Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Mark Wieder
All-

Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws up printing, is
there a way to uncolorize a script once the deed has been done?

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All-
 
 Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws
 up printing, is
 there a way to uncolorize a script once the deed has
 been done?
 
 -- 
 -Mark Wieder
 

Hi Mark,

The colorised version is saved in the
'cREVGeneral[script]' property of the object, so you
can remove it using the property inspector if you turn
on showing the 'Revolution UI elements in list'
option.

Hope this helped,

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws up printing,
What do you mean?

Dar

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Re: curious go to behaviour

2004-04-30 Thread Jacques Hausser

Other scripts of this stack use card names in variables (including KF
0) without problems. It's not a question of life and death, but I'm
puzzled...
Thank you for any hint!
This is a wild guess.

Array keys are strings.  The property numberFormat is applied to any
result of arithmetic to make the key.  If you use the default
numberFormat and keys are always the result of arithmetic, then the
keys for numbers will be the same for any two values that are equal
numerically.
However, sometimes in loops the initial value is not the result of
arithmetic.  If it is, say, 00  0 or 0., then there might not be
a match.
This can apply to either the building of arrays or the creation of keys
for later lookup.  You can check in the building of the array by
dumping the keys.
Dar Scott
Thanks, Dar

I checked it. No, in every case all my keys (and bc too) look like 
plain integers. But it could be useful to remember your suggestion in 
other circumstances!

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How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it into a Revolution stack?

2004-04-30 Thread Deena Larsen
Hi
 
I am trying to see if Revolution will transfer a series of hypercard
stacks. These stacks have sounds, which are embedded in the stack.
 
How do I get the sounds out of the Hypercard stack?
 
How do I re-introduce them into the Revolution stack?
 
What is the Revolution stack equivalant of play TomTom? or play
sounds?
 
Thank you
Deena Larsen
http://www.deenalarsen.net
 
 
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Decompress on OSX

2004-04-30 Thread John Rule
Is compress/decompress broken in OSX? I have been using this on a project in
XP, but the 'decompress' function (on OSX 10.2.8) comes to a screaching halt
with an error. I am simply compressing a 32 char text string, and
decompressing it back...works in Windows XP just fine.

JR

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Re: How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it into a Revolution stack?

2004-04-30 Thread Elliot Abrams
I just bought revolution a few days ago, so I am definitely new at
this...but. If you use revolution to open your existing hypercard stack, the
sounds should be there. I accessed the sounds through buttons in hypercard
and most of them worked right away in revolution. Now, I need to get a
routine to dial a phone. My phone is tied into a mixer in my weather
broadcast area, so the tones (from hypercard) go through the mixer and dial
any number I need.

In OSX, I found that I had to use an external drive for the stacks I wanted
to convert because I couldn't read the files if transferred them directly to
my powerbook g4 first.


On 4/27/04 12:18 PM, Deena Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am trying to see if Revolution will transfer a series of hypercard
 stacks. These stacks have sounds, which are embedded in the stack.
 
 How do I get the sounds out of the Hypercard stack?
 
 How do I re-introduce them into the Revolution stack?
 
 What is the Revolution stack equivalant of play TomTom? or play
 sounds?
 
 Thank you
 Deena Larsen
 http://www.deenalarsen.net
 
 
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Re: ANN: CGI tutorial online

2004-04-30 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Apr 27, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
 
  Just as an additional note : apart from using
 stacks
  as libraries, the cgi-engine lets you use the
 database
  and XML libraries like in the IDE, which means you
 can
  get and even update data stored in SQL databases,
 or
  even parse XML-RPC calls if you are interested.
  And all that in our friendly Transcript
 programming
  language.
 
 Don't plan on using the built-in XML routines. Only
 a couple of them 
 work. Most of them are broken in the CGI engine.
 Someone else reported 
 that the database routines are broken, too.
 
 Stick to vanilla transcript and you should be ok.
 Instead of XML, 
 consider arrays.
 
 Jim.
 

Hi Jim,

I guess I was lucky then when I used the xml calls in
my tests -- have you bugzilla'd the list of commands
that don't work ?
Revdb has worked just fine for me ever since I was
told you had to 'revSetDatabaseDriverPath' to the
correct spot before using the revdb calls.

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Re: How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it into a Revolution stack?

2004-04-30 Thread Thomas McGrath III
What ya got against Tom?

Tom

On Apr 27, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Deena Larsen wrote:

Hi

I am trying to see if Revolution will transfer a series of hypercard
stacks. These stacks have sounds, which are embedded in the stack.
How do I get the sounds out of the Hypercard stack?

How do I re-introduce them into the Revolution stack?

What is the Revolution stack equivalant of play TomTom? or play
sounds?
Thank you
Deena Larsen
http://www.deenalarsen.net
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Any COMPLETE database solutions for Rev? ( thanks to all of u)

2004-04-30 Thread JKValdez
I have just begun using Rev. Naturally I have combed through the 
very helpful built-in documentation and HC/MC/RR list archives. I'm 
amazed at the quality of Rev's community support! All of you who 
participate on this  other boards/lists are to be commended, highly 
commended. Thanks to all of you, especially Chip, Dar, Jan, Richard, 
Rob, Sarah, Tuviah,  many others.

As I mentioned, I have read through all the threads on building 
database front end clients. It was easy to script a connection to 
MySQL  perform queries  add other features, too--I thought I was 
well on my way. But I have learned first hand that there's some 
missing pieces (as others on the list have also mentioned).

I think all of the SQL dB posts ultimately are looking for a 
complete Rev solution. So does anyone have a *COMPLETE* IDE for 
making dB apps with Rev (something that resembles perhaps Filemaker 
or Access)? How about any tools or *most importantly* a full 
featured sample stack? Is anyone interested in teaming up on 
delivering this? I am willing to pay for these resources, but I need 
to determine the feasibility of making these front ends in Rev very 
soon, or I need to choose some other technology like Servoy.

Any feedback is most welcome. TIA!

(OT - I'm curious if any of you are using Rev on Suse linux. I'm 
experiencing problems in the IDE where windows  palettes disappear 
 the script editor cannot be evoked. Just curious.)

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Re: Any COMPLETE database solutions for Rev? ( thanks to all of u)

2004-04-30 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 30 avr. 04, à 16:23, JKValdez a écrit :

Any feedback is most welcome. TIA!

(OT - I'm curious if any of you are using Rev on Suse linux. I'm 
experiencing problems in the IDE where windows  palettes disappear  
the script editor cannot be evoked. Just curious.)
Hi JK,

Suse 8.2 Pro x86 servers and dev laptops, KDE 3.1.1 under XFree and 
console-mode sockets driven events, MC 2.5 and Rev 2.1.2, all parts of 
those configs very friendly here :)

Be just carefull about the KDE clipboard / MC / Rev script editors 
incompatibilities. To have the script editors OK, the KDE clipboard, 
and probably, too, the Gnome one, need, imperativelly, to be turned 
off.

Bests,

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Cmd-E to edit script of an object

2004-04-30 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Mac OSX Rev 2.2

Select object with pointer tool, hit cmd-E to edit script. Rev 
unexpectedly quits. This is repeatable, always happens... anyone else 
getting this on the mac? forces one to always go to properties to edit 
the script or use the contextual menu.

Sivakatirswami

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Re: Cmd-E to edit script of an object

2004-04-30 Thread Wouter
Cmd-E to edit script of an object
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami katir at hindu.org
Fri Apr 30 06:15:23 EDT 2004
Mac OSX Rev 2.2

Select object with pointer tool, hit cmd-E to edit script. Rev
unexpectedly quits. This is repeatable, always happens... anyone else
getting this on the mac? forces one to always go to properties to edit
the script or use the contextual menu.
Sivakatirswami


Works perfectly over here.

Greetings,
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Re: Any COMPLETE database solutions for Rev? ( thanks to all of u)

2004-04-30 Thread Rob Cozens
I think all of the SQL dB posts ultimately are looking for a 
complete Rev solution. So does anyone have a *COMPLETE* IDE for 
making dB apps with Rev (something that resembles perhaps Filemaker 
or Access)? How about any tools or *most importantly* a full 
featured sample stack? Is anyone interested in teaming up on 
delivering this? I am willing to pay for these resources, but I need 
to determine the feasibility of making these front ends in Rev very 
soon, or I need to choose some other technology like Servoy.
Hi JK,

And thanks for associating me with such illustrious list members.

[set the promoMode of me to true]

If you don't need 'Q', SDB will do.

If you require an SQL-compatible, relational database, I tend to 
agree that the complete solution is not there yet (but I really don't 
follow the progress: I just note questions  issues raised on the 
list).

If you can get by with a hierarchical database (ie: manually maintain 
any secondary indexes or do without them), Serendipity Library's SDB 
(Serendipity Database--Binary) offers a reasonably complete solution, 
IMF(oole's)O:

*  SDB is 100% native transcript; so it will run on any platform 
Revolution Supports without extensions.

*  SDB includes a Utilities standalone to create, backup,  restore 
database stacks, and to import data to  export data from the 
database.

*  SDB includes an SDB Tools developers' plugin that supplements the 
functionality of the Utilities standalone with a database data 
dictionary editor and a handler to maintain a stack of basic front 
end formats.

*  In addition to support for direct entry  maintenance of data 
dictionary record definitions, the data dictionary editor includes 
menuItems to automate data dictionary creation from the fields on a 
front end card (optionally from the stack of front end formats 
maintained via SDB Tools) and to apply an existing data dictionary 
record definition to the fields of a front end card,  Both menuItems 
will optionally add all handlers needed to support SDB to the front 
end stack  card (with two choices as to the type of UI); so it is 
possible to create a functional database front end with NO scripting.

*  At the present stage of development I need to begin testing 
keyboard filtering frontscripts.  When the SDB keyboard filter is 
functional, all editing specified in the data dictionary will be 
applied to user input on a keystroke-by-keystroke basis, and the 
input will be formatted to conform to dictionary specifications when 
the input field is closed.  Date text will automatically be validated 
 displayed based on the computer's system date format, while being 
stored in Julian date format (ie: the centuryCutoff property becomes 
irrelevant).  Numbers will be edited  displayed based on the user's 
desired characters for currency, thousands separator,  decimal 
separator, and stored in raw (ready for calculation in a Transcript 
handler) numeric format.  Developer-defined data format masks and 
data parsing handlers (within a standalone's script line limit) will 
also be supported.

*  Serendipity Library includes a sample client front end which 
allows the developer to select any db command, see the command syntax 
 optionally modify one or more arguments, run the command, and see 
the raw results.  This same stack also supports an auto test mode 
where a random db command is issued every two seconds and the results 
recorded.

*  SDB, as with all components of Serendipity Library, currently 
converses in Dutch, English, French, German,  Spanish.

*  SDB is open source, and uses the revolution_ipc group's open 
source library, libIPC, for client/server communication; single-user 
 client/server syntax are identical, and front end stacks  
standalones can switch between the two operational modes at runtime.

[set the promoMode of me to false]

At this point I would normally post a URL to 
serendipity_downloader.htm; however I'm in the process of changing 
domains and have nothing currently accessible in cyber space.  So if 
you would like to look more deeply into Serendipity Library  SDB, 
the best I can do for the moment is attach it (about 1 MB for Mac or 
Windows; 3.8 MB tar for 'nixes) to an eMail.  Let me know privately 
if you are interested...include desired platform.
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Re: Decompress on OSX

2004-04-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 06:08 AM, John Rule wrote:

Is compress/decompress broken in OSX? I have been using this on a 
project in
XP, but the 'decompress' function (on OSX 10.2.8) comes to a 
screaching halt
with an error. I am simply compressing a 32 char text string, and
decompressing it back...works in Windows XP just fine.
There was a bug (392) in, uh, I think 2.1 and 2.1.1.  I think it was 
fixed in 2.1.2.

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Re: Any COMPLETE database solutions for Rev? ( thanks to all of u)

2004-04-30 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 30 avr. 04, à 16:23, JKValdez a écrit :

I think all of the SQL dB posts ultimately are looking for a complete 
Rev solution. So does anyone have a *COMPLETE* IDE for making dB apps 
with Rev (something that resembles perhaps Filemaker or Access)? How 
about any tools or *most importantly* a full featured sample stack? Is 
anyone interested in teaming up on delivering this? I am willing to 
pay for these resources, but I need to determine the feasibility of 
making these front ends in Rev very soon, or I need to choose some 
other technology like Servoy.
JK,

I used Rev (and before that Metacard) as my main dev tool to build 
n-tier apps for years (CRM client-side front ends, server-side Web 
and CRM applications servers, binded to PostgreSQL, QTSS and so on, 
back-end servers, client/server managment tools (PostgreSQL pgdumps, 
QTSS movies updating, etc...).

Rev is the perfect tool to set-up, drive and manage those kind of 
tasks, even if other tools, alike Servoy, are doing that too, as 
specialized dedicated tools.

The main reason that pushed me to avoid the use of dedicated tools to 
drive and manage my n-tier apps (including the main J2EE frameworks, 
Servoy and others) has  to do with the fact that Rev let me do in just 
one tool and one langage 95% of what i would have to code in using 
dozen of different frameworks instead.

Each new needed line of code i write in transcript will be reused in 
future apps and tasks for many and many times. If i try to do same in 
using the J2EE paradigm (as an example), i will have to spend 70% of my 
works in technical tasks (coding, frameworks set-up, unary testing, 
etc..) and 30% in about designing my apps to feet the customers 
needs...

In using Rev and Transcript, and, just because the XTalk paradigm key 
features are binded together to give to the apps designer the more 
suitable tools he need to never shut down in only technical 
engineering tasks and troubles and always staying able to see, watch 
and build the apps from a top headed point of view. Because Rev is, in 
the same time, an object-modeled, a message-driven framework and a very 
elegant langage, because Rev is builded on top of a micro-kernel 
engine, bindable in both graphical and console modes to stacks, 
standalones and scripts, this tools is the onest to let us, in using 
Transcript, build drived events commands sent, in client/server mode, 
not to an interpreter, not to a compiler but, just, to the Revolution 
microkernel engine

It's always, in using Rev, a way to build a solution witch will run as 
fast as any C/C++ compiled app does (see benchmarks of the competitions 
what are happening some times on the lists (archives) against tools 
like Pascal, C/C++, RealBasic, Shell driven apps. About comparing the 
Rev engine to the JVM 1.4.2, Rev 2.1.2 is, at least, running 600% 
faster than the JVM in about TCP/IP sockets driven client/server 
solutions (deamons) under the Linux x86 platform. As you right expect, 
it can make a big difference in about all of the environmental 
compartiments the Rev app is interacting with (hardware, databases 
accesses, security including proxying apps, etc...).

One more word : Rev is the best tool i ever seen as able to run my apps 
in test mode, along i'm developping and debugging them. Because its 
native client/server architecture (IDE framework + console-mode 
sockets driven events model + microkernel engine), i can, in the same 
time, have the app (i'm right now coding) play back an rtsp streamed 
movie and the script editor opened to code and debug an updated issue 
of the code witch handle, right now, the movie playback...

Rev let us spend 70% of our working time in designing our apps and, for 
me, the unintersting part of the job is at 0%, just because when we are 
spending the needed 30% of time in writing the code, the pleasure is to 
write the more compact, secure and elegant we can ;)

To the end, Rev is, at least, one of the bests tools, and perhaps the 
best one, that give us the liberty to become, day after day, best apps 
designer's and xtreme programming experts.

Hope this helps

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Mark Wieder
Jan-

Thursday, April 29, 2004, 11:10:44 PM, you wrote:

Thanks, Jan - I'll give that a try.

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar-

Thursday, April 29, 2004, 11:21:10 PM, you wrote:

 Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws up printing,

DS What do you mean?

Text overwrites itself - words colorized in different colors appear at
different places on the same printed line, causing black text to show
up on top of blue and red keywords. The only way I can print scripts
once they've been colorized is to copy them to an external text editor
and print from there. Er... is this just me?

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RevDocs 2.12 Available in HTML

2004-04-30 Thread Robert J Warren
Dear Runrev Colleagues,

If you would like to examine the said revdocs.htm, it is available for
download at http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/

 I can do no better than to quote the e-mail I sent to Kevin yesterday and
his replies:

On 29/4/04 10:08 pm, Robert J Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of the reasons I haven't made more positive progress with RunRev since
I
 first discovered it some years ago is on account of the deficiencies in
the
 documentation. There has been a lot of discussion about this on the List
 recently, and I know you are paying attention to it and making
considerable
 improvements. However, as it stands, people who live in 3rd world
countries
 such as myself find it awfully expensive to buy hard copies of the docs,
 aggravated by the fact that we get punished twice over when we have to pay
 heavy import duties. There is, from my own point of view (and my 3rd world
 partners) a considerable case for the availability of more electronic
 documents for simple download.

 Recently, flexiblelearning.com took the trouble to make a PDF out of a
great
 number of the RunRev 2.12 docs. To me, this was a Godsend, since I can now
 get at the indexed info I need more easily. However, printing out the PDF
is
 quite a job, so what I felt the need for was a version of the docs that
was
 more flexible to navigate without the obligation to print. I therefore
 translated the PDF into HTML format for my own use. The result is far less
 pretty than the PDF, and the HTM file is far less suitable for printing.
But
 the advantage is that I can easily hop about between the items in the
index
 and the pages they point to.

 It occurs to me that some of my Runrev user colleagues might also find
this
 HTML file of use. However, the last thing I want to be accused of is
 undercutting your sales in any way. The documentation is not mine, it is
 yours, and only you can decide about what you think is the most
appropriate
 policy in relation to the types and availability of it. I would not dream
of
 making the HTML document available to other users unless you give the
 go-ahead.

 If you would like to examine the said revdocs.htm, it is available for
 download at http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/

Hi Bob,

Thanks for this!  We're continuing to make changes to the documentation and
expect to make a number of significant improvements in the next release.

All the best,

Kevin

On 29/4/04 10:08 pm, Robert J Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would not dream of making the HTML document available to other users
unless
 you give the go-ahead.

We don't mind if you make this available.

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws up printing,
DS What do you mean?

Text overwrites itself - words colorized in different colors appear at
different places on the same printed line, causing black text to show
up on top of blue and red keywords. The only way I can print scripts
once they've been colorized is to copy them to an external text editor
and print from there. Er... is this just me?
Maybe.

When I print to pdf they look OK.  (Well, as OK as colorizing on the 
screen.)

My OS X and my HP printer have had a falling out, so I'm not sure about 
actual printing.

Dar Scott

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Re: Colorize

2004-04-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Mark,

See my altClean plugin at:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginDownload/Downloads.htm
It should do what you want.

best,

Chipp

Jan Schenkel wrote:

--- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All-

Since colorizing scripts in the Script Editor screws
up printing, is
there a way to uncolorize a script once the deed has
been done?
--
-Mark Wieder


Hi Mark,

The colorised version is saved in the
'cREVGeneral[script]' property of the object, so you
can remove it using the property inspector if you turn
on showing the 'Revolution UI elements in list'
option.
Hope this helped,

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index of Transcript Language Reference Manual

2004-04-30 Thread moe2

hi

can someone email me a text file of the INDEX from the Transcript Language
Reference Manual

i have purchase a hardcopy of the manuals to learn RR. i would like to sort
the index into commands, functions, keywords etc (which i will easily do in
HC) so that i can more easily find what i am looking for ... without having
to type the 14 pages :-(
for example i am trying to find out how to send an email within a
standalone, and just looking at commands would be much simpler

thank you in advance for your help

moe

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Programming contest

2004-04-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
This sounds like something one of us (or a group of us) here might want 
to do:

http://www.cis.upenn.edu/proj/plclub/contest/

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Re: Programming contest

2004-04-30 Thread David Kwinter
So long as the tasks don't involve compatibility issues, or are judged 
solely on speed, Revolution could do well. I'd help a team for sure, 
sounds like fun.

On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 07:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

This sounds like something one of us (or a group of us) here might 
want to do:

http://www.cis.upenn.edu/proj/plclub/contest/

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Re: Programming contest

2004-04-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/30/04 9:07 PM, David Kwinter wrote:

So long as the tasks don't involve compatibility issues, or are judged 
solely on speed, Revolution could do well. I'd help a team for sure, 
sounds like fun.
There are descriptions of previous contests in the History section of 
the web site if you want an idea of what to expect. All entries are 
submitted as text files. Here is last year's contest:

http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/task.html

This required you to drive a simulated car around some simulated test 
tracks. The submission itself is a text dump of the commands given to 
the car. They then ran the trace through their own simulator, which 
reads the contents of the submitted entry. They do want to see the code, 
but they don't care what language it is in and the quality of the code 
does not affect who wins; the success of the code does.

This year's contest will be similar in that the entry will consist of a 
text file that solves whatever task they post. In last year's contest 
speed did count, but only because the goal was to make the car move as 
fast as possible. The speed would be due to the quality of the commands 
rather than the state of any particular computer.

There's more stuff in the History section. MIT started the contest some 
years ago. It looks like they've done a nice job eliminating things that 
are computer and language dependent, and focusing on the programming 
rather than the execution.




On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 07:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

This sounds like something one of us (or a group of us) here might 
want to do:

http://www.cis.upenn.edu/proj/plclub/contest/

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Re: How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it into a Revolution stack?

2004-04-30 Thread Ken Norris
Hello Deena,

 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:18:25 -0600
 From: Deena Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it
 into a Revolution stack?
 
 Hi
 
 I am trying to see if Revolution will transfer a series of hypercard
 stacks. These stacks have sounds, which are embedded in the stack.
---
HC sounds are stored in the Resource Fork of the stack. Rev does not use or
(generally, i.e., without an external) access the Resource Fork because it
is crossplatform and PC's have no such animal.
---
 How do I get the sounds out of the Hypercard stack?
---
You should be able to extract them with ResEdit or QT Pro, and translate
them to .aif, .wav, or .MP3 files.
---
 How do I re-introduce them into the Revolution stack?
---
File menu - Import As Control - Audio File...

...embeds it, but you can also reference it. If you have a lot of sounds,
referencing instead of embedding will save stack file memory.
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 What is the Revolution stack equivalant of play TomTom? or play
 sounds?
---
play audioClip TomTom

HTH,
Ken N.

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Help! / Moron Alert

2004-04-30 Thread Judy Perry
Hi,

I just managed to do a really stupid thing:  Not noticing where I was
typing -- or really thinking for that matter -- in the message box I typed
hide me or some such thing (I know... sigh...).

How do I get it back??

Please?

Judy


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Re: Help! / Moron Alert

2004-04-30 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/30/04 10:34 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

Hi,

I just managed to do a really stupid thing:  Not noticing where I was
typing -- or really thinking for that matter -- in the message box I typed
hide me or some such thing (I know... sigh...).
How do I get it back??

Please?
Relaunch Rev.

Alternately, make a stack with a button. In the script of the button:

on mouseup
 show stack message box
end mouseUp
Don't worry, you still don't get the prize for dumbest thing ever done.

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Re: Programming contest [Rev Physics masters]

2004-04-30 Thread David Kwinter
So who's our physics master? I have experience backtesting  optimizing 
systems once I've programmed them - but defining the environment 
following their specs looks extremely challenging.

I'm quite sure that how you manage a brute force backtest of the race 
track problem can produce best results when designed just right. That 
said I would've been lost on the first 90% of the problem.

So who here could've nailed down the 2003 problem?  
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/Rotmos/problem.pdf



On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 09:12 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 4/30/04 9:07 PM, David Kwinter wrote:

So long as the tasks don't involve compatibility issues, or are 
judged solely on speed, Revolution could do well. I'd help a team for 
sure, sounds like fun.
There are descriptions of previous contests in the History section of 
the web site if you want an idea of what to expect. All entries are 
submitted as text files. Here is last year's contest:

http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/task.html

This required you to drive a simulated car around some simulated test 
tracks. The submission itself is a text dump of the commands given to 
the car. They then ran the trace through their own simulator, which 
reads the contents of the submitted entry. They do want to see the 
code, but they don't care what language it is in and the quality of 
the code does not affect who wins; the success of the code does.

This year's contest will be similar in that the entry will consist of 
a text file that solves whatever task they post. In last year's 
contest speed did count, but only because the goal was to make the car 
move as fast as possible. The speed would be due to the quality of the 
commands rather than the state of any particular computer.

There's more stuff in the History section. MIT started the contest 
some years ago. It looks like they've done a nice job eliminating 
things that are computer and language dependent, and focusing on the 
programming rather than the execution.


On Friday, April 30, 2004, at 07:44 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
This sounds like something one of us (or a group of us) here might 
want to do:

http://www.cis.upenn.edu/proj/plclub/contest/

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How do I extract the sounds from a HyperCard stack and put it intoa Revolution stack?

2004-04-30 Thread j.derrien
Hi Deena,
There are applications such as Ultra Recorder that enable you to
extract sounds from HyperCard Stacks and convert them into the format
you like (.au, for instance) You can then import them into your Rev
stack through the 'Import as control submenu.
Regards,
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