RE: standalone puzzler

2004-05-10 Thread Monte Goulding

Hi Byron


I have a project that I'm trying to build.  Every time, I get the same
message, There was an error while saving the standalone.  When I
click on debug, it takes me to card id 1002 of stack revErrorDisplay.
  I get the same message on 2 different machines, regardless of where I
try to build, but it only happens with this particular stack.  I have
successfully built 6 other projects in the past 2 weeks.  Yet this
stack can be built on someone else's computer.  I'm using MacOS X
10.3.3 but it has failed on earlier versions as well.  I've recently
reinstalled the OS and repaired permissions.  Any ideas here?  This
thing is supposed to be manufactured and shipped to a conference that
begins in 15 days.

There are a couple of issus I've fixed since the release of 2.2 that could
be causing this. They are both related to the search for inclusions feature
so could if you are trying to build with that on then try the manual
inclusion selection method. If not then please send me the stack off list so
I can find the issue.

FYI the issues found have been related to trying to search the scripts of a
password protected stack and objects with numbers for names.

Cheers

Monte

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Re: Creating bulletin boards, chat rooms...

2004-05-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i've been slowly working away on a multi-user bbs system using rev.. the 
first few test versions worked, but there was still a lot of work to do 
on it, and lately i have been working more on it.. it's all built in 
modules, so pieces can be easily updated, switched out, etc without 
having to redownload the whole program.. when there's something more 
stable and usuable, i'll post..

-Sean


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answer file (multiple)?

2004-05-10 Thread Kevin


Is there a property I can set so that answer file will allow the user to select 
multiple files? If not is there another common dialog for this? 

K

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Re: Tutorial explanation object lib for creating a multiplatform splitter?

2004-05-10 Thread Kevin


My definition follows a more windows slighted definition.  When one uses the file 
explorer the right border of the folder listed tree control is a splitter it splits 
and allows resizeing of the folder listing.

K


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them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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From: Jan Schenkel [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 00:58:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Tutorial explanation object lib  for creating a multiplatform splitter?

--- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:br br br I have searched the archives but 
have not found anybr information on creating a multi-platform splitterbr (or any 
splitter for that matter).Might anyonebr know where I can find such a example 
or tutorial? br br Kbr brbrHi Kevin,brbrAt the risk of sounding 
stupid : what exactly is yourbrdefinition of a splitter ? Maybe you didn't 
findbranything in the archives because people on here callbrit something 
else.brMy first guess would be that you want something likebrin Apple's Software 
Update : an area between the topbrlist and the bottom 'Information' field that 
displaysbrinformation regarding the selected update.brIf that's what you're 
looking for, you can disect thebrscript of the splitter in the 'Custom 
Properties'brpanel of the Revolution IDE 'Properties' palette.brIf you're looking 
for something else, don't hesitatebrto poke me.brbrHope this helped,brbrJan 
Schen
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Can I alter the frame rate of an animated GIF by script?

2004-05-10 Thread Graham Samuel
Folks, I'm struggling with animated GIFs again - they can behave strangely 
in earlier versions of Windows (like ME); and even with Windos XP, 
sometimes starting one animation (showing in a button with the GIF as an 
icon) can stop an animation already running in another button... anyway I'm 
trying all sorts of workarounds to these problems, and it occurs to me that 
I could reduce the number of animated GIFs in my app (which might be a 
cause of these difficulties) if I could change the frame rate of an 
animated GIF on the fly. So far I haven't found anything in the 
documentation about this: can anyone say if it's possible and if so, how to 
do it?

TIA

Graham

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Re: Can I alter the frame rate of an animated GIF by script?

2004-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Graham Samuel  wrote:

 I could reduce the number of animated GIFs in my app (which might be a
 cause of these difficulties) if I could change the frame rate of an
 animated GIF on the fly. So far I haven't found anything in the
 documentation about this: can anyone say if it's possible and if so, how to
 do it?

You can't change the frameRate but you don't need to rely on it either.  Set
the repeatCount of your GIF to 0 and increment the currentFrame via script.

[example card script]
 on playGIF
   get the currentFrame of img myGIF
   if it  the frameCount of img myGIF then
 put it+1 into F
   else put 1 into F
   set the currentFrame of img myGIF to F
   send playGIF to me in 100 milliseconds #10 FPS
 end playGIF

See the list archives for more on this technique.  A scripted solution gives
you much greater control over GIF playback than the built-in timing in
animated GIFs.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
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Re: Creating bulletin boards, chat rooms...

2004-05-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sun, 9 May 2004
Richard K. Herz wrote:

 My second version of a Rev chat/message board uses
 multiple socket
 connections to a single Rev engine/server stack
 instance. 

Very interesting!!!

How many simultaneous users could it handle? 
50 users? 100 users?

It's in a dedicated server? It's in Linux or BSD?

 The first client
 connecting, when it finds it can't establish a
 socket, sends a cgi post to
 the server which starts the Rev engine/server stack
 which then starts
 accepting sockets.  The server stack shuts down when
 there is no activity.

 When a client first connects, the Rev server stack
 sends it a portion of the
 log file.  When a client sends a message, the server
 stack appends it the
 the log file, broadcasts it to all connected
 clients, and also broadcasts a
 separate status message with the number of current
 connections for display
 at the client stacks.

Do you plan to expand his functionality?

 My first version worked well but my web host shut it
 down.  It relied solely
 on individual cgi posts for all communications (hey,
 I'm an amateur at this)
 and my web host said all the Rev engine instances
 starting up was too big a
 load on the shared web server.

Do you have plans to make it available 
to other developers at some point?

I'm curious to know what's the limit of simultaneous
connection that some types of servers can handle.

Thanks a lot for your response!

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Re: Data Protection

2004-05-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sun, 9 May 2004 
Pierre Sahores wrote in response to Alejandro Tejada:

  Pierre, you work in the Linux platform, where
  these kind of memory dump tools are common.

 100% true ! It's why is it's always a very bad idea
 to use only one 
 scheme to protect a program against unauthorised
 use, copy, 
 duplication, etc...

I've tried unsuccefully to make a stack to run
only in a single machine. When opened, it checks the
hard disk serial number and the MAC address of the 
machine where it was installed and compare it with 
same data from the machine where it's running.
These handlers are from the Ken's Ray website.

I have put this handler in a preopenstack that must 
answer Stack not authorized to run in this machine! 
with OK, Quit now. But, i'm not getting the answer 
dialog when opening the stack...

Any help to make this simple protection scheme 
workable is welcome. 

  Could you make a small test with a password
  protected
  stack and another unprotected, in the next
  weekend?

 Unneeded, as long as we are ok with the fact that we
 need to use a 
 multiple encryptation states and protocols method to
 set-up a real 
 difficult to crack protection scheme. Even the DES
 or RSA ways with 
 nothing more would be like travelling over the seas
 in a Zepplin just 
 token out from its museum... This kind of fly would,
 probably, in many 
 cases, become very dangerous and not only under the
 windows platform ;)

So, DES and RSA alone are not safe anymore?
With so many brains working toward a goal
this is comprensible. 

Does exist an internet site that keeps records 
of the time taken to take down different hardware
or software protection schemes?

I remember that an Israeli institute was accused
of breaking and distributing the code of a competitor.
It was something related to cable or satellite
signals.

 Mainly, the method had to do with splitting the app
 in two parts
[snip]

Interesting explanation!
Have you implemented something more secure
than this scheme?

Thanks again for your insights!

 Do you have any web
 docs entry points 
 to share about streaming QT/MP4 contents in a one
 to many sheme, 
 runnable in IPV4, without having to send a different
 stream to each 
 conected user, something like binding the IPV6
 broadcast address witch 
 could work in IPV4 mode ?... IPV6 is so great, as
 dream ;)

In the internet, there is an interesting project
named : PeerCast.

http://www.peercast.org/

Until now, i've used only Real Audio to stream music.
Later this year, i'll experiment with Flash movies.

Keep Up your good work, Pierre. :-)

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Re: Can I alter the frame rate of an animated GIF by script?

2004-05-10 Thread Malte Brill
Hi,

Graham Samuel wrote:

Folks, I'm struggling with animated GIFs again - they can behave strangely
in earlier versions of Windows (like ME); and even with Windos XP,
sometimes starting one animation (showing in a button with the GIF as an
icon) can stop an animation already running in another button... anyway I'm
trying all sorts of workarounds to these problems,
Is the .gif on another card? I have experienced problems when the -gif was
not on the same card.

and it occurs to me that
I could reduce the number of animated GIFs in my app (which might be a
cause of these difficulties) if I could change the frame rate of an
animated GIF on the fly. So far I haven't found anything in the
documentation about this: can anyone say if it's possible and if so, how to
do it?

I have been playing with creating .png animations. You could use a button
with different .png (or gif if you wish) images. Set the icon of the button
with a handler that calls itself in a period of time (send animateMe to me
in ... milliseconds.) I use .png instead of gifs, because they display
smoother than gifs (there might be a pixely border around the gif. this
technique allows very flexible animations.
It´s more work than using an animated gif, but much more flexible...

Best,

Malte 

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Re: Tutorial explanation object lib for creating a multiplatform splitter?

2004-05-10 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 My definition follows a more windows slighted
 definition.  When one uses the file explorer the
 right border of the folder listed tree control is a
 splitter it splits and allows resizeing of the
 folder listing.
 
 K
 

Hi Kevin,

It looks like we're actually talking about the same
thing -- the only difference being the example I gave
was horizontal, and yours is vertical.
So when you look at the code in the horizontal
splitter, all you need to take into account is that
it's in the other direction.
In its most basic form, here's the code for a vertical
splitter button between two fields.

--

local sTrackingFlag, sMinLeft, sMaxRight

on mouseDown
  -- flip the tracking switch
  put true into sTrackingFlag
  -- and save the boundaries
  put the width of me DIV 2 into tMargin
  put the left of field LeftField + 16 + tMargin \
  into sMinLeft
  put the right of field RightField - 16 - tMargin \
  into sMaxRight
  -- and calculate my margin
end mouseDown

on mouseMove x,y
  if sTrackingFlag is true then
-- first move this button within boundaries
put min(sMaxRight,max(sMinLeft,x)) into tX
put the location of me into tLocation
put tX into item 1 of tLocation
set the location of me to tLocation
-- then update the field on the left hand side
put the rect of field LeftField into tRect
put the left of me into item 3 of tRect
set the rect of field LeftField to tRect
-- then update the field on the right hand side
put the rect of field RightField into tRect
put the right of me into item 1 of tRect
set the rect of field RightField to tRect
  end if
end mouseMove

on mouseUp
  put false into sTrackingFlag
end mouseUp

on mouseRelease
  put false into sTrackingFlag
end mouseRelease

--

Hope this helped,

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Re: Tutorial explanation object lib for creating a multiplatform splitter?

2004-05-10 Thread Kevin


This object is in the Object Library? 

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From: Jan Schenkel [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Tutorial explanation object lib  for creating a multiplatform splitter?

--- Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:br br br My definition follows a more 
windows slightedbr definition.  When one uses the file explorer thebr right 
border of the folder listed tree control is abr splitter it splits and allows 
resizeing of thebr folder listing.br br Kbr brbrHi Kevin,brbrIt 
looks like we're actually talking about the samebrthing -- the only difference being 
the example I gavebrwas horizontal, and yours is vertical.brSo when you look at 
the code in the horizontalbrsplitter, all you need to take into account is 
thatbrit's in the other direction.brIn its most basic form, here's the code for a 
verticalbrsplitter button between two fields.brbr--brbrlocal sTrackingFlag, 
sMinLeft, sMaxRightbrbron mouseDownbr  -- flip the tracking switchbr  put true 
into sTrackingFlagbr  -- and save the boundariesbr  put the width of me DIV 2 into 
tMarginbr  put the left of field LeftField + 16 + tMargin \
 br  into sMinLeftbr  put the right of field RightField - 16 - tMargin \br  
into sMaxRightbr  -- and calculate my marginbrend mouseDownbrbron 
mouseMove x,ybr  if sTrackingFlag is true thenbr-- first move this button 
within boundariesbrput min(sMaxRight,max(sMinLeft,x)) into tXbrput the 
location of me into tLocationbrput tX into item 1 of tLocationbrset the 
location of me to tLocationbr-- then update the field on the left hand sidebr  
  put the rect of field LeftField into tRectbrput the left of me into item 3 
of tRectbrset the rect of field LeftField to tRectbr-- then update the 
field on the right hand sidebrput the rect of field RightField into tRectbr  
  put the right of me into item 1 of tRectbrset the rect of field RightField 
to tRectbr  end ifbrend mouseMovebrbron mouseUpbr  put false into 
sTrackingFlagbrend mouseUpbrbron mouseReleasebr  put false into
  sTrackingFlagbrend mouseReleasebrbr--brbrHope this helped,brbrJan 
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Re: Creating bulletin boards, chat rooms, and mail messages wiht RR/MC and CGI

2004-05-10 Thread Brent Anderson
Hello.

I haven't exactly tried out the BB's or mail with this, but I am 
experimenting with a way to do chatting. It would require a dedicated 
server for more than two people, but is fine for this project that I'm 
working on (why screen resolution is such an issue...). You would have 
one field with the screen names, and one with the addresses (note: this 
would only work on a mac network til I can work out a few things). 
Then, when a new message was sent out, it would be sent to the server, 
placed into the servers session field, and then would go down the list 
of addresses and forward that message to everybody in the addresses 
list.

There's my bit on that.

Thanks,
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Re: Bezier curves

2004-05-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Mon, 10 May 2004
Jim Hurley wrote:

 I think your suggestion of using a back script is
 surely the right 
 way to go. One might store all the scripts used in
 common in the 
 first  bezier group, and then pass the owner of the
 various controls 
 to these back scripts as a parameter.

I really miss to have more time for testing these
ideas further! :-((

 As I have said before, the thing I miss most from
 SuperCard was the 
 ability to cut and paste graphics generated in Super
 Card into Free 
 Hand (or Illustrator.) I think RR is working on
 this.

We have the SVG export stack made by Richard Gaskin.

 Look for yourself in this file:

http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Graphic_Tools_v01beta.zip
 
 I couldn't get this stack to work for me. I kept
 getting error 
 messages--object not found. Maybe it is a Meta Card
 thing. Or, more 
 likely, the way I am using it.
 
 Pity. This is an intriguing stack!!!

Thanks for reporting this problem.
Could you send me a screenshot of the 
error message?

I'll strip all the other code of the stack and 
send you a smaller version.

Thanks again for your report! 

Keep Up your good work!

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Re: Tutorial explanation object lib for creating a multiplatform splitter?

2004-05-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Kevin-

Or take a look at Chipp Walters' Geometry Manager tutorial where he
goes step-by-step through the process of building a splitter control.

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Re: Can I alter the frame rate of an animated GIF by script?

2004-05-10 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Mon, 10 May 2004
Graham Samuel wrote:

 Folks, I'm struggling with animated GIFs again - 
 they can behave strangely in earlier versions of 
 Windows (like ME); and even with Windos XP, 
 sometimes starting one animation (showing in a 
 button with the GIF as an icon) can stop an 
 animation already running in another button... 

Hi Graham,

Look at this approach to show animation in
your stack:

http://geocities.yahoo.com/capellan2000/Vector_Animation.gz

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/028707.html

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/028759.html

Abraham Wouter created a professional example of
a filmstrip player. You could write him for a copy.
I think that the name of the file that he sent me is
MetamoviePlayer.

Notice, Graham, this is one of the best way to have
animated png or vector graphics in your stack!

The animated png format is mng, but it's still a
work in progress.

Scott Rossi created this walking animation example, 
some time ago: 

http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-November/025499.html

Good luck and keep us informed of your advances
in this area.

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Look'N'Feel in XP?

2004-05-10 Thread Judy Perry
Hi,

I am creating a handout for masters candidates in Reading to use to create
a simple Rev stack.  They would be doing it on a PC, which I don't own, so
I'm doing it in Virtual PC with XP installed to create screenshots for the
handout.

When I try to change the look'n'feel to anything other than XP, it
doesn't.  Is this normal behavior?  It's not really critically important
as this won't be a part of the hands-on exercise, but as I made it a point
to demonstrate the ability to them in the tour stack I am wondering how
to answer the question should it come up during the hands-on session.

Thanks!

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Re: Creating bulletin boards, chat rooms, and mail messages wihtRR/MC and CGI

2004-05-10 Thread Doug Lerner
My suggestion is to just use Web Crossing - http://webcrossing.com.

Yes, I speak as someone who works for Web Crossing, so I am not an unbiased
observer.

But there are incredibly low-cost Web Crossing solutions that make it
worthwhile to consider, rather than reinventing the wheel.

Plus WebX (Web Crossing) works great with Revolution, and is just as
cross-platform. I even have an alpha version of an IM/Whiteboard working
with a Revolution client and Web Crossing server as the backend. You can
read about that project at http://webxedu.com/WebXClient/.

The nice thing is you start with the following completely free, all built-in
to Web Crossing - including a native, object-oriented database and
integrated user directory:

* web server
* ftp server
* SMTP/POP3/IMAP server
* themes
* scalable chat/live events server built in!
* news server
* xml-rpc support
* server-side scripting
* distributed and mirrored serving for large-scaling

and then you can add in whatever bulletin board, blog, polls, classrooms,
wiki, neuron (multimedia shared databases), etc., that you want to the
system.

It's perfect for Revolution-based clients.

doug



On 5/11/04 7:54 AM, Brent Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I haven't exactly tried out the BB's or mail with this, but I am
 experimenting with a way to do chatting. It would require a dedicated
 server for more than two people, but is fine for this project that I'm
 working on (why screen resolution is such an issue...). You would have
 one field with the screen names, and one with the addresses (note: this
 would only work on a mac network til I can work out a few things).
 Then, when a new message was sent out, it would be sent to the server,
 placed into the servers session field, and then would go down the list
 of addresses and forward that message to everybody in the addresses
 list.
 
 There's my bit on that.
 
 
 Thanks,
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go without focus

2004-05-10 Thread Kevin


I wish to display a Log stack if it is not visiable/message it received.  However, I 
do not want it to steal focus.  What parameters do I use with go to goto a stack 
without it altering focus? 


K


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Any resemblance between the above views and those of my
employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely
coincidental. 
Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic.

 The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold
them
is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of
the reader
 is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. 
(A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the
scope of this article.)



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standalone puzzler

2004-05-10 Thread Byron Turner
I have a project that I'm trying to build.  Every time, I get the same 
message, There was an error while saving the standalone.  When I 
click on debug, it takes me to card id 1002 of stack revErrorDisplay. 
 I get the same message on 2 different machines, regardless of where I 
try to build, but it only happens with this particular stack.  I have 
successfully built 6 other projects in the past 2 weeks.  Yet this 
stack can be built on someone else's computer.  I'm using MacOS X 
10.3.3 but it has failed on earlier versions as well.  I've recently 
reinstalled the OS and repaired permissions.  Any ideas here?  This 
thing is supposed to be manufactured and shipped to a conference that 
begins in 15 days.

Byron Turner

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Re: Delete audioClip

2004-05-10 Thread Marian Petrides
right click is not something I would normally consider.

 Glad I could help--took me a while to figure it out myself since I'm 
primarily a Mac person.  Guess I stumbled upon it sometime when I had a 
multi-button mouse plugged into the Mac.

M

On May 10, 2004, at 12:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Marian:

Many thanks for the information.  I guess I have been using a
single button mouse almost exclusively and right click is not
something I would normally consider.
I agree with the concept of including sound files in the stack and I
will look at comparing wav to aif files.
Jim Wall

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Re: Saving a Movie

2004-05-10 Thread Howard Bornstein
On May 10, 2004, at 12:54 AM, Derek Bump wrote:

Is there any way to save a movie within Rev?  Ex:  I've entered a web 
site
into the player, and now it's downloaded.  Can I save the player's 
movie to
the desktop?
If the URL is for the movie itself, you can save the movie in 
Transcript like this:

put URL theaddress into URL thedestination

where theaddress is the web URL for the movie and thedestination is a 
folder path on your hard disk.

Regards,

Howard Bornstein
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