Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:41 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: What constitutes a "platform" in the case of the *nixs anyway? Do I need different licenses for each flavor? If you are talking about Express, yes, you would need separate licenses. Express is intended for hobbyists and similar users. Note that apps built with Express have a built-in Revolution closing screen. But in this case you should be considering Studio instead, which builds for all of them. regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:41 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: Maybe. I wasn't sure. Right now you have access to all of those databases through ODBC, I'm mnot sure if they are talking about ODBC access, or full SQL access. If so, that's a BIG improvement. At the same time, it becomes a big negative that you can't develop on the PC (for example) and deliver somethign that will run as a web app on a linux server. It's direct access, not ODBC. So everyone can start cheering now ;-) You could get a copy of Studio to deliver to other platforms. regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
It's my understanding that the 30-day trial will function more similarly to the industry norm: no network connection required, but no starter kit functionality afterward. On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:16 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: I was sort of assuming that the 30-day trial period edition was similar to what we currently have: regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
No -- if you don't need the other features of the Enterprise edition, you could buy the Studio edition for Windows for $199, and the Express edition for Mac for $75. This combination would allow you to build for any platform, and debug natively on Windows and OS X, for $274. Also note that the Enterprise edition is currently $599, which is roughly $400 cheaper than it has ever been. (At least in the six years of history I'm familiar with) On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 07:52 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: Um...something seems very wrong here. It's going to cost $1199 to do any kind of real cross-platform development!?!?! According to this list, I am going to need to develop under windows, and if I want test and debug something for the Mac I will need to either pay $1199, or test on the mac using the free version and WRITE DOWN all the error bugs, since I can't edit scripts longer than 10 lines on my test machine!?!? regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file permission problems with running runrev on Mac OS X
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 01:55 AM, Joel Rees wrote: Am I the only person who does most work on Mac OS X as a non-admin user? I, too, do not do day-to-day work as an admin. I put my Revolution folder into the very top of my User folder and that seems to work. It seems I have versions all over the place, desktop, documents and so on and they work. Dar Scott Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
>Hmm. Looks like there's a new pricing model for Rev now and talk of >V2.02. (http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html) > >Sigh. Call me silly, but I always hoped we'd here about this stuff first >on this list, rather than seeing it on the web site. It's so those of us who recently paid twice the price don't have a fit. :) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 2.02/New pricing
> It seems there is no 'Free' edition listed also. If this from the website: "After the 30-day period expires, the Evaluation Edition is transformed into the Free Edition. You can continue to use the Free Edition as long as you want, but to remove the length limitation on scripts, or to continue to use Professional Edition features such as non-ODBC database connections after the evaluation period has passed, you must purchase a license." ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1611 - 14 msgs
Hi Bill, > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:32:00 -0400 > Subject: What Gives? > From: Simtech Publications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Is anyone else having these problems? --- I'm not. Mine is fine, G4 tower, OS 9.2.1 But I do recall some problems when I first used 2.0.1. If the stacks you open have established filepaths to 1.1.1, you can have problems. Best suggestion I can make is to trash or disable 1.1.1 so that the stacks cannot access it when you open them. I threw my old 1.1.1 folder AND the 2.0.1 folder away and downloaded the new version again, so it was fresh and the only one available on the drive. No problems since then. HTH, Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 2.02/New pricing
> > Um...something seems very wrong here. It's going to cost $1199 to do any > kind of real cross-platform development!?!?! According to this list, I am > going to need to develop under windows, and if I want test and debug > something for the Mac I will need to either pay $1199, or test on the mac > using the free version and WRITE DOWN all the error bugs, since I > can't edit > scripts longer than 10 lines on my test machine!?!? > > I'm understand the need to make money, but sacraficing the cross-platform > appeal of revolution for all the but the highest end users dosn't > seem like > the way to do it to me. I think it's reasonable. I imagine this came about because so many people opted for the Small Biz version so RunRev needed to introduce a major difference between the versions. You could always use an Express or Eval version for testing and bug fixing. > > What is a feature update, by the way? > I think it's a minor update. 2.0 -> 2.1. The 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2 updates would be bug fixes and the 2.0 -> 3.0 updates would be major file structure changes. I think this is a big plus for the Studio Version compared to the Small Biz version. > I was sort of assuming that the 30-day trial period edition was similar > to what we currently have: Don't assume anything. We don't know if RunRev was maintaining the Free Version just to compete with MC or not. With such a cheep version being introduced what value is it to RunRev to maintain the Free Version? If I were RunRev I'd dump it because it will stop people buying the Express version. Long term Free Version users are a drain on RunRev's resources and the cost of that drain ends up in the hands of users that pay. Regards Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 09:02 PM, Sarah wrote: It all sounds good to me although I need to see the upgrade options & prices. The odd thing is that when I went to the downloads page to see if 2.0.2 was available, I could only get 1.1.1 or 2.0RC1. I seem to have slipped into a time warp here :-) Perhaps there is a goof with the MacWorld show and all and the latter is really it. Dar Dar Scott Consultinghttp://www.swcp.com/dsc/Programming Services ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
Maybe. I wasn't sure. Right now you have access to all of those databases through ODBC, I'm mnot sure if they are talking about ODBC access, or full SQL access. If so, that's a BIG improvement. At the same time, it becomes a big negative that you can't develop on the PC (for example) and deliver somethign that will run as a web app on a linux server. What constitutes a "platform" in the case of the *nixs anyway? Do I need different licenses for each flavor? I'm really not complaining - it's way to early for that. I just have questions. Edwin Gore - Original Message - > - They are enabling full (except Oracle) database functionality for all > versions. I think was previously only for Pro licenses? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
How does the new pricing scheme relate to this? Runtime Revolution 2.1 -- which was demonstrated at the CreativePro expo today -- is the latest update to the user-centric, multi-platform software development environment. Revolution 2.1, now in beta, will contain dozens of improvements. Mac OS X developers will benefit from the addition of "metal" appearance, dra wers, and other interface creation improvements. It is available for half-price ($200) until July 23. Alan Simon On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 11:16 PM, Howard Bornstein wrote: Well in theory the improve list is meant to hear about things first. Oops, you're right. I meant to post this on the improve list. It seems there is no 'Free' edition listed also. I was sort of assuming that the 30-day trial period edition was similar to what we currently have: "After the 30-day period expires, the Evaluation Edition is transformed into the Free Edition. You can continue to use the Free Edition as long as you want, but to remove the length limitation on scripts, or to continue to use Professional Edition features such as non-ODBC database connections after the evaluation period has passed, you must purchase a license." Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 2.02/New pricing
>Well in theory the improve list is meant to hear about things first. Oops, you're right. I meant to post this on the improve list. >It seems there is no 'Free' edition listed also. I was sort of assuming that the 30-day trial period edition was similar to what we currently have: "After the 30-day period expires, the Evaluation Edition is transformed into the Free Edition. You can continue to use the Free Edition as long as you want, but to remove the length limitation on scripts, or to continue to use Professional Edition features such as non-ODBC database connections after the evaluation period has passed, you must purchase a license." Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:52 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: Um...something seems very wrong here. It's going to cost $1199 to do any kind of real cross-platform development!?!?! It's definitely a major change to the licensing. There are some negatives. However, some pluses too: - They are enabling full (except Oracle) database functionality for all versions. I think was previously only for Pro licenses? - They are also including more support with each license. - And the 50% off deal Also, the 30 day trial is all-platforms/all-platforms. In a pinch I bet a Studio user could use a trial license to debug a particularly platform specific bug using the IDE on that platform. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
It all sounds good to me although I need to see the upgrade options & prices. The odd thing is that when I went to the downloads page to see if 2.0.2 was available, I could only get 1.1.1 or 2.0RC1. I seem to have slipped into a time warp here :-) Sarah On Thursday, July 17, 2003, at 12:51 pm, Monte Goulding wrote: Hmm. Looks like there's a new pricing model for Rev now and talk of V2.02. (http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html) Sigh. Call me silly, but I always hoped we'd here about this stuff first on this list, rather than seeing it on the web site. Well in theory the improve list is meant to hear about things first. Seeing as there has been no announcement there I'd say that 2.0.2 would be another minor bugfix relase. I also don't think they will announce until the page and shopping cart are completed. I'm not suprised at the changes in license pricing. It was inevitable that once RunRev had the engine they would have more flexibility to both provide the cheep version many people have demanded and push the boundaries with the top end version now that they no longer compete with MetaCard. I'll be interested to see how the 'deploy on one platform' version is enforced though. It seems there is no 'Free' edition listed also. If this is the case I imagine the list will ignite for a few days. In the end, 30 days is sufficient to evaluate the product and work out which version is right for you. It should also be noted that according to that page there are some absolute bargain prices going at the moment. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
Oh wait - as Monte has pointed out in his post, it looks like the free version is going away. So, after 30 days it will be impossible to test on another platform. Can someone explain how this will work? - Original Message - > test on the mac > using the free version and WRITE DOWN all the error bugs, since I can't edit > scripts longer than 10 lines on my test machine!?!? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 2.02/New pricing
Um...something seems very wrong here. It's going to cost $1199 to do any kind of real cross-platform development!?!?! According to this list, I am going to need to develop under windows, and if I want test and debug something for the Mac I will need to either pay $1199, or test on the mac using the free version and WRITE DOWN all the error bugs, since I can't edit scripts longer than 10 lines on my test machine!?!? I'm understand the need to make money, but sacraficing the cross-platform appeal of revolution for all the but the highest end users dosn't seem like the way to do it to me. What is a feature update, by the way? - Original Message - From: "Howard Bornstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: Rev 2.02/New pricing > Hmm. Looks like there's a new pricing model for Rev now and talk of > V2.02. (http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html) > > Sigh. Call me silly, but I always hoped we'd here about this stuff first > on this list, rather than seeing it on the web site. > > Howard Bornstein > > D E S I G N E Q > www.designeq.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev 2.02/New pricing
> > Hmm. Looks like there's a new pricing model for Rev now and talk of > V2.02. (http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html) > > Sigh. Call me silly, but I always hoped we'd here about this stuff first > on this list, rather than seeing it on the web site. Well in theory the improve list is meant to hear about things first. Seeing as there has been no announcement there I'd say that 2.0.2 would be another minor bugfix relase. I also don't think they will announce until the page and shopping cart are completed. I'm not suprised at the changes in license pricing. It was inevitable that once RunRev had the engine they would have more flexibility to both provide the cheep version many people have demanded and push the boundaries with the top end version now that they no longer compete with MetaCard. I'll be interested to see how the 'deploy on one platform' version is enforced though. It seems there is no 'Free' edition listed also. If this is the case I imagine the list will ignite for a few days. In the end, 30 days is sufficient to evaluate the product and work out which version is right for you. It should also be noted that according to that page there are some absolute bargain prices going at the moment. Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Movie with a mask?
well, THAT's easy. Thanks! --- Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peterson Trethewey wrote: > > > I need to play a movie with a mask, like a clip > > region, or an alpha channel. I figured out how to > do > > this sort of thing with a picture, but movies are > > totally different. Is it possible to tell a > player to > > do this? > > Yes: set the alwaysbuffer of the player to true, > then lay any masked image > over the player. > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Media Corporation > Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on > any site > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.FourthWorld.com > Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: > FourthWorldInc > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: variables, arrays, or custom properties
On 7/16/03 4:32 PM, erik hansen wrote: they used to say that globals were too volatile to rely on very long, so i have been saving to disk after each change. I don't know if I'd call them volatile, particularly. The only danger is if another stack uses the same variable name, which would allow it to change the value when you might not expect it. If you give your globals distinctive names and don't reuse those names in other stacks, there isn't any danger. Richard's stack-naming example works well with globals too; if your stack's name is "MyStack," then prefix all its globals with "gMS" or some other identifier, which reduces the chance that some other stack will reuse it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives? (Keyboard shortcuts)
i think it was mentioned earlier on the list to go into the prefs and reset them to the defaults (that should fix the keyboard navigation).. Hey it works! I'm saving easier again... :-) Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev 2.02/New pricing
Hmm. Looks like there's a new pricing model for Rev now and talk of V2.02. (http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/licensing1.html) Sigh. Call me silly, but I always hoped we'd here about this stuff first on this list, rather than seeing it on the web site. Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: file permission problems with running runrev on Mac OS X
FYI: > Am I the only person who does most work on Mac OS X as a non-admin user? > > (I'm sure I just didn't go back far enough in the archives to see an > answer for this.) > > Logged in as the user that I installed runrev as, runrev runs. > > Logged in as another user, runrev starts up and gives me the application > menu (second from left) and then just sits there. Now file menu, no edit > menu, no splash screen, no "do you agree to the license?" dialog, > nothing. I can quit from the application menu. There is no visible > response to any other item in the application menu. > > I thought this had to do with not installing runrev in the applications > folder, or with not being the primary admin user when I installed it. So > I tried installing into the applications folder (/Applications/dev, > actually) as the primary admin. Same thing. Changing the owner and > permissions to match those in the pre-installed applications doesn't > seem to change anything. > > Is this something I just have to live with? In other words, do I just > have to rip it out and re-install while logged in as the dev user? Just for fun, I tried installing runrev on a volume that is not my boot volume. (Non-boot volumes in Mac OS X tend to be given the permissions of the logged in user. This is fundamentally wrong, but the way it is, at least for the present.) That worked. I can log in as any user and runrev starts up just fine from the non-boot volume. Thinking about the license, I'm not sure that's what the folks at runrev wanted either. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: double-clicking stack on desktop
Thanks to Jackie and others for suggestion to change "double-clicking stack on desktop" behavior of Rev stacks to that of MetaCard by renaming application file. Here's the details, at least on Windows OS: I have many "personal" stacks (calendar, database, address) that I, or family, normally just want to double-click and "use" rather than edit. In MC, double-clicking a stack on the desktop opens the stack in Player, and ctrl-double-click opens stack in Development - opposite behavior to Rev. MC behavior is preferrable for these "personal" stacks you want to simply "use" most of the time. Would be nice if Rev had an option in Preferences for double-click behavior. Here's fix, at least for Windows OS: In Revolution distribution folder, copy Revolution.exe to a new file whose name doesn't start with "rev", e.g., Copy of Revolution.exe or mc.exe or mcrev.exe (but not revmc.exe). In Windows Folder Options (file types) control panel, create a new file type for "personal" stacks, e.g., RV (.rv extension) and then click Advanced button to specify they are to be opened by the renamed copy of Revolution.exe in Revolution distribution folder. Now, double-clicking an .rv stack on the desktop opens the stack in Player mode (with MC hand cursor and default font size but with Rev title-bar icon). Ctrl-double-click opens file in licensed MC Development if you have a licensed MC home stack somewhere on disk, or opens file in Starter Kit MC Development if you have an unlicensed MC home stack somewhere, or opens file in Player if there is no MC home stack on disk. Change extension of .rv file to .rev to edit file in Rev Development, then change it back to .rv to open in Player with double-click. Rich Herz [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.reactorlab.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives?
I've had a similar problem, but not so big. Suddenly, for just two or three days, I haven't been able to save by the keyboard. I can still toggle the message box. Since it's only saving, I'm just using the menu to save and going on ahead with work. When I get time or if it gets worse, I'll try resetting prefs or whatever and see what happens. Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Embedded fonts
As with most things in Revolution, it's all a matter of how insane you are. Is this text that needs to be edited by the USER, or by you and by your program. Because that makes a big difference. If it's just you or your program that need to edit the text, then you could write something that uses Rev's ability to insert graphics into fields to substiture PICTURES of the characters in a font for the characters themselves. I guess you could probably write something that intercepts the user's typing and puts the font images into the field instead. Like I said...how crazy are you? If you don't need the text to be editable but would really like to use a non-standard font then external PNG files created in Fireworks may be an option. Provided you don't compress them - ie just save them as 'standard' Fireworks files (Fireworks native format is PNG) - then you retain the ability to edit/style the text. Set up Fireworks as your external image editor from within Rev to take real advantage of this capacity. Cheers, Terry... -- ___ Dr Terry Judd Lecturer Biomedical Multimedia Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences The University of Melbourne Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 03 9344 0187 Fax: 03 9344 4998 ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Embedded fonts
>Like I said...how crazy are you? Uh, not that crazy. But thanks for the idea. ;-) As for the idea of using QT to show Flash SWF files, this still requires Windows users to have QuickTime installed--not always an obvious assumption. So if I have to get them to run a QT installer, I might as well get them to install the font itself. Regards, Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives?
On 7/16/03 5:32 PM, Simtech Publications wrote: I'm finding that I can't use any keyboard shortcuts at all. Does it also happen when you create a brand new stack? If not, then the problem may be a commandkey handler in your older stack. Is anyone else having these problems? No, not at all. I'm running Mac OS 10.2.6 with Rev 2.0.1. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives?
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 04:32 PM, Simtech Publications wrote: Is anyone else having these problems? My small business license runs out on July 23. I've already deleted Director MX from my hard drive. Do I need to do the same with Rev and maybe turn to REALBasic? What's a small spftware developer to do? Bill, welcome back to Rev. I use Rev 2.0.1 daily on Mac OS X 10.2.6 and it does not exhibit any of the behaviors you describe. The only thing I can suggest is to read the all of the release notes for Rev 2.0 & 2.0.1 because there are a fair number of transcript changes- maybe something in your stack is getting tripped up there. See IDE Docs | Development Guide | Developing with Revolution | what's new in version 2.x Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives?
> Is anyone else having these problems? well if the key commands are your only problems, that's not too bad.. i have those problems as well as the fact that i'm stuck on a windows xp machine ;-) i think it was mentioned earlier on the list to go into the prefs and reset them to the defaults (that should fix the keyboard navigation).. > My small business license runs out on July 23. I've even though your license runs out, your copy of RunRev will still be a good full-working copy after that date > already deleted Director MX from my hard drive. Do I need anyone else use director back when the company was called macromind? > to do the same with Rev and maybe turn to REALBasic? i wanted to try out the windows version of RB (i used to use mac version of RB all the time), but i need to email them and get a temp serial number and stuff (too many hops for me).. > What's a small spftware developer to do? write software =) -Sean ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What Gives?
It has been very stable for me on OS X 10.2.6. Bill Vlahos On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 03:32 PM, Simtech Publications wrote: I'm just getting back to Rev after a long absence, having fooled around too long with Director MX for Mac OS X. Too bad Macromedia has turned it's back on Mac users with that stinking lousy piece of beta software. Anyway, I'm now running Rev 2.0.1 under OS X v10.2.6 and it's acting extremely flakey (Rev not Jaguar). I mean EXTREMELY flakey. At first I thought the problems were caused by having imported older Rev 1.1.1 stacks into Rev 2.0.1 so I spent all day reconstructing one particular stack. I'm finding that I can't use any keyboard shortcuts at all. None. Can't navigate from the keyboard, can't save the stack from the keyboard, can't toggle the message box. Nothing. Nada. This is extremely frustrating. I thought it might be my machine at work (an older slot loading 300 mHz G3 iMac) so I brought the stack home and the same problems occurred on my brand new 1 GHz G4 iMac. I tried both the PPC and OS X versions of Rev 2.0.1 with the same results. Is anyone else having these problems? My small business license runs out on July 23. I've already deleted Director MX from my hard drive. Do I need to do the same with Rev and maybe turn to REALBasic? What's a small spftware developer to do? Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
What Gives?
I'm just getting back to Rev after a long absence, having fooled around too long with Director MX for Mac OS X. Too bad Macromedia has turned it's back on Mac users with that stinking lousy piece of beta software. Anyway, I'm now running Rev 2.0.1 under OS X v10.2.6 and it's acting extremely flakey (Rev not Jaguar). I mean EXTREMELY flakey. At first I thought the problems were caused by having imported older Rev 1.1.1 stacks into Rev 2.0.1 so I spent all day reconstructing one particular stack. I'm finding that I can't use any keyboard shortcuts at all. None. Can't navigate from the keyboard, can't save the stack from the keyboard, can't toggle the message box. Nothing. Nada. This is extremely frustrating. I thought it might be my machine at work (an older slot loading 300 mHz G3 iMac) so I brought the stack home and the same problems occurred on my brand new 1 GHz G4 iMac. I tried both the PPC and OS X versions of Rev 2.0.1 with the same results. Is anyone else having these problems? My small business license runs out on July 23. I've already deleted Director MX from my hard drive. Do I need to do the same with Rev and maybe turn to REALBasic? What's a small spftware developer to do? Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: variables, arrays, or custom properties
I have been saving to disk after each change. My main reason for doing this is because different sections are bookmarked, and different data is manipulated in each section. So after a section has been completed, the appropriate data is written to the database and the bookmark is updated. Chris --- erik hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On 7/16/03 10:35 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > > > > globals), arrays, or custom properties. > > > > Or combine two of those methods and use a > > global variable that contains > > an array. I've had good luck with this > > approach. Globals provide the > > fastest access of the three methods you > > mention, and arrays are the > > fastest way to access individual chunks of > > data. A global array also has > > the advantage of being available to all the > > scripts in the stack and > > keeps all the information in one tidy > > container. > > are you getting this array from disk, > making changes, then saving it back to disk? > and is this saving at the end of the session > or as you go? they used to say that globals were > too volatile to rely on very long, so i have > been saving to disk after each change. > > Erik > > = > [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution = Chris Sheffield Read Naturally www.readnaturally.com __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: variables, arrays, or custom properties
--- "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/16/03 10:35 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > > globals), arrays, or custom properties. > > Or combine two of those methods and use a > global variable that contains > an array. I've had good luck with this > approach. Globals provide the > fastest access of the three methods you > mention, and arrays are the > fastest way to access individual chunks of > data. A global array also has > the advantage of being available to all the > scripts in the stack and > keeps all the information in one tidy > container. are you getting this array from disk, making changes, then saving it back to disk? and is this saving at the end of the session or as you go? they used to say that globals were too volatile to rely on very long, so i have been saving to disk after each change. Erik = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Embedded fonts
This would work well if you were just getting the text entered into the Flash Track into Rev since you could send DebugStr messages to Rev from the QT movie. Setting the text of this flash track would be more difficult with Revs current QuickTime support. A QT movie can request info from Rev if Rev is listening to a port on the localhost or by having Rev write an xml file to the harddrive that QT reads but Rev can't push data to a QT movie. What would be nice is if Revolution supported sending messages to movies. QT supports intermovie communication where movies can send messages to each other if the playback environment supports it. The web plugin, qt player and apps like iShell support this currently. What would be cool is if Rev could mimic this intermove communication and allow you to send messages to a movie as if Rev was a QT movie. Then you could have true communication between Rev and QuickTime. Another useful thing that Rev could support is setting the QTList for a qt movie to use when it opens. Currently when you embed a qt movie in a web page with the embed/object tag you can specify an xml list in the "MovieQTList" tag. When the QuickTime movie opens it has access to this xml list and can use the data in it for initialization of the movie. Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/16/03 Ken Ray wrote >One possibility is to use QuickTime to play a Flash SWF that has your >editable fields in it (I *think* this will work); Flash will embed the >fonts and Rev can take advantage of it... > >Ken Ray >Sons of Thunder Software >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded fonts
Recently, "Ken Ray" wrote: > One possibility is to use QuickTime to play a Flash SWF that has your > editable fields in it (I *think* this will work); Flash will embed the > fonts and Rev can take advantage of it... This is a very cool idea Ken but can Rev access the field contents if needed? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disappearing substack...
--- Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This reminds me of a habit I use that may be > useful to others: > > Stacks have bth a name and a title property. > When the title is empty, the > stack title is drawn with an asterisk (or > followed by the card number if > more than one card). To regain control over > the appearance of the window > title I almost always use the stack's title > property, which has one other > advantage: I can now name the stack anything I > want without affecting its > appearance. > > Since stack names are used for identification, > and because they can cause > conflicts when other stacks are present with > the same name, I've found it > useful to use descriptive abbreviations for > stack names, things like > "wmProgress" for the WebMerge progress window. > This makes it easy to > identify in a stack listing tool and is far > less likely to run into name > space conflicts. with buttons you have name and label. you can label a button "60" and name it "b60" avoiding any confusion with the sixtieth btn. Erik = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Embedded fonts
One possibility is to use QuickTime to play a Flash SWF that has your editable fields in it (I *think* this will work); Flash will embed the fonts and Rev can take advantage of it... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Howard Bornstein > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Embedded fonts > > > I just want to confirm something about embedded fonts. Basically you > can't do it in Rev, correct? (Ok, I believe you can embed > fonts on Mac > systems as resources, but if you want cross-platform > compatibility, you > can't do it). > > So if you create a stack or standalone and want the same typeface to > appear across platforms, then you have to pick a typeface > that's common > to the platforms you're building for, correct? (Like > developing for the > web). > > I'm talking about editable text. I understand you can convert any > typeface to a graphic and use that anywhere. > > But to have compatibility of typefaces across platforms, you > either have > to pick a typeface that's standard for the platforms or get > the user to > install your desired fonts. Is this correct? > > Thanks, > > Howard Bornstein > > D E S I G N E Q > www.designeq.com ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-> revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Embedded fonts
As with most things in Revolution, it's all a matter of how insane you are. Is this text that needs to be edited by the USER, or by you and by your program. Because that makes a big difference. If it's just you or your program that need to edit the text, then you could write something that uses Rev's ability to insert graphics into fields to substiture PICTURES of the characters in a font for the characters themselves. I guess you could probably write something that intercepts the user's typing and puts the font images into the field instead. Like I said...how crazy are you? >- --- Original Message --- - >From: Howard Bornstein >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:22:39 > >I just want to confirm something about embedded >fonts. Basically you >can't do it in Rev, correct? (Ok, I believe you can >embed fonts on Mac >systems as resources, but if you want >cross-platform compatibility, you >can't do it). > >So if you create a stack or standalone and want the >same typeface to >appear across platforms, then you have to pick a >typeface that's common >to the platforms you're building for, correct? >(Like developing for the >web). > >I'm talking about editable text. I understand you >can convert any >typeface to a graphic and use that anywhere. > >But to have compatibility of typefaces across >platforms, you either have >to pick a typeface that's standard for the >platforms or get the user to >install your desired fonts. Is this correct? > >Thanks, > >Howard Bornstein > >D E S I G N E Q >www.designeq.com >___ >use-revolution mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu >tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Embedded fonts
Recently, "Howard Bornstein" wrote: > to have compatibility of typefaces across platforms, you either have > to pick a typeface that's standard for the platforms or get the user to > install your desired fonts. Is this correct? Yes. Several cross platform font names have been mentioned on the list: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica (some folks claim they don't have this one), Courier and probably Times. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Embedded fonts
I just want to confirm something about embedded fonts. Basically you can't do it in Rev, correct? (Ok, I believe you can embed fonts on Mac systems as resources, but if you want cross-platform compatibility, you can't do it). So if you create a stack or standalone and want the same typeface to appear across platforms, then you have to pick a typeface that's common to the platforms you're building for, correct? (Like developing for the web). I'm talking about editable text. I understand you can convert any typeface to a graphic and use that anywhere. But to have compatibility of typefaces across platforms, you either have to pick a typeface that's standard for the platforms or get the user to install your desired fonts. Is this correct? Thanks, Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: variables, arrays, or custom properties
On 7/16/03 10:35 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I have a stack that is going to make use of quite a bit of different data, and I'm wondering what is the best to use out of regular variables (many of them will have to be globals), arrays, or custom properties. Or combine two of those methods and use a global variable that contains an array. I've had good luck with this approach. Globals provide the fastest access of the three methods you mention, and arrays are the fastest way to access individual chunks of data. A global array also has the advantage of being available to all the scripts in the stack and keeps all the information in one tidy container. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: matchchunk
Richard, You need to pass variables to hold the start/end chunk in the matchChunk command (they don't need to have a value), but the regular expression needs to have parentheses around the value you want to look for so it can "extract" its location into the two variables. Like this: on mouseUp local b,c put "abcdefg" & return & "hijk" into a put matchchunk(a, "(def)", b, c) into x put b && c && x end mouseUp Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ > From: Richard Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:50:38 +0100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: matchchunk > > Dear All, > > put "abcdefg"& return & "hijk" into a > put 1 into b > put 1 into c > put matchchunk(a, "def", b,c) into x > put b && c && x > > Gives ' true' > > I cannot work out what I am doing wrong here. I want to find the > location of matched text in a list but I do not get values returned. I > am sure there is a simple solution. Suggestions? > > Many thanks, Richard. > > > -- > Richard J Adams e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Department of Anatomyt: +44 1223 333782 > University of Cambridge f: +44 1223 333786 > Downing Street > Cambridge, CB2 3DY > UK > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disappearing substack...
Well, one good thing is coming out of it. In order to avoid running into the problem again (and rewriting the 200K help section AGAIN), I am breaking most of my substacks out into mainstacks in a subfolder and calling them from my main stack. I would have had to do this at some point in order to facilitate easier updating over the internet anyway. I just have to remember to password protect all of them before distributing. >- --- Original Message --- - >From: Alex Rice >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:10:58 > > >On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 12:57 PM, Edwin >Gore wrote: > >> By george, I think you've got it! >> >> Each time that this has happened, it was when I >was working on >> integrating altBrowser stuff into my project, and >I had my project and >> the altBrowser project open at the same time. >Altbrowser has a >> substack named "Help". >> >> I'm guessing that this is the problem. So it's >Chipp's fault! (just >> kidding Chipp!) > >Thanks for confirming. >For me this was one of those "Am I going crazy or >should I bug report >it?" kind of things :-) > >Alex Rice, Software Developer >Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. >http://ARCplanning.com > >___ >use-revolution mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu >tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disappearing substack...
Edwin Gore wrote: > By george, I think you've got it! > > Each time that this has happened, it was when I was working on integrating > altBrowser stuff into my project, and I had my project and the altBrowser > project open at the same time. Altbrowser has a substack named "Help". > > I'm guessing that this is the problem This reminds me of a habit I use that may be useful to others: Stacks have bth a name and a title property. When the title is empty, the stack title is drawn with an asterisk (or followed by the card number if more than one card). To regain control over the appearance of the window title I almost always use the stack's title property, which has one other advantage: I can now name the stack anything I want without affecting its appearance. Since stack names are used for identification, and because they can cause conflicts when other stacks are present with the same name, I've found it useful to use descriptive abbreviations for stack names, things like "wmProgress" for the WebMerge progress window. This makes it easy to identify in a stack listing tool and is far less likely to run into name space conflicts. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Default Buttons in OS X
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 05:06 AM, Bill Lynn wrote: I'm sure this question has been asked and answered but please indulge me a moment. In Rev 2.0.1 under Jaguar I'm noticing a gray rectangle around blue throbbing default buttons. Is there any way to get rid of it? If your background color is anything but "clear", then you can not have a default button overlap another object. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: matchchunk
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 09:50 AM, Richard Adams wrote: I cannot work out what I am doing wrong here. I want to find the location of matched text in a list but I do not get values returned. I am sure there is a simple solution. Suggestions? I usually use matchText, but I expect matchChunk is much the same. You need to put parentheses around the parts you want to include in variable char indexes. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Disappearing substack...
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 12:57 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: By george, I think you've got it! Each time that this has happened, it was when I was working on integrating altBrowser stuff into my project, and I had my project and the altBrowser project open at the same time. Altbrowser has a substack named "Help". I'm guessing that this is the problem. So it's Chipp's fault! (just kidding Chipp!) Thanks for confirming. For me this was one of those "Am I going crazy or should I bug report it?" kind of things :-) Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Re: Disappearing substack...
By george, I think you've got it! Each time that this has happened, it was when I was working on integrating altBrowser stuff into my project, and I had my project and the altBrowser project open at the same time. Altbrowser has a substack named "Help". I'm guessing that this is the problem. So it's Chipp's fault! (just kidding Chipp!) >- --- Original Message --- - >From: Alex Rice >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 09:36:23 > > >On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 12:06 PM, Edwin >Gore wrote: > >> I'm running into a very strange problem. The >"Help" stack of a project >> I am working on keeps disappearing. It's a >substack, and nothing else >> seems to be afffected. Because I am stupid, this >means that I have so >> far had to re-write the help section twice, since >I have been saving >> frequently, but didn't make a back-up copy after >finishing it (I am >> now using Chipp's archiver religiously!). >> >> My question is this - what the heck is >happening!?!? At first I >> thought that maybe I had accidently used a >"delete stack" command >> someplace, but searching the scripts doesn't find >anything. Neither >> does searching for "clear stack". >> >> Are there any other synonyms for "Delete Stack" >that I am missing? Is >> there any way to detect that a stack is being >deleted so I can trap >> that when it happens and trace this down? Is >there anything else that >> anyone can thing of that could be doing this? >It's really irritating. >> > >Edwin, is it possible you have another mainstack >with a substack of the >same name, and opening the mainstacks at the same >time, effectively >having two substacks of the same name open at once? >I've filed a bug >report involving this issue. > >Bugzilla Bug 143 >naming collisions w/ open substacks >having same name >-- > >Here's the scenario > >create mainstack 1 >add substack and rename to "fu" >create mainstack 2 >add substack >-- now try to rename substack to "fu" with the >inspector tool. >-- name reverts to "Untitled x" >-- (that's already repeatable) > >(next issue) > >save both mainstacks >close mainstack 1 >rename substack of mainstack 2 to substack "fu" >save and close mainstack 2 >open mainstack 1 >open mainstack 2 >-- now you have two substack "fu"s open >-- do work in ide >-- save and close mainstack 1 >-- reopen mainstack 1 now it is missing substack >"fu" >-- The do work in ide seems to be key here. It's >not always repeatable. > > > >Alex Rice, Software Developer >Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. >http://ARCplanning.com > >___ >use-revolution mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolu >tion ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Disappearing substack...
I'm running into a very strange problem. The "Help" stack of a project I am working on keeps disappearing. It's a substack, and nothing else seems to be afffected. Because I am stupid, this means that I have so far had to re-write the help section twice, since I have been saving frequently, but didn't make a back-up copy after finishing it (I am now using Chipp's archiver religiously!). My question is this - what the heck is happening!?!? At first I thought that maybe I had accidently used a "delete stack" command someplace, but searching the scripts doesn't find anything. Neither does searching for "clear stack". Are there any other synonyms for "Delete Stack" that I am missing? Is there any way to detect that a stack is being deleted so I can trap that when it happens and trace this down? Is there anything else that anyone can thing of that could be doing this? It's really irritating. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Background graphic
OK, I went back to the basics and used the grouping of objects and then used the "Place group" menu item- and that seems to do the trick as advertised! (I made a group out of only one object, the image). Sorry for the false alarm. Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrow keys in Rev are evil
Curry, Did you try trapping for the arrow key at the stack level? I found I had to intercept the arrow key messages or Rev thought I wanted to advance to the next card. Trapping the message first fixed the problem. Rick Harrison Yeah, that's something to look out for too, but a different issue. It won't affect the behavior of the QT players. Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Default Buttons in OS X
Le mercredi, 16 juil 2003, à 14:06 Europe/Brussels, Bill Lynn a écrit : I'm sure this question has been asked and answered but please indulge me a moment. In Rev 2.0.1 under Jaguar I'm noticing a gray rectangle around blue throbbing default buttons. Is there any way to get rid of it? Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications ___ I've discussed this problem before and someone (I think Alex Rice or Sarah) gave me the answer I had the same and if you build your app, the rectangle will be black (horror !) you have a Tabbed btn in the background. Your btn must be out of the tabbed btn If you want a "striped" mac OS X bg, look in the image library, at the bottom row, the 3th column : you can set the bgpatterin of your cd (or your stack) to the ID of this image. cheers Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Date calculations - big thank you
Le mercredi, 16 juil 2003, à 15:23 Europe/Brussels, Dottor Zivago a écrit : Hi, do you want dates in European format : dd/mm/ for your calculations ? so, you need to tuse the systemdate ?? I can help you if necessary. Greetings. Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrow keys in Rev are evil
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 09:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Check out the navigationArrows property.
"Specifies whether the arrow keys move from card to card."
set the navigationArrows to {true | false}
Roger Eller
Roger,
Good point. I think I did that a little later.
It's been awhile since I had to deal
with the issue. Thanks for the reminder!
Rick Harrison
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Re: Arrow keys in Rev are evil
Check out the navigationArrows property.
"Specifies whether the arrow keys move from card to card."
set the navigationArrows to {true | false}
Roger Eller
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>> It's true
>>
>> When making a game, I noticed that the background music (played by QT
>> players) dropped out when I started playing and moved the character. I
>> was puzzled, and finally noticed that when a sound played at exactly
>> the same time as the music started, it didn't drop out, so I used that
>> as a workaround--playing a small sound whenever I started music.
>>
>> ...
>> Curry
>>
> Curry,
>
> Did you try trapping for the arrow key at the stack level?
>
> I found I had to intercept the arrow key messages or Rev
> thought I wanted to advance to the next card. Trapping
> the message first fixed the problem.
>
> Rick Harrison
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Re: conditions of use
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 02:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers, Does anyone know anything about legal disclaimers and conditions of use of software? Most of the things we see are written in American legalese and make no sense to anyone, I suspect not even the lawyers who draft them. Is there any *plain English* guidance for British software developers who want to make explicit the conditions of use and limit liability? Just write what you are thinking the license should be, in plain English :-) I think the main points you should cover are - you claim ownership and copyright over the source code and/or software - you grant a limited license to the user for particular uses and purposes - the user indemnifies you from damages and legal complaints - the user accepts the license by acknowledging the license text and using the software Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. http://ARCplanning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrow keys in Rev are evil
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 08:52 AM, curry wrote: It's true When making a game, I noticed that the background music (played by QT players) dropped out when I started playing and moved the character. I was puzzled, and finally noticed that when a sound played at exactly the same time as the music started, it didn't drop out, so I used that as a workaround--playing a small sound whenever I started music. ... Curry Curry, Did you try trapping for the arrow key at the stack level? I found I had to intercept the arrow key messages or Rev thought I wanted to advance to the next card. Trapping the message first fixed the problem. Rick Harrison ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: EDD calc
Ubaldo. This solution requires two fields and one button. No persistent storage container is required to hold the gestation info other than the button script. You could store this information in a field or custom prop but that really isn't necessary. Try this ... Create a field "LMP" for the user to type the LMP into. Create a button "EDD" Now go to the button's script and type" on mouseUp -- convert 280 days to seconds (60*60*24*280 = 24192000) for calculation put 24192000 into gest put fld "LMP" into lmpCalc convert lmpCalc to seconds add lmpCalc to gest -- now convert seconds back to the date convert gest to date into fld "EDDFld" end mouseUp now create a fld named "EEDFld" to place the calculated EED into. Hope this helps. By the way I married an Italian Woman. So I feel sort of like Familia. Ciao Steve Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208 1st Ave. South Escanaba, MI 49829 www.messimercomputing.com On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 05:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for another basic question to the list but: I would like to have a field as a container for a date, then a button that performs a calculation on that date and puts the result in another field. For instance, for a given LMP (last menstrual period) I need to calculate an EDD (estimated date of delivery) that is simply LMP+280 (and this is what I do in Excel or FileMaker). Plase, assume an IQ<=40; some lines to cut and paste between "on mouseup" and "end mouseup" would be very very appreciated. Thank you very much Ciao Ubaldo ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Date calculations - big thank you
Hi Sean, Thank you for your input. I have tried your suggestion and it works!!! Sarah, Your code works very well too!!! I have downloaded your calendar stack and it is very nice and usefull. Two questions for you: - is it possible (without too much work) to have Monday as the first day of week? - I would like to show national holidays in different colours; is there an easy way for a beginner to do this? Thank you very much for your kind suggestions and sorry for my English. Ciao from Italy Ubaldo PS "check that it is giving sensible answers before telling people when their baby is due :-) " As an obstetrician, the first thing you learn is that you can never trust "LMP" of women; better dating pregnancy by ultrasound :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Background graphic
Hi Ronald, OK, I've read the documentation and past postings on backgrounds and I still find it confusing. All I want is to have a large graphic appear behind the objects on all of my cards. I don't want to have an image on each card as it uses too much memory. I imported the image and then set it as the background for a card. This almost worked, but the image began tiling over itself before filling the card; about 60% of the graphic was repeated several times over the card. The graphic is a png file from Photoshop. Any suggestions? Hmm, sounds like you set the backgroundpattern of the stack/card to that image? Anyway, you can import that image (or reference it to the original file) and then group!!! that single image, set the backgroundbehaviour for that grp to true, set its layer to 1 and place that grp on every card you like. This way that image is only physically present (?) once but can be displayed on any card you like... Hope that helps. Ron Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Arrow keys in Rev are evil
It's true When making a game, I noticed that the background music (played by QT players) dropped out when I started playing and moved the character. I was puzzled, and finally noticed that when a sound played at exactly the same time as the music started, it didn't drop out, so I used that as a workaround--playing a small sound whenever I started music. But later, when I was working on other parts of the game--intro and menu screens--I noticed that music would drop out there too if the arrow key was held down. I put it on my list of issues to try to figure out when I got time. That's been several weeks ago. Finally today, it all came together and I realized what was going on. The QT players are interpreting the arrow keys (when held down for a moment) as a fast forward and rewind. But to show how devious it is--the QT players were not on the active card. They were in a separate (and invisible) window which was not active. Furthermore, the QT player can have the controller turned off and keyboard focusable turned off, and it *still* happens! The only way I found to avoid it is to hide the player object. (And I think it only happens when you use the browse tool.) Is this behavior due to Revolution or Apple? (If it's a Rev behavior, I would seriously suggest changing it to only affect the player if the window is active, and perhaps also only if the controller is shown.) Today I was amazed to find that arrow keys were also stopping an animation and found out that holding down arrow keys can stop handlers cold that are using "wait...with messages." It happens when navigationArrows are turned off, unless you trap arrowkey messages. It looks like the Rev IDE scripts may cause it; it didn't happen for me when I tried it with the engine only. I'll enter this in the bugzilla when I get to it, and in the meantime here's a demo stack in case anyone wants to see how it may affect a handler and avoid it: http://www25.pair.com/curry/evilarrows.rev.hqx (I didn't make a demo stack for the QT player issue because it's pretty easy to test--just set a player up to play a MIDI file.) I'm getting to dread arrow keys Why are they so cursed in Rev? Seriously though, the QT thing was a headache because although the solution is simple in the end, tracking it down is difficult because of such unexpected behavior. The wait drop-out is pretty surprising too, but I was lucky that I had just turned off navigation arrows when I noticed it--if I had them on before making the animation, I probably would have never figure it out. I sincerely hope that's all the arrow key issues I run up against for a while! I hope I can save somebody going through the same thing. Whew... Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Default Buttons in OS X
I'm sure this question has been asked and answered but please indulge me a moment. In Rev 2.0.1 under Jaguar I'm noticing a gray rectangle around blue throbbing default buttons. Is there any way to get rid of it? Cheers... Bill Lynn Simtech Publications ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Background graphic
OK, I've read the documentation and past postings on backgrounds and I still find it confusing. All I want is to have a large graphic appear behind the objects on all of my cards. I don't want to have an image on each card as it uses too much memory. I imported the image and then set it as the background for a card. This almost worked, but the image began tiling over itself before filling the card; about 60% of the graphic was repeated several times over the card. The graphic is a png file from Photoshop. Any suggestions? Ron ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Movie with a mask?
You can manipulate the clip using QT Pro beforehand and then display in a player in the stack. Rgds Vikram >= Original Message From Peterson Trethewey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >I need to play a movie with a mask, like a clip >region, or an alpha channel. I figured out how to do >this sort of thing with a picture, but movies are >totally different. Is it possible to tell a player to >do this? > >Thanks, >Peterson > ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
conditions of use
Listers, Does anyone know anything about legal disclaimers and conditions of use of software? Most of the things we see are written in American legalese and make no sense to anyone, I suspect not even the lawyers who draft them. Is there any *plain English* guidance for British software developers who want to make explicit the conditions of use and limit liability? Best wishes, David Glasgow Home/ forensic assessments --> http://members.aol.com/dvglasgow/";> DVGlasgow Courses --> http://www.i-Psych.co.uk";>i-Psych ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Movie with a mask?
Peterson Trethewey wrote: > I need to play a movie with a mask, like a clip > region, or an alpha channel. I figured out how to do > this sort of thing with a picture, but movies are > totally different. Is it possible to tell a player to > do this? Yes: set the alwaysbuffer of the player to true, then lay any masked image over the player. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
file permission problems with running runrev on Mac OS X
Am I the only person who does most work on Mac OS X as a non-admin user? (I'm sure I just didn't go back far enough in the archives to see an answer for this.) Logged in as the user that I installed runrev as, runrev runs. Logged in as another user, runrev starts up and gives me the application menu (second from left) and then just sits there. Now file menu, no edit menu, no splash screen, no "do you agree to the license?" dialog, nothing. I can quit from the application menu. There is no visible response to any other item in the application menu. I thought this had to do with not installing runrev in the applications folder, or with not being the primary admin user when I installed it. So I tried installing into the applications folder (/Applications/dev, actually) as the primary admin. Same thing. Changing the owner and permissions to match those in the pre-installed applications doesn't seem to change anything. Is this something I just have to live with? In other words, do I just have to rip it out and re-install while logged in as the dev user? -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan http://www.alpsgiken.co.jp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Movie with a mask?
I need to play a movie with a mask, like a clip region, or an alpha channel. I figured out how to do this sort of thing with a picture, but movies are totally different. Is it possible to tell a player to do this? Thanks, Peterson __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
