Preferences open up instead of my stack?

[Alex Rice]

What does it mean if, when I double click on a Rev file on my desktop, 
Revolution.app app opens but opens Revolution.app's Preferences stack 
instead of the one I clicked on? Very bizarre. I hope this 
document-app-binding business gets straightened out in the next 
release. (OS X 10.3.1, Rev 2.1.2)

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dealing with library substacks

[Alex Rice]

I don't like to put my library of back scripts into a set of buttons on 
a library card. Although seems to be a popular way, and I guess the 
Object library could be used with this method. The Rev IDE actually is 
implemented that way.

Instead I much prefer using substacks for back scripts because they 
show up nicely in the application browser.

Here is a really simple stack that automates some of the work of 
loading and saving library stacks as substacks to and from files on 
disk. You will have to customize it for your own workflow. But maybe it 
be useful.

 

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Re: Bug# 38 baseConvert

[Dar Scott]

On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 09:58 AM, Wouter wrote:

in Bug# 38 on Bugzilla is stated:

x = 
baseConvert(x,16, 2) = 
baseConvert(x,16,10) = -4294967295   <---
which should be :
unsigned int 4294967295
signed int -1
By "unsigned int" and "signed int" we are placing an interpretation on 
the function that is not stated in its definition.  Well, not stated by 
2.1.1; I have yet to download 2.1.2.



But

the reverse
baseConvert("4294967295",10,16)  -->     (correct)
baseConvert("-4294967295",10,16) --> -  (negative hex, wow)
baseConvert("-1",10,16)  --> -1  (hope it is not 
called a feature)
This can easily be called a feature with the right interpretation.  As 
the one right above it.

also

put baseconvert("D1310BA6",16,10)-->  -3509652390 (correct)
I fooled myself the first time I saw something like this with 
baseConvert().  No, the correct answer is 3509652390.  (This is the 
same as the bug at the top.)  If "D1310BA6" is interpreted as the bit 
pattern put into a signed (2's complement) variable, then the result 
should be -785314906.

put baseconvert("-3509652390",10,16) --> -D1310BA6  (wow again)
This is correct in a pure base interpretation, but creates a strange 
equality when viewed with the above result.
So the baseConvert(, 10, 16)  gives correct results when 
using unsigned integers up to 4294967295.
4294967296 gives the zero result.
But  the negative signed integers are considered as unsigned integers 
prefixed with a "-" and the result  is rendered as a prefixed hex.
baseConvert("-1",10,16) should result in FFF1 as 
baseConvert("F1",16,10) results in 241.
If -1 is interpreted as the pattern in a 32-bit two's complement 
variable, then the result is .  As I mentioned above, it might 
also be interpreted as the decimal number meaning negative one.  That 
can also be represented as the hex number negative one.  I like -1 base 
10 = -1 base 16.


Or one should be able to choose between a signed or unsigned result in 
the baseConvert(, , ) function.
In its simplest form, base conversion is a numeral to numeral 
conversion.  That is, it is string to string.  The resulting string has 
the same _meaning_ as the input stream if read with the indicated base. 
 The meaning, the in-between step implied by the function, is pure 
integer.

A decimal numeral can be used as a numerical value in Revolution, and 
if within a range, without loss.

My Transcript Dictionary does not define the behavior of the function 
for negative numerals.

Even with the above bug function baseConvert() is suitable for base 
conversions with numerical meanings within some range.  If the bug 
mentioned at the top if fixed then baseConvert() would be suitable for 
base conversions within some more useful larger range.  If the fix does 
not break the sign feature discovered, then it is reasonable that 
documentation expand the range to include negative numbers.

The documentation shows the allowed base between 2 and 36.  The use is 
more general than alternate representations of a 32-bit container of 
some sort.

It would be nice if the range was expanded to that closer to the range 
for numerical results in Revolution.  Or indefinite.  I might be the 
only one interested.

Currently, I do not use baseConvert() with negative values and wrap it 
in abs() to avoid the bug mentioned at the top for values 2^31 and up.

However, there is a need for alternate representations of 
unsigned/signed (2's complement) 8/16/31/64/128-bit int/float values in 
communications, binary emulations and in working with binary files.  
For the most part, I use binaryEncode() and binaryDecode() for these.  
Values can be displayed in hex and in binary.  Some of the formats use 
the host encoding and thus are almost worthless; I do some fiddling to 
get the portable conversions I want.  My wish list includes better 
formats.

I agree, Wouter.  Better base conversion and better binary-handling 
functions.  My preference is to leave baseConvert() something the 
mathematicians would like and find other functions for representing 
binary computerish values.

However, if you proposed that base convert have an optional parameter 
(or two) that defined the holder for the intermediate value, I would 
not oppose that.  That could be handy.  It might be a string with "U32" 
as the default value.

Dar Scott

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Re: Your Software

[Bob Hartley]

At 18:25 09/12/2003, you wrote:
Hi Everyone,


Hi Rod


Firstly thanks to everyone who sent me information on the software they 
are developing. This is the final call (if you like) for this year and I 
would be grateful if anyone who has an application in development could 
complete the short summary below and send it back to me in the next 24 
hours, you can still send information in after that point but it's too 
late for the current year.

Application Name: PicMover
Version: 1
Availablility: Now
Publisher: Armbase www.armbase.com
Website: For download. http://www.gla.ac.uk/~rh82p/index.html
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platforms: Microsoft windows
OS X Native?: No
Demo available: no, full application
Price: free
Description (30 words or less)
This is a quick way to search directories for filetypes and move them 
en-masse. It was develpoed to transfer the RGB-channel files from a biorad 
confocal microscope.


Regards
Bob; Sunny Glasgow 

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Re: Your Software

[Bob Hartley]

At 18:25 09/12/2003, you wrote:
Hi Everyone,

Firstly thanks to everyone who sent me information on the software they 
are developing. This is the final call (if you like) for this year and I 
would be grateful if anyone who has an application in development could 
complete the short summary below and send it back to me in the next 24 
hours, you can still send information in after that point but it's too 
late for the current year.

Application Name: ABcitation
Version: 1
Availablility: February
Publisher: Armbase
Website: www.armbase.com
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platforms: Microsoft Windows
OS X Native?: No (but in th future)
Demo available: Full application shareware
Price: 5 dollars
Description (30 words or less) Bibliography manager for scientific journal 
references. There are many "Free" apps that are better. But they have a 
steep learning curve. ABcitation is simple, and simple to use. :-)

Thanks to everyone for their help so far.


Regards
Bob

Best,

Rod

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re: your software

[Bob Hartley]

Hi Again Rod

Here is another one I wrote in my first week using revolution.

Application Name: PicMover
Version: 1
Availablility: Now
Publisher: Armbase www.armbase.com
Website: For download. http://www.gla.ac.uk/~rh82p/index.html
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platforms: Microsoft windows
OS X Native?: No
Demo available: no, full application
Price: free
Description (30 words or less)
This is a quick way to search directories for filetypes and move them 
en-masse. It was develpoed to transfer the RGB-channel files from a biorad 
confocal microscope.

Cheers
Bob; Sunny Glasgow
Dr Robert Hartley, Armbase Software Developments.
Custom PDA database design in as little as 1 hour.
Cross-platform custom solutions for Windows, MacOS, Linux, UNIX, BSD
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Re: Bug# 38 baseConvert

[Wouter]

On 09 Dec 2003, at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:58:30 +0100
From: Wouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bug# 38 baseConvert
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
snip


But  the negative signed integers are considered as unsigned integers
prefixed with a "-" and the result  is rendered as a prefixed hex.
baseConvert("-1",10,16) should result in FFF1 as
baseConvert("F1",16,10) results in 241.
Oops typo:

baseConvert("-1",10,16) should result in FFF1
should be :

baseConvert("-15",10,16) should result in FFF1

Sorry,

WA

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Re: Your Software

[Thierry Arbellot]

Hi Rod,

Here you are.

Application Name: TOKI LineTest
Version: 4.0
Availablility: Now or supply an estimated date. Early in 2004
Publisher: not decided yet, still under negotiation
Website: www.geocities.com/tokilinetest (new website will be setup)
Contact Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Platforms: MacOS X, Windows 2K
OS X Native?: Yes
Demo available: Yes
Price: 299 Euros
Description (30 words or less)
TOKI LineTest is a professional software of linetest for the making of 
animation movies and cartoons, allowing to capture images and sounds, 
build an exposure sheet frame by frame and watch it in real time.
Made with Revolution & QuickTime

Regards.
Thierry
On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 07:25 PM, Rod McCall wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Firstly thanks to everyone who sent me information on the software 
they are developing. This is the final call (if you like) for this 
year and I would be grateful if anyone who has an application in 
development could complete the short summary below and send it back to 
me in the next 24 hours, you can still send information in after that 
point but it's too late for the current year.

Application Name:
Version:
Availablility: Now or supply an estimated date.
Publisher:
Website:
Contact Email:
Platforms:
OS X Native?: Yes/No
Demo available:
Price:
Description (30 words or less)
Thanks to everyone for their help so far.

Best,

Rod

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Re: Bug# 38 baseConvert

[Wouter]

On 10 Dec 2003, at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 01:57:48 -0700
From: Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug# 38 baseConvert
To: How to use Revolution <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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snip

I fooled myself the first time I saw something like this with
baseConvert().  No, the correct answer is 3509652390.  (This is the
same as the bug at the top.)  If "D1310BA6" is interpreted as the bit
pattern put into a signed (2's complement) variable, then the result
should be -785314906.
Yes you are right. This means it is even worse.


put baseconvert("-3509652390",10,16) --> -D1310BA6  (wow again)
This is correct in a pure base interpretation, but creates a strange
equality when viewed with the above result.
Then shouldn't it be:
   baseconvert("-785314906",10,16) --> D1310BA6
   baseconvert("3509652390",10,16) --> 2ECEF45A
and not the other way around ?
It would be nice if the range was expanded to that closer to the range
for numerical results in Revolution.  Or indefinite.  I might be the
only one interested.
Oh no , you are not :-)

Currently, I do not use baseConvert() with negative values and wrap it
in abs() to avoid the bug mentioned at the top for values 2^31 and up.
However, there is a need for alternate representations of
unsigned/signed (2's complement) 8/16/31/64/128-bit int/float values in
communications, binary emulations and in working with binary files.
For the most part, I use binaryEncode() and binaryDecode() for these.
But these function also should be overhauled as to make the results 
uniform over all platforms.

Values can be displayed in hex and in binary.  Some of the formats use
the host encoding and thus are almost worthless; I do some fiddling to
get the portable conversions I want.  My wish list includes better
formats.
I agree, Wouter.  Better base conversion and better binary-handling
functions.  My preference is to leave baseConvert() something the
mathematicians would like and find other functions for representing
binary computerish values.
However, if you proposed that base convert have an optional parameter
(or two) that defined the holder for the intermediate value, I would
not oppose that.  That could be handy.  It might be a string with "U32"
as the default value.
Agreed.
I am also dreaming of things like this:
get "D1310BA6"  xOr   "4B7A70E9"
And only do the conversions when really needed.
Dar Scott

Thanks for the elucidations.

WA

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[ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Malte Brill]

Hi List,

after some little headaches I finally finished my first game in Rev.

Standalones for Os X ,Classic and Win

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah

the stack

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah/yibbah.rev.zip

I hope you like it. If you see any Problems with the Standalones please let
me know. If anyone with a Linux box could check if it works there also, I´d
be very grateful as I could compile for Linux then... :-)
Also I´d like to say good bye for a while, as I´m going to be a bit quiet
looking forward to the birth of my first child in about 2-3 weeks and there
are yet so many things undone that have to be prepared. I´ll check my email
and try to reply as fast as I can.

Regards to all of you, you are wonderful!!!

Malte

Ps: Please let me know your Scores.



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RE: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Ken Ray]

> Also I´d like to say good bye for a while, as I´m going to be a 
> bit quiet looking forward to the birth of my first child in 
> about 2-3 weeks and there are yet so many things undone that 
> have to be prepared. 

Congratulations, Malte! Perhaps your baby's first word will be
"Transcript" ??

;-)

Ken Ray
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Simple question--what handler am I in?

[Mark Powell]

In a script window, is there any way to automatically know what handler you
are in the middle of (i.e. without scrolling to its opening or closing
declaration)?
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clickText

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Hello Revo User's

I have a glossary in my stack that has clickText as the find source. It 
used to go from a found selection to another, finding each instance of 
the word as the mouseup is clicked. All of a sudden it does not do it 
anymore. Instead it only finds the first instance of the word and goes 
no further BUT if I hold the control key on the mac it acts as 
expected/ as it did before. This script is in the glossary field itself 
so if you click a word in the field it is supposed to find other 
instances of that word each time you click on that word even if you 
click a different instance of that word. This was working and I loved 
it but now it's broke and I want it back.

The script is quite simple:

on mouseUP
  find the clickText in field "SearchField"
  put value(the foundLine) into field "Glos"
  --pass mouseUp
end mouseUP
I use a similar script in other text fields to look up words in this 
glossary field and they work. But they are in a background grp and as 
such need this script to do the lookup and come back to what card we 
are on. HOWEVER when we are on the "14: Glossary..." card this script 
finds each instance of the word click on from one to the next etc. 
until done.:

on mouseUp
  lock screen
   put the number of this card into lmyCard
find the clickText in field "SearchField" of card "14: Glossary..."
if the result is "Not found"  -- not the text of me in field 
"SearchField"
then
  beep
else
  put value(the foundLine) into field "Glos" -- Glos is a 
background grp
end if
go card lmyCard
unlock screen
end mouseUp

Any help from you guys is appreciated.
Tom


Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
2.1.2

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Re: Simple question--what handler am I in?

[Thomas J McGrath III]

Hello Mark,

Yes, under the view menu in REV choose the "Show Handler List" item and 
then when you click on a line of code in the code field the Handler 
List will show a highlighed handler name and it will be on the name of 
the handler you are in. If you click text in another handler then this 
highlight changes to that handler.

Pretty cool if you ask me.

Tom

On Dec 10, 2003, at 11:41 AM, Mark Powell wrote:

In a script window, is there any way to automatically know what 
handler you
are in the middle of (i.e. without scrolling to its opening or closing
declaration)?
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Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
2.1.2

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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Scott Rossi]

On 12/10/03 5:52 AM, "Malte Brill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> after some little headaches I finally finished my first game in Rev.

Cute game Malte (so far I have a high score of 534).

Danke,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Ken Norris]

Hi Malte,

> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:52:18 +0100
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Malte Brill)
> Subject: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

> http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah
> 
> the stack
> 
> http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah/yibbah.rev.zip
> 
> I hope you like it.
-
Cool!! I will play later, but it looks like a good job. Congratulations!!

Ken N.

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Re: Simple question--what handler am I in?

[Dan Friedman]

Mark,

I keep the "Show Handler List" (found in the "View" menu) option on.  It
displays a list of the script's handlers and keeps the active handler
highlighted.

Hope that helps,

Dan


> In a script window, is there any way to automatically know what handler you
> are in the middle of (i.e. without scrolling to its opening or closing
> declaration)?

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Re: Newbie - Timers and Send an example

[Stephen King]

Erik,

I have put together a very simple stack to show the differences between 3
methods to give as an example. if you want the stack, just email me off
list. Note that the differences in timing show best when another process is
running in background (I used a render package to get reasonable errors- but
I do have a 3GHz machine). The stack is not elegant as its just to show
different approaches - also I haven't really got used to the usual naming
convention yet!

# There are two Buttons sending TimerStart and TimerStop
#Fields are
#Send (message) This fld gives timer output based on SEND only
#Adjusted This fld gives timer output based on Send with time adjusted
dynamically
#System This field gives time with SEND acting as an interrupt to get
current system time
#Timer (clock) This field shows Elapsed time between Start and Stop from
System clock
#SendTime This fld shows how the dynamic adjustment behaves
#StopTimer This fld is a value used to finish timing loops if STOP not
pressed.
Global TimerStart
Global TimerlastAdjusted # Time at last SEND message for adjusted loop
Global AdjustOffset #SEND time for adjusted loop
Global StopRequest

On TimerStart
Put "0" into fld "Clock" # clear flds
Put "0" into fld "Send"
Put "0" into fld "Adjusted"
Put "0" into fld "System"
Put 30 into AdjustOffset # first SEND is after 30mS so this is the time
expected by adjust loop
Put false into StopRequest


put the milliseconds into TimerStart # record start time
put TimerStart into TimerlastAdjusted #Establish reference time for
adjust loop
put TimerStart + fld "StopTime" * 1000 into StopTimer # define Stop time
in terms of system milliseconds


SendLoop # Start loop using SEND only

send "AdjustedLoop" to card "Timer" in AdjustOffset milliSeconds # Start
Loop adjusting time dynamically

send "SystemLoop" to card "Timer" in 60 milliSeconds # Start Loop using
system time

# Offset Start times to make sure that the processes do not clash.


# Do something to occupy the program a bit until Stop time elapses
repeat until the milliseconds > StopTimer
wait for 2 milliseconds with messages
LoadingLoop
end repeat


TimerStop
end TimerStart

On TimerStop # If stop button pressed
put true into StopRequest
put (the milliseconds - TimerStart)/1000 into field "Clock"
end TimerStop

On SendLoop # this timer simply uses SEND message to increment field
if StopRequest <> true then Send "SendLoop" to me in 100milliseconds #
SEND message again
put 0.1 + fld "Send" into field "send"
end SendLoop

On AdjustedLoop
put the milliseconds into TimeNow
#determine actual elapsed time and compare with 100mS
Put (TimeNow - TimerLastAdjusted) into ElapsedTime
put ElapsedTime into fld "SendTime" # Just display how the SEND time is
being adjusted

if StopRequest <> true then Send "AdjustedLoop" to me in round(100*
(AdjustOffset/ElapsedTime)) milliseconds
# If time was different to AdjustOffset (expected time), then reduce or
increase it accordingly
# making sure it is still an integer. Note this is a very simple algorithmit
can be cleverer

Put 100 into AdjustOffset # This is just to change the 30 from the first
run of this loop to the 100 expected
Put TimeNow into TimerlastAdjusted # Save this time as reference for
next
Put 0.1 + field "Adjusted" into Field "Adjusted" # Update the fld with
the target loop time
end AdjustedLoop

On SystemLoop
put the milliseconds into TimeNow
if StopRequest <> true then Send "SystemLoop" to me in 100 milliSeconds
Put (TimeNow-TimerStart)/1000 into fld "System" # simply read system
time, take away start and this is the current time
end SystemLoop

On LoadingLoop # this is to add a bit of load. best done by running more
processes in background.
repeat 5000 times
put 1 into n
end repeat
end LoadingLoop

You should find that with minimal processes and a fast machine, all are
probably within 0.5% of each other. The adjusted timing fld SendTime hovers
around 98-102. Running background process then the straight SEND lags most
behind (in my tests upto 5 seconds in a minute) and the adjusted keeps
pretty well on track but the timing adjustment varies considerably from
80-120 as it continually tries to adjust the variation in SEND. The system
timer always tracks (by definition).

An important note is what happens if the user moves the window! while the
mouse is pressed on the window top border, the app stops (anyone know how to
stop this?). The Raw SEND approach just loses time (no messages sent). The
Adjusted approach goes AWOL for quite a while as it finds there has been a
massive delay in one loop and reduces the next dramatically then finds the
following was too short. This oscillates and may or may not settle down. The
SEND reading system time simply catches up.

Hope this hasn't been too long winded and is helpful.

Cheers
Steve

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where to send press releases on Windows & mac, too

[Brian Thomas]

Yesterday I posted "legendary Monks liberated by Revolution"

Right now as Revolution is talking about their efforts to promote 
products made with Revolution, I was hoping it wouldn't considered 
off-topic if I asked for some tips on where to send press releases 
-- particularily on Windows, but also on Mac

I'll start out. I sent a press release to Macintouch at the special 
press release email address listed below yesterday and got a real 
nice notice today. (that was easy)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For MacCentral I couldn't find any special press release address and 
just sent to their regular address. No results yet.

Does anyone have a list of sites on Mac, but also on Windows (where I 
am clue-les) ?

I'd bet I'm not the only that would be capturing such info.



--
Brian
http://www.rivertext.com/

If Monks had Macs - the director's cut
is now shipping for Windows as well as Macs
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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[cteno4]

Malte,

Congrats on this baby and the one on the way! good job on the game!

cheers,

jeff

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>
>Hi List,
>
>after some little headaches I finally finished my first game in Rev.
>
>Standalones for Os X ,Classic and Win
>
>http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah



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Re: where to send press releases on Windows & mac, too

[Mark Brownell]

On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 11:33  AM, Brian Thomas wrote:

Yesterday I posted "legendary Monks liberated by Revolution"
Nice going!

Does anyone have a list of sites on Mac, but also on Windows (where I 
am clue-les) ?

I'd bet I'm not the only that would be capturing such info.

Brian
Try versiontracker Mac & Windows

http://www.versiontracker.com/

Mark

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Re: Bug# 38 baseConvert

[Dar Scott]

On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 05:34 AM, Wouter wrote:

put baseconvert("-3509652390",10,16) --> -D1310BA6  (wow again)
This is correct in a pure base interpretation, but creates a strange
equality when viewed with the above result.
I was thinking of the problem that D1310BA6 = -D1310BA6 by transitivity 
of earlier results.

Then shouldn't it be:
   baseconvert("-785314906",10,16) --> D1310BA6
   baseconvert("3509652390",10,16) --> 2ECEF45A
and not the other way around ?
The first case assumes the value is put into a signed 32-bit (or 
greater) variable.  The lowest 32 bits of the variable is reinterpreted 
as unsigned 32-bit and then converted to hex.

In an extended baseConvert() this might be done with one of these:

baseConvert("-785314906",10,16,"S32","U32")
baseConvert("-785314906",10,16,"S48","U32")
I don't recognize a common interpretation in the second one.

For the most part, I use binaryEncode() and binaryDecode() for these.
But these function also should be overhauled as to make the results 
uniform over all platforms.
Yes.  There is a bugzilla enhancement request that adds portable 
formats, but leaves the host dependent ones for legacy.

I am also dreaming of things like this:
get "D1310BA6"  xOr   "4B7A70E9"
What about this?

 get u32("xD1310BA6") bitXOR u32("x4B7A70E9")
 get hexXOR("B1310BA6","4B7A70E9")
Or something similar.  This could be done with no changes.

Dar

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Re: where to send press releases on Windows & mac, too

[Richard Gaskin]

Brian Thomas wrote:

> Yesterday I posted "legendary Monks liberated by Revolution"
> 
> Right now as Revolution is talking about their efforts to promote
> products made with Revolution, I was hoping it wouldn't considered
> off-topic if I asked for some tips on where to send press releases
> -- particularily on Windows, but also on Mac
> 
> I'll start out. I sent a press release to Macintouch at the special
> press release email address listed below yesterday and got a real
> nice notice today. (that was easy)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> For MacCentral I couldn't find any special press release address and
> just sent to their regular address. No results yet.
> 
> Does anyone have a list of sites on Mac, but also on Windows (where I
> am clue-les) ?
> 
> I'd bet I'm not the only that would be capturing such info.

Even easier:  RunRev has a promotional program for products built with Rev
to help get the word out.

Drop an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details.

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Thanks (was Your Software)

[Rod McCall]

Hi everyone,

Firstly what a response! The range of software in development using 
Revolution is a credit to everyone on this list, from those writing the 
software to those who help out but aren't doing any projects right now. 
I will be contacting each person shortly regarding their submission.

Also, don't forget if you are developing software to let me know, and 
when it is ready to ship make sure you post it to these and any other 
relevant sites:
www.versiontracker.com
www.macupdate.com
www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/submit/ (Mac products guide)
www.download.com  (a fee may be payable)
www.tucows.com   (a fee may be payable)

Thank you!

Kind regards,

Rod

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lineoffset and itemoffset alltogether

[jbv]

Hi all,

Is there a function that returns at the same time the lineoffset
and the itemoffset of a searched string (for instance in the
form 15,4 for "item 4 of line 15") ?
Or is there a (fast) way to do that, instead of checking each
item of the line once the lineoffset has been found ?

Thanks,
JB

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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[David Kwinter]

After about 6 rounds I managed to get an 877. Fun game!

What's your best score?

On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 06:52  AM, Malte Brill wrote:

Ps: Please let me know your Scores.

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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Alex Rice]

On Dec 10, 2003, at 6:52 AM, Malte Brill wrote:

Regards to all of you, you are wonderful!!!

Malte

Ps: Please let me know your Scores.
That's a cute game :-) I got 380.

Are the highscores networked back to your server, or are they just 
highscores for my computer?

Are you going to add mouse support because on the About screen the 
Hulla follows the mouse horizontally, above the buttons, so it makes 
one want to start using the mouse when the game starts.

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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Thomas J McGrath III]

hey nice game

I got 117 - I am really sad.

one question: What are the question marks for? I thought they were 
helium, you know so I could float.

Next time I am going to get 120...

Tom

On Dec 10, 2003, at 8:52 AM, Malte Brill wrote:

Hi List,

after some little headaches I finally finished my first game in Rev.

Standalones for Os X ,Classic and Win

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah

the stack

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah/yibbah.rev.zip

I hope you like it. If you see any Problems with the Standalones 
please let
me know. If anyone with a Linux box could check if it works there 
also, I´d
be very grateful as I could compile for Linux then... :-)
Also I´d like to say good bye for a while, as I´m going to be a bit 
quiet
looking forward to the birth of my first child in about 2-3 weeks and 
there
are yet so many things undone that have to be prepared. I´ll check my 
email
and try to reply as fast as I can.

Regards to all of you, you are wonderful!!!

Malte

Ps: Please let me know your Scores.

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Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
2.1.2

Advanced Media Group
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Re: lineoffset and itemoffset alltogether

[Rob Cozens]

Hi all,

Is there a function that returns at the same time the lineoffset
and the itemoffset of a searched string (for instance in the
form 15,4 for "item 4 of line 15") ?
Or is there a (fast) way to do that, instead of checking each
item of the line once the lineoffset has been found ?
Is this what you want, JB?

function lineItemOffset targetText,searchString
   get lineOffset(targetText,searchString)
   if it is empty then return empty
   return it&comma&itemOffset(targetText,line it of searchString)
end lineItemOffset
--

Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm
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Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."
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Re: [ann] My game is finished. Yibbah!

[Björnke von Gierke]

HA I got 850 (ca) in my third attempt!
The shrinking pads are cool.
Little bug: There was a bonus (question mark) left from a previous 
game, and it remained there when I started a new game.
Also why do you have to start on a crane? Its kinda stressing cause i 
want to get to the first pad as fast as possible. Hmm is it possible to 
get back there? Didn't occur to me during gaming, might be a way to 
rest a little bit :)
Also its sad that you where unable to finish this before the udevgame 
contest, you could've entered! (http://www.idevgames.com)

On Mittwoch, Dez 10, 2003, at 14:52 Europe/Zurich, Malte Brill wrote:

Hi List,

after some little headaches I finally finished my first game in Rev.

Standalones for Os X ,Classic and Win

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah

the stack

http://www.derbrill.de/yibbah/yibbah.rev.zip

I hope you like it. If you see any Problems with the Standalones 
please let
me know. If anyone with a Linux box could check if it works there 
also, I´d
be very grateful as I could compile for Linux then... :-)
Also I´d like to say good bye for a while, as I´m going to be a bit 
quiet
looking forward to the birth of my first child in about 2-3 weeks and 
there
are yet so many things undone that have to be prepared. I´ll check my 
email
and try to reply as fast as I can.

Regards to all of you, you are wonderful!!!

Malte

Ps: Please let me know your Scores.

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"select an external image editor application"

[erik hansen]

trying to create an image,
got this far:

create image 
open Image Inspector
"select an external image editor application
(must handle PNG format images)"

have any prefered apps emerged for 2.1?

thanks, Erik

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Odd Characters in PC build text field

[duane poncy]

I have created a Cherokee Dictionary with Revolution 2.0, and now am 
trying to add flash cards. I have the program working fine, except I 
get odd characters in some of the Cherokee fonts in the Windows build. 
It is not a unicode font. The Cherokee font I am using requires the "+" 
, "-" , and "/" keys, all of which cause extra characters to show up on 
the PC build. Certain capital letters also seem to cause this this to 
happen. It is reproducable, with the same characters causing the same 
problem each time.  They all work fine in Mac OSX.  Does anyone have 
any ideas on how to fix this problem?

Thank you. 


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Re: OT: Convert WMA to AIFF or MP3

[Sannyasin Sivakatirswami]

Bob, thanks, great it works..

this is a small "quantum" leap forward in ease of voice audio  
recording. The Olumpus DM20 digital voice recorder is , 1.5 inches wide  
by about 3.5 inches tall and less than half inch thick. Records great  
quality audio/voice. Take it home, drop into it's little USB dock, file  
auto transfers to hard drive and pops up on desktop, drag and drop on  
Audion and we've got a high quality aiff file from a recording session  
with hardware that fits in the palm of your hand...

On Dec 6, 2003, at 10:59 PM, Bob Hartley wrote:

At 15:20 06/12/2003 -1000, you wrote:
Does anyone know of sound software that runs on OSX that will convert  
Window Media Audio files to AIFF or MP3? There are some really  
fabulous hand held gadgets out there that will record high quality  
sound you can stick the thing in a little fire wire dock and transfer  
to your mac and listen... problem is we need to take those WMA  
formats and turn them into MPG.


found this on the 3vix forum

quote'' 

Yes! I've done it! There is a GOOD way to decode WMA on a mac!

Tools you need:
1. Audion
2. You may need a registered version of Audion...not sure about this  
one. Mine is registered and I'm not sure what the trial version is  
capable of.

What to do:
1. Set up Decoders in Audion. To do this in select "Console" in the  
"Tools" menu. Make sure the WMA decoder is on in the decoders tab.

2. Set up Decoders in Audion. To to this hit the "Encoders" tab in the  
console. Here you can set up what you want to convert the WMA into.

3. Select "New Playlist" from the file menu.

4. Drag your WMA files onto this playlist.

5. Select "Encode All Playlist Items" in the "Tools" menu.

6. Wait for a few minutes and you have decoded your WMA files!

[Edit: Fixed a typo...]

(Edited by DaveyHavok0 at 9:40 pm on June 28, 2002)

cheers
bob

Email me off list. Thanks!
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Re: Your Software

[John Tenny]

Thanks for the reminder

Peace,

   John

John L. Tenny, Ph.D.
Flowing Thought Educational Solutions
503-508-3398
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Version: 1.0
Availablility: estimated date. March 15, 2004
Publisher: Flowing Thought Educational Solutions
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Platforms: Windows, Mac 9, Mac X
OS X Native?: Yes
Demo available:  yes (In March)
Price: $69.00
Description: Twenty two timer and counter tools used by School 
Administrators and Student Teacher Supervisors while observing teacher 
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OSX Pinstripes and Modeless Mode

[David Egbert]

I've been using modeless to open stacks so that they have the pinstripes
seen in MacOS 10.1 & 10.2.  Everything looks great in development, but when
I build the stacks as standalones modeless shows a grey background instead
of the pinstripes (I'm in 10.2.8). Is there a library or something that
needs to be included?

Thanks.

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