Re: Smart Save stack modified
The Smart-Save updated version is also in my Rev Online user space (user: Paul Claude). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Compressing Rev Compiled Apps?
I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I tried to do it a few times, and always encountered errors. On 5/15/06, Garrett Hylltun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Has anyone ever compressed rev compiled apps with UPX or any other executable compressor? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Routine to check status of URLs
On 15 May 2006, at 18:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I wanted to write a Revolution script that goes through a list of URLs and checks each URL's status, can anyone give me pointers on the best approach? I was originally attempting to do a load URL approach, and then check the error that comes back (either OK, or not found, re-direct failure, etc). Unfortunately I'm finding that load URL tends to take awhile to get through URLs that do not connect. I thought load url was a non-blocking command, but for some reason it does freeze the execution of the handler until it gets through the bad URLs. load url will block until the socket connection has been made. It should be possible to get round this by making your load requests in a repeat loop that uses send message .. in time. However, for the type of information you need, you probably don't want to download the entire url. There is an http HEAD method that just returns the headers that would be returned if you had issued a GET. Below is a very crude routine for using the HEAD method on a single url. (in this case http://www.lacscentre.co.uk/liburl/index.html;) It returns the response headers like this in field 1. HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:15:02 GMT Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) Last-Modified: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:27:18 GMT ETag: 3f50ae1-c7d-430d0980 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 3197 Connection: close Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Perhaps you could fit it into a repeat loop. Cheers Dave -- local pHeaders on mouseUp put www.lacscentre.co.uk into tHost put tHost :80 into tSocket put /liburl/index.html into tPath put HEAD tPath HTTP/1.1 into pHeaders put crlf host: tHost after pHeaders put crlf crlf after pHeaders open socket to tSocket with message gotSocket put the result into tRes if tRes empty then answer tRes end if end mouseUp on gotSocket pSocket write pHeaders to socket pSocket with message written put the result into tRes if tRes empty then answer tRes ##or whatever end if end gotSocket on written pSocket read from socket pSocket until crlf crlf put the result into tRes put it into tData if tRes empty then answer tRes ## or whatever end if put tData into field 1 close socket pSocket end written ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
More cross-platform info needed - Text-to-Speech
As far as I understand revSpeak leverages an operating system's built-in text-to-speech capabilities. Now my experience in this respect is limited to Mac Win: both of which feature really bad voices - the Mac ones have been trotted out with each version of the operating system for at least 10 years never beeing upgraded; they all sound seriously warped. Win XP comes with one installed. So far text-to-speech for Linux looks a bit shaky: http://accessibility.kde.org/developer/kttsd/ However, seeing the way things are going, I expect the Linux world to rapidly pull ahead of the proprietary software crowd fairly rapidly. The real problem (from my point of view) is that a developer cannot automatically assume that an end-user will have text-to-speech installed and configured. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson Philosophical problems are confusions arising owing to the fluidity of meanings users attach to words and phrases. Mathewson, 2006 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Microsoft - The Source of All Evil?
I was doing a web search today, and discovered this little tidbit... point your browser to: http://thesource.ofallevil.com and you end up at... Microsoft! Just confirming what I already knew... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Server permissions
On 5/15/06 10:27 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I determine the permissions on a server share/volume? I would like to document the server permissions on our file servers (both Mac OS X Server and Windows 2000 and 2003 servers). Well, for OS X, you can get the permissions by scripting the shell using the ls command on the file(s) in question and then parsing the result. (See http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml for more details.) For Windows servers, I'm not so sure how to get this info, although you can get the owner for each file with 'dir /q' through the shell... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Server permissions - CORRECTED
On 5/15/06 10:27 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I determine the permissions on a server share/volume? I would like to document the server permissions on our file servers (both Mac OS X Server and Windows 2000 and 2003 servers). OK, forget my last email... Rev can do this itself! Simply point the defaultFolder to the folder you're looking at, and get the detailed files. In the resulting list, the 10th item (I believe) is the file permissions... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Splash Screen Strategy
Hello, I am using the splash screen Architecture for deploying an app. The splash screen stack checks for updates and then launches the Main stack. This part is all based on Chip's altSplash engine. I want the Main stack to manage installing additional stacks and or files. My current strategy is to load those additional stacks and files into custom props in the Main stack. Then when a new version of the main stack is downloaded it will spit out all of the stacks and files that are loaded into it's custom functions into the appropriate places. I thought that this would be easier then managing multiple downloads from the internet for each additional stack and or file. I am interested in hearing some opinions about this strategy. Does it make sense to do it this way? TIA Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
systemWindow question
Hello, I am trying to create window that floats above all other applications. I put the following script in a button, to toggle Float on and off. ON mouseUp IF the systemWindow of this stack is False THEN set the systemWindow of this stack to true ELSE set the systemWindow of this stack to false END IF END mouseUp The result is that the decorations change but the window does NOT float above everything else. What am I missing? TIA Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Send Keys
Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. TIA -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QT path issues
I have a path to a move file which plays well, until I insert a ƒ character (Option-F on Mac) into one of the folder names -- then I get a can't create movie reference error. I'm already using the file: trick to set the file path -- here's the code: put file://pMovieFile into tPath replace space with %20 in tPath set the fileName of player QT to tPath What else can I do to account for such anomalies in the path? -- Richard Gaskin Lead Programmer, ResearchWare Inc. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT path issues
Put your file paths in a SMIL file and play the SMIL file? Phil Davis Richard Gaskin wrote: I have a path to a move file which plays well, until I insert a ƒ character (Option-F on Mac) into one of the folder names -- then I get a can't create movie reference error. I'm already using the file: trick to set the file path -- here's the code: put file://pMovieFile into tPath replace space with %20 in tPath set the fileName of player QT to tPath What else can I do to account for such anomalies in the path? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
this is old and somehow got burped back into the list. Feel free to ignore :) On May 10, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Todd Geist wrote: Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. TIA -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: systemWindow question
This is also old... the bug has been confirmed as new in 2.7.1 On May 10, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Todd Geist wrote: Hello, I am trying to create window that floats above all other applications. I put the following script in a button, to toggle Float on and off. ON mouseUp IF the systemWindow of this stack is False THEN set the systemWindow of this stack to true ELSE set the systemWindow of this stack to false END IF END mouseUp The result is that the decorations change but the window does NOT float above everything else. What am I missing? TIA Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT path issues
Would a urlEncode on the path make any difference? I see you're specifically replacing spaces with %20, but maybe running it through urlEncode would fix this other character. Just a guess. Chris On May 15, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I have a path to a move file which plays well, until I insert a ƒ character (Option-F on Mac) into one of the folder names -- then I get a can't create movie reference error. I'm already using the file: trick to set the file path -- here's the code: put file://pMovieFile into tPath replace space with %20 in tPath set the fileName of player QT to tPath What else can I do to account for such anomalies in the path? -- Richard Gaskin Lead Programmer, ResearchWare Inc. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT path issues
I've developed a workaround for this problem, and made a sample stack. You can use it freely. http://www.digital-salade.com/toki/download/player.rev Tested with ƒ and it works. Thierry On 2006, May 15, , at 22:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: I have a path to a move file which plays well, until I insert a ƒ character (Option-F on Mac) into one of the folder names -- then I get a can't create movie reference error. I'm already using the file: trick to set the file path -- here's the code: put file://pMovieFile into tPath replace space with %20 in tPath set the fileName of player QT to tPath What else can I do to account for such anomalies in the path? -- Richard Gaskin Lead Programmer, ResearchWare Inc. __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Universal binaries from Revolution
Can we get ahold of the engine they're using? Sure would be nice to deploy to Mactel. Ten Thumbs Typing Tutor is, indeed, made with Revolution. We cannot add anything further than what's already been posted to the website. However it might also be worth checking out TT 4.2 to see how well its turning out :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT path issues
Chris Sheffield wrote: On May 15, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I have a path to a move file which plays well, until I insert a ƒ character (Option-F on Mac) into one of the folder names -- then I get a can't create movie reference error. I'm already using the file: trick to set the file path -- here's the code: put file://pMovieFile into tPath replace space with %20 in tPath set the fileName of player QT to tPath What else can I do to account for such anomalies in the path? Would a urlEncode on the path make any difference? I see you're specifically replacing spaces with %20, but maybe running it through urlEncode would fix this other character. Just a guess. Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd tried that. The urlEncode function turns spaces into +, and apparently QT prefers %20. The ƒ character in the path doesn't work even when passed through urlEncode, even accounting for the +. The same method without the ƒ works. Phil suggested using SMIL; unfortunately that's no an option for this app, I need to be able to play the files directly. QT Player has no trouble opening the file regardless of what the path look like -- why does Rev? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT path issues
Thierry Arbellot wrote: I've developed a workaround for this problem, and made a sample stack. You can use it freely. http://www.digital-salade.com/toki/download/player.rev Tested with ƒ and it works. Indeed it does -- thank you! It's frightening that it takes a 7k script to work around this problem, but impressive that you were able to identify the root issue and solve it so completely. Good job. If you come to Malta for ERC the first round's on me. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Playing mp3 on Windows (XP Embedded)
I'm trying to play some mp3 audio files from Revolution on Windows. I've finally got a stack which works OK on my Virtual PC Windows 2000, and on a Windows XP machine, in both cases under StackRunner (the old 2.6 variant). In both cases these are machines without Quicktime, so it's definitely (if I understand things correctly) being played through WMP. I also set dontUseQT on openStack. When I attempt to use the stack on my actual target machine, which is running Windows XP Embedded, at the point that my stack attempts to set the filename of the player object to the path to the file, the result is could not open video player. Audioclips embedded in the stack play fine on this machine. Windows Media Player is on the machine, and can play the test mp3 file fine. However, Windows Media Player was not originally installed as part of the OS: it was downloaded subsequently, so it may not be in the expected location - whatever that is. Questions: a) is there anywhere on Windows that Revolution logs details of problems it experiences - on the Mac I know that I can use the Console app to view a log which is very helpful in debugging issues with eg database drivers, is there an equivalent on Windows? b) does Windows Media Player need to be installed in a particular location for Rev to be able to use it? c) are there any other tips, known gotchas, etc? TIA, Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cognitive Applications Ltd | Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600 http://www.cogapp.com| Fax : +44 (0)1273-728866 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Video/audio playback on Linux
I need to port a QT-intensive app to Linux. What audio and video playback options are available on that platform for us Rev folk, and are there any gotchas I should know about? TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Ken Burns Effect Algorithm-Functions
Well, I think I will have to stay with just moving from point to point (panning) and zooming as two separate operations for now... Since no one is offering any functions I guess this hasn't been done before... so... I'll give it a go on my own. Sivakatirswami On May 15, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Wally Rodriguez wrote: The Ken Burns effect, as used in other applications, has to be calculated on a sub-pixel level so that it does not look jerky, that is because some combinations of start point, size and speed could yield sizes or motion that can't be rounded to one pixel. There must be a way to do this smoothly on the mac, since the screen saver does it, but I couldn't even start to tell you how. W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I was a Hypercard and supercard expert
Dear Sirs.. It´s Revolution a good software for serious development? Some years ago I was a Developer with Supercard and Hypercard in Macintosh.. do you think, Revolution is a good program ? Best wishes, Alvaro Abril, www.alvaroabril.com , Columbian man living in Guatemala, Tech Manager, www.fantasticguatemala.com -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sivakatirswami Enviado el: Martes, 16 de Mayo de 2006 03:46 a.m. Para: How to use Revolution Asunto: Re: Ken Burns Effect Algorithm-Functions Well, I think I will have to stay with just moving from point to point (panning) and zooming as two separate operations for now... Since no one is offering any functions I guess this hasn't been done before... so... I'll give it a go on my own. Sivakatirswami On May 15, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Wally Rodriguez wrote: The Ken Burns effect, as used in other applications, has to be calculated on a sub-pixel level so that it does not look jerky, that is because some combinations of start point, size and speed could yield sizes or motion that can't be rounded to one pixel. There must be a way to do this smoothly on the mac, since the screen saver does it, but I couldn't even start to tell you how. W. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
On May 16, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I need to port a QT-intensive app to Linux. What audio and video playback options are available on that platform for us Rev folk, and are there any gotchas I should know about? Hi Richard, You are stuck with xAnim as your video middleman. See http:// support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 for more info on it. I found the video quality to be somewhere back in the early 90's. Once xAnim is properly setup, I did find it to be very reliable though. You will have to re-compress your video to support the older codec support. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
Mark Talluto wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: What audio and video playback options are available on that platform for us Rev folk, and are there any gotchas I should know about? You are stuck with xAnim as your video middleman. See http:// support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 for more info on it. I found the video quality to be somewhere back in the early 90's. Once xAnim is properly setup, I did find it to be very reliable though. You will have to re-compress your video to support the older Thanks Mark. Bit of a drag, though: no MPEG or MP3 support? Those are the top two formats we need to support. H.. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I was a Hypercard and supercard expert
Hi Alavaro, Sure, Revolution is a great programme, but when do *you* consider a programme good? :-) Tell us what you expect from a good programme and we'll gladly tell you if Revolution has it. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Salery is the easiest way to get your own web store on-line: http:// www.salery.biz/salery.html Op 16-mei-2006, om 22:19 heeft Alvaro Abril - Tecnologia het volgende geschreven: Dear Sirs.. It´s Revolution a good software for serious development? Some years ago I was a Developer with Supercard and Hypercard in Macintosh.. do you think, Revolution is a good program ? Best wishes, Alvaro Abril, www.alvaroabril.com , Columbian man living in Guatemala, Tech Manager, www.fantasticguatemala.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Splash Screen Strategy
I am using the splash screen Architecture for deploying an app. The splash screen stack checks for updates and then launches the Main stack. This part is all based on Chip's altSplash engine. I want the Main stack to manage installing additional stacks and or files. My current strategy is to load those additional stacks and files into custom props in the Main stack. Then when a new version of the main stack is downloaded it will spit out all of the stacks and files that are loaded into it's custom functions into the appropriate places. I thought that this would be easier then managing multiple downloads from the internet for each additional stack and or file. I am interested in hearing some opinions about this strategy. Does it make sense to do it this way? I would say that the answer depends entirely on how often you plan to update and how much needs updating each time. However I would recommend keeping the files separate. I have a splash-screen program with about 20 sub-stacks, some of which get updated quite frequently. If I did it in one file, that would be about 2MB each time, whereas doing it individually means that sometimes the downloads are only a few K, depending on which stack has been updated. Some of the stacks are updated frequently and others have never been updated, so I wouldn't want to ask for the whole thing to be downloaded after every change. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I was a Hypercard and supercard expert
On 5/17/06, Alvaro Abril - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sirs.. It´s Revolution a good software for serious development? Some years ago I was a Developer with Supercard and Hypercard in Macintosh.. do you think, Revolution is a good program ? Best wishes, Alvaro Abril, www.alvaroabril.com , Columbian man living in Guatemala, Tech Manager, www.fantasticguatemala.com If you are a HyperCard/SuperCard expert, then you will find Revolution really easy to use. It has it's own way of doing things, but the basic concept is the same, with lots more power capabilities than HyperCard ever had. But to answer your question properly, we really need to know what sort of software development you are contemplating. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
Maybe VLC? or Mplayer? On May 16, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Thanks Mark. Bit of a drag, though: no MPEG or MP3 support? Those are the top two formats we need to support. H.. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
Wally Rodriguez wrote: Maybe VLC? or Mplayer? Forgive my ignorance, but are these controllable with Rev's player object? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I need to create a background structure (hypercard style)
Dear Sirs.. I need to create background buttons and fields.. I remember in Macintosh.. but in Revolution, i dont know how to create background objects. All my objects are in the cards Thank you, Alvaro Abril, www.fantasticguatemala.com , www.alvaroabril.com -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sarah Reichelt Enviado el: Martes, 16 de Mayo de 2006 02:52 p.m. Para: How to use Revolution Asunto: Re: I was a Hypercard and supercard expert On 5/17/06, Alvaro Abril - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sirs.. It´s Revolution a good software for serious development? Some years ago I was a Developer with Supercard and Hypercard in Macintosh.. do you think, Revolution is a good program ? Best wishes, Alvaro Abril, www.alvaroabril.com , Columbian man living in Guatemala, Tech Manager, www.fantasticguatemala.com If you are a HyperCard/SuperCard expert, then you will find Revolution really easy to use. It has it's own way of doing things, but the basic concept is the same, with lots more power capabilities than HyperCard ever had. But to answer your question properly, we really need to know what sort of software development you are contemplating. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
On May 16, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Wally Rodriguez wrote: Maybe VLC? or Mplayer? Forgive my ignorance, but are these controllable with Rev's player object? Nope. :( Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I need to create a background structure (hypercard style)
Hola, Alvaro, You group the items and set the group's background Behavior to true (i.e., check it in the property editor). This will cause them to be placed on new cards and be in the back of the message path. You can then use the Place Group... menu item in the Object menu to add that group to existing cards. Hope this helps. At 05:20 PM 5/16/2006, you wrote: Dear Sirs.. I need to create background buttons and fields.. I remember in Macintosh.. but in Revolution, i dont know how to create background objects. All my objects are in the cards Thank you, Alvaro Abril, www.fantasticguatemala.com , www.alvaroabril.com -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sarah Reichelt Enviado el: Martes, 16 de Mayo de 2006 02:52 p.m. Para: How to use Revolution Asunto: Re: I was a Hypercard and supercard expert On 5/17/06, Alvaro Abril - Tecnologia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sirs.. It´s Revolution a good software for serious development? Some years ago I was a Developer with Supercard and Hypercard in Macintosh.. do you think, Revolution is a good program ? Best wishes, Alvaro Abril, www.alvaroabril.com , Columbian man living in Guatemala, Tech Manager, www.fantasticguatemala.com If you are a HyperCard/SuperCard expert, then you will find Revolution really easy to use. It has it's own way of doing things, but the basic concept is the same, with lots more power capabilities than HyperCard ever had. But to answer your question properly, we really need to know what sort of software development you are contemplating. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Video/audio playback on Linux
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: What audio and video playback options are available on that platform for us Rev folk, and are there any gotchas I should know about? You are stuck with xAnim as your video middleman. See http:// support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=2290 for more info on it. I found the video quality to be somewhere back in the early 90's. Once xAnim is properly setup, I did find it to be very reliable though. You will have to re-compress your video to support the older Thanks Mark. Bit of a drag, though: no MPEG or MP3 support? Those are the top two formats we need to support. This doesn't help with MPEG but I remember a long time ago, the iGame3D guys had developed an FMOD audio external, which is capable of playing back most any audio file on many platforms. http://www.fmod.org/ I don't know if they ever ported it to LINUX, and I recall there being licensing costs for the external, but it could be an option. Perhaps the Rev guys should look at taking over or developing/licensing this technology. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I need to create a background structure (hypercard style)
Alvaro. If you're a HyperCard/SuperCard expert, I'd suggest you stop working on Rev right now and go to the RunRev Web site and read the two excellent documents there that help you transition from those environments to Revolution. It will save you a LOT of time! Welcome to the Revolution! http://support.runrev.com/resources/hypercard.php http://support.runrev.com/resources/supercard.php Dan Shafer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - Text-to-Speech
Well, I've forgotten the original request of this thread, but the reactions of my students to the Mac OS voices is that they are wayy cool (remember, however, that they are developing apps for kiddies and also working on game dev, so maybe goofy, time-warped voices are what is called for in our particular situation). Doesn't ATT have some nice, cross-plat voices? Or, at least, Win voices? Probably not free, though... Judy On Tue, 16 May 2006, Richmond Mathewson wrote: As far as I understand revSpeak leverages an operating system's built-in text-to-speech capabilities. Now my experience in this respect is limited to Mac Win: both of which feature really bad voices - the Mac ones have been trotted out with each version of the operating system for at least 10 years never beeing upgraded; they all sound seriously warped. Win XP comes with one installed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: More cross-platform info needed - Text-to-Speech
Apple added a few higher quality ones a couple of years ago. While most of the voices are just meant to be funny ( yes, my kids love them too), there are a few that sound reasonably good. I use them a lot and people get used to the sound very quickly. Sarah On 5/17/06, Judy Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I've forgotten the original request of this thread, but the reactions of my students to the Mac OS voices is that they are wayy cool (remember, however, that they are developing apps for kiddies and also working on game dev, so maybe goofy, time-warped voices are what is called for in our particular situation). Doesn't ATT have some nice, cross-plat voices? Or, at least, Win voices? Probably not free, though... Judy On Tue, 16 May 2006, Richmond Mathewson wrote: As far as I understand revSpeak leverages an operating system's built-in text-to-speech capabilities. Now my experience in this respect is limited to Mac Win: both of which feature really bad voices - the Mac ones have been trotted out with each version of the operating system for at least 10 years never beeing upgraded; they all sound seriously warped. Win XP comes with one installed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sample rates in audio
Amazing... Stephen... I really don't know much about this... I mean I don't know theactually audio physics between bits and sampling rates. Of course sample rates seems obvious... how often the recorder is trapping for sound, but how that relates to 'bits is mysterious... anyway... just going with what you said: on recordSound set the recordsamplesize to 11 set the recordrate to 5 set the recordformat to wave record sound file gAudioTestPath end recordSound I'm getting really decent quality at about 15 K per second or 900 K per minute i.e. 11 seconds gives us a 168 K file... I don't think it gets any better than that! And you seem to have declared the bottom threshold... as anything less than a sample rate of 11 starts to break down noticeably... I guess everyone has figured this out long ago... Sivakatirswami On May 15, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Actually you could halve that sample rate to 11 K and still have good intelligibility. Using the Nyquest theorem, the highest frequency you can record at a given sample rate is approximately less than half its sample rate. AM broadcast stations cut off at 5khz, which can be handled easily by the 11k sample rate. This is not 11 k bits per second, like in MP3s, but a full parallel 16 bits at 11k and without compression, will have no artifacts, just bandwidth reduction - i.e. less high end. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
images in cross-platform stacks
I just re-discovered something that might be helpful to others, so here goes. Bottom line: To simplify your code and your life, use JPG images, not PNGs, in stacks intended for cross-platform use. That way you don't have to mess with the screenGamma property to make everything look the same everywhere. Situation: I have a gray PNG file whose only color is 145,145,145 no matter what tool you use, Mac or PC, to get the color info. Even from within OSX Rev, if the image file is opened in another app underneath Rev, I can use the color ppicker's magnifying glass to get the color - still 145,145,145. Then I imported the image into a Rev stack. Boom! The color picker's magnifying glass now says the color in the Rev image object is 123,123,123. What happened? What happened was the screenGamma, since my image is a PNG file. Rev's screenGamma is a color? or brightness? or ??? adjustment factor applied only to PNG files. The screenGamma defaults are 1.7 for Mac and 2.2 for Windows. (I don't know what they are for Linux.) I then used a graphics tool to convert it to JPG, and re-imported it into a Rev stack. The new image object's color is 145,145,145. Cause identified! HTH - Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: sample rates in audio
I just checked out the docs. I'd never looked at this before. recordRate = 5 gives a sample rate of 5k -- THIS is the SAMPLE RATE According to Nyquest, the highest frequency that can be passed at a sample rate of 5k/second is 2.5khz. recordSampleSize = number of bits used to record = 11 -- THIS is the BIT WIDTH I am not aware one could specify odd bit lengths. The number of bits determine the dynamic range - how many steps are used to represent the high and low points in the audio waveform. This is an odd pair - you should test on several players. I was not aware that sound files rate and bit properties would be recognized on a sliding scale. I would check for the 'chipmunk effect' on voices. There are standards that are base on the power of 2 96 48 32 88.2 44.1 22.05 11.025 5.5125 should be standard values for recordRate if the hardware can do it. The fractional sample rates are that way because early CD players were based on color TV crystals for frequency stability. Because they were around already in the millions and cheap. Also video tape machines were the only devices around that had the bandwidth to record audio digitally at the time. The digital audio had to be turned into an analog video signal to record on tape! You could look at it on a video monitor. And again these numbers below are 'standard' bit widths. 32 24 16 8 -- recordSampleSize I don't know how rev would store an 11 bit wide word without waste. Computers store info in their nice 8-wide world. It comes down to parts and sanity. There are packing methods to do this - is that's what's happening here? Try a test. See if there is no difference in file size between using 11 bit and 16 bit wide for RecordSampleSize - which is NOT the sample rate by the way - it is the width of the word describing the voltage of the waveform at that slice of time) -- the sample rate is actually set by the recordRate property typical Rev misleading property and command names. At least there's no DestroyRecording command. If I used the sound features I would immediately bounce the params from my own well-named commands and call them what I like. Also define with standard rates in constants. sqb Amazing... Stephen... I really don't know much about this... I mean I don't know theactually audio physics between bits and sampling rates. Of course sample rates seems obvious... how often the recorder is trapping for sound, but how that relates to 'bits is mysterious... anyway... just going with what you said: on recordSound set the recordsamplesize to 11 set the recordrate to 5 set the recordformat to wave record sound file gAudioTestPath end recordSound I'm getting really decent quality at about 15 K per second or 900 K per minute i.e. 11 seconds gives us a 168 K file... I don't think it gets any better than that! And you seem to have declared the bottom threshold... as anything less than a sample rate of 11 starts to break down noticeably... I guess everyone has figured this out long ago... Sivakatirswami -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
On May 16, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I just re-discovered something that might be helpful to others, so here goes. Bottom line: To simplify your code and your life, use JPG images, not PNGs, in stacks intended for cross-platform use. That way you don't have to mess with the screenGamma property to make everything look the same everywhere. Situation: I have a gray PNG file whose only color is 145,145,145 no matter what tool you use, Mac or PC, to get the color info. Even from within OSX Rev, if the image file is opened in another app underneath Rev, I can use the color ppicker's magnifying glass to get the color - still 145,145,145. Then I imported the image into a Rev stack. Boom! The color picker's magnifying glass now says the color in the Rev image object is 123,123,123. What happened? What happened was the screenGamma, since my image is a PNG file. Rev's screenGamma is a color? or brightness? or ??? adjustment factor applied only to PNG files. The screenGamma defaults are 1.7 for Mac and 2.2 for Windows. (I don't know what they are for Linux.) I then used a graphics tool to convert it to JPG, and re-imported it into a Rev stack. The new image object's color is 145,145,145. Cause identified! You can always set the screenGamma and stick with the wonderful transparency features that exist in the .png format. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
Hi Mark, Yes - there are certainly some great reasons to use PNGs. My comments really only apply in a particular context, even though I state them as absolute. :o) I'm really good at that. Phil Mark Talluto wrote: On May 16, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I just re-discovered something that might be helpful to others, so here goes. Bottom line: To simplify your code and your life, use JPG images, not PNGs, in stacks intended for cross-platform use. That way you don't have to mess with the screenGamma property to make everything look the same everywhere. Situation: I have a gray PNG file whose only color is 145,145,145 no matter what tool you use, Mac or PC, to get the color info. Even from within OSX Rev, if the image file is opened in another app underneath Rev, I can use the color ppicker's magnifying glass to get the color - still 145,145,145. Then I imported the image into a Rev stack. Boom! The color picker's magnifying glass now says the color in the Rev image object is 123,123,123. What happened? What happened was the screenGamma, since my image is a PNG file. Rev's screenGamma is a color? or brightness? or ??? adjustment factor applied only to PNG files. The screenGamma defaults are 1.7 for Mac and 2.2 for Windows. (I don't know what they are for Linux.) I then used a graphics tool to convert it to JPG, and re-imported it into a Rev stack. The new image object's color is 145,145,145. Cause identified! You can always set the screenGamma and stick with the wonderful transparency features that exist in the .png format. Mark Talluto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Server permissions - CORRECTED
Ken, Very cool. I will give it a try and let you know. Bill On May 16, 2006, at 6:06 AM, Ken Ray wrote: On 5/15/06 10:27 PM, Bill Vlahos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I determine the permissions on a server share/volume? I would like to document the server permissions on our file servers (both Mac OS X Server and Windows 2000 and 2003 servers). OK, forget my last email... Rev can do this itself! Simply point the defaultFolder to the folder you're looking at, and get the detailed files. In the resulting list, the 10th item (I believe) is the file permissions... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
Phil Davis wrote: What happened was the screenGamma, since my image is a PNG file. Rev's screenGamma is a color? or brightness? or ??? adjustment factor applied only to PNG files. The screenGamma defaults are 1.7 for Mac and 2.2 for Windows. (I don't know what they are for Linux.) I then used a graphics tool to convert it to JPG, and re-imported it into a Rev stack. The new image object's color is 145,145,145. Cause identified! While the cause is identified, I'm unable to identify the logic behind it. Screen gamma is a function of display, not file format. GraphicConverter doesn't shift the colors when it displays PNGs. Rev doesn't alter the display of JPEGs or GIFs -- why single out PNGs in this way, and why try to adjust for screen gamma when the screen is already doing anything that needs to be done there? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
On May 16, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Phil Davis wrote: What happened was the screenGamma, since my image is a PNG file. Rev's screenGamma is a color? or brightness? or ??? adjustment factor applied only to PNG files. The screenGamma defaults are 1.7 for Mac and 2.2 for Windows. (I don't know what they are for Linux.) I then used a graphics tool to convert it to JPG, and re-imported it into a Rev stack. The new image object's color is 145,145,145. Cause identified! While the cause is identified, I'm unable to identify the logic behind it. Screen gamma is a function of display, not file format. GraphicConverter doesn't shift the colors when it displays PNGs. Rev doesn't alter the display of JPEGs or GIFs -- why single out PNGs in this way, and why try to adjust for screen gamma when the screen is already doing anything that needs to be done there? This is a question that goes way back to the good Dr. Raney. I remember having a discussion with him about it. The details are fuzzy, but they went something like this: That is the way it is. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: Rev doesn't alter the display of JPEGs or GIFs -- why single out PNGs in this way, and why try to adjust for screen gamma when the screen is already doing anything that needs to be done there? I don't have the document links I used to, but suffice it to say, in the attempt to be consistent across platforms and displays, the display of PNG images is inconsistent by their nature, and this has been documented. Rev isn't doing anything to alter the display of PNGs (as far as I know). In fact, it may not be doing enough to take advantage of gamma information stored in the file format, but again, the problem occurs in other apps, not just Rev (even in Photoshop CS1, not sure about CS2). The workarounds are: - if possible, make the background of the PNG transparent so that it can sit seamlessly on whatever is behind it - if you have a a solid color background in your PNG that must match another non-PNG color, you can try modifying the solid color by a few degrees in the PNG, or in the object to which the PNG must match - as Phil suggested, use a different format: JPEG or GIF Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images in cross-platform stacks
On May 16, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Rev doesn't alter the display of JPEGs or GIFs -- why single out PNGs in this way, and why try to adjust for screen gamma when the screen is already doing anything that needs to be done there? and Mark Talluto wrote: This is a question that goes way back to the good Dr. Raney. I remember having a discussion with him about it. The details are fuzzy, but they went something like this: That is the way it is. I seem to remember something too in the dim past. PNGs, I know, contain gamma info in their headers in contrast to JPEGs, which may not. The info is used by rev to display consistent gamma cross-platform. In the present, I take advantage of it because it shows, on the Mac, the gamma I can expect in Windows. My applications are wall-to-wall images. I use FireWorks to make most of my images and set it to display Windows gamma. I achieve better control over contrast because I see what (most of) the end users will get. It's on purpose! tereza -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. 800 Water Street Sauk City, WI 53583 608.643.2586 AIM: terezasnyder1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
