Re: [OT] Rev on Linux PPC - Would you use it?
On Oct 31, 2003, at 5:28 PM, Igor Couto wrote: So, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER USING A LINUX PPC VERSION OF REV, please DROP ME A LINE. If there is enough show of interest in this topic, then I will message the RunRev team, and let them know that we'd suppor their efforts in that area! Not to flood the list with me too's but... me too. Looking at Rev's target audience, it makes a more sense to substitute Linux PPC for RS/6000 or HP-UX (or if a substitution is required- otherwise just add it in there with the platforms) I've used LinuxPPC in the past, and one of my coworkers currently runs Linux development (not Rev development though) machines on old cast-off Macs. Occasionally you *will* run into bizarre hardware conflicts with LinuxPPC. Occasionally I couldn't get my Mac to boot Linux at all. Sometimes kernel panics. This was about 3 years ago. Today, it's sometimes firmware issues. There was this one server that would not reboot after a power outage, because of some problem with the openfirmware. (not good for a server machine). So Linux PPC is definitely more bleeding edge then x86-PC Linux which much more widely used and tested. It's an interesting point you make about getting $200 fully-featured Mac workstations. Old x86 PC slow computers are so abundant it's hard to even *give* them away. But the key phrase that I have to agree with is _fully-featured_. Macs are always loaded. Modem, ethernet, sound, video. The homogeneity of Mac hardware configurations is something that makes life easier as compared with the PC camp where who knows what combination of hardware is thrown into that beige box. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Rev on Linux PPC - Would you use it?
Le sam 01/11/2003 04:46, Ken Norris a crit : Hi Igor, Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:28:05 +1100 From: Igor Couto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Rev on Linux PPC - Would you use it? So, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER USING A LINUX PPC VERSION OF REV, please DROP ME A LINE. If there is enough show of interest in this topic, then I will message the RunRev team, and let them know that we'd suppor their efforts in that area! -- Absolutely. I'm not much enamored with the giant, memory-sucking OS' (Windows XP/Mac OSX Panther). YellowDog Linux sounds good to me, and will give my disabled users a leg up with cheaper machines. I'd love to do my developing there. Ken N. Hi Igor and All, A LinuxPPC issue of Rev would be really helpfull, for me too... In the past (1998/2002), my first MC/Rev development platform was the Suse LinuxPPC and, because, my customers preferences for the x86 world, Suse Linux x86 was my first deployment/production platform. When Suse dicide to discontinue the LinuxPPC issue of its distro, and because my last IBook2.2 was no more supported by the Suse 7.3 issue (XFree86), i switched to YellowDog 3... In the same time, Scott decide to discontinue the LinuxPPC edition of a MC 2.5 engine, in considering that it would be more difficult to compile the 2.5 engine for LinuxPPC than to invite two customers (was, Andu Novac and me) switch to the x86 development/deployment platform... So ! I'm sure Scott was fully right and i'm sure, too, that a Rev's LinuxPPC engine could be back, if enough of us let the Rev's team know about : please, if possible, give us a LinuxPPC engine back ;-) -- Best Regards, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Inspection acadmique de Seine-Saint-Denis Applications et SGBD ACID SQL (WEB et PGI) Penser et produire delta de productivit ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
Does anyone know of a cross platform 1344-bit or similar program? Hi David, I assume this is for domestic purposes, or that you are aware of US government restrictions on the export of encryption software supporting keys 64 bits: From the Rev IPC group: 1. Very few restrictions exists if the encryption level is 64 bit or lower. 2. Just to post encryption source code to the internet requires notification, beyond that it is OK to post the source code. Including the encryption source code in the libIPC means that it will have to be restricted under ENC review. Someone will have to file papers and get approval to release higher than 64 bit encryption. some cryptoExportSpeek: (3) Eligible software. All software that is controlled by the Commerce Control List (Supplement No.1 to part 774 of the EAR), and under Commerce licensing jurisdiction, is eligible for export and reexport, subject to the restrictions of this paragraph (c). Encryption software controlled for EI reasons under ECCN 5D002 is eligible for export and reexport under this paragraph (c), provided that the exporter has submitted the information described in paragraph (c)(8) of this section by the time of export. Final encryption products produced by the testing consignee are subject to any applicable provisions in °Ë742.15(b)(2) of the EAR (for mass market encryption commodities and software with symmetric key length exceeding 64-bits) or °Ë740.17 of the EAR (License Exception ENC), including review and reporting requirements. FWIW, thanks to Mark Brownell, the IPC group's library will support Blowfish encryption in a future release; but only to 64 bits because of the legal issues. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
On Nov 1, 2003, at 7:06 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: I assume this is for domestic purposes, or that you are aware of US government restrictions on the export of encryption software supporting keys 64 bits: Rob and Mark- David didn't state his intent for the crypto, but the URL he posted was for a consumer product for disk encryption. Why should he be worried about export restrictions? BTW I thought US export restrictions were eased because the Feds realized they were really messing things up for US software companies not being able to compete internationally? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Alex Rice wrote: BTW I thought US export restrictions were eased because the Feds realized they were really messing things up for US software companies not being able to compete internationally? Alex, This is the new eased export improvements, how do you like them? :-) nothing to the bad 7 nations, 64 bit to some, 128 bit to others, licenses through a revue process only and in writing. All this applies if you provide a point in your software where the user can change the encryption key used to encrypt/decrypt. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Opening stacks
Hi Rob, From: Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opening stacks To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] How do I get (non-standalone) stacks to open Rev when I doubleclick the file? Hi Ken, Double-clicking does it for me on Mac OS 10.2. -- Hmmm. I didn't know that, but... I'm in OS 9.2.1, and double-clicking doesn't work under Rev 2.0.1. The Macs I may be using for some projects will not run OSX. So can I do something to the stack files, other than standalone? Right now, I keep a Rev alias in the folders, and I DD the stack onto the Rev alias icon, which opens it in Rev, so it's no big deal. I was just wondering. Ken N. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
On Nov 1, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Mark Brownell wrote: This is the new eased export improvements, how do you like them? :-) nothing to the bad 7 nations, 64 bit to some, 128 bit to others, licenses through a revue process only and in writing. All this applies if you provide a point in your software where the user can change the encryption key used to encrypt/decrypt. Blech! That's bad news. Thanks, Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Rev on Linux PPC - Would you use it?
Hi Judy, Le sam 01/11/2003 22:41, Judy Perry a crit : My lone linux student (using an intel box I think) has complained mightily to me that he's had nothing but trouble trying to use the 30-day eval version and so has given up (and hence won't be buying it anytime soon). (Mind you -- it's not like he's given me any specifics and just seemed to be in a complaining mood). Do any Rev Linux users out there have any general tips or 'gotcha's' that they can pass along? Because the Linux Rev's issues have probably not been extensivelly tested under many kind of Linux distributions, a newbie can get some troubbles in running Rev under Linux. The best to do is to install it under a RedHat distro and to test Rev under differents XFree86 graphical desktop managers, Gnome, first, and KDE, last. For my own, to avoid possibles problems, i'm still running MC 2.5 under Linux (Suse 8 Pro x86) and Rev 2.1.1 under MacOSX (Jaguar). Hope this help ! Best Regards, Pierre The MacAddict review noted that Rev seems to crash unexpectedly, but I've honestly not had that problem since the OSX appearance manager thingy got fixed... It crashes ALOT in the class lab, but the machines in there only have 128 MB RAM. Thanks, Judy On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Bill Vlahos wrote: I would like to deploy my apps for PPC Linux although I will continue to use OS X as my primary development platform. I don't know if it would be easier for RunRev to resume making the distribution engine for PPC Linux even if they don't make an IDE for it. Obviously it would be best to have everything for every platform but that would at least let me deploy for PPC Linux. Revolution offers the linux community exactly what it needs but doesn't have...a powerful yet easy to use programming environment. If I was a Linux freak I'd be all over Revolution. Of course having to actually buy software goes against the grain of most of the linux users I know. I'd be curious to know how well any of the Rev apps you folks have been selling are actually getting money from linux users. I wrote an electronic phone book for my previous company which the Mac and Windows community loved, but the linux users looked down on it because it was a GUI app and they already had finger (and that app was even free). Bill Vlahos On Friday, October 31, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Igor Couto wrote: So, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER USING A LINUX PPC VERSION OF REV, please DROP ME A LINE. If there is enough show of interest in this topic, then I will message the RunRev team, and let them know that we'd suppor their efforts in that area! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Fax: +33 1 64 45 05 33 Inspection acadmique de Seine-Saint-Denis Applications et SGBD ACID SQL (WEB et PGI) Penser et produire delta de productivit ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
That's right Alex, I just need to protect some sensitive stuff of my own computer, not to be included in any salable product. In any event, I'm Canadian, and DriveCrypt is German so I really couldn't care less about US cryptography laws. I'm still looking out for a cross-platform product (as I mentioned in my original post). Unless I find something very soon, I'll be purchasing DriveCrypt next week. In the event that my PC laptop is stolen, I'll use DriveCrypt on my Mac under VirtualPC to resurrect my backed-up protected data. On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Alex Rice wrote: On Nov 1, 2003, at 7:06 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: I assume this is for domestic purposes, or that you are aware of US government restrictions on the export of encryption software supporting keys 64 bits: Rob and Mark- David didn't state his intent for the crypto, but the URL he posted was for a consumer product for disk encryption. Why should he be worried about export restrictions? BTW I thought US export restrictions were eased because the Feds realized they were really messing things up for US software companies not being able to compete internationally? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Alex Rice wrote: On Nov 1, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Mark Brownell wrote: This is the new eased export improvements, how do you like them? :-) nothing to the bad 7 nations, 64 bit to some, 128 bit to others, licenses through a revue process only and in writing. All this applies if you provide a point in your software where the user can change the encryption key used to encrypt/decrypt. Blech! That's bad news. Thanks, Alex Rice If you sell software using Kagi then they will not sell to countries that shouldn't get your software for you. This is good enough if you are selling encryption software. You just have to make the effort to license your higher level applications first. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Runtime Revolution in the classroom
Hi Revolutionaries! I was looking for recomended guidelines on the use of xCards in the classrooms. For now, I have found this information: http://d2.virt.pciwest.net/LL/27/7/features/painter/rubric.html Notice that this page is from the magazine: Learning Leading with Technology ISTE publish another magazine: Journal of Research on Technology in Education Teachers that use Revolution in the classroom will benefit from having a central repository of specific information and experiences for this platform. What others highly useful sources of information do you use frecuently in your work as a teacher? Alejandro Tejada = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Spirit of the Season
on Thu Oct 30 10:48:53 EST 2003 Scott Rossi wrote: To celebrate the upcoming end of October, we cobbled together a spooky little diversion. go stack url http://www.tactilemedia.com/mediaplayer/stacks/games/ouija/ouija.rev; Hi Scott, If you convert this stack to a stack for Creativity, Inspiration, Idea starter (with new phrases added via web updates) then we can have an extraordinary resource that will be useful everyday, not only in Halloween. :) I remember that someone wrote one like this in Hypercard, but could not find it in my archives. :( Al = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Search the mail list: http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] 1344 bit encryption
If you are using Mac OS X 10.2.x (Jaguar) then you can create encrypted disk images using the built in Disk Copy program. Just create an encrypted disk image and it behaves like any drive. To use it just copy files to it. If you are using Mac OS X 10.3.x (Panther) there is an even easier-to-use built in feature called FileVault which encrypts your entire home directory automatically once you turn it on. Both of these are free and available now. I believe all you need to do for VirtualPC is to have it point to a Mac volume which is encrypted to get your protection. Bill Vlahos On Nov 1, 2003, at 3:49 PM, David Kwinter wrote: That's right Alex, I just need to protect some sensitive stuff of my own computer, not to be included in any salable product. In any event, I'm Canadian, and DriveCrypt is German so I really couldn't care less about US cryptography laws. I'm still looking out for a cross-platform product (as I mentioned in my original post). Unless I find something very soon, I'll be purchasing DriveCrypt next week. In the event that my PC laptop is stolen, I'll use DriveCrypt on my Mac under VirtualPC to resurrect my backed-up protected data. On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Alex Rice wrote: On Nov 1, 2003, at 7:06 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: I assume this is for domestic purposes, or that you are aware of US government restrictions on the export of encryption software supporting keys 64 bits: Rob and Mark- David didn't state his intent for the crypto, but the URL he posted was for a consumer product for disk encryption. Why should he be worried about export restrictions? BTW I thought US export restrictions were eased because the Feds realized they were really messing things up for US software companies not being able to compete internationally? Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tiling Images
Hi all: Below is the code I use which makes a nice column of images. repeat with x = 1 to myvara put directory / line x of myfilelist into myPath create image myimage x in group large_group put myimage x into newName set the location of image newName to 100,((115*x)) set the filename of image newName of group large_group to myPath if (the formattedHeight of image newName the formattedWidth of image newName) then set the height of image newName of group large_group to 100 put 100/the formattedheight of image newName of group large_group into ratio set the width of image newName of group large_group to round(the formattedWidth of image newName of group large_group * ratio) else set the width of image newName of group large_group to 125 put 125/the formattedwidth of image newName of group large_group into ratio set the height of image newName of group large_group to round(the formattedheight of image newName of group large_group * ratio) end if however I would like to tile the images into rows as well and just can't come up with the methodology to get them to. If anyone could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated. thanks Robert Herbstzuber ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
