2.1 beta doesn't open

2003-08-23 Thread curry
I have Mac OS 10.1.3. When I double click on Rev 2.1 RC 1, nothing 
happens; I see a zoom animation, but the app never starts.

Is 2.1 compatible with 10.1.3?

Curry
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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

2003-08-23 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 05:52  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

I am able to 'accept' UDP and TCP on OS X as any user.

I didn't realize Linux would have the constraint and am interested in 
the answer to this.

(My problem is that I have a client/server acting up and I want to see 
which one is the problem.  I want to have some non-Rev service to send 
a UDP response to see if the client has trouble.)
Forget what I said about 10,000 or higher that was incorrect. Regarding 
/etc/inetd.conf, /etc/services, TCP and UDP port numbering. An O'Reilly 
book published in 1991 says:

It should be noted that a port does not have to be listed in the 
database to be used. Any program may use any port it wants to (provided 
it's not already in use), with two exceptions. The ARPANET 
administration has decreed that port numbers below 512 are reserved for 
services which it approves. Further, Berkeley UNIX imposes the rule 
that port numbers below 1024 may only be used by the super-user. Thus, 
regular user programs are restricted to port numbers between 1025 and 
32767.

Note that servers like MySQL and PostgreSQL run as their own user (not 
as root) and run on high numbered ports for security; 3306 and 5432 
respectively.

Some servers like Apache, running on port 80, running as user nobody, 
must startup as root, and change uid after establishing sockets- or 
something like that.

Presumably Mac OS X and Linux both follow these guidelines as well. I 
don't know if Windows has the equivalent concept of super-user or if 
it has the same rules for port usage.

Hope this helps,

Alex Rice, Software Developer
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Multi column scrolling with checkbox

2003-08-23 Thread rgould8
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to create a 2 column text field, where the user 
can have editable text in the left column, and in the right column have a checkbox?  
(So that the checkboxes all line up with the text and scroll with the text if the 
vertical scrollbar is used).  Special bonus if I can have the rows with alternating 
colored backgrounds.
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Re: licensing problem? [was Re: Revolution 2.0.3 now available]

2003-08-23 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 08:14  AM, Heather Williams wrote:

Not that I know of... yet :) Anybody else seeing this? If not, Alex 
could
you write me off list and we'll figure out what's wrong,
My bad! Heather helped me figure out I was entering an old license key.

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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread François Cuneo
Thank you Ludovic!

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 Objet : Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?
 
 On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:43:58 +0200, François Cuneo wrote:
 Hello!
 I'm completely unable to works with saved and closed stack with my code.
 When I close the stack and I save it, if I load the stack again or change
 her name, I have a message that says that I'm trying to load a stack already
 opened.
 So when I close the stack, I want to purge it from memory.
 Is it possible??
 
 In Stack Property, check the 'Purge stack on close'.
 
 But why this button is not true by default ?
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Re: Mac browser type?

2003-08-23 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 12:02  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Alex:

Thank you. I am somewhat behind thew times on MacOS (still on v9) and 
have spent 2 years in the wilderness on a bad venture I got conned 
into. A lot of water has gone under many bridges!
What was the venture?

Well you aren't the only one confused about file types on OS X! Do a 
search for OS X and launch services if you want all the hairy details.

I shall default the setting to MOSSTEXT for Netscape on Macs on the 
assumtion that [1] it is a commonly installed browser and [2] with the 
.thml extension it is covered for Win32 and Safari.
That would probably work OK. I don't know about Netscape any more. I 
have a copy so I can use Bugzilla, and it's Javascript console is 
handy, but I never use it for my main browser.

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Re: Multi column scrolling with checkbox

2003-08-23 Thread Ludovic Thébault
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 02:27:22 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone tell me if there's a way to create a 2 column text field, 
 where the user can have editable text in the left column, and in the 
 right column have a checkbox?  (So that the checkboxes all line up 
 with the text and scroll with the text if the vertical scrollbar is 
 used).  Special bonus if I can have the rows with alternating colored 
 backgrounds.


You can simulate this with the imagesource command, clickchar and 2 
images : the checkbox hilited and non hilited, but it's not 
multiplatform compliant ;-). 
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Re: Multi column scrolling with checkbox

2003-08-23 Thread Jan Schenkel
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 Can anyone tell me if there's a way to create a 2
 column text field, where the user can have editable
 text in the left column, and in the right column
 have a checkbox?  (So that the checkboxes all line
 up with the text and scroll with the text if the
 vertical scrollbar is used).  Special bonus if I can
 have the rows with alternating colored backgrounds.
 

Hi Rob,

Check out the checkboxlist I made available to the
listees a while ago. Direct link :
http://www.geocities.com/janschenkel/downloads/checkboxlist.zip

If you search the archives, you'll find a solution for
the alternating background colours as well.
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-March/013639.html

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: 2.1 beta doesn't open

2003-08-23 Thread Ron
Hi Curry,
I have experienced the same thing for beta 2 and 3. Reported it but got no
response, so I figured I was the only one. I'm on 10.1.5.

Kjetil Rå Hauge suggested checking the permissions, which I suspected but
when I did, It showed correctly that I was the admin and all three
categories showed read/write permission. Is there something else?

I would love to try 2.1. Note, 2.0.2 works fine.

thanks
Ron

 
 I have Mac OS 10.1.3. When I double click on Rev 2.1 RC 1, nothing
 happens; I see a zoom animation, but the app never starts.
 
 Is 2.1 compatible with 10.1.3?
 
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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread Klaus Major
Bonjour Ludovic et Francois,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:43:58 +0200, François Cuneo wrote:
Hello!
I'm completely unable to works with saved and closed stack with my 
code.
When I close the stack and I save it, if I load the stack again or 
change
her name, I have a message that says that I'm trying to load a stack 
already
opened.
So when I close the stack, I want to purge it from memory.
Is it possible??
In Stack Property, check the 'Purge stack on close'.

But why this button is not true by default ?
Ask the RR team ;-)

But you can set this in the preferences - Files  Memory

And there IS a way to remove a stack from memory by script.

This is from the RR dox, see under delete stack command:

Use the delete stack xxx command to delete a substack,
or to purge a main stack from memory.
So use this with caution ;-)

Hope that helps...

Regards

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Drawer reduce on 2.1RC1

2003-08-23 Thread Benny Frödin
Hi!
The drawer reduce its height for each time I open it
Does anybody know why and how to workaround it
To set the stack to unreseizable does not work
Thanks in advance
  Ben.
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Re: Hiliting a listfield line as I type?

2003-08-23 Thread Klaus Major
Hi yoy,

Rob,

That's EXACTLY the behavior (Scroll To) I want!
But... how do I read the scripts?
One smart solution ;-) is to use the messagebox:

Type:

edit script of the mousecontrol

DON'T hit RETURN yet!!!

Instead positon the cursor on top of that menubutton
and THEN hit RETURN...
Et voila, you can edit the script of the mousecontrol, see the docs
for more info about this handy little sucker ;-)
I opened the stack via the Open Stack menu
but I can't get it into edit mode. It doesn't show in the Application
Browser..
See menu: View - Revolution UI Elemnts in List

et voila, there they are in the App Browser: stacks galore...
...and you will hardly find your own couple of stacks anymore ;-)
Sorry to appear so clueless.
...as long as you love your mom ;-)

But that's it!
Thanks!
Andy

Hi Andy,

Look at the script of Transcript Dictionary's field  preceded by the
Filter with popUp.
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Hope that helps...

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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread François Cuneo
Thank you Klaus, but I leave all my system with delete and clone stacks to
create a kind of backup file.
All the destroystack property to true  and In Stack Property, check the
'Purge stack on close') are not working, because else if you put the
property to true, it's no effect until the handler is finished.
I have tried to put that in subprocedures but the problem is exactly the
same.
I don't understand why it's like that.
A simple command like purge stack xxx would be so simple!
Friendly
François

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 Objet : Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?
 
 Ask the RR team ;-)
 
 But you can set this in the preferences - Files  Memory
 
 And there IS a way to remove a stack from memory by script.
 
 This is from the RR dox, see under delete stack command:
 
 Use the delete stack xxx command to delete a substack,
 or to purge a main stack from memory.
 
 So use this with caution ;-)
 
 Hope that helps...
 
 
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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread Rob Cozens
All the destroystack property to true  and In Stack Property, check the
'Purge stack on close') are not working, because else if you put the
property to true, it's no effect until the handler is finished.
Salut François,

I'm coming into this a little late; so forgive me if my comments are 
off target.

I have a handler that reads selected data from all stacks in a 
folder--1,648 in my real-world situation

As it finishes processing a stack, my export handler does:

set the destroyStack of stack currentStackName to true
close  stack currentStackName
This seems to be working fine for moi...am I missing somethng?
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HC to R question

2003-08-23 Thread Dale Pond
Hi,

I finally bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Revolution to convert 
my HC stacks. I'm having trouble with a simple repeat loop:

 -- visit each card
 repeat with x = 3 to the number of cards
   go to card x
   if field Card Name  empty
   then put (field Card Name)  ;  the ID of this card  return 
after index1
 end repeat

This returns an error Handler: end doesn't match handler name. Makes 
no sense to me and I can't find anything wrong with the script. Can 
someone help me out with this?

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Re: Drawer reduce on 2.1RC1

2003-08-23 Thread Françoise DESREUMAUX
Le samedi, 23 aoû 2003, à 14:18 Europe/Brussels, Benny Frödin a écrit :

Hi!
The drawer reduce its height for each time I open it
Does anybody know why and how to workaround it
To set the stack to unreseizable does not work
Thanks in advance
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I experiment the same...

No idea why...

Greetings.

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Re: HC to R question

2003-08-23 Thread Roger . E . Eller
 Hi,
 
 I finally bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Revolution to convert
 my HC stacks. I'm having trouble with a simple repeat loop:

Dale,

Try it this way...
(you have to end the if statement, and then goes on the first line of 
the if statement)

-- visit each card
repeat with x = 3 to the number of cardsgo to card x
   if field Card Name  empty then
  put (field Card Name)  ;  the ID of this card \
   return after index1
   end if
end repeat

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Rev CGI engine

2003-08-23 Thread Mike Doub
I am trying to locate the current version of the revolution engine to use as
a CGI scripting engine for a IIS based website.  I have been told that IIS
does support the cgi interface, but don't know that for a fact.  Is anyone
else using rev in this context?

I found http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines/windows.gz   Is this
correct engine for a windows system?  If so, would winzip uncompress it?  I
would have thought so, but it does not.   I am suspecting a corrupt file.
Any one else having problems with this?

I also have a licensed version of Revolution.  Would I be able to
copy/rename the necessary components from the program files directory?  I
suspect not, but does anyone know for sure?

Thanks for you help in advance.

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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread François Cuneo
Hello Rob!
Until here OK, it works too, but if I refer again to another stack after,
it's impossible without a warning message ...what to do with the stack
XXX.


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 Objet : Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?
 
 Salut François,
 
 I'm coming into this a little late; so forgive me if my comments are
 off target.
 
 I have a handler that reads selected data from all stacks in a
 folder--1,648 in my real-world situation
 
 As it finishes processing a stack, my export handler does:
 
 set the destroyStack of stack currentStackName to true
 close  stack currentStackName
 
 This seems to be working fine for moi...am I missing somethng?
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Re: How to purge a stack from memory by script?

2003-08-23 Thread Klaus Major
Bonjour François,

Hello Rob!
Until here OK, it works too, but if I refer again to another stack 
after,
it's impossible without a warning message ...what to do with the stack
XXX.
Ah, in the Rev UI...

You can change this behaviour, too :-)

Preferences - Files  Memory (deja vu? ;-):

If destroystack is false, when closing last stack in file:

[ ] Don't close the file
[ ] Close the file
[x] Ask
I think the last one is set in your RR...

Check Close the file to get rid of these annoying messages :-)

Hope that helps...

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How revert not the current stack???

2003-08-23 Thread François Cuneo
Hello again (sorry!!!)

So, because I'm unable to do what I want, I'm using a workaround.


I work from a current stack, CCOX.

I save from the stack CCOX another mainstack USERS

I whant to create one or more cards in stack Users (always working from the
current stack CCOX).

Now, I want to revert where I was in the stack Users before that I have
created the cards.

I Write:

 Set the defaultstack to users
 revert

That the current stack, CCOX that reverts.

I have tried to put the script in a handler on dontsave in the Stackscript
of the stack Users.

From my CCOX current stack, I write:
   
send dontsave to stack Users

and the result is the same: always the CCOX stack is reverted, not the
USers.

AND I WANT THAT THE STACK USERS REVERTS AAARGGGHH.

Hum, sorry... I'm hot...

Is it possible to revert this stack USERS from CCOX please?

Thank you very much.

François

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RE: Rev CGI engine

2003-08-23 Thread Mike Doub
Sorry I mistyped the link and capitalization is significant:

http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines/Windows.gz

-- Mike


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Subject: Rev CGI engine

I am trying to locate the current version of the revolution engine to use as
a CGI scripting engine for a IIS based website.  I have been told that IIS
does support the cgi interface, but don't know that for a fact.  Is anyone
else using rev in this context?

I found http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines/windows.gz   Is this
correct engine for a windows system?  If so, would winzip uncompress it?  I
would have thought so, but it does not.   I am suspecting a corrupt file.
Any one else having problems with this?

I also have a licensed version of Revolution.  Would I be able to
copy/rename the necessary components from the program files directory?  I
suspect not, but does anyone know for sure?

Thanks for you help in advance.

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Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1814 - 17 msgs

2003-08-23 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 17
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:18:48 -0600
From: Dale Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HC to R question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

I finally bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Revolution to convert
my HC stacks. I'm having trouble with a simple repeat loop:
  -- visit each card
  repeat with x = 3 to the number of cards
go to card x
if field Card Name  empty
then put (field Card Name)  ;  the ID of this card  return
after index1
  end repeat
This returns an error Handler: end doesn't match handler name. Makes
no sense to me and I can't find anything wrong with the script. Can
someone help me out with this?
My specialty is the simple-minded solution. Forgive me, but did you 
check the spelling of the handler in which the above repeat loop is 
included--or perhaps other handlers in the script? There certainly 
doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the repeat loop itself.

Jim
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Re: How revert not the current stack???

2003-08-23 Thread Björnke von Gierke
from the transcript dictionary:
--
The revert command also undoes changes made to other stacks stored in 
the same stack file. That is, if you revert a main stack, all substacks 
of that stack also revert to the last save, and if you revert a 
substack, its main stack and any other substacks also revert.
--

That means you have to save your USERS stack as its own mainstack and 
only then will you be able to use revert on it, and only it.

On Samstag, Aug 23, 2003, at 17:24 Europe/Zurich, François Cuneo wrote:

Hello again (sorry!!!)

So, because I'm unable to do what I want, I'm using a workaround.

I work from a current stack, CCOX.

I save from the stack CCOX another mainstack USERS

I whant to create one or more cards in stack Users (always working 
from the
current stack CCOX).

Now, I want to revert where I was in the stack Users before that I have
created the cards.
I Write:

 Set the defaultstack to users
 revert
That the current stack, CCOX that reverts.

I have tried to put the script in a handler on dontsave in the 
Stackscript
of the stack Users.

From my CCOX current stack, I write:

send dontsave to stack Users

and the result is the same: always the CCOX stack is reverted, not the
USers.
AND I WANT THAT THE STACK USERS REVERTS AAARGGGHH.

Hum, sorry... I'm hot...

Is it possible to revert this stack USERS from CCOX please?

Thank you very much.

François

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Re: HC to R question

2003-08-23 Thread Dale Pond
Jim Hurley wrote:

Message: 17
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:18:48 -0600
From: Dale Pond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HC to R question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,

I finally bit the bullet and purchased a copy of Revolution to convert
my HC stacks. I'm having trouble with a simple repeat loop:
  -- visit each card
  repeat with x = 3 to the number of cards
go to card x
if field Card Name  empty
then put (field Card Name)  ;  the ID of this card  return
after index1
  end repeat
This returns an error Handler: end doesn't match handler name. Makes
no sense to me and I can't find anything wrong with the script. Can
someone help me out with this?
My specialty is the simple-minded solution. Forgive me, but did you 
check the spelling of the handler in which the above repeat loop is 
included--or perhaps other handlers in the same script? There 
certainly doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the repeat loop itself.

Jim
Jim and Roger,

Thanks for your pointers! I found an error further on in the script 
(actually two errors). One was an unassociated repeat and the other 
appeared to be an abbreviated fld instead of field or maybe it was the 
'go to card Index' which when changed to 'go to card 2' worked. 
Seems Rev doesn't like abbreviations nor does it point well to the 
actual bug. The script works great now! Here is the complete and 
working  script:

on mouseUp
 put empty into field IndexField
 lock screen
 -- visit each card
 repeat with x = 3 to the number of cards
   go to card x
   if field Card Name  empty then
 put (field Card Name)  ;  the ID of this card \
  return after index1
   end if
 end repeat
 go to card 2 -- go to card 2 Index Card
 sort index1   -- sort data within variable
 put index1 into field IndexField -- put data into Index Field
 put number of chars in field IndexField into field Characters
 put number of lines in field indexfield into field Line Count
unlock screen
end mouseUp
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Re: HC to R question

2003-08-23 Thread FlexibleLearning
 This returns an error "Handler: end doesn't match handler name". Makes 
 no sense to me and I can't find anything wrong with the script. Can 
 someone help me out with this?

Check your handler spelling. 'on ...' must finsh with the same 'end...'

/H


Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

2003-08-23 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Alex Rice wrote:
Regarding
/etc/inetd.conf, /etc/services, TCP and UDP port numbering. An O'Reilly 
book published in 1991 says:
  Thus,
regular user programs are restricted to port numbers between 1025 and 
32767.

Note that servers like MySQL and PostgreSQL run as their own user (not 
as root) and run on high numbered ports for security; 3306 and 5432 
respectively.

Some servers like Apache, running on port 80, running as user nobody, 
must startup as root, and change uid after establishing sockets- or 
something like that.

Presumably Mac OS X and Linux both follow these guidelines as well. I 
don't know if Windows has the equivalent concept of super-user or if 
it has the same rules for port usage.

Thanks for the RTFM, I did not realize the root restriction was lifted 
for higher ports.  I can say for sure that Windows does not have the 
restriction, I have tested it.

I need to use UDP port 67 for a bootp server, which is used in one of my 
user apps for re-installing software on an embedded system (I'm porting 
to RR).  So the program will have to be run as root, I guess.

The other option (sometimes used by http and smtp) is to put the file 
permissions as set uid root (maybe many are familiar with this) which is 
a special unix thing that is, by old time unix people, considered a 
security hole.  But this basically sets the ownership of the file to 
root, and sets it to run as if it were root, but it can be executed by 
an ordinary user. (It is done with, as root, chown root filename; chmod 
u+s filename). You should also chmod go-rw filename so that a regular 
user cannot modify it and do something bad.

But nothing is as bad as Windows, so I guess this is an option.

-Steve

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Re: [OT] How to turn on echo or date/time UDP services on OS X?

2003-08-23 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 10:58  AM, Steve Gehlbach wrote:

Thanks for the RTFM, I did not realize the root restriction was lifted 
for higher ports.  I can say for sure that Windows does not have the 
restriction, I have tested it.

I need to use UDP port 67 for a bootp server, which is used in one of 
my user apps for re-installing software on an embedded system (I'm 
porting to RR).  So the program will have to be run as root, I guess.

The other option (sometimes used by http and smtp) is to put the file 
permissions as set uid root
Yeah suid root is supposed to be evil.

If it's a long running process, and security is a goal you could figure 
out how to startup as root, then switch to a non-privileged user after 
that. Maybe an external calling setuid() or some other C system call. 
This would be like apache- ones does apachectl start as root and it 
spawns of httpd processes, listing to privileged ports, but running as 
user www or nobody instead of root.

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
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Re: Rev CGI engine

2003-08-23 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 09:06  AM, Mike Doub wrote:

revolution/engines/windows.gz   Is this
correct engine for a windows system?  If so, would winzip uncompress 
it?  I
would have thought so, but it does not.   I am suspecting a corrupt 
file.
Any one else having problems with this?
.gz is GZIP format (which is the same used by rev's compress and 
decompress functions).

I thought for sure that Winzip could deal with .gz format, and it 
claims to support GZIP in it's help file, but I'll be darned if I can 
get it to unzip that file!

The Windows.gz file is OK I verified it by using gunzip on OS X.

Use Rev's builtin compression functions to do it with a short script, 
or try another tool. I think Stuffit Expander from Aladdin can handle 
gzip files.

Alex Rice, Software Developer
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Re: Release Candidate 1 Available -- Special Offers End Soon

2003-08-23 Thread Heather Williams
 I don't think we have any plans to withdraw this offer in the short or
 medium term, but in the long term obviously, we are likely to stop
 supporting the subscription model in favour of the new licensing. You should
 be pretty safe to wait until December, but if we do have any plans to
 discontinue the subscription renewals, we will certainly tell everybody and
 give you a last chance to renew.
 
 
 Hmm, now this is confusing. You say that your new licensing model is
 not subscriptions?! What is the difference? Are we now required to
 maintain valid license at all times? So far, we were allowed to renew
 even if it was expired.

Maybe I'm using confusing terminology. What I mean by the subscription
model is the kind of licensing system we've had where you buy a license for
a year, and get all upgrades free during that year (and before anybody asks,
no, that doesn't mean your Revolution will stop working after a year, it
just means you don't get any more free upgrades). Enterprise still works
that way: buy an Enterprise license or renewal and it includes all upgrades
for a year. However, Studio and Express are now single version licenses. You
buy a license for the shipping version of Revolution only, and purchase
further upgrades as and when you need them. Actually, to be strictly
accurate, you get one free upgrade with Studio, and then you have to start
paying for them. Express gives you no upgrades at all.

We are maintaining the subscription model for the moment, for existing
customers only, who hold licenses to 2.0.1 or earlier.

The question of renewal after expiry is a different issue. To date we have
never required that you maintain your license at all times, and I can't see
us doing that. We'd prefer you to renew within a reasonable time interval of
course...

Regards,

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Re: How revert not the current stack???

2003-08-23 Thread Klaus Major
Bon soir François.

Hello!
Thank you Björnke, but I so stupid that I don't understand!
I have read the transcript dictionary of course!
But I'm unable to save from my current mainstack by script the other
mainstack Users and after revert it. Here is the matter for me!!
Why not save into a temporary file and delete it on quit?

Hint ;-)

specialfolderpath(Temporary)

Should be easy to maintain a list of temp-stacks...
This way revert will work at least ;-)
Hope that helps...

Friendly

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Re: HC to R question

2003-08-23 Thread Dale Pond




Thanks Richard. I wasn't knocking Rev, just a bit bewildered by the slightly
different way it handles scripts I've long used. Not to worry! I'll check
out Jacque's article.
Dale

Richard Gaskin wrote:

  Dale Pond wrote:

  
  
Seems Rev doesn't like abbreviations

  
  
Rev is very good about honoring abbreviations, and offers them for its
unique object types as well (e.g., "scrollbar" can be written "sb" -- thank
you Scott!).

Rev is also generally good about being able to identify objects by name,
ordinal number, or ID.  If you've encountered problems addressing cards by
name and find that the ordinal number works, I'd double-check the card name
in question and whether it's in the default stack at the time the handler is
called.

For example, palette windows are not a true stack in HyperCard, so any
script in a palette which navigates to a card by name will assume it's
referring to the topmost stack.  But with Rev allowing stacks to take on a
variety of modes, including palette, the defaultStack and the topStack may
not always be the same thing.  You coud get past that ny setting the default
stack from your palette's script:

  on mouseUp
set the defaultStack to the topStack
go next
  end mouseUp

Another factor that may come into play is the difference between how
HyperCard and Revolution refer to objects.  In HyperCard you must specify
"bg" for background buttons and "cd" for card fields.  Rev takes a simpler
approach in which references to objects do not need to specify layer.  For
compatibility, however, the hcAddressing stack property makes Rev use
HyperCard0style object references.  If memory serves this property is set to
false for new stacks but true for stacks converted from the HyperCard
format.

For a great discussion of conversion issues see Jacque Gay's excellent
article on the subject at:
http://www.hyperactivesw.com/mctutorial/index.html
  

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Re: General license questions

2003-08-23 Thread Heather Williams
 I have some general license questions.  I hope it is OK to ask general
 questions here as others might elaborate on the questions, supply
 interpretations and also appreciate answers.

Seems reasonable to me.
 
 1.
 The new license table has a Create applications for column.  I assume
 that means standalones and all licenses can build stacks for all
 platforms.  Is that correct?

Yes it means standalones, but no, Express can't build for all platforms. It
only builds applications for the platform you license it for. Other licenses
all build for all platforms.
 
 2.
 I assume that WIN32 for the time being is one platform.  Is that
 correct?
 
Yes.

 3.
 Are printed manuals included in Enterprise renewals?

No, renewal doesn't include manuals.

Regards,

Heather

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upgrades vs. bug fixing

2003-08-23 Thread erik hansen
hypothetically,
if a user has 4.0, and a few months later 4.1
is released, does the 4.0 user need to upgrade
to fix any bugs that exist in 4.0?

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RE: Rev CGI engine

2003-08-23 Thread Mike Doub
I have tried Winzip, Powerarchiver and Revolution itself on a Windows XP
system.  None can decompress
http://www.runrev.com/revolution/engines/Windows.gz   Is anyone else having
this problem?

-- Mike

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On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 09:06  AM, Mike Doub wrote:

 revolution/engines/windows.gz   Is this
 correct engine for a windows system?  If so, would winzip uncompress
 it?  I
 would have thought so, but it does not.   I am suspecting a corrupt
 file.
 Any one else having problems with this?

.gz is GZIP format (which is the same used by rev's compress and
decompress functions).

I thought for sure that Winzip could deal with .gz format, and it
claims to support GZIP in it's help file, but I'll be darned if I can
get it to unzip that file!

The Windows.gz file is OK I verified it by using gunzip on OS X.

Use Rev's builtin compression functions to do it with a short script,
or try another tool. I think Stuffit Expander from Aladdin can handle
gzip files.

Alex Rice, Software Developer
Architectural Research Consultants, Inc.
http://ARCplanning.com

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Re: image paste

2003-08-23 Thread erik hansen

hello J.

i asked you once before for the address of the
clockmaker to send ten bucks to. this time there
is a money order and stamped envelope in hand.

couldn't find the address on the HyperActive
site. could i trouble you for the address?

thanks, Erik

p.s. 
agreed with your comments about upgrades.
nothing for nothing.

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Re: image paste

2003-08-23 Thread erik hansen

big oops, thought i was off list
as well as off topic.


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Re: General license questions

2003-08-23 Thread Edwin Gore
Heather,

I believe that the question being asked is - Can a .rev file built in
Express be run with any other version.

I'm assuming that's a yes...and it makes me wonder...what happens when
somebody finally does the thing that has long been discussed on this list,
and builds a generic Player type application, using Studio or Pro.

That's going to be a problem, isn't it, since that would allow someone with
Express to deploy on any platform potentially.


- Original Message - 
 Yes it means standalones, but no, Express can't build for all platforms.
It
 only builds applications for the platform you license it for. Other
licenses
 all build for all platforms.

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Re: Hiliting a listfield line as I type?

2003-08-23 Thread yoy
Klaus,

THAT is some POWERFUL magic!!!

Thanks for sharing it!!!

All the best,

Andy


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 Hi yoy,
 
  Rob,
 
  That's EXACTLY the behavior (Scroll To) I want!
  But... how do I read the scripts?
 
 One smart solution ;-) is to use the messagebox:
 
 Type:
 
 edit script of the mousecontrol
 
 DON'T hit RETURN yet!!!
 
 Instead positon the cursor on top of that menubutton
 and THEN hit RETURN...
 
 Et voila, you can edit the script of the mousecontrol, see the docs
 for more info about this handy little sucker ;-)
 
  I opened the stack via the Open Stack menu
  but I can't get it into edit mode. It doesn't show in the Application
  Browser..
 
 See menu: View - Revolution UI Elemnts in List
 
 et voila, there they are in the App Browser: stacks galore...
 ...and you will hardly find your own couple of stacks anymore ;-)
 
  Sorry to appear so clueless.
 
 ...as long as you love your mom ;-)
 
  But that's it!
  Thanks!
 
  Andy
 
  Hi Andy,
 
  Look at the script of Transcript Dictionary's field  preceded by the
  Filter with popUp.
  -- 
  Rob Cozens, CCW
  Serendipity Software Company
  http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm
 
 Hope that helps...
 
 Regards
 
 Klaus Major
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