isn't about operators working on data in arrays it is about
> changing the capabilities of arrays.
>

Sorry Mark

I'm still not getting you. I can't see what the difference is between what
you want above and the following:

 -- create and populate your array
 put whatever into tArray["something"]
 -- use the following to save the array
 set the customProperties["myArray"] of stack "savedArrays" to tArray
 save stack "savedArrays"
 -- use the following to load the array
 put the customProperties["myArray"] of stack "savedArrays" into tArray

Am I still way off?

Cheers

Monte

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Re: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Mark Brownell
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 08:17  PM, Monte Goulding wrote:

I'm a blockhead. I would love it if I could store arrays or even 
better
dimensional arrays, both loading them from, and saving  them to a
variable. I could use them for XML transformation, pull parser
techniques, and queried interfaces between XML and database tables for
faster and easier uses. They could even act as simple databases for
general uses. As it is now I must pre-populate an array before using 
it.

HI Mark

Maybe I don't understant what you want but check out 
customPropertySets.

Regards

Monte
Monte,

I want to create and populate an array. The arrays can contain numbers 
or string data that might include LF and paragraph breaks. Anyway I 
want to save the array and at later times open them as arrays. Although 
this isn't about operators working on data in arrays it is about 
changing the capabilities of arrays.

Mark

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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 09:22 PM, Shao Sean wrote:

it looks like it was putting () around the "binfile:" &
tFilePath -> ("binfile:" & tFilePath)
Maybe the two syntaxes "char ... to ..." and the "set ... to ..." had 
too many to's to be parsed without the (), too.

Dar Scott

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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread Shao Sean
it looks like it was putting () around the "binfile:" &
tFilePath -> ("binfile:" & tFilePath)
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RE: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Monte Goulding

> 
> I'm a blockhead. I would love it if I could store arrays or even better 
> dimensional arrays, both loading them from, and saving  them to a 
> variable. I could use them for XML transformation, pull parser 
> techniques, and queried interfaces between XML and database tables for 
> faster and easier uses. They could even act as simple databases for 
> general uses. As it is now I must pre-populate an array before using it.
> 
HI Mark

Maybe I don't understant what you want but check out customPropertySets. 

Regards

Monte
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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread Shao Sean
weird.. i built a new stack and put your code in, and then
modified it to use the code i wrote (using the selectedChunk
function) it worked.. i'll check to see what's different in
my original stack..

RR2.01
WinXP (home)

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>   answer file "Choose an image:"
>   set the imagesource of char 1 of fld 1 to
> ("binfile:"&it)

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Re: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Mark Brownell
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:06  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 09:44 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

Maybe it would possible for the engine to keep arrays that are the 
result of arithmetic in a special form, just as it keeps the results 
of simple arithmetic in a special form.  That special form might be 
optimized for speed and maybe take advantage of SIMD instructions.  
However, I suspect only a few of us use arithmetic on arrays and then 
only a few of that group use very large arrays.
Hmmm.  There was recent discussion of block encryption...  Now if 
bitXor, and [ ]  could be expanded appropriately, maybe blocks could 
be encrypted and decrypted in parallel.  And with a slight improvement 
in binaryEncode and binaryDecode maybe variables in those can be 
arrays.

Maybe if array operation semantics were expanded to other operators, 
we might find more applications of array operators.  Such as 
encryption.

This should be good for ECB mode and for much or most of other modes.

I wonder where else array operators might be handy.

Dar Scott
I'm a blockhead. I would love it if I could store arrays or even better 
dimensional arrays, both loading them from, and saving  them to a 
variable. I could use them for XML transformation, pull parser 
techniques, and queried interfaces between XML and database tables for 
faster and easier uses. They could even act as simple databases for 
general uses. As it is now I must pre-populate an array before using it.

Mark Brownell

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Re: G5/Panther and ... Encryption (was G5/Panther and Rev)

2003-06-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 09:44 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

Maybe it would possible for the engine to keep arrays that are the 
result of arithmetic in a special form, just as it keeps the results 
of simple arithmetic in a special form.  That special form might be 
optimized for speed and maybe take advantage of SIMD instructions.  
However, I suspect only a few of us use arithmetic on arrays and then 
only a few of that group use very large arrays.
Hmmm.  There was recent discussion of block encryption...  Now if 
bitXor, and [ ]  could be expanded appropriately, maybe blocks could be 
encrypted and decrypted in parallel.  And with a slight improvement in 
binaryEncode and binaryDecode maybe variables in those can be arrays.

Maybe if array operation semantics were expanded to other operators, we 
might find more applications of array operators.  Such as encryption.

This should be good for ECB mode and for much or most of other modes.

I wonder where else array operators might be handy.

Dar Scott



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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread David Vaughan

On Saturday, Jun 28, 2003, at 02:01 Australia/Sydney, Klaus Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,

if you would like to read that macuser review by yourself, go to:

http://macuser.pcpro.co.uk/

and look for "Reviews", where you will find the RR review...

I did, and noticed something else I think worth mention.

Quite often on this list, comments are made on the documentation. Many of those are helpful but as a reference point for those comments I quote the MacUser article:
"The Transcript dictionary is provided as a searchable Revolution document, and each entry is well explained. With tools such as this good documentation is essential, and Revolution's is exceptional. "

with regards to the minimally-photographed Jeanne.

David 
Judge yourself...


Regards

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Graham
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:41:04 -0600, Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry, Rob, I have to disagree here the person who wrote the review is
Keith Martin, and he has been using SuperCard and HyperCard for years (he is
very active on the SuperCard list). So he doesn't qualify for the
"writer-only" issue of which you speak. If anything, he may be a bit
SuperCard-biased, although other than a couple of mentions of SuperCard, he
doesn't seem to be acting in a biased way.
[]
Does this sound like a "no-mice" review to you? I give MacUser UK the same
number of mice it gave Rev: 4.5.


I'm with Ken on this - Keith certainly qualifies as a developer, and has a 
deep experience of SuperCard as Ken says. Looks from the Web version that 
he wasn't given much space to write his review - I've often felt that 
MacUser UK is rather heavily biased to the graphic arts community which may 
account for this limitation (OK some graphics people are developers, but 
not the majority).

Anyway it's great that Revo has had some publicity - I want it market to be 
as big as possible!

BTW, thanks to Heather for the pix and stuff - as everyone says, it's nice 
to know what people look like, even if (as in my case) they look a bit like 
your kids...

Graham

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Re: Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?

2003-06-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:33  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My previous experiences with RealBasic are so that the replies from 
Realsoftware are very
fast. Also does the Supercard team.
Joel, as a former realbasic programmer, I can tell you that runrev's 
support and mailing list is as good or better than Real Software. And 
the product is better in my opinion ;-)

But remember that only the Pro license comes with "official" tech 
support. The free and SBE licenses do not include support, I think. 
Otherwise you just have this mailing list and a few others to ask 
questions.

On this list there are hobbyist, shareware developers, commercial 
developers, in-house corporate developers. All kinds. Welcome!

From your email signature I see you are doing medical imaging research. 
I am developing a Revolution external for the CLIPS expert system. 
Medicine is one of the classic expert system domains. Let me know if 
are interested in CLIPS.

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Re: WWDC news and pictures

2003-06-27 Thread erik hansen

--- Jan Schenkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And for those wondering about pictures of the
> rest of the team, go to : 
> http://www.runrev.com/company/team.html

fascinating reading.
is Ten Thumbs Typing Tutor allied with RR?

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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/27/03 4:00 PM, Shao Sean wrote:

thanks, but the docs say _not_ to use the URL keyword (but
i'll try it anyways)
Yeah, that's what Dar pointed out too, and you are both right. I wasn't 
thinking. To make up for it, I did a test. This works for me on OS X:

 answer file "Choose an image:"
 set the imagesource of char 1 of fld 1 to ("binfile:"&it)
So all I can think of, if it doesn't work for you, is that maybe the 
path isn't quite right in your script.

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Win XP and BMP

2003-06-27 Thread Stu Duncan
Importing a BMP in Win XP crashes Revolution. Other formats import
correctly. Has anyone else had this problem?

Stu Duncan


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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote:

> So no mice at all to MacUser for their article.

I give Keith's article at least 4.5 mice.  :)

Check out the heading:

> VERDICT: Before Revolution, the world of cross-platform
> software production was restricted to specialists versed
> in arcane programming languages, but now it is limited
> purely by the user's imagination.

Could you ask for a more positive summary?

Well, you could ask for a near-perfect 4.5 out of 5 rating -- which he gave
Rev as well.

Also, note that he has one of the best price summaries for Rev anywhere,
which cites the low Biz Edition primarily but also manages to include most
of the others, and in surprisingly few words:

> PRICE: $299 (Professional Single User Licence $995.
> Educational K-12 Multi User 25-pack $500.)

Considering that Keith Martin is a long-time SuperCard expert, one might
almost expect him to be a little more critical of Rev in a Mac-focused venue
like MacUsr UK.  But his journalistic integrity apparently overrides his
long-time passion for SC, and as a whole I think the article paints a very
positive picture of Revolution.

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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread Shao Sean
thanks, but the docs say _not_ to use the URL keyword (but
i'll try it anyways)

- Original Message Follows -
> I think it is missing a "url" designation. Also, I don't
> always get good  results with urls unless I put them in
> parentheses. Try:
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Voices

2003-06-27 Thread Stephen Messimer
Hi all,

I am building an object that requires the use of the revSetSpeechVoice  
command.  This is no problem for the Mac Classic and OSX platforms but 
I am at a loss to find any reference to the existence of similiar 
functionality on the Windows. Does windows have voices as well and are 
there any voices with the same names as those found on apple systems.  
I would like to give my windows users the same functionality as I make 
available to those using Macs.

Thanks,

Steve

Stephen R. Messimer, PA
208 1st Ave. South  
Escanaba, MI 49829
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Re: Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?

2003-06-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
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> My own very short experience is that I registered through the Internet for
> some license of Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial
> to unlock the free version. I also sent an email yesterday but still no
> reply.

The free version requires no license key.  You're good to start playing with
it the moment you're done installing it.

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread rod mccall

Sorry, Rob, I have to disagree here the person who wrote the 
review is
Keith Martin, and he has been using SuperCard and HyperCard for years 
(he is
very active on the SuperCard list). So he doesn't qualify for the
"writer-only" issue of which you speak. If anything, he may be a bit
SuperCard-biased, although other than a couple of mentions of 
SuperCard, he
doesn't seem to be acting in a biased way
I would say that I agree with Ken Ray's comments above. In general we 
we were very happy with the review in MacUser, while 5 out 5 would have 
been nice, 4.5 in our book is a pretty good score. Also given Keith 
Martin's expertise I'd say 4.5 is an even better score!

We've got more reviews due soon and so far MacUser and Computer World 
(New Zealand) have been very positive, and everyone here at Runtime is 
smiling!

In relation to comments regarding reviewers, it has been noted that a 
few magazines simply do not have reviewers who are experienced enough 
to examine developer tools. However in virtually every case these 
magazines have said so at the outset and have declined the invitation.  
In other cases they have hired freelancers with experience of developer 
tools  and (where possible) of Revolution (or other xTalk environments).

Anyway we'll be making more announcements regarding press coverage over 
the coming months. As ever people are welcome to email me if they wish 
to discuss the matter further.

Best,

Rod

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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:20  AM, Ken Norris wrote:

I don't know what SIMD is. Can you explain?
Also the G5's SIMD unit is identical to "Altivec" which has existed 
since the G4. So if nobody made a G4 plugin for Runrev, it's probably 
not going to happen for G5's either.

The other aspect to the G5 is it's 64-bit ness. I don't know what that 
means from a practical perspective for a product like runrev. Probably 
not a whole lot. Other than your app could use 8 GB of memory if it 
wanted to!

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Re: How to Get First Image of a Movie (.mov)

2003-06-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mathewson wrote:

> Quicktime Pro allows you to export any frame of an .mov
> file in PICT format - it can then be processed with a
> graphics program to produce what evre format turns you on.
> 
> A screen capture can also do the trick.  On Macintosh
> systems Cmd-Shift-3 captures the whole screen, Cmd-Shift-4
> allows you to capture part of the screen (PDF file with Mac
> OS X, PICT with earlier Mac systems).  My experience with
> Windows is limited.

And you can do screen capture right in Rev with the import command.

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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 10:56 AM, Alex Rice wrote:

What Dar said in his post :-) He more than I about it probably.
Everything I know is a quarter century out of date.

Or more.

Dar

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Re: shell() vs the socket

2003-06-27 Thread Zac Elston
zac wrote:
 
 
when using 
read from socket thesocket until return 
write shell(it) to socket thesocket 
  
I get 
:command not found

ahh.  I see your problem.
you need to chop off the CRLF from the command before shelling it

delete char -2 to -1 of it

:)

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Vlahos
Gee. I think it is a pretty good review of Revolution.

Bill Vlahos

On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 07:35  AM, Klaus Major wrote:

Hi all,

if you would like to read that macuser review by yourself, go to:

http://macuser.pcpro.co.uk/

and look for "Reviews", where you will find the RR review...

Judge yourself...

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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:20  AM, Ken Norris wrote:

Yep, that's what I meant. I understand the backwards compatibility. I 
hear
the new Pentium 64-bit chip won't do that.
Yeah that's crazy of Intel. AMD's 64 bit chips don't have that 
limitation?!

But, I wanted to know if MC/RR will make use of it in the near future.

I don't know what SIMD is. Can you explain?
What Dar said in his post :-) He more than I about it probably. If any 
of you are a feeling particularly adventurous, on OS X do

man vecLib [return] in terminal.app

	NAME
 AltiVec vecLib vMathLib BLAS LAPACK vDSP vBigNum vBasicOps Vector
 Computation Velocity Engine Extended Math Library - This man page 
intro-
 duces the vector instruction set extension to the PowerPC 
architecture
 known as Velocity Engine (or AltiVec) and its accompanying 
libraries and
 programming support in Mac OS X.
	...

I'm not sure if this man page gets installed with the Apple Developer 
Tools CD, or if it's there on clean installs of OS X too.

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Cozens
Sorry, Rob, I have to disagree here
I will defer to your experience in this case, Ken.

My remarks were made in general without specific focus on the Mac User article.
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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 09:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

I think it is missing a "url" designation. Also, I don't always get 
good results with urls unless I put them in parentheses. Try:

set the imagesource of char x of fld y to URL ("binfile:"&tFilePath)
The TD warns that this is probably not what is desired.  Perhaps the 
absolute path is not interpreted absolute.

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Re: imageSource and "binfile:"

2003-06-27 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/26/03 10:57 PM, Shao Sean wrote:

sorry, i forgot to type that in in my email (yes it's there
in the code)..
set the imageSource of char (word 2 of the selectedChunk) of
field (the last word of the selectedChunk) to "binfile:" &
tFilePath
I think it is missing a "url" designation. Also, I don't always get good 
results with urls unless I put them in parentheses. Try:

set the imagesource of char x of fld y to URL ("binfile:"&tFilePath)

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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:20 AM, Ken Norris wrote:

I don't know what SIMD is. Can you explain?
Single-Instruction -- Multiple-Data

A single machine instruction that applies to several groups of data 
items in concert.  This need not be at the same time, the processor 
might quickly iterate through these.

We have this as a high-level language feature in Transcript.  For 
example, + can work on arrays as well as numbers.  This does not mean 
that this is translated to an SIMD instruction in the engine 
implementation.  However, the feel is the same.

Maybe it would possible for the engine to keep arrays that are the 
result of arithmetic in a special form, just as it keeps the results of 
simple arithmetic in a special form.  That special form might be 
optimized for speed and maybe take advantage of SIMD instructions.  
However, I suspect only a few of us use arithmetic on arrays and then 
only a few of that group use very large arrays.

Perhaps there are image handling and a few other areas where fancy 
capability might apply.

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Ken Ray
> "In my experience, software reviewers are writers, not developers,
> and their reviews are rarely done in a depth that would qualify them
> to proclaim any real knowledge or understanding of the product they
> review."

Sorry, Rob, I have to disagree here the person who wrote the review is
Keith Martin, and he has been using SuperCard and HyperCard for years (he is
very active on the SuperCard list). So he doesn't qualify for the
"writer-only" issue of which you speak. If anything, he may be a bit
SuperCard-biased, although other than a couple of mentions of SuperCard, he
doesn't seem to be acting in a biased way.

> Now a 4-page spread with lots of juicy pix of a prog. in
> development would have said a lot more than MacUser's
> rather stuffy text.  If RR is, as MacUser claims,
> programming for the non-geeky; as we all know it is
> (honestly, I'm not geeky) then it should have been backed
> up with images of drag-and-drop and object programming.
> Reading the article I felt rather sad because it
> singularly failed to give an impression of the passion one
> could rapidly feel when 'fooling around' with RR.

How often do you get to see a "4-page spread with lots of juicy pix" for ANY
program? Don't get me wrong; I agree it would have been better to show more,
but Keith did cover most of the bases, and the only "negatives" he gave in
his article were related to menus (which he attributed to the cross-platform
nature of Rev - which is true) and the pricing structure.

In my opinion, it was a GLOWING review... look at the final two paragraphs
of the article - a place where reviewers tend to get mealy-mouthed and say
things like "if it had ___ it would be great" or "you judge for yourself",
but instead says:

-
Revolution 2.0.1 delivers everything its name promises. It is a
broad-ranging and potent tool which, with a little practice, puts enormous
power into the hands of the user.

Before Revolution, the world of cross-platform software production was
restricted to specialists versed in arcane programming languages, but now it
is limited purely by the user's imagination.
-

Does this sound like a "no-mice" review to you? I give MacUser UK the same
number of mice it gave Rev: 4.5.

Ken Ray
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> From: Rob Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:29:01 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 4 and a bit mice..
> 
>> MacUser has no passion, no balls, and, frankly, would not
>> make me interested in RR at all!
>> 
>> So no mice at all to MacUser for their article.
>> 
>> Come on, fight me, disagree with me, feedback 
>> intellectual ferment.
> 
> No argument here, Richmond...
> 
> but I would extend the statement to Macworld as well and software
> reviewers as a group.
> 
> On 31 May I posted [Dan's Post re RunRev's HyperCard Roots],
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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> CCW, Serendipity Software Company
> http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm
> 
> "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
> Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."
> 
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Re: G5/Panther and Rev

2003-06-27 Thread Ken Norris
Hi Alex,

Thanx for the Re.

> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 00:38:04 -0600
> Subject: Re: G5/Panther and Rev
> From: Alex Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 09:11  PM, Ken Norris wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Can someone on the list give us a rundown on some of the implications
>> of Rev
>> and the MC engine working with the new Mac G5 PPC and OS 10.3 Panther?
>> 
> I'm no hardware expert, but there is no need to worry- the G5 is
> totally backwards compatible for 32 bit PPC software. All your software
> will continue to run as normal.
> 
> Something that would be really cool, however, would be a set of
> externals for doing SIMD routines on various architectures like Altivec
> (g4,g5), Intel and AMD also have their own SIMD instruction sets.
> Kinda like how Adobe is going to release a photoshop "g5 plugin" to
> utilize those routines.
--
Yep, that's what I meant. I understand the backwards compatibility. I hear
the new Pentium 64-bit chip won't do that.

But, I wanted to know if MC/RR will make use of it in the near future.

I don't know what SIMD is. Can you explain?

Ken N.

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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Klaus Major
Hi all,

if you would like to read that macuser review by yourself, go to:

http://macuser.pcpro.co.uk/

and look for "Reviews", where you will find the RR review...

Judge yourself...

Regards

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P.S.
I added a new page on my website, that will let you get to
the x-talk section immediately without loosing the navigation
frames.
www.major-k.de/revstart.html

Bookmark & enjoy :-)

P.S.S.
The "links"-page is not empty anymore ;-)
Drop a line if you wnat a link to your website, too.
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Re: 4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Cozens
MacUser has no passion, no balls, and, frankly, would not
make me interested in RR at all!
So no mice at all to MacUser for their article.

Come on, fight me, disagree with me, feedback 
intellectual ferment.
No argument here, Richmond...

but I would extend the statement to Macworld as well and software 
reviewers as a group.

On 31 May I posted [Dan's Post re RunRev's HyperCard Roots],

"In my experience, software reviewers are writers, not developers, 
and their reviews are rarely done in a depth that would qualify them 
to proclaim any real knowledge or understanding of the product they 
review."

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4 and a bit mice......

2003-06-27 Thread Mathewson
So I rushed out to the shop to buy MacUser because of the
article on RR

I left the mag on the shelf (tight wad) because, although
MacUser did award RR the mice I thought the article was
pretty feeble and did not do RR justice.

Now a 4-page spread with lots of juicy pix of a prog. in
development would have said a lot more than MacUser's
rather stuffy text.  If RR is, as MacUser claims,
programming for the non-geeky; as we all know it is
(honestly, I'm not geeky) then it should have been backed
up with images of drag-and-drop and object programming.
 Reading the article I felt rather sad because it
singularly failed to give an impression of the passion one
could rapidly feel when 'fooling around' with RR.

About 11 years ago I was doing an MA at a university in the
US when my wife and I bought a Macintosh from a Montgomery
Ward shop (Europeans need to think of big supermarkets)
because it was the cheapest machine we could get our hands
on ($1500).  We cracked open the box and there was
HYPERCARDand suddenly the depression created by years
of MiniFortran, Fortran 4, Pascal, Zilog and Basic went
flying out the window, and, Oh Boy, within an hour I had
something semi-respectable up and running.  When Hypercard
was allowed to die (Mr Jobs is a rat!) I was very sad and
got lumbered with TOOLBOOK.

So, on returning to Scotland after many years abroad, as
well as the rain, the snow, the greasy food, the narrow
mindedness, and so forth; there was Runtime Revolution;
which was an even bigger kick than Hypercard.

MacUser has no passion, no balls, and, frankly, would not
make me interested in RR at all!

So no mice at all to MacUser for their article.

Come on, fight me, disagree with me, feedback 
intellectual ferment.

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Re: WWDC news and pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Rob Cozens
Unfortunately there don't seem to be any pictures at all of
Jeanne,
Heather, Sarah, et al:

If I recall correctly, Jeanne was the person taking the pictures.

Sounds like the List wants a cameo photo of you, Jeanne.:{`)
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Message for Joel Gillod

2003-06-27 Thread Heather Williams
I'm sorry to use the list for this but...

Joel, your ISP is blocking my emails as spam. Please could you either give
me another email address to contact you on, or contact your ISP and ask them
to allow mail from runrev.com?

Regards,

Heather

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Re: WWDC news and pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 06/27/2003 at 09:06 AM Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Sarah. Unfortunately there don¹t seem to be any pictures at all 
of
> Jeanne, I'll have to get someone onto that. I'm not at WWDC - we can't 
all
> go you know, or who would be here to keep an eye on you lot? But I did 
find
> a pic with me in from the Macuser awards, and have posted it, for what 
it's
> worth.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Heather

Didn't an older version of Revolution (mabe v1.1) have photos of the staff 
in the "About Revolution" dialog? You should add that back. Who cares if 
the download is a few K bigger (no more than a web page)? It is nice to 
see the faces of the wonderful folks that make and support the best 
programming environment known to human-kind!

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Licence to open free version of RR ??

2003-06-27 Thread Mathewson
Joel wrote:

"I registered through the Internet for some license of 
Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial
to unlock the free version."

not at all clear what this means...either one uses the
Free version, which needs not licence at all (Thank you,
Thank you, Thank you to RunRev for all us scratchers in the
dust who have made insufficient money to pay for a full
licence), or one has a licence for the PRO version.

My experinece of Runtime Revolution is that they are an
extremely friendly bunch who go to great lengths to help
with all sorts of questions, however goofy they may be.

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Re: WWDC news and pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Heather Williams
> But how come we only got to see the guys? What about a few photos of
> Jeanne & Heather.

Thanks Sarah. Unfortunately there don¹t seem to be any pictures at all of
Jeanne, I'll have to get someone onto that. I'm not at WWDC - we can't all
go you know, or who would be here to keep an eye on you lot? But I did find
a pic with me in from the Macuser awards, and have posted it, for what it's
worth.

Regards,

Heather

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Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?

2003-06-27 Thread joel . guillod
Dear Revolution Developers,

As far as I have been enable to test it these last weeks, Revolution appears as a very 
mature and advanced product. Being a first days Hyper- and Supercard user, I am 
convinced that Runtime Revolution Ltd should be very proud of their product because 
they 
have done a pretty good job until yet.

Leaving the implementation part of the product, I am wondering to know what you as 
developers and users are saying about the company. Is it responsive? Could we count on 
the company that the product will live a long time, being enhanced and bug corrected 
in a 
raisonable amont of time? That developers are listened for a best (R)evolution?

My own very short experience is that I registered through the Internet for some 
license of 
Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial to unlock the free version. 
I also 
sent an email yesterday but still no reply.

My previous experiences with RealBasic are so that the replies from Realsoftware are 
very 
fast. Also does the Supercard team. Then the meaning of my questions about the 
Revolution company: I have been waiting for a while for the second version annonced 
many 
months ago. Now it is here and is working quite fine (ok few bugs but very few for an 
upgrade). So, I decided to move and to make development first for academic projects 
to, 
maybe later on, commercial ones. And now I have to admit that things may be going very 
slow...

So, let me know if I will be able to do serious development with Revolution. I am 
convinced 
that my own problem is just a small failure somewhere but the doubt has been raised.

If you prefer for privacy, please reply directly to me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

King Regards and good pleasure with Revolution,

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Re: read/write Palm DBs

2003-06-27 Thread Heather Williams
> BTW my e-mail account gets rapidly flodded with posts from this list.
> Wouldn't it be
> more comfortable to have a forum instead of a mailing list?

Set your list preferences to digest. Then you will only get one or two
messages a day, consisting of all the posts that have come in during the
day. Much more manageable that way,

Regards,

Heather

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Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?

2003-06-27 Thread joel . guillod
Dear Revolution Developers,

As far as I have been enable to test it these last weeks, Revolution appears as a very 
mature and advanced product. Being a first days Hyper- and Supercard user, I am 
convinced that Runtime Revolution Ltd should be very proud of their product because 
they 
have done a pretty good job until yet.

Leaving the implementation part of the product, I am wondering to know what you as 
developers and users are saying about the company. Is it responsive? Could we count on 
the company that the product will live a long time, being enhanced and bug corrected 
in a 
raisonable amont of time? That developers are listened for a best (R)evolution?

My own very short experience is that I registered through the Internet for some 
license of 
Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial to unlock the free version. 
I also 
sent an email yesterday but still no reply.

My previous experiences with RealBasic are so that the replies from Realsoftware are 
very 
fast. Also does the Supercard team. Then the meaning of my questions about the 
Revolution company: I have been waiting for a while for the second version annonced 
many 
months ago. Now it is here and is working quite fine (ok few bugs but very few for an 
upgrade). So, I decided to move and to make development first for academic projects 
to, 
maybe later on, commercial ones. And now I have to admit that things may be going very 
slow...

So, let me know if I will be able to do serious development with Revolution. I am 
convinced 
that my own problem is just a small failure somewhere but the doubt has been raised.

If you prefer for privacy, please just reply directly to me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

King Regards and good pleasure with Revolution,

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Re: Bug in RR 2.0.1 ???: missing the point....

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Mathewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is missing the point.
> 
> (I have my own kinky reasons for importing .mov
> files into
> stacks)
> 
> I worked out about setting the prefs to show audio &
> video
> clips donkey's years ago; not the point at all.
> 
> The point is VERY SIMPLE:  at the top of the RR
> 1.1.1
> Application Browser there is a 'delete' button with
> a
> Trashcan Icon.  There is no 'delete' button in the
> RR 2.0.1
> Application Browser
> and I am unable to delete media clipstried
> through
> 'Edit' menu where it says 'clear text' !!!
> 
> Now at the moment I am trying to build a RR stack
> that will
> export frames from .mov files as image files
> (),
> and think that to do this I prob. have to import the
> .mov
> files first.
> 
> Richmond Mathewson
> 

Hi Richmond,

Ah, yes. I'm sorry, I missed the point then.
I can't check it right now, but what options do you
get in the contextual menu when you right-click /
control-click on the videoclip ?

As for making a snapshot of the first frame : use a
player without a controller, set its fileName to the
movie's path, and then use the 'import snapshot'
command to take a picture of the first frame (or any
other frame you like)

Hope this helped,

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Re: Bug in RR 2.0.1 ???

2003-06-27 Thread Wolfgang M. Bereuter
On Freitag, Jun 27, 2003, at 12:32 Europe/Vienna, Jan Schenkel wrote:

First of all, go to the 'Preferences' (in the 'Edit'
menu) ; use the list on the left hand to go to the
'Application browser' prefreences.
Use the checkboxes at the top to show audio and video
clips. Now you should be able to review and remove the
video clips by using the 'Application browser' (in the
'Tools' menu)
I dont understand why this is unchecked in 2.x now by default. It was 
not in the old Applov.
Imho its would be better to have this boxes checked by default.

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Bug in RR 2.0.1 ???: missing the point....

2003-06-27 Thread Mathewson
This is missing the point.

(I have my own kinky reasons for importing .mov files into
stacks)

I worked out about setting the prefs to show audio & video
clips donkey's years ago; not the point at all.

The point is VERY SIMPLE:  at the top of the RR 1.1.1
Application Browser there is a 'delete' button with a
Trashcan Icon.  There is no 'delete' button in the RR 2.0.1
Application Browser
and I am unable to delete media clipstried through
'Edit' menu where it says 'clear text' !!!

Now at the moment I am trying to build a RR stack that will
export frames from .mov files as image files (),
and think that to do this I prob. have to import the .mov
files first.

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Re: read/write Palm DBs

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Lars Lewejohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the quick reply! (and sorry for the
> double post - I used the 
> wrong
> email-address...)
> 
> Jan Schenkel wrote:
> 
> >Hi Lars,
> >
> >If you need cross-platform without the headaches of
> >Java, then Revolution is the way to go :-)
> >AFAIK, no one here has written a library yet for
> >reading and/or writing pdb files. 
> >
> Thats  the bad  news I expected  :-)
> 
> >However, a bit of
> >googling turned up the file format specs at :
>
>http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/fileformats/PDB_PRCFormat.html
> >
> jep, I've seen that before and I was hoping there
> might be some tools at 
> hand for easily
> converting to a RR-read-/writeable format (that
> would have been the 
> perfect argument
> for imediatly registering with revolution)
> 
> >So this shouldn't be too hard to accomplish :-)
> >
> Well, I just dicovered RR last night. Even though I
> have some C and PHP 
> source code
> doing the trick this probably will not be a perfect
> start :-) I'll see 
> how far I get
> and I will most likely come back here and bother
> with some questions...
> 
> BTW my e-mail account gets rapidly flodded with
> posts from this list. 
> Wouldn't it be
> more comfortable to have a forum instead of a
> mailing list?
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Lars
> 

Hi Lars,

Since you're new to Revolution, I'd advise playing
around with the tutorials first. After you have more
of a feel on how to build a project, open up the
transcript dictionary, and have a look at the entries
for 'binaryEncode' and 'binaryDecode'
Those functions allow you to turn binary data into
Revolution variables and back.

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Re: WWDC Pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Vikram Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about the reclusive Guru of all- Scott Raney?
> Dont remember seeing a 
> picture of him ever...
> 
> Vikram
> 

Can anyone make a picture of God ?

Just kidding, of course ; and my apologies to any
religious people I may have offended with the question
above.

Seriously, it would be nice to have a picture of The
Man himself. Can anyone pull something out of their
vast photo archives ?

Or would that result in a public beheading, Scott ? 
;-)

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Re: Bug in RR 2.0.1 ???

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Mathewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have just started a stack that imports .mov files:
> as I
> am fiddling around with this I am obviously clicking
> the
> import button any number of times!!!
> 
> Each time I click my button it imports another
> instance of
> my sample movie (unsurprisingly); however, I cannot
> get rid
> of these videoClips again!
> 
> Bloat, bloat,bloat
> 
> Now in RR 1.1.1 the application browser allowed me
> to
> delete imported files (remember those lovely little
> buttons
> along the top???), but this does not seem possible
> in RR
> 2.0.1.
> 
> Also videoClips imported in this way are not showing
> up in
> the property inspector.
> 
> Help, advice, Please...
> 
> Richmond Mathewson
> 

Hi Richmond,

First of all, go to the 'Preferences' (in the 'Edit'
menu) ; use the list on the left hand to go to the
'Application browser' prefreences.
Use the checkboxes at the top to show audio and video
clips. Now you should be able to review and remove the
video clips by using the 'Application browser' (in the
'Tools' menu)

Now that your immediate problem ought to be solved,
it's time to point out that Runtime Revolution i
deprecating the audio and videoclips in favor of the
use of players.
The question is whether or not it would be more
appropriate to leave the movies where they are (thus
allowing easier updating of their contents), than to
add to the stack size by importing them as a whole.

My advice would be : unless you _really_ need to embed
the movies, just use a player object ; fiddle its
settings to suit and change the fileName property to
point to a different movie.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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WWDC Pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Vikram Singh
What about the reclusive Guru of all- Scott Raney? Dont remember seeing a 
picture of him ever...

Vikram



--- Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys! Just a note, to let you know that for once,
> I've managed to acquire
> and upload some pictures of the team in action at
> WWDC. Also a rather nifty
> video taken with the new iSight camera, if you're
> interested...
>
> www.runrev.com/Revolution1/news.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Heather
>
> --
> Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>

>I wonder if your insurance company is going to up the
>premium after having seen the video ;-)
>Nevertheless, like the others said, it's great to
>finally put some faces next to the names.

>And for those wondering about pictures of the rest of
>the team, go to : http://www.runrev.com/company/team.html
>where you'll see tiny pictures of Iain, Jeanne, Mark
>and Heather as well as Frédéric Rinaldi.

>The only one left eluding the camera so far is Dave
>Cragg -- c'mon, send a picture to Heather, you can do
>it... :o)

>Jan Schenkel.

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Bug in RR 2.0.1 ???

2003-06-27 Thread Mathewson
I have just started a stack that imports .mov files: as I
am fiddling around with this I am obviously clicking the
import button any number of times!!!

Each time I click my button it imports another instance of
my sample movie (unsurprisingly); however, I cannot get rid
of these videoClips again!

Bloat, bloat,bloat

Now in RR 1.1.1 the application browser allowed me to
delete imported files (remember those lovely little buttons
along the top???), but this does not seem possible in RR
2.0.1.

Also videoClips imported in this way are not showing up in
the property inspector.

Help, advice, Please...

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Re: Esperanto & Revolution

2003-06-27 Thread Toma Tasovac
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 09:23  AM, Manuel Companys wrote:

Le mercredi, 25 juin 2003, à 21:26 Europe/Paris, Toma Tasovac a écrit :

I was thinking of writing a little Unicode tutorial anyway...
That's a pretty good idea! It would help us
Thanks, Manuel, although I must say I am less and less confident about 
my knowledge every day... :)

On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 02:04  AM, Igor Couto wrote:

3) How can I put an Esperanto label on a button? Setting the textFont 
of the button to ",Unicode", and then trying to enter a label in the 
Inspector, doesn't work. Trying to set it via script doesn't work 
either. What can I do?
This is the only one I can answer right away.  The inspector is a 
disaster for Unicode input, so pretty much you have to forget it.  What 
you need to do is save you button labels in a utf8 encoded text file, 
one label per line.  Then do the following:

on openStack
put uniencode (url "file:esperantoButton.txt", "utf8") into tTemp
set the itemDel to cr
set the label of button "Button 1" to item 1 of tTemp
set the label of button "Button 2" to item 2 of tTemp
-- etc...
end openStack
 I've just tested it with "ĉeĥa ŝaŭmanĝaĵo" and it worked fine.  Once 
you import these labels from the text file and save your stack, just 
get rid of the above script.  Next time you open the stack, all the 
labels will be there -- displaying correctly.

Now, I will play a little more with your other questions and see if I 
get anywhere.  Don't get your hopes up, though, I am not an expert, 
just a total Unicode desperado... :)

All best,
Toma
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copying tab delimited text to excel

2003-06-27 Thread Alex Rice
I have a field with tab stops (string & tab & string & linefeed etc). 
On OS X, I can Command-C and Command-V to copy paste tab-delimited data 
into MS Excel v.X.

On Windows, using Control-C, Excel 2000 doesn't see anything on the 
clipboard. Oh wait... I guess there is nothing on the clipboard at all. 
Is there some trick to getting copy-paste from a field to work on 
Windows, or do I have to implement it myself using rawKeyDown and 
clipboard etc?

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How to Get First Image of a Movie (.mov)

2003-06-27 Thread Mathewson
Quicktime Pro allows you to export any frame of an .mov
file in PICT format - it can then be processed with a
graphics program to produce what evre format turns you on.

A screen capture can also do the trick.  On Macintosh
systems Cmd-Shift-3 captures the whole screen, Cmd-Shift-4
allows you to capture part of the screen (PDF file with Mac
OS X, PICT with earlier Mac systems).  My experience with
Windows is limited.

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Re: WWDC news and pictures

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys! Just a note, to let you know that for once,
> I've managed to acquire
> and upload some pictures of the team in action at
> WWDC. Also a rather nifty
> video taken with the new iSight camera, if you're
> interested...
> 
> www.runrev.com/Revolution1/news.html
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Heather
> 
> -- 
> Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

I wonder if your insurance company is going to up the
premium after having seen the video ;-)
Nevertheless, like the others said, it's great to
finally put some faces next to the names.

And for those wondering about pictures of the rest of
the team, go to : 
http://www.runrev.com/company/team.html
where you'll see tiny pictures of Iain, Jeanne, Mark
and Heather as well as Frédéric Rinaldi.

The only one left eluding the camera so far is Dave
Cragg -- c'mon, send a picture to Heather, you can do
it...  :o)

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mexican voices in OS X

2003-06-27 Thread TOM DIOLA
Hi,
Saw your post and was wondering how to get those mexican voices working 
in OS X. My Son is taking Spanish in High School and it would be nice 
to have him emulate the accents.

Tom Diola  :o)



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