ANN: New tool for RunRev development

2004-11-01 Thread xbury . cs
Hi Everyone,

http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=69 

In light of making a super-prop editor that simplifies, centralizes
and eventually automates both editing of props, content, script, etc
I've been revamping the old MetaCard ControlBrowser. 

Some of you have seen the Metacard version (in the metacard download 
section of MonsieurX.com) but this is a brand new version with RunRev 
only options (ie, GM)...

This is a work in progress and some features still are not ready 
(themes, some control type previews, etc...). Im not even sure the
props are set properly yet, so please do not use on a stack without
a backup.

I haven't had the time to test all the features myself! ;))

Hope you like it! Paypal encouragements and feature requests are welcome!

Yes the stack will be opensource and work in conjunction with XOS.

If anyone manages to make the command
  go stack url
"http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=69";
work, please let me know ;)

Regards,
Xavier

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Re: OS X Externals

2004-11-01 Thread Brian Yennie
FWIW, binary values can be passed in externals using the MCString 
structure and the GetXVariable / SetXVariable callbacks- there is an 
example in the SDK albeit non-obvious.

You mentioned problems with binary data especially from images on Mac- 
any chance you haven't accounted for imageData coming in opposite order 
on Mac versus Windows (i.e. red-green-blue versus blue-green-red). Just 
a shot in the dark...

- Brian
with a wrapper written in Transcript which basically dumps the arg 
into a variable, which in turn is read by the external; the code is 
posted as part of the bugzilla report (#2308)

On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
I have heard rumors of a method for passing binary data as an arg, 
but I don't know how it works.

My external SDK says data is a null terminated string.  That means no 
binary.  (Without some method to avoid nulls.)

How are you passing binary as an arg?
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Re: Dialog Box Tutorial

2004-11-01 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 1, 2004, at 11:46 PM, Ralph R. Forehand wrote:
Anyone know of a good tutorial on mixed objects Dialog Boxes?
Or have a good example Dialog Box that includes check boxes and text 
(See attached .jpg) input?

Thanks in Advance for any help.
Ralph,
take notice of the modal command using your documentation stack. And 
since, as I think I remember, you're on MacOS X, fiddle with modal ... 
as sheet command, it's pretty cool! remember to create a button to 
close your dialog (modal window) or you'll be locked.

cheers
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Dialog Box Tutorial

2004-11-01 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Anyone know of a good tutorial on mixed objects Dialog Boxes? 

Or have a good example Dialog Box that includes check boxes and text (See attached 
.jpg) input?

Thanks in Advance for any help.

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Re: wait with messages revisited.

2004-11-01 Thread Dar Scott
On Nov 1, 2004, at 9:24 AM, K wrote:
   if gblA is true then return true
Are you actually doing this?
Or this?
if gblA then exit repeat
Dar

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Running Revolution in 'other' accounts...

2004-11-01 Thread Phillip Thomas
Hi,

I am part of a team of students who run a computing laboratory on the
University of Chicago campus. Recently, when we updated RunRev to 2.5
we have been hit with an interesting error:

Simply, put: only the user who installed RunRev is able to use it

Specifically:  If you examine the "package contents" in MacOS X
finder, you'll find the subdirectories of Revolution.app ... relevant
one's are Contents/MacOS/  which contains the app's loading program
Revolution   Here in lies the problem: when loading this from the
user who installed it, there are no errors (note: the file must be
executed from the App directory that contains Revolution.app...like
/Applications/Revolution\ 2.5  executing:
./Revolution.app/Contents/MacOS/Revolution)

However, when running from another user account (whether admin or
limited, it just simply need be not the user who installed
Revolution), there are errors when attempting to load disk fragments
of the library files containing bundled source for revdb.bundle,
revvideograbber.bundle, and revspeech.bundle, all of which can be
found in components/global\ environment/ under the application
directory...

The errors returned are code -2851 and I can find nothing concerning
this error code...it is possible that this referrence is a mistake and
meant as code -2815, which is a cyclic error (infite loop, i
presume)

Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Phillip Thomas
Maclab Tutor
University of Chicago

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Re: image size limit?

2004-11-01 Thread Brian Yennie
Richard, et al,
Could you possibly use a command-line tool on OS X? Won't help you 
display entire full resolution larger images, but it may cover 
thumbnails, cropping, etc...

http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/doc/
HTH,
Brian
Because it's too big to open in Revolution on a Macintosh. There's a 
limit on image sizes.

regards,
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On Oct 31, 2004, at 7:17 AM, MisterX wrote:
Why not import the image, resize it, and then take a snapshot?
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Re: OS X Externals

2004-11-01 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
with a wrapper written in Transcript which basically dumps the arg into 
a variable, which in turn is read by the external; the code is posted 
as part of the bugzilla report (#2308)

On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
I have heard rumors of a method for passing binary data as an arg, but 
I don't know how it works.

My external SDK says data is a null terminated string.  That means no 
binary.  (Without some method to avoid nulls.)

How are you passing binary as an arg?
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$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
$


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Re: OS X Externals

2004-11-01 Thread Dar Scott
On Nov 1, 2004, at 11:34 AM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote:
Thank you everyone who looked at this for me, I finally convinced 
myself that this is a bug in Rev and filed it in Bugzilla (#2308).

I did manage to build by external under Windows, but have not tested 
the faulty routine there yet.  I suspect (from the below report) that 
it is a Mac-specific bug, so until Rev gets this fixed, I will just 
have to use the slow Transcript version, at least for the Mac.  I will 
test under Windows later, and if the external works there, I'll attach 
a note to the bug report that it is OS X specific and then use the 
external for Windows at least, both when it is fixed.
I have heard rumors of a method for passing binary data as an arg, but 
I don't know how it works.

My external SDK says data is a null terminated string.  That means no 
binary.  (Without some method to avoid nulls.)

How are you passing binary as an arg?
Dar

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Re: Scripter's Scrapbook

2004-11-01 Thread FlexibleLearning
Hugh Senior wrote;
>You may find the Scripter's Scrapbook of interest, not only as a means of seeing some 
>samples but more for accumulating and co-ordinating your own code segments, scripts, 
>documents, links and support information:
>
>http://www.flexibleLearning.com/xtalk.htm
>

>Hugh,
>
>Thank You Very Much for the heads-Up and URL. :-))
>
>Yes, the Scripter's Scrapbook is very much of interest and an excellent tool. I am 
>particularly impressed with it's built-in features. I've downloaded it and most 
>certainly will use it!


Ralph,

Pleased you will find it useful. You will love the next release!

Reminder to existing Scripter's Scrapbook users...
Version 4.01 is available for you to upgrade using the version checker built into your 
Scrapbook (see under the HELP menu). Anyone still on the v3 series should get their 
upgrade.

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Re: OS X Externals

2004-11-01 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Thank you everyone who looked at this for me, I finally convinced 
myself that this is a bug in Rev and filed it in Bugzilla (#2308).

I did manage to build by external under Windows, but have not tested 
the faulty routine there yet.  I suspect (from the below report) that 
it is a Mac-specific bug, so until Rev gets this fixed, I will just 
have to use the slow Transcript version, at least for the Mac.  I will 
test under Windows later, and if the external works there, I'll attach 
a note to the bug report that it is OS X specific and then use the 
external for Windows at least, both when it is fixed.

On Oct 18, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Frank-
Monday, October 18, 2004, 4:16:06 PM, you wrote:
FDEJ> Note that passing simple text strings into either function 
yields the
FDEJ> same results, it is only when I use binary data, such as an 
image, that
FDEJ> I am seeing the problem.

!!! Are you sure you're passing the same data to each routine? I get
the same results from the transcript code and the external even when I
use the imageData of an image.
FDEJ> Are you also using OS X, or are you working on another platform? 
 I
FDEJ> wonder if it is a Mac or OS X platform-specific thing, but I 
haven't
FDEJ> been able to compile under Windows yet, so I can't confirm this.

Well, admittedly I did the quick test in Win2k (I can hear Chipp
laughing at me even now) - I'll try to give it a test under OSX
tomorrow if I get a chance.
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$ true | cat /usr/manual | grep "John 3:16"
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten 
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have 
everlasting life.
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Re: Valentina and RR 2.5 - Timeouts

2004-11-01 Thread Gordon Tillman
Thanks Chris!
On Nov 1, 2004, at 12:23, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Yes, I'm using Valentina with Rev 2.5 just fine.  This is an obvious
suggestion, but I would start with double-checking the revOpenDatabase
function parameters, and make sure you have them all in the right 
order and
have the correct number of parameters.
This is promising!  I will double-check that stuff.  I had assumed they 
were correct since I could open and close the database connection, 
etc., and haven't been getting any errors, except for the little 
timeout thing! :-)

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RE: Valentina and RR 2.5 - Timeouts

2004-11-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
Yes, I'm using Valentina with Rev 2.5 just fine.  This is an obvious
suggestion, but I would start with double-checking the revOpenDatabase
function parameters, and make sure you have them all in the right order and
have the correct number of parameters.

Chris Sheffield
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Subject: Valentina and RR 2.5 - Timeouts

Howdy Folks,

A question for anyone using RR 2.5 and Valentina

I have a simple test stack that uses the following functions to 
communicate with Valentina:

revOpenDatabase
revDataFromQuery
revExecuteSQL
revCloseDatabase

Everything works, except I'm getting problems with the 10-minute 
timeout from Valentina.  I do have valid Mac and Windows valentina 
serial numbers.  I double-checked with Ruslan at Paradigmasoft to make 
sure I was using the proper serial numbers.

Has anyone gotten Valentina to work with RR 2.5 using these standard 
functions.  Or are you having to use the Valentina external method to 
make it work?

Thank you,

Gordon Tillman

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Valentina and RR 2.5 - Timeouts

2004-11-01 Thread Gordon Tillman
Howdy Folks,
A question for anyone using RR 2.5 and Valentina
I have a simple test stack that uses the following functions to 
communicate with Valentina:

revOpenDatabase
revDataFromQuery
revExecuteSQL
revCloseDatabase
Everything works, except I'm getting problems with the 10-minute 
timeout from Valentina.  I do have valid Mac and Windows valentina 
serial numbers.  I double-checked with Ruslan at Paradigmasoft to make 
sure I was using the proper serial numbers.

Has anyone gotten Valentina to work with RR 2.5 using these standard 
functions.  Or are you having to use the Valentina external method to 
make it work?

Thank you,
Gordon Tillman
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Re: sample stacks - detailed description of how to find them

2004-11-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/1/04 9:34 AM, Ralph R. Forehand wrote:
> You wrote;
>
>> What was the problem? I'd like to know, in case someone else hits
>> it in the future.
>
> The problem for me was navigation to the Learning Center! When I
> tried accessing the "Learning Center" directly from the revOnline
> browser, it generated a "learning_center.rvc.gz" document - BUT does
> not tell you anything else? i.e. that  you must them open the
> "learning_center.rvc.gz" document with the browsar Revolution Logo
> Button. An unnecessarily complicated procedure to say the least IMHO.
>
>
> Surely Revolution should and will make accessing their Learning
> Centermore direct and easier for us Newbies.
>
It is supposed to be much easier than your experience. Most people can 
click directly on the Learning Center within the RevOnline browser and 
it opens up directly. They never even know there is a downloaded file on 
their disk. The things you had to do to access the Learning Center were 
a work-around for your specific situation.

So we still don't know why you had to go to that much trouble. I'd like 
to figure it out if possible. Did you move your Rev distribution folder 
somewhere other than the Apps folder? There is (or was) a bug where very 
long file paths, or paths with some international characters in their 
names, cannot be accessed. Could that be part of the problem? What 
happens if you move your Revolution folder to the desktop?

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1

2004-11-01 Thread Frank Leahy
On Nov 1, 2004, at 5:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

From: "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: image size limit?
To: "'How to use Revolution'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
How about reading half the image, and assembling after you resize and 
take a
snapshot?

You can read half the image or by quarters Using a loop and reading 
the file
the "traditional" way with Open, read, close file...

Just wondering... ;)
The JPEG format is a compressed format, with a header that may or may 
not contain EXIF information and a thumbnail, followed by the 
compressed data.  You cannot simply open the file, read half of it, and 
expect it to be half of the picture -- that's not how compression 
works.  You have to find the header, skip the header, and then 
uncompress it as you read each byte or sequence of bytes.

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Re: wait with messages revisited.

2004-11-01 Thread K

I posted the below some days ago.  I have further questions and further infomation.

In my testing of "wait for X seconds with message":

Example code:

global gblA
global gblB

[Button A]
on mouseUp 

  repeat forever
   put "Waiting A" & return after field "status"
   if gblA is true then return true
   wait for 1 seconds with messages
  end repeat 

  put "A completed" & return after field "status"
  
end mouseUp

[Button SignalA] 
on mouseUp 
  put "Signaled A" & return into field "status"
  put true into gblA
end mouseUp

[Button SignalB]
on mouseUp
  put "Signaled B" & return into field "status"
  put true into gblB
end mouseUp

[Button B]
on mouseUp 

  repeat forever
   put "Waiting B" & return after field "status"
   if gblB is true then return true
   wait for 1 seconds with messages
  end repeat 
  
  put "B Completed" & return after field "status" 

end mouseUp

Event   Output
[Clicked A] Waiting A
[Clicked B] Waiting B
[Clicked SignalA]   
[Clicked SignalB]   B completed
A completed

This is not the case on Win32 is different.  How is this supposed to work?  The 
documentation does not refer to any dependency for "wait  with messages" or even 
"wait until x with messages".  I am confused!!!


>Okay, some time ago everyone assisted me with understanding how "wait with >messages" 
>functions. I am still a bit confused.
>
>In my testing I found the following.
>
>Example code:
>
>[Button A]
>global evtA
>
>on mouseUp
>put "Waiting on event (A)" & cr into field edtStatus
>wait until evtA with messages
>put "Event (A) signaled" & cr into field edtStatus
>end mouseUp
>
>[Button B]
>
>global evtB
>
>on mouseUp
>put "Waiting on event (B)" & cr into field edtStatus
>wait until evtB with messages
>put "Event (B) signaled" & cr into field edtStatus
>end mouseUp
>
>[Button Clear]
>
>global evtA
>global evtB
>
>on mouseUp
>put false into evtA
>put false into evtB
>end mouseUp
>
>[Button SignalA]
>
>global evtA
>
>on mouseUp
>put true into evtA
>end mouseUp
>
>[Button SignalB]
>
>global evtB
>
>on mouseUp
>put true into evtB
>end mouseUp
>
>
>
>Test
>Click Clear Output: Nothing
>Click A Output: Waiting on event (A)
>Click B Output: Waiting on event (B)
>Click SignalA Output: Nothing
>Click SignalB Output: Waiting on event (A)
>Output: Waiting on event (B)
>
>This means that each wait is dependent on the previous A cannot be signaled >until B 
>completes. Is this the intended result?

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Re: sample stacks - detailed description of how to find them

2004-11-01 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
Hugh Senior wrote;
>You may find the Scripter's Scrapbook of interest, not only as a means of seeing some 
>samples but more for accumulating and co-ordinating your own code segments, scripts, 
>documents, links and support information:
>
>http://www.flexibleLearning.com/xtalk.htm
>

Hugh,

Thank You Very Much for the heads-Up and URL. :-))

Yes, the Scripter's Scrapbook is very much of interest and an excellent tool. I am 
particularly impressed with it's built-in features. I've downloaded it and most 
certainly will use it!

Thanks Again and TAKE CARE,
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Re: sample stacks - detailed description of how to find them

2004-11-01 Thread Ralph R. Forehand
>On 10/31/04 2:20 PM, Ralph R. Forehand wrote:
>
>>Thank Goodness!! With your help I finally found it and have review
>>the sample stacks and scripts. I quickly found two scripts that I can
>>use directly in converting my favorite HyoerCard stack!! I'm sure
>>I'll learn more from these resources in future,

You wrote;
>What was the problem? I'd like to know, in case someone else hits it in the future.
>
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The problem for me was navigation to the Learning Center! When I tried accessing the 
"Learning Center" directly from the revOnline browser, it generated a 
"learning_center.rvc.gz" document - BUT does not tell you anything else? i.e. that  
you must them open the "learning_center.rvc.gz" document with the browsar Revolution 
Logo Button. An unnecessarily complicated procedure to say the least IMHO.

Surely Revolution should and will make accessing their Learning Centermore direct and 
easier for us Newbies.

I trust the above is helpful.

Thanks Again for your help and interest.

TAKE CARE,
Ralph


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Re: How to make My application Trial ware

2004-11-01 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Niva,

I´ll make this mail short, as I´m in a hurry.

My strategy is the following:

Create a Preferences stack for your app.
Have a handler that generates a password string in your app.

You might look at the following demo:

http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/passwort.rev.zip

Don´t use it without modifying to make it unique for your app.

In your registration dialogue you need three fields.
Take a few chars from the first and the second field, put them into a var,
add some numbers here and there. Add some chars here and there (look at the
demo stack mentioned above). Nothing but basic string manipulation.
This string will need to be entered in the 3rd field ofyour registration
dialogue. If it is the password you sent to your users, set a custom
property in your preferences stack and save it. Enable or disable the
features of your app. in a preOpenstack or openstack handler and after
entering the registration data, if the customproperty of your preferences
stack is set accordingly.

Password protect the script of your stack before building your distribution,
that one cannot see how you generated the unlock string.

If anything I wrote here is not clear, feel free to ask.

Best,

Malte 

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Re: Best way to create multicolored windows icon on a mac?

2004-11-01 Thread Malte Brill
Thank you all and especially Chipp for the great tutorial. :-)
Even though I couldn´t find the action "convert 128 to others" I hope I have
an icon now made with Icon Builder Pro. And yes: It works with Photoshop
Elements 2.x

Thanks again,

Malte

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