Re: words in Transcript

2005-05-22 Thread jbv

You can use another construct :

  set the wholematches to true
  put wordoffset(called,make sure the closeField is called, as
follows:)
--- returns 0

  set the wholematches to false
  put wordoffset(called,make sure the closeField is called, as
follows:)
--- returns 6

JB


 In Transcript

 called is among the words of make sure the closeField is called as
 follows:

 but

 called is NOT among the words of make sure the closeField is called,
 as follows:

 Is that logical? could it be changed?

 Best regards

 Ton


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Re: words in Transcript

2005-05-22 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Melit=F3n_Cardona_Torres?=

JB has suggested:

set the wholematches to false
put wordoffset(called,make sure the closeField is called, as 
follows:)


 --- returns 6

But ...

set the wholematches to false
put wordoffset(print,make sure the closeField is printed, as 
follows:)


 --- returns 6 too,


yet ... Printed is not the word print.

From a syntactic point of view a word is a word even when it is trailed 
by , . - : ; ? !


so I vote for Klaus Major's proposal (is among the tokens of )

Vielen Dank, Klaus!


Ton


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Re: words in Transcript

2005-05-22 Thread Robert Brenstein

JB has suggested:

set the wholematches to false
put wordoffset(called,make sure the closeField is called, as follows:)

 --- returns 6

But ...

set the wholematches to false
put wordoffset(print,make sure the closeField is printed, as follows:)

 --- returns 6 too,


yet ... Printed is not the word print.

From a syntactic point of view a word is a word 
even when it is trailed by , . - : ; ? !


so I vote for Klaus Major's proposal (is among the tokens of )

Vielen Dank, Klaus!

Ton


Melitón, this is correct in this case: by setting 
whole matches off, you tell Rev that partial 
matches are okay and print is a substring of 
printed. Such a search will find print, 
printable, printed, printing, prints, misprint, 
etc, thus allowing you to look for a word 
regardless of the grammatical or flexical form. 
It will also find print, and print. and print? or 
print! that is a word with punctuation marks. If 
you want exact match, set whole matches on :)


Robert
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OT: A good book on Applescript?

2005-05-22 Thread Mark Smith

Can anyone recommend a good book on Applescript?

Despite 10years+ experience with xTalks, I still find Applescript 
utterly impenetrable - Apples' own documentation manages to be so 
verbose and yet so abstract as to make the often-complained about 
(sometimes by me) Rev docs look brilliant. In particular, reading the 
dictionaries of applications, I feel like a 13th century peasant 
attempting to understand a technical description of a particle 
accelerator...


Thanks,

Mark

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RE: can Rev handle big numbers?

2005-05-22 Thread MisterX
Andre,

Base number calculations are one of my fields of expertise, i reverse
engineered natural mathematics for my own theory of quantic compression. And
got limited very often but learned a lot! I have plans for an enhanced n-bit
calculator and base-free of course but speed might be an issue though so
i'll takle it in a distributed cluster style to make it faster though...

Right now, you can use shell(start python /c scriptfilepath 
logfilepath)
and get a bit higher precision. 

There's always mathematica but i found it's limit already (took 6 months
non-stop calculation to make mathematica crash - and i dont know where!)

Yes, I have plans to extend TAOO's computation. Distributed/cluster style
with arrays but the speed may not be spectacular for a while...

What do you need Andre? Like in Scripting, there's always cools tricks with
numbers ;)

;)
Xa

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 Subject: Re: can Rev handle big numbers?
 
 
 On May 21, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
 
  the main trouble is with base conversions here... damn big numbers.
 
 If you just need hex and raw binary consider H* and 
 binaryEncode and binaryEncode.
 
 I think command-line D is in OS X, but I don't know anything 
 about it.  
 It might be available for other platforms.
 
 Security utilities might do big whole-number arithmetic.
 
 If you are happy with the 52 (53?) bits of wholes represented 
 in double, then you make your own base conversion.
 
 You can nag me to put arithmetic higher on my list, but who 
 knows what good that'll do.  I am very curious about what 
 your arithmetic and base conversion needs are.
 
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Re: OT: A good book on Applescript?

2005-05-22 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Serge_S=E9gu?=


Le 22 mai 05, à 15:31, Mark Smith a écrit :


Can anyone recommend a good book on Applescript?


++ Many people recommend the Danny Goodman's AppleScript Handbook.

Personaly I have learned with AppleScript for dummies who is very 
interesting, despite the title (for example, it gives tricks for 
debuging droplet, idle handler, etc) then AppleScript in a nutshell 
who is very complete.


Soon, The book of the AppleScript guru Sal Soghoian 1.2.3 Applescript 
 ...


Regards
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Re: OT: A good book on Applescript?

2005-05-22 Thread Mark Smith

Thanks, Serge, I'll check them out.

best,

Mark
On 22 May 2005, at 15:47, Serge S?gu wrote:




Can anyone recommend a good book on Applescript?


++ Many people recommend the Danny Goodman's AppleScript Handbook.

Personaly I have learned with AppleScript for dummies who is very
interesting, despite the title (for example, it gives tricks for
debuging droplet, idle handler, etc) then AppleScript in a nutshell
who is very complete.

Soon, The book of the AppleScript guru Sal Soghoian 1.2.3 Applescript
  ...

Regards
Serge


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delete last card problems

2005-05-22 Thread Bob Hartley

Hi All

I haev a database with a group of fields on it. I have a  delete card 
button with the script

on mouseup
delete card
end mouseup

This works perfectly with one exception. If I delete all cards down to the 
last card I still see my database template. If however, I delete the last 
card I dont see my group of fields.


So I'd like to do something like this
Have a delete card button that will delete a card unless it is the last 
one, and if it is the last card only clear the fields


I thought of
on mouseup
if this card is not cd 1
then delete this card
end if
if this cd is cd 1
then clear all fields
end if
end mouseup

I get an error with this.

Any ideas along this line?

cheers
bob


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shell command on Windows

2005-05-22 Thread Christian Langers

Hello,

on Os X, I'm able to use the shell for zipping files/folders...

is there an equivalent command for the shell command  ditto -c -k -- 
keepParent --sequesterRsrc  SourceFileDestinationFile.zip) in  
windows ?


Or can't I zip files via the shell  in windows ?


Thanks in advance,


Christian L.
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Re: delete last card problems

2005-05-22 Thread Dennis Brown

Bob,

You could do this by going through a loop to clear each field on the  
card:


  repeat with c=1 to the number of controls in card 1
get the name of control c --button btnName
if word 2 of it is quotelabel fieldquote then next repeat -- 
filter out any label fields

if word 1 of it is field then put empty into it
  end repeat

Dennis

On May 22, 2005, at 3:01 PM, Bob Hartley wrote:


Hi All

I haev a database with a group of fields on it. I have a  delete  
card button with the script

on mouseup
delete card
end mouseup

This works perfectly with one exception. If I delete all cards down  
to the last card I still see my database template. If however, I  
delete the last card I dont see my group of fields.


So I'd like to do something like this
Have a delete card button that will delete a card unless it is the  
last one, and if it is the last card only clear the fields


I thought of
on mouseup
if this card is not cd 1
then delete this card
end if
if this cd is cd 1
then clear all fields
end if
end mouseup

I get an error with this.

Any ideas along this line?

cheers
bob


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Re: shell command on Windows

2005-05-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 5/22/05 2:31 PM, Christian Langers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 Or can't I zip files via the shell  in windows ?

Well, AFAIK, Windows doesn't come with built-in compression like ZIP; you
have to buy/download WinZip, or Stuffit for Windows. I believe WinZip has a
command line option, but I think you need to download and install it.

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Re: delete last card problems

2005-05-22 Thread Robert Brenstein

Hi All

I haev a database with a group of fields on it. I have a  delete 
card button with the script

on mouseup
delete card
end mouseup

This works perfectly with one exception. If I delete all cards down 
to the last card I still see my database template. If however, I 
delete the last card I dont see my group of fields.


So I'd like to do something like this
Have a delete card button that will delete a card unless it is the 
last one, and if it is the last card only clear the fields


I thought of
on mouseup
if this card is not cd 1
then delete this card
end if
if this cd is cd 1
then clear all fields
end if
end mouseup

I get an error with this.

Any ideas along this line?

cheers
bob



I wanted to say that checking for cd 1 can work only if user deletes 
properly all other cards first. For example, consider a stack with 3 
cards and user is on the last card. He deletes it, so the current 
card becomes 1. Now your check will refuse to delete but clear cards 
instead; however, there is still one more card left.


clear all fields is not a valid construct -- you need to empty one 
field after another.


Robert
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prompt for confirmation

2005-05-22 Thread Bob Hartley

Hi All.

I have a button on my database that saves data to an external file. I want 
to put in a check on this.


eg, when they press the button they get asked Do you really want to export 
this data? It will replace the fiel adn cant be undone and a box with Yes 
and No that performs the action.


I know I can add a stack that has 2 buttons on this, but to save doing this 
every time, I wondered if there was a script that popped up a standard 
windows save box?


I tried to test with..
on mouseUp
  ask do you want to overrite your palm data with yes
end mouseUp

But this does something else.

Any help appreciated.

PS Monte I see you are online, wer eyou interested in a palm syncer?

Cheers
Bob 



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Re: prompt for confirmation

2005-05-22 Thread Dar Scott


On May 22, 2005, at 2:32 PM, Bob Hartley wrote:

I have a button on my database that saves data to an external file. I 
want to put in a check on this.


eg, when they press the button they get asked Do you really want to 
export this data? It will replace the fiel adn cant be undone and a 
box with Yes and No that performs the action.


I know I can add a stack that has 2 buttons on this, but to save doing 
this every time, I wondered if there was a script that popped up a 
standard windows save box?


Perhaps 'answer' is what you want.

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Re: Language ideas

2005-05-22 Thread Hershel Fisch

 In my opinion to English'ish is very error prone, because every body has his
 way of talking. True, transcript is English but English has many versions.
 Besides the fact that RR is already a very big language. Therefore I think
 the best way is a bit scheme or some kind of formality and not, e.g. If
 there is a or so on. Also in your case 70 percent of RR has has to be
 changed and 10 percent omitted (which I would prefer)
 IsNumber change to number and number change to amount or count
 selectedLine, hilitedLine.
 Now in a case like this I'd rather suggest to add a function thereIs or
 something alike, instead of looping to equate.
 Hershel Fisch
 
 Hershel, the construct there is a is already in the language. It's
 used to check for existence of something (object in a stack, file,
 directory). Xavier just suggested new options: to check whether a
 volume (it should be volume or partition not drive) is mounted
 (volume in question could be local, remote, or virtual) or whether a
 control is inside a specific group. The current syntax allows
 checking only whether a control exists.
 
Yes, thanks for making me aware of it, my problem, I used looping instead
(hopefully no more).
That again proves my point that the language is a bit big and should not get
bigger. Instead I'd suggest to do some changes instead of adding operators,
to be able to combine operators, there is a is actual 1 operator, instead
there a keyword is and not are already implemented should be able to
work together. That will enable to write 'if abc contains not d' instead
of writing  'if abc contains d is false', if whatever exist not',
using the same concept across the board. What I would work on this moment is
to be able to use the language asis (maybe a bit reduced) to be able mix and
mach the existing keywords operators and so on.
If I'll be busy learning languages all the time I might become a programmer,
well I'm in the money making business, if it doesn't go in programming I'll
sell homes if it wouldn't go with homes I'll sell big buildings. The bottom
line is to make a living and support my family.
Thanks, no offence to anybody just expressing my self.
Hershel Fisch

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Re: shell command on Windows

2005-05-22 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Ken Ray  wrote:

 Well, AFAIK, Windows doesn't come with built-in compression like ZIP; you
 have to buy/download WinZip, or Stuffit for Windows. I believe WinZip has a
 command line option, but I think you need to download and install it.

I'm no expert, but an exception *might* be XP.  My copy of XP Home seems to
have ZIP built in.  Right-clicking a compressed file includes an option to
unzip from the contextual menu which steps through a two step unzip wizard
(this is apparently provided by the OS).

Something may have been included in a service upgrade, but even then zip
still seems to be an MS-provided thing on this OS.

Regards,

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Re: method of copy button required via popup. Advice on howto

2005-05-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

IE click on one button and it inserts a button with a script
on mouseup
do function1
end mouseup

but if function 2 is selected from the popup it adds a button with 
script

on mouseup
do function2
end mouseup

How do I do this. I thought of having a hidden stack with buttons with 
the functions in them and simply have the button do this.


What would the type of command be.

here is a guess

on mouseup
if the popup functionchoice is menupick insert function1
Copy button Function1 to stack target
end if
if the popup functionchoice is menupick insert function2
Copy button Function2 to stack target
end if
end mouseup

If I understand you correctly, the popup button doesn't actually do 
anything, it just provides information for another button.
Your problem is how to get that second button to tell what has been 
selected in the popup.

The script for that is:
put the selectedText of btn functionchoice into tChoice
or
put the menuHistory of btn functionchoice into tLineNum
put line tLineNum of btn functionchoice into tChoice

Then use tChoice in your handler:
if tChoice = insert function 1 then
 ...
else if tChoice = insert function 2 then
 ...
end if

HTH,
Sarah

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Re: Language ideas

2005-05-22 Thread Robert Brenstein

  Hershel, the construct there is a is already in the language. It's

 used to check for existence of something (object in a stack, file,
 directory). Xavier just suggested new options: to check whether a
 volume (it should be volume or partition not drive) is mounted
 (volume in question could be local, remote, or virtual) or whether a
 control is inside a specific group. The current syntax allows
 checking only whether a control exists.


Yes, thanks for making me aware of it, my problem, I used looping instead
(hopefully no more).
That again proves my point that the language is a bit big and should not get
bigger. Instead I'd suggest to do some changes instead of adding operators,
to be able to combine operators, there is a is actual 1 operator, instead
there a keyword is and not are already implemented should be able to
work together. That will enable to write 'if abc contains not d' instead
of writing  'if abc contains d is false', if whatever exist not',
using the same concept across the board. What I would work on this moment is
to be able to use the language asis (maybe a bit reduced) to be able mix and
mach the existing keywords operators and so on.
If I'll be busy learning languages all the time I might become a programmer,
well I'm in the money making business, if it doesn't go in programming I'll
sell homes if it wouldn't go with homes I'll sell big buildings. The bottom
line is to make a living and support my family.
Thanks, no offence to anybody just expressing my self.
Hershel Fisch



Unless I misunderstand what you are saying, yes, you can combine 'not'

if there is a file z then
if there is not a file z then

if x is in y then
if x is not in y then

if x is among words of y then
if x is not among words of y then

etc

'contains' seems to be the only exception to that syntax but you can say

if z contains x then
if not (z contains x) then

Also, 'contains' is the same as 'is in' just acting in opposite 
direction, so you can also say


if x is not in z then

What Xavier suggested for 'there' was not adding a new operator but 
extending the existing operator to new objects. That is quite 
different, although I came to realize in the meantime that 'there is 
a volume x' can be achieved already with 'x is among the lines of 
volumes()' and checking about control inside a group can be achieved 
by inspecting the owner of that control, so the new syntax would be 
just a shortcut in both instances. Nevertheless it would often make 
the code clearer, so I still think these could be worthwhile 
additions.


Robert
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Re: delete last card problems

2005-05-22 Thread Ken Ray
 I wanted to say that checking for cd 1 can work only if user deletes
 properly all other cards first. For example, consider a stack with 3
 cards and user is on the last card. He deletes it, so the current
 card becomes 1. Now your check will refuse to delete but clear cards
 instead; however, there is still one more card left.

Agreed - better yet is to check:

  if the number of cards = 1 then

 clear all fields is not a valid construct -- you need to empty one
 field after another.

And I'd also remind people that many of us use field labels in front of
fields to describe them, or list fields that *shouldn't* be cleared...
better yet would be to test the lockText or the listBehavior of each field
before you clear it.


Ken Ray
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Re: Revmail thunderbird --no address?

2005-05-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 5/22/05 6:37 PM, Thomas McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I found a small bug.
 Using revmail on my PC (win98-jap) which has Thunderbird (ver 1?) installed:
 Thunderbird starts up properly.
 The message and subject are there, but the sendto address field is empty.
 
 The this command works on my mac (Mail) and other pcs (outlook).

It could be the way the mailto:; shell command (which I believe revMail
uses) is constructed... many email programs are quite picky; wouldn't
surprise me if Thunderbird is picky as well.

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If You've Registered for RevCon West...

2005-05-22 Thread Dan Shafer
Sorry for the noise here, but it appears an overzealous spam blocker  
may have resulted in one or two people who have registered for RevCon  
West not having their email notices sent to me.


if you have registered for RevCon West and have NOT yet received from  
me an email confirming your registration, please email me OFF LIST at  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and give me the particulars (when you signed up,  
how you paid) so I can be sure we have you on the list.


Thanks.



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Trouble connecting to MySQL

2005-05-22 Thread Terry Judd
The time has come where I've had to start working with a backend  
database on one of my projects. Anyway, I've installed MySQL on my  
desktop for testing purposes and have set up a database with a couple  
of tables (reading a MySQL book as I go). Seems to work fine from the  
command line (although I'm stuck as 'root' user for the moment). So...  
I add some code to my rev stack to add data to my database which looks  
something like...


put revXMLText(pLogTree,/) into tData
-- write sessional data to ATS database
put revOpenDatabase(MySQL,localhost,ATS,username here,password  
here) into pMysql
put INSERT INTO inter  
VALUES(pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tData) into tStatement
revExecuteSQL  
pMysql,tStatement,pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tDa 
ta


...problem is that it falls at the first hurdle (ie revOpenDatabase)  
which returns the following error message:


'Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server;  
consider upgrading MySQL client'


Meaning what? That the rev db library is out of date? I'm running MySQL  
server version 4.1.11-standard on OSX.3


TIA,

Terry...
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Re: Trouble connecting to MySQL

2005-05-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

-- write sessional data to ATS database
put revOpenDatabase(MySQL,localhost,ATS,username  
here,password here) into pMysql
put INSERT INTO inter  
VALUES(pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tData) into tStatement
revExecuteSQL  
pMysql,tStatement,pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tD 
ata


..problem is that it falls at the first hurdle (ie revOpenDatabase)  
which returns the following error message:


'Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server;  
consider upgrading MySQL client'


Meaning what? That the rev db library is out of date? I'm running  
MySQL server version 4.1.11-standard on OSX.3




Hi Terry,

A few weeks ago, Dave Cragg suggested a way around this problem:

I got round this by resetting the user passwords on the newer server  
using the OLD_PASSWORD function.


 SET PASSWORD FOR 'some_user'@'some_host' = OLD_PASSWORD('mypass');


HTH,
Sarah

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RE: shell command on Windows

2005-05-22 Thread MisterX
Christian 

There's also free zip program alternatives... 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/

cheers
Xavier

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 Subject: Re: shell command on Windows
 
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  Or can't I zip files via the shell  in windows ?
 
 Well, AFAIK, Windows doesn't come with built-in compression 
 like ZIP; you have to buy/download WinZip, or Stuffit for 
 Windows. I believe WinZip has a command line option, but I 
 think you need to download and install it.
 
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Re: Trouble connecting to MySQL

2005-05-22 Thread Bill
This was answered earlier here. The password system for the newer version of
Mysql is different so you have to set it to use the old version.


On 5/22/05 10:27 PM, Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The time has come where I've had to start working with a backend
 database on one of my projects. Anyway, I've installed MySQL on my
 desktop for testing purposes and have set up a database with a couple
 of tables (reading a MySQL book as I go). Seems to work fine from the
 command line (although I'm stuck as 'root' user for the moment). So...
 I add some code to my rev stack to add data to my database which looks
 something like...
 
 put revXMLText(pLogTree,/) into tData
 -- write sessional data to ATS database
 put revOpenDatabase(MySQL,localhost,ATS,username here,password
 here) into pMysql
 put INSERT INTO inter
 VALUES(pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tData) into tStatement
 revExecuteSQL  
 pMysql,tStatement,pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tDa
 ta
 
 ...problem is that it falls at the first hurdle (ie revOpenDatabase)
 which returns the following error message:
 
 'Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server;
 consider upgrading MySQL client'
 
 Meaning what? That the rev db library is out of date? I'm running MySQL
 server version 4.1.11-standard on OSX.3
 
 TIA,
 
 Terry...
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Re: Trouble connecting to MySQL

2005-05-22 Thread Terry Judd

From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 May 2005 1:07:29 PM
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Trouble connecting to MySQL
Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com



-- write sessional data to ATS database
put revOpenDatabase(MySQL,localhost,ATS,username  
here,password here) into pMysql
put INSERT INTO inter  
VALUES(pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,tData) into  
tStatement
revExecuteSQL  
pMysql,tStatement,pSession,pInit,pUser,pAddress,pLocation,t 
Data


..problem is that it falls at the first hurdle (ie revOpenDatabase)  
which returns the following error message:


'Client does not support authentication protocol requested by server;  
consider upgrading MySQL client'


Meaning what? That the rev db library is out of date? I'm running  
MySQL server version 4.1.11-standard on OSX.3




Hi Terry,

A few weeks ago, Dave Cragg suggested a way around this problem:

I got round this by resetting the user passwords on the newer server  
using the OLD_PASSWORD function.


 SET PASSWORD FOR 'some_user'@'some_host' =  
OLD_PASSWORD('mypass');



HTH,


Does it what! Interestingly, the same 'problem' seem to be stopping me  
connecting to the server using a MySQL client GUI (CocoaMySQL) whereas  
another client (Navicat) worked no problem.


Much appreciated Sarah and Dave,

Terry...




Dr Terry Judd
Lecturer in Educational Technology (Design)
Biomedical Multimedia Unit
Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry  Health Sciences
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052
AUSTRALIA
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Re: Overlapping text in option button

2005-05-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sat, 21 May 2005 
Ken Ray wrote:

AT  By the way, is this text overflow in option
AT  buttons already in bugzilla?

KR I don't think so. You want to log it?

Today, sunday, i have been sneezing all day,
so probably when i feel better... :-(

al

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