Using dd with shell()

[Jim Witte]

Hi,

  I've got this script that reads from a device with the shell command 
dd:

on mouseup
  put "/Users/jswitte/NewtText.txt" into fName
  ask "Count?" with "4"
  put it into countNum
  --get shell("dd if=/dev/rdisk1 of=/Users/jswitte/NewtText.txt 
count=1")
  get shell("dd if=/dev/rdisk1 of=" & fName && "count=" & countNum)
  if the result is not empty then
answer the result
  else
open file fname
read from file fname until EOF
put it into fld "rtext"
answer the length of it
close file fname
  end if
end mouseup

  The funny thing is, when I enter 87 for count, the text put in the 
field iis *shorter* than when I put in 86!  The lengths reported make 
sense though (87 is 44544, 86 is 44032).

  Also (though this is more a unix-y question that Rev), is there any 
way for dd to report progress and have this come back to Rev for a 
progress gaguge?

Thanks,
Jim
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RE: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Monte Goulding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> You've had quite a number of solutions but here's
> another one:
> 
> -- function to return the the time format (h:mm:ss)
> from an input in seconds
> function timeFormat timeInSecs
>   if timeInSecs = 0 then
> put "0:00:00" into timeInForm
>   else
> put format("%1d:%2d:%2d", timeInSecs div 60 div
> 60, timeInSecs div 60
> mod 60, timeInSecs mod 60) into timeInForm
> repeat with x = 1 to the number of chars of
> timeInForm
>   if char X of timeInForm is space then
> put 0 into char X of timeInForm
>   end if
> end repeat
>   end if
>   return timeInForm
> end timeFormat
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte
> 

You can shave off a few lines by replacing the "repeat
with X = 1 to ..." - loop with
  replace space with "0" in timeInForm
But I think our fellow listee has many, many options
to choose from now :-)

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Ludovic_Thébault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:43:58 +0200, François Cuneo
> wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I'm completely unable to works with saved and
> closed stack with my code.
> > When I close the stack and I save it, if I load
> the stack again or change
> > her name, I have a message that says that I'm
> trying to load a stack already
> > opened.
> > So when I close the stack, I want to purge it from
> memory.
> > Is it possible??
> 
> In Stack Property, check the 'Purge stack on close'.
> 
> But why this button is not "true" by default ?
> 

Actually, I consider that a life-saver. It has
happened to me in the past that I clicked the wrong
button in response to "Do you want to save changes?" ;
needless to say one shouldn't touch the mouse after
being distracted.
But with Revoluton, no more howling in frustration :
open the ApplicationBrowser, and go back to it. And if
you want to revert, use the same AppBrowser to close
and remove from memory.
The only times I set a stack's "destroyStack" property
[*] to true, is if it's a temporary stack and I don't
want it to eat up memory after closing it.

Jan Schenkel.

[*] "destroyStack" doesn't mean your stack will be
deleted from your hard drive, just from memory ; a
better name would have been "purgeStack"

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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

[Ludovic Thébault]

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:43:58 +0200, François Cuneo wrote:
> Hello!
> I'm completely unable to works with saved and closed stack with my code.
> When I close the stack and I save it, if I load the stack again or change
> her name, I have a message that says that I'm trying to load a stack already
> opened.
> So when I close the stack, I want to purge it from memory.
> Is it possible??

In Stack Property, check the 'Purge stack on close'.

But why this button is not "true" by default ?
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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Steve Gehlbach]

Alex Rice wrote:

Great!  Uh, how do I edit that?  I can't even see it except from 
terminal.  I found an editor called pico, but I wonder if there is a 
better way.  I have become GUI-flabby and I can't get up!

Dar Scott


I do "sudo emacs /etc/inetd.conf" :-)

On linux I use: su -c "vi /etc/inetd.conf"  -- vi as many know is a sys 
admins editor with a, oh, 3 year or so learning curve.  But I'm really 
fast with it, though somewhat older.

-Steve

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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Alex Rice]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 06:09  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

Great!  Uh, how do I edit that?  I can't even see it except from 
terminal.  I found an editor called pico, but I wonder if there is a 
better way.  I have become GUI-flabby and I can't get up!

Dar Scott
I do "sudo emacs /etc/inetd.conf" :-)

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
http://ARCplanning.com
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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Dar Scott]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

Edit /etc/inetd.conf and uncomment their lines
Great!  Uh, how do I edit that?  I can't even see it except from 
terminal.  I found an editor called pico, but I wonder if there is a 
better way.  I have become GUI-flabby and I can't get up!
I remember now.  I use the long name of textEdit down into the .app.  I 
changed users to do this, though.

Dar

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Re: Hiliting a listfield line as I type?

[yoy]

Rob,

That's EXACTLY the behavior ("Scroll To") I want!

But... how do I read the scripts? I opened the stack via the Open Stack menu
but I can't get it into edit mode. It doesn't show in the Application
Browser.. Sorry to appear so clueless.

But that's it!

Thanks!

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Cozens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Hiliting a listfield line as I type?


> >My lockedtext listfield has a list of applications. With focus on this
> >field, the user should be able to start typing a name of the application
and
> >the listfield should scroll to and hilite the matching line as soon as
> >possible.
> >
> >I've seen some KeyUp examples but they don't achieve this behavior..
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Look at the script of Transcript Dictionary's field  preceded by the
> "Filter with" popUp.
> -- 
> Rob Cozens, CCW
> Serendipity Software Company
> http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm
>
> "And I, which was two fooles do so grow three.
>   Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."
>
>  From "The Triple Foole"
> by John Donne 1573-1631
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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Dar Scott]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 04:56 PM, Alex Rice wrote:

How do I turn those on on OS X?
Edit /etc/inetd.conf and uncomment their lines
Great!  Uh, how do I edit that?  I can't even see it except from 
terminal.  I found an editor called pico, but I wonder if there is a 
better way.  I have become GUI-flabby and I can't get up!

Dar Scott

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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Dar Scott]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Steve Gehlbach wrote:

Anyone know a way around running a socket server as root (well, on 
Linux and I assume Mac OS X)?  Works fine on Windows as any user, 
which is why worms and viruses like it so much.
I am able to 'accept' UDP and TCP on OS X as any user.

I didn't realize Linux would have the constraint and am interested in 
the answer to this.

(My problem is that I have a client/server acting up and I want to see 
which one is the problem.  I want to have some non-Rev service to send 
a UDP response to see if the client has trouble.)

Dar Scott

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Re: Hiliting a listfield line as I type?

[Rob Cozens]

My lockedtext listfield has a list of applications. With focus on this
field, the user should be able to start typing a name of the application and
the listfield should scroll to and hilite the matching line as soon as
possible.
I've seen some KeyUp examples but they don't achieve this behavior..
Hi Andy,

Look at the script of Transcript Dictionary's field  preceded by the 
"Filter with" popUp.
--
Rob Cozens, CCW
Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm

"And I, which was two fooles do so grow three.
 Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."
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[OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

[Dar Scott]

I'm testing some UDP sockets code in some Revolution stacks and it 
would be handy to test it with the simple Internet services echo and/or 
date-time.  I suppose I could go reinstall it on my XP, but I'm lazy 
and besides I'd like to use them when my XP is down.  I could make a 
standalone, but I want something independent of Revolution.

So...

How do I turn those on on OS X?

Dar Scott

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Hiliting a listfield line as I type?

[yoy]

My lockedtext listfield has a list of applications. With focus on this
field, the user should be able to start typing a name of the application and
the listfield should scroll to and hilite the matching line as soon as
possible.

I've seen some KeyUp examples but they don't achieve this behavior..

Help!

Thanks again,

Andy

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Re: 2.1RC1 delete problem

[François Cuneo]

Hello!
Ok it's a bug, but what may we do until the bug is fixed??
Do you see a workaround?
Thank you!
François

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Site Web dédié au Macintosh http://www.cuk.ch
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> De : Ken Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Répondre à : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date : Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:32:47 -0700
> À : "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Objet : Re: 2.1RC1 delete problem
> 
> Alex, I confirmed this in Rev 2.1RC1 on Mac OS X 10.2.6. Did you bugzilla
> this? If not, you should.
> 
> Ken Ray
> Sons of Thunder Software
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
> 
> 
>> From: Alex Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:38:44 +1000
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: 2.1RC1 delete problem
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> just tried 2.1rc1 (for pc) and i noticed it was leaving gaps in lists
>> (variables & fields) which i occasionally trim with the 'delete'  command..
>> which is acting more like a 'clear' command. anyone else having this problem?
>> 
>> while im here i want to point out a feature i miss from metacard..
>> 
>> put "hello "&"world" -> works on both mc & rev
>> put ("hello "&"world") -> works on mc .. fails on rev
>> 
>> simple example but it has caused a few problems with some of my older mc
>> scripts
>> 
>> is anyone having [seemingly] more crashes with colorized scripts on or is
>> it just me?
>> 
>> .. back to 2.0.2, which isn't too bad :)
>> 
>> regards
>> alex
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Re: Mac browser type?

[Richard Gaskin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> Q: Who is Will Pather? And is he on this list?
> 
> If not, perhaps someone else can to suggest a creatorType for web pages built
> on the fly (as in 'set the fileType to...' )?
> 
> There is no problem with Windows as the system picks it up from the .html
> suffix.
> 
> WHAT, however, to do for Macintosh? I currently default to MSIETEXT for
> Internet Explorer... Methinks this may no longer be appropriate.

I use "TEXT" -- this let's the OS assign it to the user's default
browser.

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Re: Stacks in motion - correction

[miscdas]

Mathewson writes: 

Awfully sorry: had set my ZIP prog to do a 'Mac-BIN': new
version of BOUNCER.rev (2 diff. variants included) now on
my website. 

Sorry for inconvenience caused. 

Love, Richmond 


richmond, 

Thanks for the update. 

If you haven't already done so, you need to fix some of the other ZIP 
offerings on that page. 

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Re: Drawer on RC 1

[Yves COPPE]

Question :

the drawer command on Mac OS X with rev RC 1 :

Is it possible to go to a card of a stack in a
drawer?
I've tried :

drawer cd 2 of stack "myDrawer"

but without success

the drawer command opens cd 1 of the stack



Greetings.

Yves COPPE

Hi Yves,

I don't have my MacOSX machine at hand to test it, but
I think you can accomplish it with :
  go cd 2 of stack "myDrawer" as drawer
Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.




Hi Jan

that's good but how can I use the command at bottom in stack "XYZ" ?

Thanks.

Greetings.
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RE: Distributing on CD for Windows users

[Edwin Gore]

If you are going to write your own installer, it should be possible to use Rev's built 
in Gzip compression to get around this problem. Use Rev (or gzip) to compress your 
application files, put them and a simple unzipper stack onto the CD, then users just 
run the unzipper program to install.

I have been using Pantaray's QSetup for creating Windows installers is , which is free 
for independant developers.

I'm not familiar with any of the installation makers for the Mac unfortunately.

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: Barry Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:19:22
>
>I've run into that killer "read-only" problem where
>I've burned a CD 
>with the Rev distribution and then copied the files
>and app back to a 
>PC hard disk only to find that the files (which
>could be written to on 
>the original PC) are unusable (because I can't save
>to them anymore). 
>Note that this is not the "can't write to the app's
>mainstack" issue 
>(which is not an issue when you understand how to
>deal with it).
>
>I remember some discussion about this on the list
>but a search hasn't 
>revealed the definitive answer.
>
>However, I have tried something which seems to work
>fine and I'd like 
>to run it by the listas for a second (and third)
>opinion:
>
>I am using DropZip (part of the Stuffit Deluxe
>package on my Mac) to 
>compress the distribution folder into an archive
>and burn that archive 
>to the CD. Then, moving to the PC, I open that
>archive using the WinZip 
>program (or whatever it is on XP that can open that
>zip file) and drag 
>the application folder from the zip file to the
>user's Desktop.
>
>I realize that I can't do this manually for every
>user (as we hope to 
>sell this program to lots of people) so I will have
>to use whatever 
>automatic installer is recommended. I also have
>found that a W2K PC 
>into which we had attempted to install the program
>had nothing on it 
>that could deal with the zip file so I need to
>include some kind of 
>"unzipping" engine. So, two questions:
>
>1. Is the process I describe an good method of
>dealing with the 
>read-only problem? (If not, I will entertain
>alternatives.)
>
>2. Would the proper long-term solution be something
>like "Install 
>anywhere"? I plan to distribute to both Macs and
>PCs.
>
>The users who would be purchasing the program are
>K12 teachers who, as 
>we all know, can not be relied upon to manage a
>geeky installation.
>
>Thanks very much.
>
>Barry
>
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Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/22/03 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   This will give you results like "10:53:12 PM" -- that is, you'll get the 
hour, minute, second *and* whether it's AM or PM. Of course, your original 
question didn't mention the AM/PM bit at all; since the "long time" time format 
automatically includes the AM/PM bit, we must needs find a different way to do 
it if we don't want to deal with AM/PM. Fortunately, the dateItems time/date 
format gives you everything you need on a silver platter, or at least in a 
comma-delimited list whose individual parts you can access thru "item X of 
TheTime". 
Or even easier, make use of the twelveHourTime property:

set the twelvehourtime to false
get the seconds
convert it to long time
put it
Yields the desired format in military time. No dateItems needed. ;)

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Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Mark Swindell]

Cubist,

Thanks for the  tutorial on date/time conversion!

You should send this to the tips section of Runrev.

In fact, the PM was displaying in my scenario I posted a few minutes 
ago, but my field was too small to show it.  My use is for short  timed 
practice tests, so it's not appropriate to have AM/PM.  Again, thanks.

Mark

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 10:45  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave a great 
date/time conversion explanation:

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RE: Re: 2.1RC1 delete problem

[Edwin Gore]

I wonder if this is the root of the mis-aligned rows that people are seeing in 
Variable watcher as well...

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: Ken Ray 
>
>Alex, I confirmed this in Rev 2.1RC1 on Mac OS X
>10.2.6. Did you bugzilla
>this? If not, you should.
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Distributing on CD for Windows users

[Barry Levine]

I've run into that killer "read-only" problem where I've burned a CD 
with the Rev distribution and then copied the files and app back to a 
PC hard disk only to find that the files (which could be written to on 
the original PC) are unusable (because I can't save to them anymore). 
Note that this is not the "can't write to the app's mainstack" issue 
(which is not an issue when you understand how to deal with it).

I remember some discussion about this on the list but a search hasn't 
revealed the definitive answer.

However, I have tried something which seems to work fine and I'd like 
to run it by the listas for a second (and third) opinion:

I am using DropZip (part of the Stuffit Deluxe package on my Mac) to 
compress the distribution folder into an archive and burn that archive 
to the CD. Then, moving to the PC, I open that archive using the WinZip 
program (or whatever it is on XP that can open that zip file) and drag 
the application folder from the zip file to the user's Desktop.

I realize that I can't do this manually for every user (as we hope to 
sell this program to lots of people) so I will have to use whatever 
automatic installer is recommended. I also have found that a W2K PC 
into which we had attempted to install the program had nothing on it 
that could deal with the zip file so I need to include some kind of 
"unzipping" engine. So, two questions:

1. Is the process I describe an good method of dealing with the 
read-only problem? (If not, I will entertain alternatives.)

2. Would the proper long-term solution be something like "Install 
anywhere"? I plan to distribute to both Macs and PCs.

The users who would be purchasing the program are K12 teachers who, as 
we all know, can not be relied upon to manage a geeky installation.

Thanks very much.

Barry

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Re: image pasting

[Mark Talluto]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 09:22 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 8/22/03 4:59 AM, mazzapaolo wrote:

When I get images from the clipboard i loose transparency. (Also 
copying and pasting in Revolution)
Is it a bug of Rev 2.1 ,  is it a limitation of the program or am I 
missing something?
To maintain transparency, you'd save yourself a lot of trouble if you 
would save your images as transparent gif or png images in your paint 
program. Then import the images from disk, using "Import as control" 
in Rev's file menu. That will maintain transparency as well as avoid 
all the resizing problems you were having.

Importing images from disk is the standard way to get them into a 
stack. In fact, until I answered your questions about it, I had never 
even tried to paste an image directly into a stack from the clipboard. 
It seems to be far more work to paste the image than to import it from 
disk. Pasting requires a lot of extra scripting to get the image into 
the same state that is produced automatically with an import.

To play devils advocate, it would be nice to be able to paste directly 
from one app to a Rev app.  You might be making a paint program, layout 
program, multimedia app, or various other apps where this would be 
useful.  The pasting and getting extra white space needs to be 
Bugzillaed.

For creating your interface in Rev, you should just import the image as 
normal for the time being.  Not sure if cutting and pasting from 
another app and maintaining transparency is a job for Rev though.  I 
think that is saved to the file and not in the host app's memory.

Best regards,
Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Mark Swindell]

Thanks for the speedy responses!  Much appreciated.  This snippet 
displays what I wanted.

on upDateTimer
   global gtheSecs,gtheSecsLong	
add 1 to gtheSecs
put  gtheSecs into gtheSecsLong
convert gtheSecsLong  to long time
put empty into char 1 to 2 of gtheSecsLong -- removes initial hour 
and colon, leaves minutes and seconds
put gtheSecsLong into field "Time"
send "updateTimer" to me in 1 second
end upDateTimer

Mark

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 09:11  AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Is there a numberformat or other option that will display seconds in 
standard 00:00:00 format?
get the seconds
convert it to long time
put it
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Re: Mac browser type?

[FlexibleLearning]

Alex:

Thank you. I am somewhat behind thew times on MacOS (still on v9) and have spent 2 years in the wilderness on a bad venture I got conned into. A lot of water has gone under many bridges!

I shall default the setting to MOSSTEXT for Netscape on Macs on the assumtion that [1] it is a commonly installed browser and [2] with the .thml extension it is covered for Win32 and Safari.

Thank you again.

/H

Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Cubist]

sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>Is there a numberformat or other option that will display seconds in 
>standard 00:00:00 format?
   The CONVERT function is your friend for all things related to display of 
time and/or dates. To a first approximation:

function Sec2Standard DaSecs
   convert DaSecs from seconds to long time
   return DaSecs
end Sec2Standard

   This will give you results like "10:53:12 PM" -- that is, you'll get the 
hour, minute, second *and* whether it's AM or PM. Of course, your original 
question didn't mention the AM/PM bit at all; since the "long time" time format 
automatically includes the AM/PM bit, we must needs find a different way to do 
it if we don't want to deal with AM/PM. Fortunately, the dateItems time/date 
format gives you everything you need on a silver platter, or at least in a 
comma-delimited list whose individual parts you can access thru "item X of 
TheTime". To a second approximation:

function Sec2Standard DaSecs
   convert DaSecs from seconds to dateItems
   return item 4 of DaSecs & ":" & item 5 of DaSecs & ":" & item 6 of DaSecs
end Sec2Standard

   No AM/PM here, thanks. However, it's worth noting that dateItems believes 
in a 24-hour clock; if you send this function the number of seconds 
corresponding to "10:53:12 PM", it will spit out the result "22:53:12". Could this be 
a 
problem for what you're doing? I dunno, but fortunately, it's not difficult to 
translate a 24-hour *hour* into a 12-hour *hour*, you should pardon the 
expression. To a third approximation:

function Sec2Standard DaSecs
   convert DaSecs from seconds to dateItems
   # mind the line wrap here...
   return item 4 of DaSecs) - 1) mod 12) + 1) & ":" & item 5 of DaSecs & 
":" & item 6 of DaSecs
end Sec2Standard

   There: Whether the number of seconds you send this puppy corresponds to 
"10:53:12 PM" or "10:53:12", this function *will* give "10:53:12" right back to 
you.

   Hope this helps...
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Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Ken Ray]

There isn't one (although having a "convert  to HMS" would be nice), but
you can do it by converting the seconds to dateItems, and then taking items
4 to 6 (which are the hours, minutes and seconds), and padding them with
zeroes if they are less than 10 and then finally concatenating them together
with ":"s.

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> From: Mark Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:35:33 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: seconds to standard time numberformat?
> 
> Is there a numberformat or other option that will display seconds in
> standard 00:00:00 format?
> 
> I've got a "send to me in 1 second...add 1 to field theTime" scenario
> going on a project, and would like the result to display in standard
> form, rather than raw seconds.  What's the most efficient way to make
> this happen?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
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Re: 2.1RC1 delete problem

[Ken Ray]

Alex, I confirmed this in Rev 2.1RC1 on Mac OS X 10.2.6. Did you bugzilla
this? If not, you should.

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> From: Alex Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:38:44 +1000
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 2.1RC1 delete problem
> 
> hi,
> 
> just tried 2.1rc1 (for pc) and i noticed it was leaving gaps in lists
> (variables & fields) which i occasionally trim with the 'delete'  command..
> which is acting more like a 'clear' command. anyone else having this problem?
> 
> while im here i want to point out a feature i miss from metacard..
> 
> put "hello "&"world" -> works on both mc & rev
> put ("hello "&"world") -> works on mc .. fails on rev
> 
> simple example but it has caused a few problems with some of my older mc
> scripts
> 
> is anyone having [seemingly] more crashes with colorized scripts on or is
> it just me?
> 
> .. back to 2.0.2, which isn't too bad :)
> 
> regards
> alex
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Re: image pasting

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/22/03 4:59 AM, mazzapaolo wrote:

When I get images from the clipboard i loose transparency. (Also copying 
and pasting in Revolution)
Is it a bug of Rev 2.1 ,  is it a limitation of the program or am I 
missing something?
To maintain transparency, you'd save yourself a lot of trouble if you 
would save your images as transparent gif or png images in your paint 
program. Then import the images from disk, using "Import as control" in 
Rev's file menu. That will maintain transparency as well as avoid all 
the resizing problems you were having.

Importing images from disk is the standard way to get them into a stack. 
In fact, until I answered your questions about it, I had never even 
tried to paste an image directly into a stack from the clipboard. It 
seems to be far more work to paste the image than to import it from 
disk. Pasting requires a lot of extra scripting to get the image into 
the same state that is produced automatically with an import.

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Re: seconds to standard time numberformat?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 8/22/03 9:35 AM, Mark Swindell wrote:

Is there a numberformat or other option that will display seconds in 
standard 00:00:00 format?
get the seconds
convert it to long time
put it
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Re: Drawer on RC 1

[Jan Schenkel]

--- Yves COPPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> 
> Question :
> 
> the drawer command on Mac OS X with rev RC 1 :
> 
> Is it possible to go to a card of a stack in a
> drawer?
> 
> I've tried :
> 
> drawer cd 2 of stack "myDrawer"
> 
> but without success
> 
> the drawer command opens cd 1 of the stack
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings.
> 
> Yves COPPE
> 

Hi Yves,

I don't have my MacOSX machine at hand to test it, but
I think you can accomplish it with :
  go cd 2 of stack "myDrawer" as drawer

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Drawer on RC 1

[Yves COPPE]

Hi list

Question :

the drawer command on Mac OS X with rev RC 1 :

Is it possible to go to a card of a stack in a drawer?

I've tried :

drawer cd 2 of stack "myDrawer"

but without success

the drawer command opens cd 1 of the stack



Greetings.

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Re:Scenario

[Javier Miranda V.]

Thanks for the responses, seems MySQL is the option I'll take a closer 
look Sarah, regarding the advise to use webcrossing.  Its a little bit 
intimidating use another serv er having Apache in OS X.
Saludos,

Javier

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Re: Mac browser type?

[Alex Rice]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 09:09  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
WHAT, however, to do for Macintosh? I currently default to MSIETEXT 
for Internet Explorer... Methinks this may no longer be appropriate.

Your suggestions would be very, very welcome, Will... or anyone else!
Just skip the creatorType- the new file will open in Safari (or the 
default browser) by virtue of having .html extension.

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Strong language thread

[Heather Williams]

Guys, this thread is now way way off topic and officially dead.

Thanking you for your kind cooperation, please do not respond to this
posting...

Cheers

Heather

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Re: Release Candidate 1 Available -- Special Offers End Soon

[Robert Brenstein]

 > I'm ashamed to say I still don't really understand this. I have now
 read the descriptions on the 'Revolution Editions' page and I am
 still a bit fuzzy. Personally, I need to maintain the multiplatform
 development and deployment option as long as I can afford it. Can I
 just wait till December (my normal renewal date) to optimise my cash
 flow, and still pay $299 to renew at Enterprise level (minus tech
 support) or is this offer likely to be withdrawn?
I don't think we have any plans to withdraw this offer in the short or
medium term, but in the long term obviously, we are likely to stop
supporting the subscription model in favour of the new licensing. You should
be pretty safe to wait until December, but if we do have any plans to
discontinue the subscription renewals, we will certainly tell everybody and
give you a last chance to renew.

Hmm, now this is confusing. You say that your new licensing model is 
not subscriptions?! What is the difference? Are we now required to 
maintain valid license at all times? So far, we were allowed to renew 
even if it was expired.

Robert
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Mac browser type

[Mathewson]

1.  "Will Panther" is presumably the best friend of "Woz
Jaguar", and neither of them like "Will Longhorn"enough
of that.

2.  I compose really moronically quick webpages using
Netscape Composer (see my website) and they are picked up
correctly be all Mac browsers.  As far as I know they are 
.html files.

Richmond

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Mac browser type?

[FlexibleLearning]

(Was: Re: Will Panther have IE by default?)

Q: Who is Will Pather? And is he on this list?

If not, perhaps someone else can to suggest a creatorType for web pages built on the fly (as in 'set the fileType to...' )?

There is no problem with Windows as the system picks it up from the .html suffix.

WHAT, however, to do for Macintosh? I currently default to MSIETEXT for Internet Explorer... Methinks this may no longer be appropriate.

Your suggestions would be very, very welcome, Will... or anyone else!

/H
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License Issues

[Revolution Support]

If you are experiencing problems licensing Revolution 2.0.3/2.1RC1 and are
on OS 9 try increasing the memory settings to at least 15MB. This will only
affect users that have downloaded Revolution prior to 3pm BST.  If you are
on other platforms try to free up more memory by quiting other programs.

If you still have difficulties with a licensed unlock code or 30 day trial
code, please send an email detailing the unlock code along with information
used to support at runrev.com (not to this list).  Thanks.

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Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port

[Dar Scott]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 07:25 AM, Stephen Quinn Barncard wrote:

Rather than destroy a cable or mess with those horrible mini-dins, I 
would use a mini-din to DB-9 adaptor (still available), then wire a 
DB-9 Female (or male, i forgot).
Good idea.  I didn't realize they were still around.

Another idea is to build that adaptor with an old cable.  I currently 
make my adaptors adapt to the DB-9 and then use null modems and 
extenders and loop-backs on that, but I'm currently partially DB-25.  I 
never did get on the RJ-45 craze for RS-232.  (Notice that I never mess 
with "those horrible mini-dins"--was so even before the hands got 
rusty.  Besides, they are hard to find.)

One potential problem is the handshaking.  The mac has only one in and 
one out and I'm not sure how they work.  I'd make one with none and one 
with those connected to RTS and CTS.

I have a power supply which a Mac cannot talk to.  It needs a strong 
RTS to power the optical isolation circuit.  I love the idea of 
isolation.  The signal ground and the signals are isolated.  But they 
got cheap and powered it from the RTS.  The data that came with it 
indicates that the Mac output handshake line will not work.

In general, RS422 is not RS232 and any setup might have problems.

BTW, there is no standard (that I know of) for RS422 DB9, the adaptor 
I'm describing above is for emulating RS232 on DB9.

It is possible to get 422 to 232 adaptors which are electronic level 
converters and sometimes isolated.  This might allow one to exploit the 
distances one expects from 422.

And while I'm babbling, I think it is possible to use mac in a two-pair 
RS-485 situation in some configurations.

Dar Scott


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Re: AW: Linux double click

[Alex Rice]

On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 04:33  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wild guess: set the execute permissions to that file.
The OS does not know, that your file is to be executed.
do a "chmod 755 XXX" in the console, with XXX is your filename.
This will make it readable and executable for anybody.
That would be my guess too. But for learning Unix file permissions, I 
would not start off not using the octal codes, instead use the 
shorthand like this

chmod +x file -- makes xecutable for owner
chmod o+x file -- makes xecutable for others
chmod a+x file -- makes xecutable for all
chmod +r file -- makes readable for owner
chmod o+r file -- makes readable for others
chmod a+r file -- makes readable for all
chmod +w file -- makes writable for owner
chmod o+w file -- makes writable for others
chmod a+w file -- makes writable for all
substitute - for + to remove the permission instead of adding it.

Fortunately Unix window mgr/ desktop software now usually has a file 
browser that can set file permissions by clicking too.

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Using strong language on the lists

[Magnus Hippolyte Batavia]

I wonder who, apart from Eric Hansen, considers "Shut Up"
worse than "Sh*t" ? This morning, on my way to work I put
my foot in some of the latter (it might have even been
'dropped' by a passing programmer" - and from personal
experience I can inform the world that it is far worse than
"Shut Up".

At Carthage College (in Coyote, Wyoming) we say that a
"Sh*it in the hand is worse than 2 in the bush", or, as one
Democrat student said the other day "2 in the Bush would be
far better".


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seconds to standard time numberformat?

[Mark Swindell]

Is there a numberformat or other option that will display seconds in 
standard 00:00:00 format?

I've got a "send to me in 1 second...add 1 to field theTime" scenario 
going on a project, and would like the result to display in standard 
form, rather than raw seconds.  What's the most efficient way to make 
this happen?

Thanks
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licensing problem? [was Re: Revolution 2.0.3 now available]

[Heather Williams]

> 
> Is there a licensing problem with this release? It won't accept my
> license that worked fine with 2.0.2 release.

Not that I know of... yet :) Anybody else seeing this? If not, Alex could
you write me off list and we'll figure out what's wrong,

Regards,

Heather

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Re: Release Candidate 1 Available -- Special Offers End Soon

[Heather Williams]

> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:26:44 -0600
> Subject: Re: Release Candidate 1 Available -- Special Offers End Soon
> From: Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 12:14 PM, Heather Williams wrote:

Dar:
> 
> The ability to renew early without license period penalty is great!
> What do we need to do to make sure that works right?

Well, you shouldn't have to do anything, since I will have your record, look
up when you expire (er, I mean your license, goodness, don't want any
valuable customers expiring) and generate your new license to run from the
end of the old one. If you want to be doubly sure I don't miss the fact that
you still have time on your old license, drop me an email when you order.

> 
>> If you want to switch to the new licensing, you can buy a new
>> discounted
>> license, but you will not then be able to switch back to the old model.
> 
> I am a little confused, too.
> 
> I received an email from "support" that my license was "converted" to
> Commercial Enterprise back on July 29.  It also said, "...you are still
> bound by your previous license agreement."
> 
> 
> On the licensing page in the License Renewals table is this row:
> 
> SBE - existing customers only | none | Renewal | $299
> 
> Does your statement above mean that Pro people can take advantage of
> that?  Or is that an error?  Is there a time limit on that?  What do I
> miss besides support if I take the $299 option instead of the $399
> renewal?

Basically, I need to upgrade that page... The situation is this:

Current Small Business Edition license holders can continue to renew on the
old model, for $299, and get a modified Studio license that can author and
build cross platform. They don't get the same database privileges as
Enterprise users though. They continue to get upgrades for a year. OR they
can switch to a pay per release model and buy a $49 upgrade to Studio. If
they do this however, they can't go back to the subscription model.

Current Professional license holders can also continue with the subscription
model, for $299. For this they get an Enterprise level renewal, with full
database access, but no support. They also have the option to buy an
Enterprise renewal at $399, which includes 5 support incidents.
> 
Graham:

> I'm ashamed to say I still don't really understand this. I have now
> read the descriptions on the 'Revolution Editions' page and I am
> still a bit fuzzy. Personally, I need to maintain the multiplatform
> development and deployment option as long as I can afford it. Can I
> just wait till December (my normal renewal date) to optimise my cash
> flow, and still pay $299 to renew at Enterprise level (minus tech
> support) or is this offer likely to be withdrawn?

I don't think we have any plans to withdraw this offer in the short or
medium term, but in the long term obviously, we are likely to stop
supporting the subscription model in favour of the new licensing. You should
be pretty safe to wait until December, but if we do have any plans to
discontinue the subscription renewals, we will certainly tell everybody and
give you a last chance to renew.
> 
> When I do renew, how can I get back onto a higher tech support level,
> supposing I'd want to? I see that Enterprise users get more tech
> support (10 incidents) in the first year than in subsequent years (5
> incidents). So we have people with Enterprise-level licences
> potentially with 3 different levels of support.

Well, you could choose the $399 option and get 5 technical support
incidents. Or you could buy a support package, a full description of what we
offer is available here:

http://www.runrev.com/Revolution1/support.html
> 
> BTW in the 'Online Store' part of the RunRev web site (where I first
> looked for a definition of the different Editions), none of the terms
> such as 'Enterprise', 'Studio' etc are mentioned, although one can
> get at them indirectly via the Store Front, as suggested in the Store
> page. IMHO this could confuse new potential purchasers.

Point taken. I'll try and address it soon.

I hope my above statements go some way to clarifying the position. If not,
please ask again...

Cheers

Heather

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List Browser: correction

[Mathewson]

Sorry about that   Here is the corrected text:

This stack was made and published within 24 hours. The
author
(Björnke von Gierke) did also attend a Party (4 h), he ate
(1/2h) and slept (10h) during that time.

The stack is a simple heirarchical viewer for the
use-revolution mailing list. To use it, enter your pop
server and your login information. Then click the "Connect
blocking" button and wait while all relevant messages get
downloaded. it takes about half a minute for 20 messages.
All
messages will remain on your server for later download from
your normal mail client. After downloading you may click
the "viewer" button to see the mails listed in the order
you received them. Also check out the database to see what
information is stored for each mail. 

Inspect the scripts too and if you make improvements to the
stack PLEASE mail me a copy, so that I can upload it to let
others benefit too! (bvg AT mac.com). I originally intended
to make this non-blocking, but I never got it to work
correctly in that manner. 

WARNING: if you have lots of mail on your pop account (for
example if you leave all messages always stored on the
server) then connecting will use lots and lots of time

Love, Richmond

PS: I had a real problem reading the Dark Green writing on
your Grey background.try white lettering.
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List Browser

[Mathewson]

Bjoernke!  I think you list browser is very nice except for
one thing...the Englishso here is your text corrected
so that everything will be perfect:

This stack was made and bulished within 24 hours. The autor
(Björnke von Gierke) did also attend a Party (4 h), he eat
(1/2h) and slept (10h) during that time.

The stack is a simple hirarchically viewer for the
use-revolution mailing list. To use it, enter your pop
server and your login information. Then click the "Connect
blocking" button and wait while all relevant messages get
downloaded. it takes ca. half a minute for 20 messages. All
messages will remain on your server for later download from
your normal mail client. After downloading you may click
the "viewer" button to see the mails listed in the order
you recieved them. Also check out the database to see what
information is stored for each mail. 

Inspect the scripts too and if you make improvements to the
stack PLEASE mail me a copy, so that I can upload it to let
others benefit too! (bvg AT mac.com). I originally intended
to make this non-blocking, but I never got it to work
corrrectly in that manner. 

WARNING: if you have lots of mail on your pop account (for
example if you leave all messages always stored on the
server) then connecting will use lots and lots of time.


Hope you don't mind; I will put a link to your site on
mine!

Love, Richmond

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Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port

[cteno4]

the easiest way to futz with serial port connections is to go to radio 
shack (or beter yet the local electronics store) and buy a bag of the 
little crimp on male and female pins (for the serial connectors that use 
these, you connect your wire then push it into the connector housing in 
the proper pin hole). then make some lenghts of 24g wire with the proper 
male or female pins on each end. then you can stick them into the 
holes/pins on each piece of equipment in different configurations untill 
you get communication. just make sure they dont short out on each other. 
they usually plug in tight and dont, but if you want to be sure on this, 
paint the outside of the female pins and the top (non plug end) of the 
male pins with fingernail polish or use a little piece of heat shrink. i 
usually just plug away and just make sure there is no strain on the wires 
which could ever pull two of the crimpons togeather.

once you have the proper pins connected up you can note the config and 
either build good cables or just pop the pins into the connector housings 
and go with your 'bread boarded' wires. works wonders. much better than 
trying to use one of those breakout boxes and futzing with adaptors (some 
of which do crossovers on you and dont note it...). 

I have gotten good serial communications going on the old mac ports with 
all sorts of stuff w/o handshaking, just ground and snd/rcv.

best of luck,

jeff


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Re: Drawer in 2.1c

[Klaus Major]

Hi Benny,

Hi!
When I open the New drawer thing its size decrease for
each time I open the drawer
Why??
Try setting the drawer-stack to NOT resizable and see if it helps...

Worked for me in V 2.1b3...

BF
Hope that helps...

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Re: ListBrowser

[Björnke von Gierke]

I don't know what you mean by "this web browser", but there are some 
different ways of reading the archive:
there's a good search engine at:
http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi

Also during a 24 hour project I did a list reader. Its the last one in 
this list:
http://revolutionboard.de/bvg/subindexes/stacks-2.html

alternatively you could do a site search at google using the archive 
url:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/

However if you are still not pleased with these solutions, then go 
ahead and make your listbrowser. I will certainly check it out.

greetings
Bjoernke von Gierke
On Freitag, Aug 22, 2003, at 15:15 Europe/Zurich, Jeremy Smith wrote:

Just give a big hollo to everyone, after being away from Metacard 
since 2.2 release (went on to C++) I needed a better and easier 
interface to program a new education program and so upon searching for 
good old metacard I was quite shocked to find Revolution (still in 
beta from what I remembered back then) Excellent work to the team 
btw, there's so much improved I am sure it will keep me busy for 
months...

Now I have been looking around the list for awhile and amazed to find 
no one has created a List Browser in Revolution... So I thought I 
might be missing something and see if you guys can point me in the 
right direction, as this web browser of the list is really not 
effiecent or stylish :)

If no one has done one, would you guys be interested in a Rev stack 
that you can keep in the background to get the lastest List updates, 
post/read the list without needing to load the web browser?? Im sure 
it can be done, and keeping it open source for the list so that anyone 
can contribute to its development...

Cheers
Jeremy.
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Drawer in 2.1c

[Benny Frödin]

Hi!
When I open the New drawer thing its size decrease for
each time I open the drawer
Why??
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2.0.3 release info: undocumented feature

[Mathewson]

The 2.0.3 release implements Runtime Revolution's new
licensing policy; i.e. it will not allow the free 10-line
version unlike 2.0.2

Richmond Mathewson

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Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port

[Stephen Quinn Barncard]

Rather than destroy a cable or mess with those horrible mini-dins, I 
would use a mini-din to DB-9 adaptor (still available), then wire a 
DB-9 Female (or male, i forgot). Those adaptors were originally made 
for the 128k mac, but for some reason are still around.

My first Hypercard project was a control system for up to 156 
cassette decks run by a little Mac SE (later a IIci) back in 1989 at 
A&M Studios. The only way to do that was to use the serial port at 
the mac end and a CY232 chip from Cybernetics at the hardware end. I 
got serial XCMDs off of Genie and other BBs, and eventually used 
Hyperbasic and Compilit to speed things up...

Another mac in the room drove a printer system to make the cassette 
labels -- 6 Epson impact printers with buffers and switching. What a 
trip that was. It took a lot of delays and trickery to get those damn 
ports to work right. I also designed all the analog and digital 
hardware and scanning concept.

http://barncard.com/amstudios/htdoc/Pages/TC.html

I don't know why I asked which one.

On DB9 and DB25, if you don't need handshaking, just connect pin 2 
to pin 3.  If you need handshaking on DB9, connect 7 to 8, and pin 4 
to 6 and 1.  If you need handshaking on DB25, uh, I forgot--I can 
look it up.

On the Mac DIN, you get an old mac serial cable and cut it.  Strip 
the wires.  Find those that go to certain pins and then solder or 
connect together like this:

Pin 3 to 5
Pin 6 to 8
This takes two because the signal is on two wires and not one.

If you need handshaking, try 1 to 2.  I have not done that.

If you blow something up, uh, somehow it is not my fault.  There are 
lots of web pages that have info on this; double check with those.

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2.0.3 release info

[Heather Williams]

Just a follow up on last nights post. The 2.0.3 release has the following
items addressed since 2.0.2:

*Fixed issues with revdb external library
*Fixed issues with revxml external library
*Fixed aspects of the user interface including libraries, menu bars,
distribution builder and application overview
*Stability improvements.
*Fixed several other minor technical issues with version 2.0.2

Regards,

Heather

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ListBrowser

[Jeremy Smith]

Just give a big hollo to everyone, after being away from Metacard since 2.2 
release (went on to C++) I needed a better and easier interface to program a 
new education program and so upon searching for good old metacard I was 
quite shocked to find Revolution (still in beta from what I remembered back 
then) Excellent work to the team btw, there's so much improved I am sure 
it will keep me busy for months...

Now I have been looking around the list for awhile and amazed to find no one 
has created a List Browser in Revolution... So I thought I might be missing 
something and see if you guys can point me in the right direction, as this 
web browser of the list is really not effiecent or stylish :)

If no one has done one, would you guys be interested in a Rev stack that you 
can keep in the background to get the lastest List updates, post/read the 
list without needing to load the web browser?? Im sure it can be done, and 
keeping it open source for the list so that anyone can contribute to its 
development...

Cheers
Jeremy.
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Re: HTTPProxy - authenticated proxy servers supported?

[Rodney Tamblyn]

Dave,

Thanks for your post, and for encouraging me to look into this further. 
 I've now go it working.

One small but vital correction to your posting -  you need to add the 
word "basic" to the header string:

Proxy-Authorization: Basic 

I also found it useful to have a look at the data going between my 
computer and the web server.  To do this, on OSX and other Unix boxes, 
you can use tcpflow

A typical syntax (use tcpflow -h for help, or man tcpflow)

tcpflow -c ip host my.interestingdomainhere.com

You can download tcpflow from 
http://www.circlemud.org/~jelson/software/tcpflow/tcpflow.1.html

Regards,

Rodney



On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:

At 1:29 pm +1200 21/8/03, Rodney Tamblyn wrote:
It appears that authenticated proxy servers are not supported in
Metacard/Revolution.  Please tell me I am wrong.
You're kind of wrong. :)

If you know in advance that proxy authentication is required, you need 
to set the httpHeaders appropriately. The header should look something 
like this:

   Proxy-Authorization: 

What you need to put in place of  depends on the authentication 
scheme being used. If it's the Basic authorization scheme, then the 
header will look like this:

   Proxy-Authorization: Basic 

where the base64-encoded string is a base64 encoding of the user ID, a 
colon, and the password. So:

put  into tID
put  into tPass
put base64Encode(tID & ":" & tPass) into tString
set the httpHeaders to "Proxy-Authorization:" && tString
If another scheme is used (digest, kerberos, etc.) you have more work 
to do. (But I think someone once posted a way of handling Digest 
authorization on one of the Rev or MC lists. So a look through the 
archives might help.)

There is information on the Digest and Basic schemes here:



If you don't know in advance whether proxy-authenitication is 
required, you can find out by getting the result of an http url call. 
It should return "error 407 " followed by a text description. In that 
case, you'll then have to find a "Proxy-authenicate" field in the 
headers returned by the proxy server. You can get the headers by using 
the libUrlLastRhHeaders() function.

Cheers
Dave
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Re: News from Mac OSX - Mysterious Serial Port

[Stephen Quinn Barncard]

All you want to know about MAC serial ports:
http://francis.courtois.free.fr/jc1/serial/main.html
Hi Dar,

I'd like to try making one of these loop-back circuits. I'm pretty 
neat with a soldering iron, but I'm not sure how to proceed. I guess 
I just need the join the Tx pins to the Rx pins but which pins are 
they? How did you do it?

Cheers,
Sarah
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 12:29  pm, Dar Scott wrote:
It is also possible to make a loop-back circuit so that you can 
read what you write.  You might even still be able to buy one.  If 
you have any old Mac serial cables, you can make one from that.
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Manuals - when available?

[Marian Petrides]

Does anyone know when manuals for version 2 will become available for 
those of us who ordered them along with our registration renewal?

Also, will there be different manuals for v 2.1?  If so, which ones 
will be shipped?

Marian

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AW: Linux double click

[claus]

  
> Hello list,
> I have builded a Linux app (SUSE 8.1 distribution) with rev and thought

> that it will run on double click (of the main stack) like OSX and WIN 
> does. But Suse does ask me with what App I would like to open this 
> file...?
> Is that a problem of my Linux ignorance, a missing file extension or a 
> rev build problem...?
> What i am missing ?
> 
> Thanks for any tips...

Hi Wolfgang,

wild guess: set the execute permissions to that file.
The OS does not know, that your file is to be executed.

do a "chmod 755 XXX" in the console, with XXX is your filename.
This will make it readable and executable for anybody.

You cann tweek this permissions:
first  number is for the owner of the file, second is for the group he is
in, last number is for anybody.
The number itself is:
1 for execute
2 for write
4 for read permissions.

So the "755" in the example above means:
Owner (you :) can execute (1) + write (2) + read (4) = 7 that file
anybody can execute (1) + read (4) = 5 that file.

Regards,
 Claus.
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Re: image pasting

[mazzapaolo]

You wrote:
Where are you getting the images in the clipboard from? Are you copying
from another application, or from another stack? If it is from another
stack, there are other ways to move the images.
I'm copying them from Claris Works

When I get images from the clipboard i loose transparency. (Also 
copying and pasting in Revolution)
Is it a bug of Rev 2.1 ,  is it a limitation of the program or am I 
missing something?

Thanks,   Paolo



Mercoledì, 20 Ago 2003, alle 00:02 Europe/Rome, Andrew ha scritto:

Much thanks for being in contact with me about image problems!

   set the width of img 1 to the formattedWidth of img 1
   set the height of img 1 to the formattedHeight of img 1
Okay, I put this script into the Mouseup handler of a btn on my card, 
and edited the script to say img "" instead of "1"
However, it doesn't do anything when I click the button.  What gives?  
:)

Secondly, I'm still having a lot of trouble getting my second image 
to
paste separate from the first image.  I shrink the first image and 
move
it over to one side of the card.  Then I click elsewhere on the card 
(so
the first image is not selected) and paste my second image.  Still, 
the
second image appears right on top of the first one, no matter where 
the
first one is located on the screen.
Where are you getting the images in the clipboard from? Are you 
copying
from another application, or from another stack? If it is from another
stack, there are other ways to move the images.
I'm copying them from Claris Works
Also, are you sure that the second image is actually going into the
first one, or is is just getting laid on top? If it is just on top, 
then
resizing it should work.
I'm sure that it is going into the first one.  It pastes on top of the 
first image no matter where the first image is on the screen.  After I 
paste it, when I click on it and move it, both images move together as 
if they were one image (assuming that the second one is smaller and I 
can still see the first image "behind" it).

Thanks again for your help.  I'm very appreciative
Andrew
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Re: Will Panther have IE by default?

[Peter Reid]

MS has also stopped developing IE for Windows as a standalone 
application.  All new developments will be as part of an integrated 
browser feature in the next generation versions of Windows.  MS will 
not issue any new installers for IE beyond IE 6 SP1 for Windows - 
existing Windows (98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2000, XP) users will not get any 
newer version either!!

So Mac users aren't being treated any differently by comparison to 
users of any existing version of Windows, only by comparison to users 
of new (unavailable as yet) versions of Windows!

Peter

PS please stop sending styled e-mail to the list (in OS X Mail: 
"Fonts & Colors" prefs panel, turn on "Use fixed-width font for plain 
text messages" and in "Composing" prefs, set format to "Plain Text")

MS has stopped IE development for MAC...

- Original Message -
From: Rob Gould
To: use-revolution use-revolution
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: OT: Will Panther have IE by default?
I've been working on a Revolution app that controls IE on Mac OS X 
using Applescript.  Can anyone tell me if the Panther OS will have 
IE as part of the default install?  I realize that Safari will be 
the "default" web-browser, but I just need to see if IE will at 
least be available.
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Linux double click

[Wolfgang M. Bereuter]

Hello list,
I have builded a Linux app (SUSE 8.1 distribution) with rev and thought 
that it will run on double click (of the main stack) like OSX and WIN 
does. But Suse does ask me with what App I would like to open this 
file...?
Is that a problem of my Linux ignorance, a missing file extension or a 
rev build problem...?
What i am missing ?

Thanks for any tips...

regards
Wolfgang M. Bereuter
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