Re: Use of Phonetic Script

2006-08-18 Thread Dar Scott


On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Cat Kutay wrote:

I am trying to compare phonetic script from the htmlText of a card,  
and in a database. However the htmlText im meoory seems to lose the  
unicode formating, and also displaying messages for error do not  
have the formatting


Concerning the displaying of messages, the Revolution command  
dictionary entry for 'answer' includes this paragraph:


 The prompt can be either formatted text (in the htmlText  
property's format)

 or plain text. If the prompt contains p or a start/end tag pair,
 the answer command assumes the text is in the same format as the
 htmlText property. Otherwise, the answer command assumes the text
 is plain text.

So, if you are using 'answer' to display messages with the special  
characters, try wrapping the text with p.



Concerning the loss of unicode in memory, I have assumed IPA for the  
phonetic script and tried this:


on mouseUp
  set the useUnicode to true
  -- IPA for er in some dialects of English
  set the unicodeText of field field to numToChar(0x025A)
  put the htmlText of field field
end mouseUp

That put this into the message box:

pfont face=Lucida Grande lang=ja#602;/font/p

(Don't worry about the ja; Revolution thinks everything is Japanese.)

The IPA er is represented by the #602.  Notice that the number  
is now in decimal, not in hexadecimal.



I have seen Revolution get confused about diacritical marks, so if  
there are combining marks in your phonetic notation, then there might  
be a problem.  For example, I tried to modify the above handler to  
display a dental t, but the diacritic did not display and it was  
isolated from the t in the htmlText.



If the database uses UTF-16 or UTF-18 rather than the number for the  
character or a character encoding other than Unicode, then you might  
have trouble with the comparison.


If you want Unicode text, then use the unicodeText property.  That is  
UTF-16 in host byte order.  You can convert that to UTF-8 with the  
uniDecode() function.  Look at 'unicodeText' and 'uniDecode' in the  
Revolution dictionary.



I might have misunderstood the problem.  Please ask again if that is  
the case.


Dar Scott



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Re: Line numbers in scripteditor?

2006-08-18 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi all,

I could not resist: there is a very simple solution:

on selectionChanged
  if the short name of the owner of the target = revScript \
and the short name of the selectedfield = script then
put word 2 of the selectedLine into fld GoLine
  end if
  pass selectionChanged
end selectionChanged

Paste this handler into the revCommon back script and save it.
The Go line box will be interactive: allowing to go to any line or  
displaying the number of the current clicked line.


Le 17 août 06 à 05:55, Dan Shafer a écrit :


Nope.
You can:

(1) copy-paste and do your script editing in BBEdit on OS X or some  
other

editor on Windows.
(2) switch to Galaxy from Daniels-Mara which, if memory serves,  
does include

this ability.

On 8/16/06, William de Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there,

Is it possible to show line numbers in the scripteditor?
If it is I don't know how to show them.

greetings,

William (from a sunny Holland)
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Best Regards from Paris,
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Re: Line numbers in scripteditor?

2006-08-18 Thread André.Bisseret

Bonjour Éric,
I am very happy to read you again here !
Nice weather on this list to day :-))), thanks to William
I hope others will post questions that you will not resist to answer  
to ;-))



Best regards from Grenoble
André


Le 18 août 06 à 09:13, Eric Chatonet a écrit :


Hi all,

I could not resist: there is a very simple solution:

on selectionChanged
  if the short name of the owner of the target = revScript \
and the short name of the selectedfield = script then
put word 2 of the selectedLine into fld GoLine
  end if
  pass selectionChanged
end selectionChanged

Paste this handler into the revCommon back script and save it.
The Go line box will be interactive: allowing to go to any line  
or displaying the number of the current clicked line.


Le 17 août 06 à 05:55, Dan Shafer a écrit :


Nope.
You can:

(1) copy-paste and do your script editing in BBEdit on OS X or  
some other

editor on Windows.
(2) switch to Galaxy from Daniels-Mara which, if memory serves,  
does include

this ability.

On 8/16/06, William de Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there,

Is it possible to show line numbers in the scripteditor?
If it is I don't know how to show them.

greetings,

William (from a sunny Holland)
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Eric Chatonet
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Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread David Glasgow


Thanks Phil, Howard and Peter.

I can't get Phil's script to work any better, even with messages 
locked.  Howard's seems fine even without.


This suggests that the problem with Phil's is not a recursion caused by 
set mousescreenloc, because Howard uses that too.  (Ironically, my 
original Rev 1.x script used if thens, so maybe I should have just 
resurrected that).


Unless there is a further contribution explaining and fixing the jerky 
cursor with Phil's script, I declare the Howard method the preferred 
technique for doing a thing you oughn't ;-))




Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk


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Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread David Glasgow

..and another interesting thing.

Having played with Howards Way (heh!) a little, I find that there are 
strange 'weaknesses' near the corners of the rect through which you can 
sneak the pointer a little way until the script spots the breakout and 
does its thing.


How weird is that?

Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk


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Re: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread David Glasgow

I promise this is the last interesting thing

The script works even if Rev isn't the frontmost application, as long 
as there are no windows between the front and the Rev stack.  I found 
my pointer a prisoner when I was in Mail!


Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk


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RE: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread Jan Sælid
Hi David, I sent you another suggestion. Maybe it slipped through. Try it.
It's stable. Just put this into the script of a button or rectangle.  Try it

---
local constrain,boxL,boxR,boxT,boxB

ON mouseDown
put item 1 of rect of me+4 into boxL -- change 4 to your own needs
put item 3 of rect of me-4 into boxR -- change 4
put item 2 of rect of me+4 into boxT -- change 4
put item 4 of rect of me-4 into boxB -- change 4
put true into constrain
END mouseDown

ON mouseMove x,y
IF not constrain THEN exit mouseMove
set the screenmouseloc to \
globalloc(min(boxR,max(boxL,(x)))  , min(boxB,max(boxT,(y
END mouseMove

ON mouseUp
put false into constrain
END mouseUp

ON mouseRelease
mouseUp
END mouseRelease

---


Jan

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Re: Print Card Missing Objects?

2006-08-18 Thread Jim Ault
 And while we're on the subject - I am basically filling in a form and
 then copying the filled in form to a new card.  This should be done
 over 200 times, resulting in over 200 cards.  However, by the time I
 reach 20-25 cards, the stack becomes VERY lethargic and even after
 the script has finished (for 25 cards it takes about 1.5 minutes),
 the stack is super super slow.  I don't have too many cards and I
 should be able to have the 200 I want, right?  Any ideas on why it's
 so slow?  It's basically just fields and buttons.
full post below
Quick reply, since I have little time this morning and am not familiar with
the printing issues in Rev.

Point 1.  Design the fields and buttons on a card that you want to use for
all 200 cards and group them.  Now, while in pointer mode, select the group,
go into the inspector and choose Behave like a background.  This will mean
that if you are in browse mode, looking at this card and choose New Card
from the menu, the new card will also have this group.

At this point, the fields will be blank, since each card can hold different
information.  You may have a field that is a set of instructions that you
want to appear on every card and when you make a change, it will change on
every card.  To do this, go into pointer mode, select the group, choose
'edit group', select the field, then in the inspector choose 'share text'.

You could already know this, but when you say 'copy the filled form to
another card', this sounds like a counter-productive technique.  If you want
the field contents to be copied to the next card, I would suggest a small
utility script such as

 repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
put field x of the previous card into field x
  end repeat


To make 200 cards try

repeat 200 times
lock screen
new card
repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
  put field x of the previous card into field x
end repeat
  end repeat

By the way, do know Devin Asay at BYU?  He is a very accomplished Rev guy
and does a lot to help others on this list.
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

Hope this helps

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 8/17/06 10:28 PM, Sharon Stamps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's my problem - I am setting up a stack and then printing all the
 cards.  I have been testing the printing feature to make sure it
 looks right before printing over 200 cards at a time.  As I have been
 testing, parts of my card have gone missing - on one printout I have
 a line in my table field, the next printout I don't;  I have an image
 on the lower right hand corner that prints every time, but the group
 of buttons to the left of it doesn't print out at all.  Between
 printings I have changed the data I am importing, but nothing in the
 stack itself.  (Although I did try to move the group of buttons to
 see if I could get them to show up in the printout)  I didn't know I
 would run into this problem and I need a solution ASAP!  Can anyone
 help?
 
 And while we're on the subject - I am basically filling in a form and
 then copying the filled in form to a new card.  This should be done
 over 200 times, resulting in over 200 cards.  However, by the time I
 reach 20-25 cards, the stack becomes VERY lethargic and even after
 the script has finished (for 25 cards it takes about 1.5 minutes),
 the stack is super super slow.  I don't have too many cards and I
 should be able to have the 200 I want, right?  Any ideas on why it's
 so slow?  It's basically just fields and buttons.
 
 Thanks a bunch in advance!
 
 Sharon
 
 
 _
 Sharon Stamps
 Testing Specialist
 English Language Center
 Brigham Young University
 (801) 319-7907
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread David Glasgow



On 18 Aug 2006, at 1:31 pm, Jan Sælid wrote:

Hi David, I sent you another suggestion. Maybe it slipped through. Try 
it.
It's stable. Just put this into the script of a button or rectangle.  
Try it


Thanks, Jan.  It is very jerky and slow here.  Maybe this is an OS X 
thing?  I am using Panther, G4 iMac/TiBook.



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Re: Plugins folder? (was Re: How Galaxy is...)

2006-08-18 Thread Robert Sneidar
Oddly though, my Galaxy Studio did not work in this configuration. I  
had to move the Galaxy folder and stack to the Applications/ 
Revolution Studio/2.7.3-gm-1/Plugins folder to get it to load  
automatically. I don't know why.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM


As to where it is documented, I'm not sure.  Perhaps in a 2.7.?
read me file?


I found it.  It was hidden under Distribution Structure:

There is a new directory structure.  The customization folder is
in Documents/My
Revolution [edition], and contains subfolders:
  Plug ins now load from Plugins folder
  Database drivers now load from Database Drivers folder
  Externals now load from Externals folder
  External  database drivers loaded here are picked up by
Standalone Builder
  Object Libraries now stored in Resources/Object Libraries
  Image Libraries now stored in Resources/Image Libraries
Files placed in these folders will override the files installed
in the main Revolution
installation directory.  Thus all of these components will
survive an update to the
main Revolution install.

Hmmm.  I assume that by externals, it means revolution externals.

Dar Scott



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Rev cgi gzip HTML data to browser

2006-08-18 Thread jbv
Hi list,

Has anyone tried to send compress data (gzip) from Rev cgi to a browser
?
I've spent the afternoon experimenting with this, and it works quite
well
(compress() squeezes 1 Mb of HTML data into 120 Kb), but it seems that
the browser takes forever to decompress the code... And finally, there's
no
real gain, since the time saved in downloading data is lost when browser

decompresses data...

Is there any trick / tip ?
I had the feeling that decompress routines embeded in the browser (IE6
Win)
would be much faster, at least as fast as the decompress() function in
Rev...
Sure, my Win box is a bit slow (Athlon 1.46 GHz), but nevertheless...

Thanks,
JB

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Top 5 Articles at revJournal.com

2006-08-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
I was reviewing the hit logs for revJournal.com today, and discovered 
that the top 5 most frequently accessed articles there are, in order:



#1: Using Imported Images in Your Stack
by Sandy Beadle
http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/importing-images-in-revolution.html

#2: Making of ArcadeEngine
by Malte Brill
http://www.revjournal.com/features/arcade-engine.html

#3: Everything You Know Is Wrong, Part 1
by Mark Wieder, Ah Software
http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/everything-you-know.html

#4: Handy Handlers #5: Pack/Unpack
by yours truly
http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/handy-handlers-005.html

#5: Saving data in Revolution standalones
by Sarah Reichelt
http://www.revjournal.com/tutorials/saving_data_in_revolution.html


If you haven't read these yet I think you'll find them very useful.

Many thanks to these authors and the others who've contributed to 
revJournal.


As a community-driven effort, revJournal relies on submissions like 
these from Rev developers who want to share their knowledge to help 
others.  If you'd like to contribute an article to the growing knowledge 
base there, just drop me a note anytime.  And don't worry if you're not 
a professional developer -- the #1 article at revJournal was submitted 
by an educator who learned a few tips about working with images and 
wanted to pass those along (good work, Sandy).


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Managing Editor, revJournal
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How to find which applications for this file?

2006-08-18 Thread Joel Guillod
From a file path or a file extension or a MIME type, how can we get  
a list of the applications which can open the corresponding file?


The launch document filepath can open the corresponding  
application like a double-click in the Finder/Windows Explorer. But  
has anyone some tricks to get a list of compatible application for a  
file or MIME: Applescript (on MacOSX) or shell commands (MacOSX,  
Windows, Linux)?


Thanks for each appropriate reply!
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HTML email from Rev

2006-08-18 Thread David Bovill

Quick question - client wants to able to send emails with images and links.
Attachments do not show up reliably. Different email clients show things
different ways - what is the best way to do this so it works? What are the
steps to get Rev to create and send rich email that shows correctly in the
majority of email clients?
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Problems with standalonebuilder of Rev.2.7.3.?

2006-08-18 Thread Martin Meili

Hi
I've got a stack I can tax my students in terms of different language 
skills with (sliders, text fields in combination with sliders). The 
program runs very fast on my PowerPC, OS 10.3.9. I store the data of 
each student in textfiles. They are reloadable in my taxation panel.


If I use Revolution 2.7.2  and have a standalone for the intel-32 
processor built , the program runs sufficiently, that means, it's 
slower than on the PowerPC, but every feature of the program works as I 
want it to do.


If I use Revolution 2.7.3, it seems to be faster, but storing data 
doesn't work anymore. There must be something wrong with the path, and 
the sliders in combination with the textfields don't work anymore. You 
can enter data into the texfields using the ask dialogue, but the 
thumbposition of the sliders don't change.


What's wrong here? Has anybody had the same or other problems with the 
Rev.2.7.3. standalone builder?


Martin

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Re: Print Card Missing Objects?

2006-08-18 Thread Sharon Stamps

Jim,

	Thanks for the help - I thought of this, but decided it might be  
counter-productive, because I didn't want to have to create all the  
cards before copying the info.  I have fields, buttons, and graphics  
that need to be located in a certain place on each different form, so  
having the group placed on the card would mean that I would have to  
run the script to each card to accomplish that, right?  I really  
appreciate the suggestion.  And actually, I went ahead and built the  
standalone and the copying process was speedy (less than a minute for  
200 cards).  For some reason, it was just a problem with doing it in  
the revolution environment.  I also worked around my printing  
appearance issues by just printing to a pdf and then printing the  
pdf.  Not completely efficient, but I needed a quick solution and  
that was the one.  I'm still wondering why the problem occurs when  
revolution prints...
	Thanks for recommending Devin - he's actually one of main reasons  
why I use revolution and why I even started programming at all!  I  
gave him a ring as soon as I ran into my problems - but he's out of  
the office until the 22nd.  I was hoping he or one of you would read  
this and respond.   :)  And Devin, if you see this, I'd really  
appreciate it if you wouldn't schedule being gone right when I need  
advice :)


Thanks again!

Sharon

On Aug 18, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Jim Ault wrote:


And while we're on the subject - I am basically filling in a form and
then copying the filled in form to a new card.  This should be done
over 200 times, resulting in over 200 cards.  However, by the time I
reach 20-25 cards, the stack becomes VERY lethargic and even after
the script has finished (for 25 cards it takes about 1.5 minutes),
the stack is super super slow.  I don't have too many cards and I
should be able to have the 200 I want, right?  Any ideas on why it's
so slow?  It's basically just fields and buttons.

full post below
Quick reply, since I have little time this morning and am not  
familiar with

the printing issues in Rev.

Point 1.  Design the fields and buttons on a card that you want to  
use for
all 200 cards and group them.  Now, while in pointer mode, select  
the group,
go into the inspector and choose Behave like a background.  This  
will mean
that if you are in browse mode, looking at this card and choose  
New Card

from the menu, the new card will also have this group.

At this point, the fields will be blank, since each card can hold  
different
information.  You may have a field that is a set of instructions  
that you
want to appear on every card and when you make a change, it will  
change on
every card.  To do this, go into pointer mode, select the group,  
choose
'edit group', select the field, then in the inspector choose 'share  
text'.


You could already know this, but when you say 'copy the filled form to
another card', this sounds like a counter-productive technique.  If  
you want
the field contents to be copied to the next card, I would suggest a  
small

utility script such as

 repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
put field x of the previous card into field x
  end repeat


To make 200 cards try

repeat 200 times
lock screen
new card
repeat with x = 1 to the number of fields
  put field x of the previous card into field x
end repeat
  end repeat

By the way, do know Devin Asay at BYU?  He is a very accomplished  
Rev guy

and does a lot to help others on this list.
Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

Hope this helps

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 8/17/06 10:28 PM, Sharon Stamps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here's my problem - I am setting up a stack and then printing all the
cards.  I have been testing the printing feature to make sure it
looks right before printing over 200 cards at a time.  As I have been
testing, parts of my card have gone missing - on one printout I have
a line in my table field, the next printout I don't;  I have an image
on the lower right hand corner that prints every time, but the group
of buttons to the left of it doesn't print out at all.  Between
printings I have changed the data I am importing, but nothing in the
stack itself.  (Although I did try to move the group of buttons to
see if I could get them to show up in the printout)  I didn't know I
would run into this problem and I need a solution ASAP!  Can anyone
help?

And while we're on the subject - I am basically filling in a form and
then copying the filled in form to a new card.  This should be done
over 200 times, resulting in over 200 cards.  However, by the time I
reach 20-25 cards, the stack becomes VERY lethargic and even after
the script has finished (for 25 cards it takes about 1.5 minutes),
the stack is super super slow.  I don't have too many cards and I
should be able to have the 200 I want, right?  Any ideas on why it's
so slow?  It's basically just fields and buttons.

Thanks a bunch in advance!


Re: How to find which applications for this file?

2006-08-18 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I wanted to do the same on Mac OS X,  it seems the only api for such a 
thing is the Carbon one: Launch services
I made a command line standalone that facilitates it with filepaths. I 
can send it to you if you want it (no source code).


the usage is:
path to app -default path to file
gives back the standard application
path to app -all path to file
gives back all the apps that claim to open up the file.

to use it from rev you'd do this:
shell(test -all /Users/Test/Desktop/test.rev)

On Aug 18 2006, at 18:14, Joel Guillod wrote:

From a file path or a file extension or a MIME type, how can we get a 
list of the applications which can open the corresponding file?


The launch document filepath can open the corresponding 
application like a double-click in the Finder/Windows Explorer. But 
has anyone some tricks to get a list of compatible application for a 
file or MIME: Applescript (on MacOSX) or shell commands (MacOSX, 
Windows, Linux)?


Thanks for each appropriate reply!
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RE: Constraining the pointer within a rect

2006-08-18 Thread Jan Sælid
David,
It must be the screenmouseloc that slows the mac. As stated earlier. I guess
that is practical to know. I have always used tips from the free stacks of
Tactile Media. In their dragsample stack, they explain that it's always more
efficient to compare variables instead of repeatedly testing the object's
dimensions/position. That's why the dimensions and limits is set outside the
mousemove handler in my example.

I'll think of a way to replace the screenmouseloc.


David wrote
Thanks, Jan.  It is very jerky and slow here.  Maybe this is an OS X thing?
I am using Panther, G4 iMac/TiBook.


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