Re: Controlling Quicktime frames
Buongirono Benjamin, hello! I exported a PowerPoint presentation of an educational slideshow which I imported to Revolution but I can't find the proper scripts to Play the Quicktime frame by frame. I want to create 3 buttons: BTN1: Play next frame and stop BTN2:Play previous frame and Stop BTN3:Rewind quicktime to frame 1 Have anyone done that? any help? I have not done this (yet) but you can use Trevor De Vores extermely wonderful Enhanced QuickTime External to retrieve the necessary informations to do what Peter T. Evenson kindly suggested :-) Get it here: http://www.bluemangolearning.com/developer/revolution/enhancedqt.php Although it is 1.0.0 b8 it works very fine! For 1. and 2. you can use: qtGetMovieFileDuration( ) which returns something like this for a movie: 76800,600 = the number of frames in QT timescale, the QT timescale of the movie And: qtgettrackframecount( ) = the number of frames in the movie Then you can calculate the info about how much you will have to add/ subtract to/from the currentTime of player xyz to step frame by frame. 3. ... set the currentTime of player xyz to 0 ## The first frame in a movie = 0 ... Hope that helps. Thanks! Ben Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Brand NEW altBrowser2!!! Neat new capabilities.
Chipp, Congratulations on the new release. I look forward to checking it out. Hey, I'm sorry to bother the list with this, but I've been trying to get ahold of you with a ButtonGadget issue and haven't been successful. Not sure if my e-mails are not getting to you or yours are not getting to me or what. Could you contact me off-list when you have a moment? Thanks, Chris On Feb 28, 2006, at 11:54 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Just thought you all would be the first to know! From the website: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altBrowserCover/default.htm New promotional pricing available for a limited time. --- Completely new version of altBrowser for Mac and PC. New features include: • Embed a fully functional browser substack in your current application with a single click. No more fussing with libraries as the substack is completely self-contained. • Brand new DEMO tutorial stack walks you through setting up altBrowser and it's functions. Also, updates existing externals and itself! • New browser substack streamlined for ease of use and ease of customization. The new simplified scripts are documented well and easily modified. • Now, for the first time, altBrowser can have multiple instances— each with their own browser ID! You can create your own tabbed browser if you like! • Multiple enhancements and fixes from previous versions of altBrowser. No more jumping through hoops to set the external. Mac and PC versions are more alike than ever before. • Mac version now automatically loads PDF and Flash documents. It will only take 5 minutes to make you a believer in altBrowser2! Check out our demo stack. It shows you step-by-step how easy it is to add a REAL BROWSER to your Rev project. There are demonstrations for Flash, PDF, and even an embedded fancy AJAX/Javascript app (you'll have to see to believe!;-). To view the demo, all you have to do is launch Revolution and and copy and paste the below script into your message box: go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altbrowser/ altBrowserLauncher.rev then hit enter. Please be patient while the demo stack loads. Once loaded, you may wish to save it. Then just follow the instructions and you're on your way to finding out all about the new altBrowser2! Don't worry, the Demo stack will install all the externals necessary! --- best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Brand NEW altBrowser2!!! Neat new capabilities.
On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:54 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Check out our demo stack. It shows you step-by-step how easy it is to add a REAL BROWSER to your Rev project. There are demonstrations for Flash, PDF, and even an embedded fancy AJAX/Javascript app (you'll have to see to believe!;-). My first look wasn't for your embedded app, but Google Maps. It seems to work, so I'm satisfied. That's amazing stuff. gc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Table Inspector
Hello everyone, Why is it that the Table Inspector in the property palette so often causes Revolution to freeze? Makes setting tab stops a real drag. Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange menu behavior
Hi Jacque, Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately the menu group of both stacks does have the backgroundBehavior set to true. I've done a little more investigating and this is what I've found. When the second stack first opens, it is not even getting set as the topStack or the defaultStack. So unfortunately your workaround doesn't even work. I've even tried setting it to the defaultStack explicitly without success. I've found that once I click on my File menu (just to activate the menu, but not actually click Quit) then the topStack and defaultStack are set correctly, which would explain why ctrl-Q works at this point. So there is definitely something strange going on. This behavior occurs both in the Rev IDE and in a built standalone. Can you, or anyone else for that matter, think of any reason why topStack and defaultStack would not get set correctly? What's strange is I have another stack that opens the same way and it works just fine. I've compared the properties between the two stacks, their menu groups, and even the File button within their menu groups to see if anything is different. Everything is the same other than things like the layers of the objects. Any other ideas? This one has me stumped, but I figure it's got to be something I've done because the other stack does work like I said. Thanks again, Chris On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:53 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Depending on your setup, it might be a message hierarchy thing. On Macs, the menubar property of a stack puts the menu into the OS menu space and keyboard shortcuts are sent there first. There isn't any other menu available, since only one can be active at a time. Whatever menu group a stack contains will get first crack at keyboard events. On Windows there is no global menu bar, and the menu functions as a group on the card. Keyboard events are sent to the card and, if the stack is a substack, the event passes through to the main stack. If your menu group in the main stack has backgroundBehavior set to true, but the menu group on the substack does not, then the main stack's menu group would catch the event. Check to see if your substack's menu group has backgroundBehavior set to true. If it does then maybe you did find a bug. One workaround would be for your quit handler to check whether the mainstack was the topstack, and only quit if it is. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
Hi Gregory, Hello everyone, Why is it that the Table Inspector in the property palette so often causes Revolution to freeze? Makes setting tab stops a real drag. good question, i just experienced that on windows, too. Had some content in a field and only wanted to add some tabstops, selected Table from the optionbutton (when will be have another choice to select the different options for objects? That optionbuttonis just too unhandy!) and BOOM, Rev freezed, I had to forcequit. Gregory Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
And some of us don't know anything *but* xTalk, and I'm happy i don;'t dot notation and such... let's be very careful...find a way to do the same thing in verbose xTalk and it will live...infect the language with obscurity and it will die a slow death from the inside out. If everyone commented their code well, maybe we could live with obscure syntax.. but... While extending the range of functionality can be a good thing...Do not underestimate importance of three viabilities: 1. the post production comprehensibility 2. revisit the objects yourself 6 months later, does it still make sense 3. if you delegate the code base to someone else, can they actually read it These three viabilities can in themselves determine if the language will live or die. Go Live is almost dead... did anyone read Adobe's white paper on the level of abstraction of GoLive's auto generated JAVA? Adobe flatly stated (my paraphrase) You will never be able to understand this code; you will never be able to intelligently touch or tweak it, and we have no intention of engineering GoLive to generate intelligible code, if your secretaries use the WSWIG interface and produce web garbage, it's not our problem. If it works in Safari, but not I.E. and there is no way on earth to debug the page, it's not our problem. If you think you will ever be able to pass the corpus of web content created by our program to the next generation staffers, forget it. May StackWare never walk down that path... On Feb 27, 2006, at 7:31 AM, Karen wrote: It wasn't until I found Revolution that I managed to re-capture the enthusiasm and enjoyment that I used to get when programming. I can actually write things (well, some things), rather than struggle with obscure syntax. Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pie Chart Algorithms?
Alex, you are a gem! Thanks: Interesting to note that round produced smoother motion than statRound The following will works for any circle name baseCircle at any location on the card... Watch the little red ball move run around the circle (smile) I renamed your vars to something meaningful -- yes, it's verbose, but as i get older, my short term memory may fail between reading line 1 and line 10 (grin), one advantage of xTalk. (see my thoughts on this on the dot notation thread) and (obviously) setting a single value to i in this on mouseUp put the loc of grc baseCircle into tCenter put getPoints(item 1 of tCenter,item 2 of tCenter,the width of grc baseCircle/2) into tCirclePoints repeat for each line x in tCirclePoints set the loc of grc mars to x wait 2 milliseconds end repeat end mouseUp function getPoints circleLocX, circleLocY,radiusLen -- returns a list of points on the circumference of a circle -- centered at xc,yc with radius rad repeat with tCircumPoint= 0 to 360 --put 90 into tCircumPoint put Round(circleLocX+ radiusLen*sinInDegrees(tCircumPoint)), Round(circleLocY+radiusLen*cosInDegrees(tCircumPoint)) CR after tResult end repeat return tResult end getPoints function cosInDegrees angleInDegrees return cos(angleInDegrees * pi / 180) end cosInDegrees function sinInDegrees angleInDegrees return sin(angleInDegrees * pi / 180) end sinInDegrees On Mar 01, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Not professional, but maybe interested amateur :-) (this returns floating point numbers - remember to convert to integers before using as points of a polygon or similar) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RGB to HEX
At 9:44 AM -0800 3/1/2006, Garrett Hylltun wrote: Is there a built-in function in Rev that will convert RGB color string to a HEX color string? If no, does anyone know how to do this? I knew how to do this in another language, but am at a loss as to how to work it out in Rev. Here's a code snippet: put # into theWebColor -- leading # repeat for each item myItem in theColorNumber -- numeric triplet - R,G,B get baseConvert(myItem,10,16) if the length of it is 1 then put zero before it -- each component must be 2-digit put it after theWebColor end repeat -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
Bug reports like this would be more helpful to you and others if you'd tell us: * what version of Rev/Dreamcard you're running * on what version of what platform I just tested table inspector on OS X 10.4.5 in Rev 2.6.1 and 2.7 and had no problems at all despite efforts intended to break it. Doesn't mean there's no bug here but it does mean that the inspector does not appear on my system to be unusable. On 3/2/06, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregory, Hello everyone, Why is it that the Table Inspector in the property palette so often causes Revolution to freeze? Makes setting tab stops a real drag. good question, i just experienced that on windows, too. Had some content in a field and only wanted to add some tabstops, selected Table from the optionbutton (when will be have another choice to select the different options for objects? That optionbuttonis just too unhandy!) and BOOM, Rev freezed, I had to forcequit. Gregory Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML Library and Windows
On 2 Mar 2006, at 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A popular cross-platform function to get the appropriate path was written by Richard Gaskin: ## function AppPath put the filename of this stack into tPath set the itemdel to / If (IsOSX()) then get offset(.app/Contents/MacOS/, tPath) if it 0 then -- 2.4.3 or later delete char it to len(tPath) of tPath end if end if delete last item of tPath return tPath / end AppPath function IsOSX if the platform is not MacOS then return false get the systemversion set the itemdel to . if item 1 of it = 10 then return true return false end IsOSX ## (for a more complete explanation, go to: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file008.htm) So, armed with the function above, you can change the path to the report layout file as follows: ## on mouseUp -- prep all the variables put AppPath() reports/myreport.qrl \ into tLayoutPath put MyDataStack into tStackName put true into tPreviewFlag put all into tCardRange -- and print the data stack qrtReports_PrintReportFromStack \ tLayoutPath,tStackName,tPreviewFlag,tCardRange end mouseUp ## Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam Reports for Revolution http://www.quartam.com Jan, Thanks for all your help with this - it is very much appreciated. I now have my program generating attractive reports on both the Mac and Windows :-). I'm very pleased with Quartam Reports and I'm looking forward to seeing what v1.1 brings. Thanks, Karen ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
Hi Dan, Bug reports like this would be more helpful to you and others if you'd tell us: Sure. * what version of Rev/Dreamcard you're running Rev 2.7 * on what version of what platform Started Rev 2.7 for the first time on my PC Win XP Home :-) I just tested table inspector on OS X 10.4.5 in Rev 2.6.1 and 2.7 and had no problems at all despite efforts intended to break it. Doesn't mean there's no bug here but it does mean that the inspector does not appear on my system to be unusable. Things like this are unfortunately not reproducable most of the time, at least not reliably, so please see comments like these more as an attempt to save some money for a psychiatrist :-D On 3/2/06, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregory, Hello everyone, Why is it that the Table Inspector in the property palette so often causes Revolution to freeze? Makes setting tab stops a real drag. good question, i just experienced that on windows, too. Had some content in a field and only wanted to add some tabstops, selected Table from the optionbutton (when will be have another choice to select the different options for objects? That optionbuttonis just too unhandy!) and BOOM, Rev freezed, I had to forcequit. Gregory Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RGB to HEX
Garrett... Check out the Color Converter 2 Pro utility at www.FlexibleLearning.com/xtalk /H Is there a built-in function in Rev that will convert RGB color string to a HEX color string? If no, does anyone know how to do this? I knew how to do this in another language, but am at a loss as to how to work it out in Rev. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
OS X 10.4.5. The problem occurs with Rev 2.7 and 2.6.1. The freeze doesn't happen all of the time, but it is most likely to happen when there's a lot of data in the selected field and when switching from one of the Property Inspector's modes (Basic, Content, Table, etc.) to another. Gregory On Thu, Mar 2, 2006, at 1:00 PM, use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bug reports like this would be more helpful to you and others if you'd tell us: * what version of Rev/Dreamcard you're running * on what version of what platform I just tested table inspector on OS X 10.4.5 in Rev 2.6.1 and 2.7 and had no problems at all despite efforts intended to break it. Doesn't mean there's no bug here but it does mean that the inspector does not appear on my system to be unusable. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
Gregory Lypny wrote: OS X 10.4.5. The problem occurs with Rev 2.7 and 2.6.1. The freeze doesn't happen all of the time, but it is most likely to happen when there's a lot of data in the selected field and when switching from one of the Property Inspector's modes (Basic, Content, Table, etc.) to another. Reproduced here too: OS X 10.3.9, Rev 2.7. The freeze happened immediately after selecting the Table pane. I tried it with a field containing (non-table) data, and again with a field I had just emptied. I'll BZ it unless I find someone else has done it already. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: strange menu behavior
Chris Sheffield wrote: Hi Jacque, Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately the menu group of both stacks does have the backgroundBehavior set to true. So much for that theory. I've done a little more investigating and this is what I've found. When the second stack first opens, it is not even getting set as the topStack or the defaultStack. So unfortunately your workaround doesn't even work. I've even tried setting it to the defaultStack explicitly without success. I've found that once I click on my File menu (just to activate the menu, but not actually click Quit) then the topStack and defaultStack are set correctly, which would explain why ctrl-Q works at this point. So there is definitely something strange going on. This behavior occurs both in the Rev IDE and in a built standalone. Can you, or anyone else for that matter, think of any reason why topStack and defaultStack would not get set correctly? What's strange is I have another stack that opens the same way and it works just fine. I've compared the properties between the two stacks, their menu groups, and even the File button within their menu groups to see if anything is different. Everything is the same other than things like the layers of the objects. Any other ideas? This one has me stumped, but I figure it's got to be something I've done because the other stack does work like I said. Some things to check: Is the misbehaving stack opened as modeless or any mode other than toplevel? That could affect the message hierarchy. Are there any go commands in your scripts issued after the stack opens? That could change the topstack. Did you try setting the topstack rather than the defaultstack (toplevel 'mystack')? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Debugging question
Is there any way to get a call stack? I have a screen where if you press Enter (Windows) it is calling a method, but I can't figure out why. It would be nice if I could see what took place to get me where I was. The message watcher isn't really helping, but I'll muck around with it a bit more to see. Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging question
On 3/2/06 3:32 PM, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get a call stack? I have a screen where if you press Enter (Windows) it is calling a method, but I can't figure out why. It would be nice if I could see what took place to get me where I was. The message watcher isn't really helping, but I'll muck around with it a bit more to see. It's in the Variable Watcher; the popup menu at the top of the window is the call stack (called the execution contexts). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging question
I never noticed that before! Seems like an odd place for it, though. I'd expect it in the debugger window someplace, but now that I know where it is! Thanks! At 04:25 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: On 3/2/06 3:32 PM, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get a call stack? I have a screen where if you press Enter (Windows) it is calling a method, but I can't figure out why. It would be nice if I could see what took place to get me where I was. The message watcher isn't really helping, but I'll muck around with it a bit more to see. It's in the Variable Watcher; the popup menu at the top of the window is the call stack (called the execution contexts). Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Debugging question
You need Constellation. More evident, and with more features. (Shameless plug. I love it.) Charles On Mar 2, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Peter T. Evensen wrote: I never noticed that before! Seems like an odd place for it, though. I'd expect it in the debugger window someplace, but now that I know where it is! Thanks! At 04:25 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: On 3/2/06 3:32 PM, Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to get a call stack? I have a screen where if you press Enter (Windows) it is calling a method, but I can't figure out why. It would be nice if I could see what took place to get me where I was. The message watcher isn't really helping, but I'll muck around with it a bit more to see. It's in the Variable Watcher; the popup menu at the top of the window is the call stack (called the execution contexts). Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-628-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Player Problem in Rev 2.7 on Windows
Hi, I've run into a problem with the player control in version 2.7 buildNumber 192 on Windows XP. The problem does not occur in version 2.6 of Rev. It does not occur on Mac OS X 10.4.x I've tried 2 Windows XP machines with Quicktime 6 and 7. The problem Player does not play video when the alwaysBuffer is true from the controller. Keyboard message will start the player but the frame rate is way below the setting. Video settings AAC, Mono, 11.025 kHz Sorenson Video 3, 480 x 360, Millions Frame Rate 14.98 Size 480 x 360 pixels Duration 00:01:20.94 I didn't find anything in Bugzilla on this. Anyone run into something similar? Tim Bleiler Instructional Designer, University at Buffalo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transcript and Dot Notation
Dear Sivakatirswami, I was brought up on Basic and VB. In VB (VB6 I mean, not VB.NET), the dot notation is not all that obscure, but nevertheless, after making the transition to Transcript and its verbosity, the fact that someone might consider making it more like VB makes my hair stand on end, or in other words it would be dotty (pun intended). I agree that it would probably mark the beginning of a process of de-characterisation that eventually might be fatal. Of course, I haven't done a survey, but I suggest that (just like VB) a vast core of users are probably inventive users or very ordinary folk like myself, not professionals or (forgive me) nerdy types who have the greatest influence on this List and consequently the development path of RR. Look at what happened to VB when the nerds took over! From a record-breaking 18 million users, VB is now reduced to I don't know how many, but the fact is that M$ are now giving away their software to try and entice users back into the fold. I hope they fail after what they did to VB6 (which is why I am here and not there). The secret of the success of VB (up to VB6) was that it could be used by programmers of all types, from absolute beginners to real professionals. This is a secret shared by Transcript. I'd hate to see Rev do a Microsoft. I couldn't take it twice in a lifetime. One way of looking at it is this. Ordinary people prefer to program in something that more or less corresponds to plain language (it taxes the memory less). Many professionals seem to have a taste for formal languages of the logical or mathematical type. There is, of course, a place for such languages. But Transcript is a very high level general-purpose language. Why try and change it into something else? Are its formal deficiencies so great that something REALLY has to be done along dotty lines? Regards, Bob --- Sivakatirswami wrote: dot notation and such... let's be very careful...find a way to do the same thing in verbose xTalk and it will live...infect the language with obscurity and it will die a slow death from the inside out. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
XP Problems Persist...
Sigh. One of the few students who is honestly playing around with Rev and *trying* to appreciate it is having nothing but problem after problem after problem. This is probably a really stupid question, but does running skins on top of XP create any Rev-related problems? I'm running 2.7 on OS X. He's running 2.7 (trial version) on XP. I created a simple little demo stack on messages and the message path (and, yes, Richard, I did require that they take a look at yours!). Runs fine on my Mac. Copied the file to his thumb drive. He double-clicks the file and it launches 2.7. Good. But it doesn't open the file. Not only does it not open the clicked file, when you try opening it from the File - Open menu, it either does nothing or it throws up an error message that the file cannot be read. The file retains its icon and association with the parent app... only the parent app can't open the file. I just tried re-d/l Rev 2.7 to look for the option to save as a 2.6 file... but can't figure that one out either (will be heading on over to Chipp's site to try that next). Does anyone have any ideas? Would anyone be willing to take a look at the file to see whether I've done something just abysmally stupid that could be causing these problems? It just doesn't give Rev a good name when you have somebody who is clearly in the minority in a class and who is trying to honestly evaluate the product and all they get is crashes and non-functionality... :-( Thanks for any suggestions, Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
Judy, it will sound stupid but I had tons of problems with my thumb drive corrupting my rev stacks... after using it, rev would cease to recognize the stacks. It was not a rev problem it was a cheap thumb drive problem... have you tried to transfer the files using another medium? Cheers andre On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Sigh. One of the few students who is honestly playing around with Rev and *trying* to appreciate it is having nothing but problem after problem after problem. This is probably a really stupid question, but does running skins on top of XP create any Rev-related problems? I'm running 2.7 on OS X. He's running 2.7 (trial version) on XP. I created a simple little demo stack on messages and the message path (and, yes, Richard, I did require that they take a look at yours!). Runs fine on my Mac. Copied the file to his thumb drive. He double-clicks the file and it launches 2.7. Good. But it doesn't open the file. Not only does it not open the clicked file, when you try opening it from the File - Open menu, it either does nothing or it throws up an error message that the file cannot be read. The file retains its icon and association with the parent app... only the parent app can't open the file. I just tried re-d/l Rev 2.7 to look for the option to save as a 2.6 file... but can't figure that one out either (will be heading on over to Chipp's site to try that next). Does anyone have any ideas? Would anyone be willing to take a look at the file to see whether I've done something just abysmally stupid that could be causing these problems? It just doesn't give Rev a good name when you have somebody who is clearly in the minority in a class and who is trying to honestly evaluate the product and all they get is crashes and non-functionality... :-( Thanks for any suggestions, Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
Andre, Thanks, yes, I am trying that right now (u/l the file to RevOnline and just installed a trial version of Rev on the PC in the lab...). Thanks for the pointer! Judy On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Andre Garzia wrote: Judy, it will sound stupid but I had tons of problems with my thumb drive corrupting my rev stacks... after using it, rev would cease to recognize the stacks. It was not a rev problem it was a cheap thumb drive problem... have you tried to transfer the files using another medium? Cheers andre On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Judy Perry wrote: Sigh. One of the few students who is honestly playing around with Rev and *trying* to appreciate it is having nothing but problem after problem after problem. This is probably a really stupid question, but does running skins on top of XP create any Rev-related problems? I'm running 2.7 on OS X. He's running 2.7 (trial version) on XP. I created a simple little demo stack on messages and the message path (and, yes, Richard, I did require that they take a look at yours!). Runs fine on my Mac. Copied the file to his thumb drive. He double-clicks the file and it launches 2.7. Good. But it doesn't open the file. Not only does it not open the clicked file, when you try opening it from the File - Open menu, it either does nothing or it throws up an error message that the file cannot be read. The file retains its icon and association with the parent app... only the parent app can't open the file. I just tried re-d/l Rev 2.7 to look for the option to save as a 2.6 file... but can't figure that one out either (will be heading on over to Chipp's site to try that next). Does anyone have any ideas? Would anyone be willing to take a look at the file to see whether I've done something just abysmally stupid that could be causing these problems? It just doesn't give Rev a good name when you have somebody who is clearly in the minority in a class and who is trying to honestly evaluate the product and all they get is crashes and non-functionality... :-( Thanks for any suggestions, Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problem SOLVED!
Yup, Andre: That's apparently the cause! I was able to u/l the file to RevOnline, install Rev on the PC in here and pull it down from there. Worked fine. Have advised the student that his drive is the problem. As for why we didn't try other options, well, there aren't any other options. Neither of us had a burnable CD, the Macs are all OS 9 and most of them don't work at all, and even if they did, they're running Rev 2.5, and, finally, the FTP server corrupts as well as zero's out files unpredictably, so I couldn't distribute the files that way, either. Yikes. Thanks again! Judy On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Andre Garzia wrote: Judy, it will sound stupid but I had tons of problems with my thumb drive corrupting my rev stacks... after using it, rev would cease to recognize the stacks. It was not a rev problem it was a cheap thumb drive problem... have you tried to transfer the files using another medium? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar Handling
Hi Karen, It seems you haven't got a repy to your question, yet. In the menubar script (or the script of the group that serves as menubar), you could put a menuPick handler. Have a look at the docs for info about the menuPick handler. The menuPick handler could call scripts in the main stack or send commands to other stacks and objects. Depending on what you are trying to do, your menuPick handler might look like on menuPick theMenuItem switch theMenuItem case Open... runOpenHandlerInMainStack break case Something Else send runSomeHandlerInSubstack to the topstack break end switch end menuPick The second case will work fine, if the main stack also has a something handlers. It would be easiest to put all scripts in the main stack, without using the send command, but if each of your substacks should act differently upon a user's menu selection, send is a very useful command. Best, Mark Karen wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a Menubar for OS X with Revolution and I had seen mention of the idea of using a separate stack with a menubar (to avoid the stack contents moving around every time I load it). I have set this up, and on the preOpenStack script of the other cards, I do: set the menubar of me to MyMenubar. This seems to work very nicely - the other cards have the correct menubar, but what I can't puzzle out is how to process the menu actions in these cards. If I do nothing, they are processed back in the Menubar stack - which doesn't have the controls that I want to refer to. How can I process the menu actions correctly? Thanks, Karen -- Consultant and Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.economy-x-talk.com eHUG coordinator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ehug.info Advertise with us and reach 1000 truely interested internet users every month. See http://economy-x-talk.com/advertise.html for more information. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
I'm running 2.7 on OS X. He's running 2.7 (trial version) on XP. I created a simple little demo stack on messages and the message path (and, yes, Richard, I did require that they take a look at yours!). Runs fine on my Mac. Copied the file to his thumb drive. He double-clicks the file and it launches 2.7. Good. But it doesn't open the file. Not only does it not open the clicked file, when you try opening it from the File - Open menu, it either does nothing or it throws up an error message that the file cannot be read. The file retains its icon and association with the parent app... only the parent app can't open the file. Along the same lines as Andre's suggestion, I always zip files before transfer. This seems to give a much more reliable copy of the file. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table Inspector
Yeah, it just started happening one day for me too.. While it does lock-up Rev, I've found that a simple CMD-. (CTRL-Pause for Windows users) will bring it out of being unresponsive (mind you the palette will be cut off but you can still set your tab stops =) _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
I agree. When I recharged my little Revcon thumb drive at the conference, some stacks didn't make it back home, had to download.. Especially had problems using a thumb drive between sys9 and 10. sqb Judy, it will sound stupid but I had tons of problems with my thumb drive corrupting my rev stacks... after using it, rev would cease to recognize the stacks. It was not a rev problem it was a cheap thumb drive problem... have you tried to transfer the files using another medium? Cheers andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RGB to HEX
On Mar 2, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: put # into theWebColor -- leading # repeat for each item myItem in theColorNumber -- numeric triplet - R,G,B get baseConvert(myItem,10,16) if the length of it is 1 then put zero before it -- each component must be 2-digit put it after theWebColor end repeat -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you very much, this helped me figure out how to use that baseConvert. And thank you Sarah and FlexibleLearning for also responding, very much appreciated. Thanks, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RGB to HEX
On Mar 1, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Hello again, Garrett .-) Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, Is there a built-in function in Rev that will convert RGB color string to a HEX color string? If no, does anyone know how to do this? I knew how to do this in another language, but am at a loss as to how to work it out in Rev. Check the baseconvert command in the docs. Pretty straightforward... Thank you Klaus Major, much appreciated. :-) -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Built-in Font Dialog?
On Mar 1, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Klaus Major wrote: HiGarrett, Rev 2.6.1 Greetings, Is there a built-in font dialog in Rev? No, but you can examine the Rev Font menu :-) Again, thanks a bunch. -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Table field does not send closeField
How do I trap for a change in the contents of a table field with cell editing turned on? It doesn't seem to send a closeField message. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
Which brands of thumb drives are having problems? Bill Vlahos On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I agree. When I recharged my little Revcon thumb drive at the conference, some stacks didn't make it back home, had to download.. Especially had problems using a thumb drive between sys9 and 10. sqb Judy, it will sound stupid but I had tons of problems with my thumb drive corrupting my rev stacks... after using it, rev would cease to recognize the stacks. It was not a rev problem it was a cheap thumb drive problem... have you tried to transfer the files using another medium? Cheers andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
Stephen, An interesting spotlight... we had, indeed, been going between his XP machine, any semi-working OS 9 machine and my OS X laptop... Judy On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Stephen Barncard wrote: Especially had problems using a thumb drive between sys9 and 10. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XP Problems Persist...
As it's not mine, I don't know... But at least, thanks to Andre's suggestion, I was able to verify that the thumb drive was the likely culprit and that the same file, when d/l from RevOnline onto a PC machine, worked just fine in XP. Importantly, the student was able to verify this as well. Now, if only there were some similarly easy solution to the third world example that is my department's Macintosh lab... :-/ Many thanks again to all who offered ideas and suggestions. Judy On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Bill Vlahos wrote: Which brands of thumb drives are having problems? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
start using a filePath
what happens if a script has start using stack tMyFilePath when the stack tMyFilePath hasn't been loaded into memory yet? My experience so far is that it doesn't load the stack. -Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: start using a filePath
On 3/3/06, Scott Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what happens if a script has start using stack tMyFilePath when the stack tMyFilePath hasn't been loaded into memory yet? My experience so far is that it doesn't load the stack. Should work fine, provided the program knows where the stack is. I use this all the time. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Table field does not send closeField
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: How do I trap for a change in the contents of a table field with cell editing turned on? It doesn't seem to send a closeField message. Bill Vlahos I think the editor field is created on the fly and placed in front of the table cell. If that field is simply stored, or based on some template, you could edit its script or the script of the template. If not, a front script is likely the way to go. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
