Re: Making an Image
Bridger Maxwell wrote: woops, I wrote that last email before I read carefully. Please disregard that. On 11/1/06, Bridger Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a more effective way, besides the imageData? Besides using "the text" (which I never use for images, it sounds too weird) you can also do this: put image 2 into image 1 This feels more xtalk-y to me. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon - How To Increase Rev Profile
At 5:51 PM -0600 11/1/06, J. Landman Gay wrote: Kay C Lan wrote: I understand that EuroRevCon will be starting shortly. (Lucki). I'm sure one of the 'between seminar' chat topics will be why Rev isn't as popular as it should be and what can be done to put it into the lime light. Here's one option: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqa9zE9-_Sw I guess maybe Kevin could specify a RevCon dress code from now on:-) Wouldn't help here in Malta...everyone dresses like that here. Even all those thousands of 18 year old Swedish students that are here to learn English dress like that. You people don't know what you are missing by not attending the EuroRevCon. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making an Image
woops, I wrote that last email before I read carefully. Please disregard that. On 11/1/06, Bridger Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a more effective way, besides the imageData? On 11/1/06, Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote: > > > How can I make one image look like another image? I set the > > imageData of > > img 2 to the imageData of img 1, but that got really weird. > > set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1 > > > What other data > > makes up an image? > > the rectangle > the imageData > the alphaData > > Y' gotta get the size (and shape) right if you need to use imageData. > > Dar > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making an Image
Is there a more effective way, besides the imageData? On 11/1/06, Dar Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote: > How can I make one image look like another image? I set the > imageData of > img 2 to the imageData of img 1, but that got really weird. set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1 > What other data > makes up an image? the rectangle the imageData the alphaData Y' gotta get the size (and shape) right if you need to use imageData. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making an Image
On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote: How can I make one image look like another image? I set the imageData of img 2 to the imageData of img 1, but that got really weird. set the text of img 2 to the text of img 1 What other data makes up an image? the rectangle the imageData the alphaData Y' gotta get the size (and shape) right if you need to use imageData. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having problems with numberformat....
On Nov 1, 2006, at 8:57 PM, David Bovill wrote: Well I am stuck. I have not idea why it does not work. I cannot pass these 12 place decimals as parameters and why the script below does not work beats me :( By the way, the numberFormat setting is not needed for a level of arithmetic accuracy. The result of arithmetic is always about 15 digits. The numberFormat comes into play the first time the result of arithmetic is used as text. The result of arithmetic will also pass as parameters just fine (though converted to text with numberFormat coming into play when passed using send). Literals do not need the zeros out to 12 places. So numberFormat is not used until the final result is put into the message box. This should generate the same result: on mouseDoubleUp put 0.006911491563 into projectedWidth get -1 * projectedWidth set the numberformat to "#." put it end mouseDoubleUp Maybe you have some similar handler in a front script or in a button or something that is fooling with this. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making an Image
Hey, How can I make one image look like another image? I set the imageData of img 2 to the imageData of img 1, but that got really weird. What other data makes up an image? TTFN Bridger ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formatting data
I get it, you have designed a table with a field as each cell.
Part of the catch to this is that you have to rely on the naming scheme of
the cells (fields) to get the data. the following will construct all the
possible names of the cell-fields and load the values into the proper place
in the output, then remove the empty lines.
I am leaving the commas in so you can view the empty cells, if any.
on testt
put empty
put the number of fields into maxx
repeat with cc = 1 to maxx
repeat with rr = 1 to maxx
if there is a fld ("c"&cc&"r"&rr) then
put fld ("c"&cc&"r"&rr) into item cc of line rr of combinedValues
put cc && rr & cr after msg
end if
end repeat
end repeat
filter combinedValues without empty
put combinedValues after msg
--replace comma with space in combinedValues
--put combinedValues into fld combinedOutput
end testt
Modify this to suit your needs.
Jim Ault
Las Vegas
On 11/1/06 5:40 PM, "Robert Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim
> what I have is a to columns of fields with many rows
> fld c1r1 would have 6 in it
> fld c2r1 would have 25 in it
> fld c1r2 and c2r2 would have nothing in them
> fld c1r3 and c2r3 would have nothing in them
> fld c1r4 would have 4 in it
> fld c2r4 would have 26 in it
> fld c1r5 would have 3 in it
> fld c2r5 would have 22 in it
> so if you were looking at the fields you would see
> 6 25
> empty flds
> empty flds
> 4 26
> 3 22
>
> what I would like to be able to do is put the data into a new fld
> reformatted like this without the empty flds
> 6 25
> 4 26
> 3 22
>
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Re: Having problems with numberformat....
On Nov 1, 2006, at 8:57 PM, David Bovill wrote: Well I am stuck. I have not idea why it does not work. I cannot pass these 12 place decimals as parameters and why the script below does not work beats me :( This works fine for me. I'm on PPC OS X 10.4.7 using Rev 2.7.4. I hope that is a clue. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having problems with numberformat....
Hi David, I was able to replicate your result, but it seems to be related to putting the value into the message box. If I do this: set the numberformat to "#." put 0.006911491563 into projectedWidth put -1. * projectedWidth into field 1 Then "field 1" contains -0.006911491563 HTH, Sarah On 11/2/06, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well I am stuck. I have not idea why it does not work. I cannot pass these 12 place decimals as parameters and why the script below does not work beats me :( On 01/11/06, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am puzzled... I"m dealing with numbers to 12 decimal places, so when > doing maths on them I nedd to set the number format first to deal with this > level of accuracy - fine, except I can"t figure it - sometimes it is working > and sometimes not :( > > Here is my test script: > > on mouseDoubleUp > set the numberformat to "#." > put 0.006911491563 into projectedWidth > put -1. * projectedWidth > end mouseDoubleUp > > When I pasted this on a new stacks card script and doule click I get: > > -0.006911 > > When I paste the 3 lines of the handler into the message box - I get what > i would expect: > > -0.006911491563 > > Why??? > > > > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Having problems with numberformat....
Well I am stuck. I have not idea why it does not work. I cannot pass these 12 place decimals as parameters and why the script below does not work beats me :( On 01/11/06, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am puzzled... I"m dealing with numbers to 12 decimal places, so when doing maths on them I nedd to set the number format first to deal with this level of accuracy - fine, except I can"t figure it - sometimes it is working and sometimes not :( Here is my test script: on mouseDoubleUp set the numberformat to "#." put 0.006911491563 into projectedWidth put -1. * projectedWidth end mouseDoubleUp When I pasted this on a new stacks card script and doule click I get: -0.006911 When I paste the 3 lines of the handler into the message box - I get what i would expect: -0.006911491563 Why??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dollars vs Pounds
Kay C Lan wrote: I probably should address this to Heather, but I guess she will be off enjoying Malta. No, she'll be around. Why do I get Newsletters that specify deals in U$, but when I go to the Rev Store it is in £, The store you see depends on your IP address. IPs seem to have changed lately, and RR had to update their internal IP lists (I was seeing pounds for a while too.) If you write Heather she can help. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] UK Airport Info
Cheers UK List Folks: After a canceled flight today, I find myself in need of getting from Heathrow Airport to Luton. Might any of you know 1) what kind of distance I am facing and 2) if there is any public transportation I can take to get to Luton from Heathrow? The next leg of my flight leaves in about an hour and a half... Thanks & Regards, - Scott Rossi Tactile Media ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Quicktime Issues Wiki
Wonderful post! "Don't look for QT to replace Flash across the board. It won't. " Fair enough. Having done a miniscule bit of work in Flash, they are certainly worlds apart and having the expectation that QT should to what Flash does "across the board" is probably too much to ask... Your post would indicate "all is well with QT, just don't expect to make chapatis with it." But I think Stephan's original point though is still good, answer to Greg's issues: identify some subset of functions we would like to have in QT that are now only available in Flash and tell Apple about it. e.g. I didn't see any reference to SMIL (my chapati) in the "Directions and Shifts of Emphasis in Quicktime 7" (yes -- very interesting and encouraging to read that...) Goal would be: to use XML to "talk" to the video region in a streamed context in ways that can be scripted vs sitting in Final Cut Pro and building it all into a single .mov file. If QT SMIL support is not advancing, is there an alternative that accomplishes the same thing? I guess that is a question for Apple. Re the streaming problem on some of our windows users machines. I've isolated it to differences in connectivity that QT player can handle, but which the Rev Player object cannot. I'm going to get a bit more info from our users and will post a BugZilla on it when we have the data... I'm not privy to the depth of relationship between Rev Engineers and Apples QT team, but would hope that it got really "tight." to help solve such issues. You main point is good: QT looks very healthy on both platforms for the future, no need to "fret." Especially if one is going to create desktop apps then the Revolution Framework with QT embedded will let us do just about anything we want that we might try in Flash... (linux?? is another story...) Sivakatirswami Trevor DeVore wrote: On Nov 1, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I was just shaking the tree to see if any mangoes would fall out. Aha! there's one from Trevor. Of course QT is not dead. It's a question of whether it has a pulse or is just there as a delivery window that may or may not work, depending"is an architecture that enhances the playback environment, be in browser or desktop application." as you put it... that's simply not enough...the API has to be solid, cross platform stable, documented, moving forward... (viz-a-viz our other thread on streaming failures on Windows...) Hi Sivakatirswami, Here are some of my comments in regards to your points above, though the first one relates to what Greg was looking for. When QuickTime 3 added an interactivity layer it interested a lot of people. QuickTime 4 and 5 saw some enhancements to the interactivity layer but it was clear that this was not Apple's primary focus with the QT technology. Greg's comments seemed to deal with this area of QuickTime. Don't look for QT to replace Flash across the board. It won't. There are some projects where the interactive layer of QT adds a lot of nice benefits though. Regarding the QT API - QuickTime has a very solid and robust API. Like any framework it has it's bugs it is used in a lot of applications on both Windows and OS X. iTunes relies on QuickTime so you know Apple is putting time into making audio/video work really well on Windows, whether progressively downloading or playing locally. Regarding documentation - Though documentation wasn't always great in the past, QT documentation has seen major improvements lately. New articles are being posted at http://developer.apple.com/quicktime/ on a regular basis. Regarding moving forward - Take a look at the QuickTime 7.1 Update Guide at http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/Conceptual/QT7-1_Update_Guide/index.html. In particular, look for the section entitled "Directions and Shifts of Emphasis in QuickTime 7". Also take a look at "Advantages For Windows Developers". One major enhhttp://www.hitsquad.com/smm/mac/KEYBOARDS_ON_PC/ancement for QT video playback on Windows was the visual context support for Direct3D. QuickTime is trying to embrace the technologies of each platform (OpenGL support was added in a previous QT 7 release) so it can perform better. Regarding the streaming failure - As you know, this problem some of your testers have experienced is very difficult to pin down and has not been reproduced by anyone else so it is very hard to fix. The movies play in QT Player and browsers but report an obscure error when running in Rev. While this is definitely something that people want to see fixed I don't think we can interpret this as meaning that QT is not moving forward. Also regarding whether Rev will be in synch with QuickTime in 2009 - QuickTime is a framework that is meant to be used in other applications. It is a HUGE framework but luckily Rev only has to support basic playback and expose certain properties (like movieControllerID). Anyone can then use those p
Re: resizeQuality
On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Nov 1, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Dar Scott wrote: How do I use this? For improved resizing quality the property of an image object to "best". You need to set it each time your launch your standalone. AFAICT it isn't something that "sticks". By the way, I think this only does anything on Windows. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: resizeQuality
On Nov 1, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Dar Scott wrote: How do I use this? For improved resizing quality the property of an image object to "best". You need to set it each time your launch your standalone. AFAICT it isn't something that "sticks". -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Dollars vs Pounds
I probably should address this to Heather, but I guess she will be off enjoying Malta. Why do I get Newsletters that specify deals in U$, but when I go to the Rev Store it is in £, which would be OK except for the fact that £ amount is about 25% more expensive than the U$ in the Newsletter. I understand why products will be sold at different prices in different locations, although this has to be one of the bigger disparities I've seen. Also, I live closer to the US than I do to the UK. Is it only US residents that get US prices and everyone else pays UK price? You know what they say, what you don't know can't hurt you - therefore, what you do know can turn you into a real whiner. So cruel to tease me with a deal in U$ that I can't take advantage of :-( ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
off the wall question re supercard standalone
Does rev have the capacity to read a SuperCard standalone? I need to access some data and cannot locate the original stack. Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
resizeQuality
How do I use this? Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Having problems with numberformat....
I am puzzled... I"m dealing with numbers to 12 decimal places, so when doing maths on them I nedd to set the number format first to deal with this level of accuracy - fine, except I can"t figure it - sometimes it is working and sometimes not :( Here is my test script: on mouseDoubleUp set the numberformat to "#." put 0.006911491563 into projectedWidth put -1. * projectedWidth end mouseDoubleUp When I pasted this on a new stacks card script and doule click I get: -0.006911 When I paste the 3 lines of the handler into the message box - I get what i would expect: -0.006911491563 Why??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1
On 10/20/06 4:21 PM, "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Marriott wrote: In general I agree that rev is the tool I like best. But in a way I'm wondering why I see bugs and features reported or requested years ago and aren't addressed yet. And if addressed aren't resolved yet, few of them are very important ones, competitive necessary. > Perhaps, but I am more inclined to suspect that the wrong standalone > engine crept into his Runtime folder somehow. No one else has mentioned > any problems with it. Which is a major, > Months later, I finally was able to pin down the fact that the debugger > didn't work if the stack file path had a comma in it. This turned out to > be the exact same problem that affected the internet library. I wrote to > Dave Cragg and he had a fix for me within a single day. I reported the > same thing to the team and the next release of Revolution had a fix in it. I'm wondering if the "postgers" data base library ( I assume that it applies to all db libraries) Is working now with 2.7.4 ? I put up a question recently regarding this issue. In build 291 it doesn't, its needed to copy and paste the database libraries from version 2.7.1 to get it to work. I think this is a major problem and easy to correct and.. Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: formatting data
Jim what I have is a to columns of fields with many rows fld c1r1 would have 6 in it fld c2r1 would have 25 in it fld c1r2 and c2r2 would have nothing in them fld c1r3 and c2r3 would have nothing in them fld c1r4 would have 4 in it fld c2r4 would have 26 in it fld c1r5 would have 3 in it fld c2r5 would have 22 in it so if you were looking at the fields you would see 6 25 empty flds empty flds 4 26 3 22 what I would like to be able to do is put the data into a new fld reformatted like this without the empty flds 6 25 4 26 3 22 Thanks Robert Mann President GP Racing LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Ault Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:20 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: formatting data On 11/1/06 2:43 PM, "Robert Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet, I > have data in row one C1R1, C2R1(6, 25), no data in rows 2 and 3, data in row > 4 C1R4, C2,R4(4, 26) data in row 5 C1R5, C2R5 (3, 22), > how would I format this data into one continuous column such as > 6 25 > 4 26 > 3 22 > I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet Robert, does this mean one field contains 6, 25 , , 4, 26 3, 22 --or 6, 25 4, 26 3, 22 --or fld 1 fld 2 6 25 4 26 3 22 ??? If it is the first one then filter field "excelData" without ",*" filter field "excelData" without empty replace comma with space in field "excelData" If the second one then filter field "excelData" without empty replace space with empty in field "excelData" replace comma with space in field "excelData" Let me know if you are doing something different than 1 or 2 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Quicktime Issues Wiki
On Nov 1, 2006, at 2:52 AM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I was just shaking the tree to see if any mangoes would fall out. Aha! there's one from Trevor. Of course QT is not dead. It's a question of whether it has a pulse or is just there as a delivery window that may or may not work, depending"is an architecture that enhances the playback environment, be in browser or desktop application." as you put it... that's simply not enough...the API has to be solid, cross platform stable, documented, moving forward... (viz-a-viz our other thread on streaming failures on Windows...) Hi Sivakatirswami, Here are some of my comments in regards to your points above, though the first one relates to what Greg was looking for. When QuickTime 3 added an interactivity layer it interested a lot of people. QuickTime 4 and 5 saw some enhancements to the interactivity layer but it was clear that this was not Apple's primary focus with the QT technology. Greg's comments seemed to deal with this area of QuickTime. Don't look for QT to replace Flash across the board. It won't. There are some projects where the interactive layer of QT adds a lot of nice benefits though. Regarding the QT API - QuickTime has a very solid and robust API. Like any framework it has it's bugs it is used in a lot of applications on both Windows and OS X. iTunes relies on QuickTime so you know Apple is putting time into making audio/video work really well on Windows, whether progressively downloading or playing locally. Regarding documentation - Though documentation wasn't always great in the past, QT documentation has seen major improvements lately. New articles are being posted at http://developer.apple.com/quicktime/ on a regular basis. Regarding moving forward - Take a look at the QuickTime 7.1 Update Guide at http://developer.apple.com/documentation/QuickTime/ Conceptual/QT7-1_Update_Guide/index.html. In particular, look for the section entitled "Directions and Shifts of Emphasis in QuickTime 7". Also take a look at "Advantages For Windows Developers". One major enhancement for QT video playback on Windows was the visual context support for Direct3D. QuickTime is trying to embrace the technologies of each platform (OpenGL support was added in a previous QT 7 release) so it can perform better. Regarding the streaming failure - As you know, this problem some of your testers have experienced is very difficult to pin down and has not been reproduced by anyone else so it is very hard to fix. The movies play in QT Player and browsers but report an obscure error when running in Rev. While this is definitely something that people want to see fixed I don't think we can interpret this as meaning that QT is not moving forward. Also regarding whether Rev will be in synch with QuickTime in 2009 - QuickTime is a framework that is meant to be used in other applications. It is a HUGE framework but luckily Rev only has to support basic playback and expose certain properties (like movieControllerID). Anyone can then use those properties to access the majority of the QT framework if they need to. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my Variable watcher no longer appears in debug mode
On 11/1/06 3:39 PM, "Bill Marriott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I've seen this behavior as well, but I just became accustomed to setting > the windows to the screenloc in the message window. [Hopefully the message > window itself will never fall victim to this bug; then what would I do?] For the message box off screen fix, you could always go to menu Rev preferences, turn on "Revolution UI elements appear in lists of stacks" go to menu Tools:Application Browser near the top of the listing at the left is "Message Box" ..right click on the icon representing that stack, choose property inspector, then choose "Size & Position", adjust to your hemisphere and time zone. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formatting data
On 11/1/06 2:43 PM, "Robert Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet, I > have data in row one C1R1, C2R1(6, 25), no data in rows 2 and 3, data in row > 4 C1R4, C2,R4(4, 26) data in row 5 C1R5, C2R5 (3, 22), > how would I format this data into one continuous column such as > 6 25 > 4 26 > 3 22 > I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet Robert, does this mean one field contains 6, 25 , , 4, 26 3, 22 --or 6, 25 4, 26 3, 22 --or fld 1 fld 2 6 25 4 26 3 22 ??? If it is the first one then filter field "excelData" without ",*" filter field "excelData" without empty replace comma with space in field "excelData" If the second one then filter field "excelData" without empty replace space with empty in field "excelData" replace comma with space in field "excelData" Let me know if you are doing something different than 1 or 2 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon - How To Increase Rev Profile
Kay C Lan wrote: I understand that EuroRevCon will be starting shortly. (Lucki). I'm sure one of the 'between seminar' chat topics will be why Rev isn't as popular as it should be and what can be done to put it into the lime light. Here's one option: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqa9zE9-_Sw I guess maybe Kevin could specify a RevCon dress code from now on:-) Gee, and here I thought it was cool when the team wore kilts at MacWorld. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevCon - How To Increase Rev Profile
I understand that EuroRevCon will be starting shortly. (Lucki). I'm sure one of the 'between seminar' chat topics will be why Rev isn't as popular as it should be and what can be done to put it into the lime light. Here's one option: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqa9zE9-_Sw I guess maybe Kevin could specify a RevCon dress code from now on:-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: formatting data
Thanks John
how do I now get this info into new fld
in this format
6 25
4 26
3 22
Robert Mann
President
GP Racing LLC
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Subject: Re: formatting data
here's a snippet that should work for 10 rows of fields - c1r1, c2r1,
c1r2, c2r2, etc...
put 1 into writeRow
repeat with i = 1 to 10
put fld("c1r" & i) into value1
put fld("c2r" & i) into value2
if value1 <> empty or value2 <> empty then
if i > writeRow then
put value1 into fld("c1r" & writeRow)
put value2 into fld("c2r" & writeRow)
put empty into fld("c1r" & i)
put empty into fld("c2r" & i)
end if
add 1 to writeRow
end if
end repeat
JC
Robert Mann wrote:
> I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet, I
> have data in row one C1R1, C2R1(6, 25), no data in rows 2 and 3, data in
row
> 4 C1R4, C2,R4(4, 26) data in row 5 C1R5, C2R5 (3, 22),
> how would I format this data into one continuous column such as
> 6 25
> 4 26
> 3 22
>
>
> Thanks
> Robert Mann
> President
> GP Racing LLC
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Re: my Variable watcher no longer appears in debug mode
They keep saying "if you build it they will come" ... oh no, wait, that's a baseball field. What they actually keep saying is, "if you BugZilla it, they will fix it." So, I suggest you enter it into BugZilla and see how many Rev revs it will take to be attended to. (I've seen this behavior as well, but I just became accustomed to setting the windows to the screenloc in the message window. [Hopefully the message window itself will never fall victim to this bug; then what would I do?] After you BZ it, let us know the link so we can vote.) "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > This problem had be stumped for days too, not just with the variable > window, but in my case it happened to the documentation window so I > couldn't even search the docs for an answer (not that it would have > helped since as far as I can tell it doesn't give any information on the > subject). > > I have now created a stack that does a show and a set screenLoc some of > the IDE windows, would it be a good idea to create a stack that somehow > can dynamically grab all the IDE stacks that can be affected in this way > show and screenLoc them? A Plugin or a an inbuilt command inside the IDE > might be the best approach. Comments? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: formatting data
here's a snippet that should work for 10 rows of fields - c1r1, c2r1,
c1r2, c2r2, etc...
put 1 into writeRow
repeat with i = 1 to 10
put fld("c1r" & i) into value1
put fld("c2r" & i) into value2
if value1 <> empty or value2 <> empty then
if i > writeRow then
put value1 into fld("c1r" & writeRow)
put value2 into fld("c2r" & writeRow)
put empty into fld("c1r" & i)
put empty into fld("c2r" & i)
end if
add 1 to writeRow
end if
end repeat
JC
Robert Mann wrote:
I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet, I
have data in row one C1R1, C2R1(6, 25), no data in rows 2 and 3, data in row
4 C1R4, C2,R4(4, 26) data in row 5 C1R5, C2R5 (3, 22),
how would I format this data into one continuous column such as
6 25
4 26
3 22
Thanks
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President
GP Racing LLC
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formatting data
I have 2 columns of fields with many rows much like a excel speed sheet, I have data in row one C1R1, C2R1(6, 25), no data in rows 2 and 3, data in row 4 C1R4, C2,R4(4, 26) data in row 5 C1R5, C2R5 (3, 22), how would I format this data into one continuous column such as 6 25 4 26 3 22 Thanks Robert Mann President GP Racing LLC ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Valentina for Revolution 2.5 CountDown: Bonjour Adapter
Paradigma Software is proud to announce a countdown to the release of Valentina Release 2.5, a free upgrade to users of Valentina 2.x database technology. Valentina is an ultra-fast, object-relational database technology used by developers since the late 1990's to deploy solution using popular development tools, including Visual C++, .net, COM, Director, REALbasic and Revolution. Valentina Release 2.5 is remarkable because it will introduce several new, forward looking technologies as well as "fill in" the features much requested or discussed since the introduction of Valentina 2.0. On the road to release of Valentina 2.5, Paradigma Software will introduce the new features in some detail and why those features are useful for creating and deploying rich and fast data oriented solutions on Windows and MacOS X (PPC and Intel). The first feature which you can test right now is the Bonjour Adapter. You can go directly to the description here on the Valentina wiki: http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:adapter s-bonjour OR To the countdown intro here: http://www.valentina-db.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=paradigma:public:en:v2.5cou ntdown Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software, Inc Joining Worlds of Information Deploy True Client-Server Database Solutions Royalty Free with Valentina Developer Network http://www.paradigmasoft.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The fileName: When using it in scripts, how to avoid modifiying it for each user ?
Hello Jim, and thanks a lot for your answer ; I roughly understand the solution ; but I must study it more deeply and make trials ; I will do that tomorrow ; now, it is a bit late here (for my old brain) ;-)) André Le 1 nov. 06 à 17:08, Jim Ault a écrit : On 11/1/06 9:30 AM, "André.Bisseret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have an app a substack of which is a model. This model is clone in ordre to create other stacks. These created stacks are main stacks (not substacks) because they are populated with data which have to be saved. They are accumulated in a folder (say « theFolder »). So, for each created stack, I must set its fileName in order to place it into « theFolder » ; also I must use the fileName in order to be able to re-open on such stack from «theFolder ». (in each of these cases, if I simpy use the stack name, that does not work). Ex : stack « /Users/user’name/desktop/theFolder/oneStackName » My problem arises when I want to give my app to another user who will use it with stackRunner (or as a standalone if I save it under this form) : then, in several scripts I must change the fileName ; specifically , the « user’name ». But also, possibly the destination (« theFolder » or even « desktop/theFolder », depending on where the user want to put this folder). If I want several users get my app., this change becomes unacceptable (even not possible). Is it a way to get rid of this constraint ? First, the stack filename contains the path to its location. Use that as the 'home' or 'root' folder name. Second, on starting the app, get a list of the folders in that same folder your stack is currently in. If there are none, then ask the user for a folder name (or create a "defaultHome" folder)(or set the itemdel to "/" put item 3 of the filename of this stack into tUser creae folder tUser&"Data" Third, use the defaultHome folder until the user chooses to do it differently and names the folder to his liking. At this time, move all of the files from the defaultHome to the new folder, then delete the old defaultHome folder. On start, this will be the only folder that contains the dataFile you need. Now your stack startup routine will get a list of folders, then look inside until it finds the 'userData.txt file you saved previously. Fourth, in your defaultFolder, save a text file with the names of the stacks the user may choose in the future, but use default names in case they don't make the effort. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Quicktime Issues Wiki
I was just shaking the tree to see if any mangoes would fall out. Aha! there's one from Trevor. Of course QT is not dead. It's a question of whether it has a pulse or is just there as a delivery window that may or may not work, depending"is an architecture that enhances the playback environment, be in browser or desktop application." as you put it... that's simply not enough...the API has to be solid, cross platform stable, documented, moving forward... (viz-a-viz our other thread on streaming failures on Windows...) I took Stephan's offer to open a channel to Apple seriously. But getting a grip on what Apple needs to do seems like a slippery well-oiled piglet. The discussion shifted to 3rd party QT authoring apps... From a strategic overview, this is about a) whether Quicktime can compete, 3 years from now, in the video distribution world on the internet against Flash and b) will Runtime revolution be in sync with the architeture, then...2009... Practically speaking: can I create Revolution stack, stream a movie and have all the bells and whistles offered by Flash via Quicktime? (goes to games, virtual reality tours, eduTainment, Keynote exports and more) I see all Greg Smith's very intelligent observations (even though they relate to a universe of 3rd party QT authoring apps) as possibly something Apple should hear about... so, thus, the wiki http://wiki.hindu.org/quicktime/ We are looking for, a list of as Dan put it, of "Specific kinds of improvements or changes were you looking for in QT that you didn't find but managed to locate in Flash?" email me off list for the edit password. What do you want Apple to do with Quicktime ?? Sivakatirswami Trevor DeVore wrote: On Oct 31, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: OK let's try again with the right URL! (so far only one response. Either Rev users have no interest in the subject or QT really is dead!) Now, now QuickTime is far from dead. It has never had as large an install base as it has today and it has never had as good of support for Windows technologies as it does today. It is very much alive. --Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If the visible of the menubar is true?
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I have a follow up question for OSX. I am looking to be able to hide the menubar on OSX for full screen kiosk type display. I am using system windows to frame the presentation in which I switch between applications using applescript. This way I can cut between overlays of video and live demos of an application - now in earlier tests when I hid the menubar in Rev and switched to another application the new application menu was also hidden - either by the system windows of the hide menubar action of Rev. Has this behaviour changed in the latst versions of Rev??? Is there any way to remove / mask the menubar for other applications on OSX? That is apart from running windows, or Linux :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: my Variable watcher no longer appears in debug mode
Hi, This problem had be stumped for days too, not just with the variable window, but in my case it happened to the documentation window so I couldn't even search the docs for an answer (not that it would have helped since as far as I can tell it doesn't give any information on the subject). I have now created a stack that does a show and a set screenLoc some of the IDE windows, would it be a good idea to create a stack that somehow can dynamically grab all the IDE stacks that can be affected in this way show and screenLoc them? A Plugin or a an inbuilt command inside the IDE might be the best approach. Comments? All the Best Dave On 1 Nov 2006, at 06:41, Jim Ault wrote: On 10/31/06 11:27 PM, "Dave Herndon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This has got me bugging. Two or three days now and I havent been able to bring up the VW window in debug mode. (v2.73) I am thinking of re- downloading rev to see if that helps. Any ideas? It just is no where to bee seen! Wierd. Dave It could be off screen or not visible Try this first in the message box put the loc of stack revvariablewatcher then set the loc of stack revvariablewatcher the to screenloc or go to Tools:Application Browser, then open the Rev preferences, click the check box that says "Revolution UI elements appear in lists of stacks" --now the stack near the bottom of the list should be visible and now turn off the checkbox to shorten the list Rev 2.6.1, Mac OSX 10.4.7 Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stripping blank spaces before and after a word. Help
Hi Dave, I think you are looking for something like this repeat for each item myVar in "var1,var2,var2" do "put word 1 to -1 of" && myVar && "into" && myVar end repeat or repeat for each line myLine in fld 1 put (word 1 to -1 of myLine) & cr after myList end repeat put word 1 to -1 of myList into fld 1 Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 1-nov-2006, om 18:54 heeft Dave Herndon het volgende geschreven: Does anyone have a handy little script that could be put in a repeat loop to evaluate either the contents of several fields, or a comma delimitered list of variables, and strip any blank spaces that may or may not exist from before and after the contents. To ready the data for insertion into a database. I am having an issue with data being entered with spaces before of after the words, and then not showing up in a data query because of that. I usualy insert the datra from several fields into a list such as var1,var2,var3, etc before entering it into a database. Thanks Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Stripping blank spaces before and after a word. Help
Does anyone have a handy little script that could be put in a repeat loop to evaluate either the contents of several fields, or a comma delimitered list of variables, and strip any blank spaces that may or may not exist from before and after the contents. To ready the data for insertion into a database. I am having an issue with data being entered with spaces before of after the words, and then not showing up in a data query because of that. I usualy insert the datra from several fields into a list such as var1,var2,var3, etc before entering it into a database. Thanks Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The fileName: When using it in scripts, how to avoid modifiying it for each user ?
On 11/1/06 9:30 AM, "André.Bisseret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I have an app a substack of which is a model. This model is clone in > ordre to create other stacks. These created stacks are main stacks > (not substacks) because they are populated with data which have to be > saved. They are accumulated in a folder (say « theFolder »). > > So, for each created stack, I must set its fileName in order to place > it into « theFolder » ; also I must use the fileName in order to be > able to re-open on such stack from «theFolder ». (in each of these > cases, if I simpy use the stack name, that does not work). > > Ex : stack « /Users/user¹name/desktop/theFolder/oneStackName » > > My problem arises when I want to give my app to another user who will > use it with stackRunner (or as a standalone if I save it under this > form) : > then, in several scripts I must change the fileName ; specifically , > the « user¹name ». But also, possibly the destination (« theFolder » > or even « desktop/theFolder », depending on where the user want to > put this folder). > > If I want several users get my app., this change becomes > unacceptable (even not possible). > > Is it a way to get rid of this constraint ? First, the stack filename contains the path to its location. Use that as the 'home' or 'root' folder name. Second, on starting the app, get a list of the folders in that same folder your stack is currently in. If there are none, then ask the user for a folder name (or create a "defaultHome" folder)(or set the itemdel to "/" put item 3 of the filename of this stack into tUser creae folder tUser&"Data" Third, use the defaultHome folder until the user chooses to do it differently and names the folder to his liking. At this time, move all of the files from the defaultHome to the new folder, then delete the old defaultHome folder. On start, this will be the only folder that contains the dataFile you need. Now your stack startup routine will get a list of folders, then look inside until it finds the 'userData.txt file you saved previously. Fourth, in your defaultFolder, save a text file with the names of the stacks the user may choose in the future, but use default names in case they don't make the effort. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon Malta now...
See you there! I'm flying direct from Exeter, UK, so no matching flights. Ian On 1 Nov 2006, at 16:17, Andre Garzia wrote: Friends, I am here on Niterói, BRASIL locking my bags and leaving for the airports. Today I leave for the Maltese conference, hope to meet many friends there. Any one going thru paris -> milano -> malta may add me on iChat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and maybe we'll all get togheter in the planes! :D Cheers and power to the developer Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The fileName: When using it in scripts, how to avoid modifiying it for each user ?
Hi, I have an app a substack of which is a model. This model is clone in ordre to create other stacks. These created stacks are main stacks (not substacks) because they are populated with data which have to be saved. They are accumulated in a folder (say « theFolder »). So, for each created stack, I must set its fileName in order to place it into « theFolder » ; also I must use the fileName in order to be able to re-open on such stack from «theFolder ». (in each of these cases, if I simpy use the stack name, that does not work). Ex : stack « /Users/user’name/desktop/theFolder/oneStackName » My problem arises when I want to give my app to another user who will use it with stackRunner (or as a standalone if I save it under this form) : then, in several scripts I must change the fileName ; specifically , the « user’name ». But also, possibly the destination (« theFolder » or even « desktop/theFolder », depending on where the user want to put this folder). If I want several users get my app., this change becomes unacceptable (even not possible). Is it a way to get rid of this constraint ? Thanks for any help Best regards from Grenoble André___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon Malta now...
Have fun, Andre! Me, I'm stuck at work with my nose to the grindstone. On Nov 1, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Friends, I am here on Niterói, BRASIL locking my bags and leaving for the airports. Today I leave for the Maltese conference, hope to meet many friends there. Any one going thru paris -> milano -> malta may add me on iChat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and maybe we'll all get togheter in the planes! :D Cheers and power to the developer Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevCon Malta now...
Friends, I am here on Niterói, BRASIL locking my bags and leaving for the airports. Today I leave for the Maltese conference, hope to meet many friends there. Any one going thru paris -> milano -> malta may add me on iChat: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and maybe we'll all get togheter in the planes! :D Cheers and power to the developer Andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "New" DST... how will that impact us?
Actually, Eric, that's not quite true if you count the UK in Europa (I do, since I live in both the UK and France). I am old enough to remember when the UK and French switch-over dates did not coincide, so change is not inconceivable, and there is currently a proposal being at least tentatively discussed in the UK to change the whole thing permanently. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6093560.stm?ls FWIW Graham On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:54:18 +0100, Eric Chatonet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Ken, Here in Europa, no change is planned. And there are states in the USA that never change of hour as Hawaii (as far as I know :-) Le 31 oct. 06 à 18:29, Ken Ray a écrit : Well, if we didn't have enough issues with dates, here's a new twist: The "Energy Policy Act of 2005" was passed through Congress recently and it is going to cause Daylight Savings Time to start a month earlier and end a week later starting next year (2007). Link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6393658 So since apparently only the US is doing this (am I right about that?), it would seem to mean that any code the depends on DST starting the first Sunday in April and ending the last Sunday in October will have to change. And if the reason PCs and Macs can automatically switch over to DST is because of "hard-coded" information on the motherboard, then they will have to change too. Does anybody know what other computing effects this will have? Also, does anyone have any info about how Revolution will handle the change? (Perhaps this is best asked of RunRev...) Don't want this to be another "Y2K"... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Web Moozler
Never tiring of reinventing the wheel I have uploaded to RevOnline just about the most basic web-browser imaginable (mind you, unlike Lynx, it does display some pictures) - really only to demonstrate what can be knocked together with RR in 15 minutes. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin
Luis and friends, well, this topic has been touched before. Many times. :-) I'll touch simple things first, the stacks and cards metaphor of Revolution can be presented in a XML format, but anyway, anything can be represented in XML format. XML cannot contain binary data, this is a violation of the spec. You binary data must be encoded with base64 or some other encoding. Not all browsers support SVG also. My systems as seen in http://www.andregarzia.com are not ready, and they are targeted at developing web applications with a HTML interface and web services using REST and XML-RPC. As for the eternal struggle of those in favor of a web plugin, let us think one thing first. Web plugins are not magical, people still have to download and install the plugin, this is not automatical. The plugin would at least weight as much as the engine, so it is actually the same thing as downloading a Revolution stack player. Plugins must be built not only for each browser because each uses a different interface but also for each platform. I don't think a browser plugin is a wise idea, there's not enough resources to mantain it. I think there are only two ways to go: 1) Use thin clients. Many enterprizes are moving away from the browser. The browser is dumb and you spend a lot more time dealing with its shortcomings than coding your own solution. I advise people to read the "beyond the browser" article by Richard Gaskin. 2) In case you really need the browser, use XHTML + Ajax techniques. This needs not a plugin, you can just code it server side with Rev and client side with Javascript. A thing that could be done is to make the engine output java bytecode, this would allow a stack to be run inside JVM which would bring it to the browser arena, but again, this would involve rewritting the whole engine and debugging the new engine and also the JVM, again, there's no resource for that I think, it's RunRev not Microsoft. Andre On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Luis wrote: Well, from a while ago the XML nature of the Cards was bandied about. I would have through these could be parsed and the appropriate 'web equivalent' controls then written to an HTML file, precluding the need for a plugin. A running Rev instance could do this to itself, saving off the contents of the Card view. Stuff like buttons should be ok as long as they are 'web safe' images, then there's SVG too. Interaction would need cgi processing for the data to be sent back to the running app, or dealing with it within a Rev Web Server: http://www.andregarzia.com/revwiki/page/RevOnRockets The only problem is the embedded binary data: Are there docs that detail its structure? Cheers, Luis. Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Revolution applets, with possibility to communicate with web page via javascript or revscript on a web page would be a very handy solution to deliver java-like applets without all the complexity and overheads of java language. I vote for this. Best Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rules governing stack purging
Hi, For what it's worth, I think that all that needs to be changed is to rename or alias the delete stack command to purge, in the meantime I'd create a function/handler called "PurgeStack" that does it. One thing that struck me is that if you were to want to grab a lot of cp's from a stack, as in: put the cp1 of stack_long_name into x1 put the cp2 of stack_long_name into x2 put the cp3 of stack_long_name into x3 put the cp4 of stack_long_name into x4 put the cp5 of stack_long_name into x5 etc. Then surely if you purged it from memory after each access then it would take a very long time to grab all the data, especially if the stack were large in size and their were a lot of data. IMO tho, the better way around it would be to introduce a concept of a read-only stack, it could be handled in many ways, this would be one of them: set the stackStatus of stack_long_name to "readonly" (now read the values as above) When the cp is set, it would cause the stack to be read into memory and it's status to be set to "readonly". An error would occur if the stack were already open (e.g. status of "readwrite"). If in read only mode and an attempt to write to the stack is made, then an error would occur (maybe controlled by another (global) cp). If the stack were opened then it's status would become "read-write" and since it's already in memory, it would be quicker. Having said all that, I do it a different way, since I fell foul of the problems you are experiencing. My approach it to do this: set the visible of stack_long_name to false set the cpFlagGetData of stack_long_name to true open stack stack_long_name --Call a function (using value()) in the stack that causes it to send it's data back to the calling stack --by calling a predefined "AcceptData" function in the calling stack set the cpFlagGetData of stack_long_name to false save stack stack_long_name close stack stack_long_name (I just put all this in a function) Then if the stack is opened with the cpFlagGetData set to false, I just make it visible in the preOpenStack handler. Now I have combined all this into my ISM module so it all happens automatically, but that's how I did it before I wrote ISM. All the Best Dave On 1 Nov 2006, at 07:18, Chipp Walters wrote: I'm going to have to agree with Dave and Trevor. I've always thought destroyStack comes into play only when closing stacks. If set to true, the stack is purged from memory (usually). I pretty much always use an explicit 'delete stack "xyz"' when I want to make sure a mainstack is closed. And like Dave, I, too, use stacks as repositories for data. Richard, I'm not sure I understand your comment about parsing the stack file format. I'm pretty sure Dave is just talking about using stacks to store data in-- separate from the business logic of the application. I typically use: go inv stack "xyz" when I want to access data from a stack. Though I also frequently check a custom prop for versioning, too. In both cases, I'm careful to 'delete' the stack when done. I think Dave's point regarding reading customProps from a stack, doing something with them, then saving them to the stack and finally closing it, is common among many of us who use customProps to hold data. Finally, Richard, I know you use the fine MC IDE and have a whole sweet(sp) of tools you use. But, in the Rev IDE, I'm with Jacque and one of the first things I do is set the default pref for destroyStack to true. It just works better. I think it should be the default. I guess it's one of choice. Mine is to leave it like it is, but I do agree some naming nomenclature may be necessary. I particularly like the notion of a 'purge stack' command. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Careful: Has Apple done it again?
Apple have just released Xcode 2.4.1 which may be obtained from their developer site; I quote:- "Xcode 2.4.1 addresses several issues in DWARF debugging and improves overall stability and security." (their capitals!) I am not "vertically challenged" myself, although I do suffer from P.C.P. (Political Correctness Phobia). sincerely, Richmond Mathewson I have just read and signed the online petition: "Hinge & Bracket" hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition service, at: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/HandB/ I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider signing yourself. Richmond Mathewson Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin
Xavier, I appreciate your two cents. I understand that there are both strengths and weaknesses to making Revolution Projects available within a web browser. At the same time I also see the very same strengths and weaknesses with other technologies out there that are very much in use today. Take JAVA for example. The idea is exactly the same as Revolution when I think of JAVA, except for my opinion that it is easier to create applications in Revolution than it is in JAVA. Additionally, I feel that JAVA is very slow when compared to other technologies out there. In the end, the "can of worms" is what is needed to push things forward. I see the push towards U3 as a sign of that. I think the folks at RunRev are looking for ways to branch out. U3 allows them to offer up yet another "platform". I just see making Revolution browser compatible the next step in the evolution of the program. In the end it's RunRev's decision as to whether or not they will consider my enhancement request. If they don't, I'll think of something else I want. If they do... well, who knows! :) Derek Bump Dreamscape Software ___ Compress photos quickly and easily with JPEGCompress! http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/ MisterX wrote: Ouch, what did I said at 4 AM waking up?! I wrote a huge response for 2 hours... positive but giving away too many hints... Lets rewrite clearer... sorry for the offensive words this morning to the better knowing... What I mean is that you can use rev on the web but via cgi. You can't manipulate stack parts, but then there's a bigger DOM world out there for the taking... I haven't tried ajax with the cgi though... don't know if it will handle the threads either - BUT with svg graphics, ajax techniques something IS definitely possible! ;) Using Apache is probably easier and more efficient though ;) Rev in a web page makes and doesn't make sense, though... For one, rev an an application maker, makes it too easy compared to the hastle of making web pages! And take the browser's added weight/distraction away too! And it's faster in response time too. Alas, Rev is not as standard looking as the browser (starting but there's a big detail missing... it doesn't have the text publishing and DOM support. Using rev to make web plugin applications would be awesome! Easy! Yet it wouldn't support DOM. HTML either wouldn't be supported correctly via clipboard, and the buttons wouldn't be as awkward looking sometimes... http://www.google.com/ig is possible though... surely... Rev in a Web in a plugin? Unlike Acrobat you can't really do text formating without QuarkXpress-like layouts in rev (watchout for text overflow...). Actually you can't make a simple "wordpad" emulator. You can't have different alignments per paragraph! Actually you can... Unlike real html, you can't do pretty tables in rev easily either... Yes, there's workarounds, but then the effort required is multiplied a lot (like per column field)! And if you need to change the fixedlineheight to non-fixed, you loose the hgrids, scrolling and selecting becomes a chore in screen updates too... I wrote for three hours about this because this is a can of worms! And I've gone through it not just once... so maybe a rev plugin for graphics would be cool but... im not sure it's going to be compatible or as good looking as the web parts around it... And I learned quite a bit from it! Mostly that you use the web for remote work. Firewalls can be a blocker for compiled apps using ports for example or you can't run any downloaded exe in some corporate networks/computer builds sometimes. But compiled apps are much faster than any web based system - no matter how fast your network! Ajax resolves this a bit... It sure makes the web closer to runrev in appearance but it's still far (light years) from being as easy as making apps in rev. Problem is that web development goes faster than light... The good thing is that rev can serve up any web page anytime you ask it... just point your browser to 127.0.0.1 to any port 80 socket waiting stack! What it replies is just a question of what you throw at it from rev! Thanks to Chipp, there's a solution to that text formating issue with alignments for your stacks. making html tables and dropping them into an altbrowser fields should be easy! twas my 2 cents in 3 hours :) A thousand excuses for the offlist-intended rudeness intended for those who tend to say no and add personal opinions or noise to signal. I wanted to say something fair and concrete to not disfavor neither rev's achievements and it's users needs. Certainly web delivery of your stack would be cool! We can't deny the fact and lack of feature... Good morning Europe Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MisterX Sent: Wednesday, 01 November, 2006 04:26 To: 'How to use Revolution' Subject: RE: Revolut
Re: Revolution Web Browser Plugin
Well, from a while ago the XML nature of the Cards was bandied about. I would have through these could be parsed and the appropriate 'web equivalent' controls then written to an HTML file, precluding the need for a plugin. A running Rev instance could do this to itself, saving off the contents of the Card view. Stuff like buttons should be ok as long as they are 'web safe' images, then there's SVG too. Interaction would need cgi processing for the data to be sent back to the running app, or dealing with it within a Rev Web Server: http://www.andregarzia.com/revwiki/page/RevOnRockets The only problem is the embedded binary data: Are there docs that detail its structure? Cheers, Luis. Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Revolution applets, with possibility to communicate with web page via javascript or revscript on a web page would be a very handy solution to deliver java-like applets without all the complexity and overheads of java language. I vote for this. Best Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Revolution Web Browser Plugin
Revolution applets, with possibility to communicate with web page via javascript or revscript on a web page would be a very handy solution to deliver java-like applets without all the complexity and overheads of java language. I vote for this. Best Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: If the visible of the menubar is true?
On 01 Nov 2006, at 04:13, Ken Ray wrote: On 10/31/06 9:01 PM, "Ken Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/31/06 8:48 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: wouter wrote: On Mac OS X (didn't test in OS 9) you can use the following to test for the visible of the menubar: put the menubar is not hidden or put the menubar is hidden "hidden"? Wow. Never would have guessed that one. Is that token used for any other element in the language? I wonder why "visible" is not used for the menubar as it is for everything else... Actually you *can* use it, like: put the menubar is visible put the menubar is not visible actually this won't work correctly (my fault for not testing thoroughly (I confess)) try: menubar visible : put the menubar is --> false menubar hidden: put the menubar is --> false But you *can't* use it this way: put the visible of the menubar put the visible of menubar -snip- Ken Ray Greetings, Wouter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
