Re: Force interrupt
try checking the allowinterrupts set the allowInterrupts to {true | false} Summary: Specifies whether the user can halt a handler with a key combination. One of the versions in the past had the default reversed. I wish it was a repeat loop, but if it was, it would certainly occur on all the computers we're testing on... or at least regularly on the same computer. This problem does not. It never occurs on half the computers and only occurs sometimes on some of them in the exact same spot. In other words, moving from a given card to another card will sometimes trigger the problem, and other times it won't. I can't see how that you be a problem with a repeat loop. Richard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Certainly OK by us at Altuit-- and since Kevin now owns altBrowser, his okeydokey would allow for it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
On 1/12/07 11:17 AM, "Richard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish it was a repeat loop, but if it was, it would certainly occur > on all the computers we're testing on... or at least regularly on the > same computer. This problem does not. It never occurs on half the > computers and only occurs sometimes on some of them in the exact same > spot. In other words, moving from a given card to another card will > sometimes trigger the problem, and other times it won't. I can't see > how that you be a problem with a repeat loop. Ahh, that is a bit trickier. The way it might be a repeat loop is that 'on opencard or closecard handlers will contain a repeat loop or trigger one. Another possibility is that there is a 'send' that has a pending message which depends on the current card will trigger and the new card is missing some required info. If this is not the case, then it could be something about the operating system or path names on the hard drive. One example would be reading a file into a variable, and if the path or file name was incorrect, the variable would be empty and the program expects something to be there. --eg. put lineoffset(the short id of this card, idListOfLinkedCards) into pos --where pos is 0 and you are expecting a positive integer Perhaps you could install a 'on closecard' handler in the back and trap for the particular condition in the 'exact spot', such as 'if the id of this card is 2343 then breakpoint'. What you are experiencing is my least favorite bug to track down. The technique I resort to is writing a log file to produce an audit trail, especially in my networking software that operates on different computers and runs asynchronously. Very difficult to isolate the bugs. --example --- put tab into t put the short date into dateStr replace "/" with empty in dateStr get dateStr & t & the short time get it & t & var1 & t & var2 & t & var3 & t & the short id of this card put (it & cr) after url ("file:"& dateStr&"logOut.txt") --now if the force quit is necessary, the log file will have the last successful handler call as the last line of the logOut file. The tabs are so that Excel can be used to open the file for analysis. Be careful of very large logOut file sizes of > 2 Mb. Slower performance issues, but not crashing. I have had 34 Mb log files by accident and only saw slow perfomance. Hope this helps Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-6: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Strange. AlFont worked for me this time. The first time I had to fix the link. Oh, well. Regardless, thanks. Joe On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am really sorry. I was in a hurry. Was out for dinner and was late as always. So i did not check the links. Please excuse. I uploaded the altFont.pdf also as alFont.pdf. So the provided link works. ;-) Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 19:26) From:Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The last link has a typo: should be altFont Joe Wilkins On Jan 12, 2007, at 9:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.were-here.net/rc/alFont.pdf ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-6: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
I am really sorry. I was in a hurry. Was out for dinner and was late as always. So i did not check the links. Please excuse. I uploaded the altFont.pdf also as alFont.pdf. So the provided link works. ;-) Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 19:26) From:Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The last link has a typo: should be altFont > > Joe Wilkins > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 9:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://support.were-here.net/rc/alFont.pdf > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-6: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Yes, you are right. That´s all i got as an documentation for altFont. It contains all what you need to know to use it. Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 20:20) From:Bill Marriott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And the altFont PDF doc at > > http://support.were-here.net/rc/altFont.pdf > > seems suspiciously short... just the first page. > > "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The last link has a typo: should be altFont > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Virtual Custom Property Sample - Recursion Limit Problem
Jim Ault wrote: As Eric described, the getProp/setProp messages are unlike others in the respect that passing the message 'starts it at the card level' once again, thus trapping its own message and entering an inescapable recursion loop. Lock messages=true will mean the unwanted message will not be introduced into the hierarchy. Actually, I find little or no value to the getProp/setProp behavior and simply program a normal handler to do the task. Every time I think that getProp will be an advantage, it turns out not to be and no pesky recursion to thwart. And FWIW, using getProp/setProp benchmarks a tad slower than calling a handler, so it really depends on what you want to accomplish. One thing getProp/setProp do well is maintain a reference to a specific object, the target. So if all you need is something procedural a handler will do, but if you need something to act on a specific object which may not be the target of a user interaction then getProp/setProp can be helpful. There are a few nuances of getProp/setProp which may be worth noting: As the original post found, when using a setProp handler in the script of the affected object, if that setProp handler also sets a property of the object there will be no recursion error, since the engine does its own implicit sort of "lockMessages" for such instances. But if the setProp handler is further down the message path outside of the target object, then no implicit locking takes place and the setProp handler's setting of the same property will trigger recursion. In addition to locking the messages yourself, you can also use a different name for the property in which you actually store a value. I tend to use a convention in which actual properties set by setProp handlers are preceded by an underscore to distinguish them from the property name accessed by other handlers: setProp MyProperty pMyValue set the _MyProperty of the target to pMyValue end MyProperty If there's a case where I need to actual property name to be the same as the public property name (rare but it happens), I usually just do the lockMessages right in the setProp handler itself so there's less to do when calling it elsewhere: setProp MyProperty pMyValue lock messages set the MyProperty of the target to pMyValue unlock messages end MyProperty -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
I wish it was a repeat loop, but if it was, it would certainly occur on all the computers we're testing on... or at least regularly on the same computer. This problem does not. It never occurs on half the computers and only occurs sometimes on some of them in the exact same spot. In other words, moving from a given card to another card will sometimes trigger the problem, and other times it won't. I can't see how that you be a problem with a repeat loop. Richard On Jan 12, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Jim Ault wrote: Here's the tough part... I can't know in advance where the running script is originating. I simply know something is running somewhere in my stack, and whatever it is, I want to abort it via script control. The most basic explanation that I have encountered for 'locked' routines is that you have triggered a repeat loop with a condition that makes it infinite. Rev runs code so quickly that it does not 'see' the ctrl period or escape and halt, at least in my experiences. Even if it does stop, you don't know where! Unfortunately for you, I am such a good programmer that I never write an infinite loop so have limited experience with this. You can stop laughing now. The standard technique for me is to write a stack or lib handler on debugAltStop if the altKey is down then breakpoint --optKey on Mac end debugAltStop repeat while tProcess is not empty debugAltStop --do my work end repeat Now if you drop into 'debugStop" you can step into the handler that is spinning when you held the altKey down. You could write a little stack/lib handler in Rev to edit all of your scripts and add the 'debugStop' line. --save a backup set of these stacks, then modify them like this. Rev can edit is own scripts, so you might want to consider that way. repeat with x = 1 to the number of controls --btns, flds, imgs, gps put the script of control x into scriptTemp if mm is empty then next repeat repeat for each line LNN in scriptTemp put LNN & cr after newScript if LNN contains "repeat while" then put LNN &cr& " debugAltStop" & cr after newScript if LNN contains "repeat until" then put LNN &cr& " debugAltStop" & cr after newScript end repeat set the script of btn x to "--mod with debugStop"& cr & newScript end repeat save this stack * also the card. stack scripts (back, front if you used them) After testing and locating the errors, you will fix the backups and put them into use. Hope this gives you some ideas about how to find those gremlins. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
And the altFont PDF doc at http://support.were-here.net/rc/altFont.pdf seems suspiciously short... just the first page. "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The last link has a typo: should be altFont ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
>>> Here's the tough part... I can't know in advance where the running >>> script is originating. I simply know something is running >>> somewhere in my stack, and whatever it is, I want to abort it via >>> script control. >>> The most basic explanation that I have encountered for 'locked' routines is that you have triggered a repeat loop with a condition that makes it infinite. Rev runs code so quickly that it does not 'see' the ctrl period or escape and halt, at least in my experiences. Even if it does stop, you don't know where! Unfortunately for you, I am such a good programmer that I never write an infinite loop so have limited experience with this. You can stop laughing now. The standard technique for me is to write a stack or lib handler on debugAltStop if the altKey is down then breakpoint --optKey on Mac end debugAltStop repeat while tProcess is not empty debugAltStop --do my work end repeat Now if you drop into 'debugStop" you can step into the handler that is spinning when you held the altKey down. You could write a little stack/lib handler in Rev to edit all of your scripts and add the 'debugStop' line. --save a backup set of these stacks, then modify them like this. Rev can edit is own scripts, so you might want to consider that way. repeat with x = 1 to the number of controls --btns, flds, imgs, gps put the script of control x into scriptTemp if mm is empty then next repeat repeat for each line LNN in scriptTemp put LNN & cr after newScript if LNN contains "repeat while" then put LNN &cr& " debugAltStop" & cr after newScript if LNN contains "repeat until" then put LNN &cr& " debugAltStop" & cr after newScript end repeat set the script of btn x to "--mod with debugStop"& cr & newScript end repeat save this stack * also the card. stack scripts (back, front if you used them) After testing and locating the errors, you will fix the backups and put them into use. Hope this gives you some ideas about how to find those gremlins. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Virtual Custom Property Sample - Recursion Limit Problem
As Eric described, the getProp/setProp messages are unlike others in the respect that passing the message 'starts it at the card level' once again, thus trapping its own message and entering an inescapable recursion loop. Lock messages=true will mean the unwanted message will not be introduced into the hierarchy. Actually, I find little or no value to the getProp/setProp behavior and simply program a normal handler to do the task. Every time I think that getProp will be an advantage, it turns out not to be and no pesky recursion to thwart. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 1/12/07 6:14 AM, "Bernard Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking into virtual custom properties (specifically: using them > to provide default values if a custom property of an object is empty > or does not exist). My understanding is that a getProp message > should percolate up the message path, and when it finds a getProp > handler it should be able to use whatever value is returned. > > This sample from the Dictionary looks like what I am trying to do > should be reasonable: > >>> > getProp expertSettings[thePropertyName] > -- The thePropertyName parameter contains the name of > -- the property that's being set > switch thePropertyName > case "fileMenuContents" >if the expertSettings[fileMenuContents] of the target \ > is empty then return "(No items" >else pass expertSettings >break > case "editMenuContents" >if the expertSettings[editMenuContents] of the target \ > is empty then return \ > the noviceSettings[editMenuContents] of the target >else pass expertSettings >break > default >pass expertSettings > end switch >end expertSettings > > << > > It seems to work fine when I put this in the MB: > > get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this stack > > However, if I type this instead: > > get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this card > > Then I get this error: > > Message execution error: > Error description: recursionLimit: Recursion limit reached > > The stack I'm testing this in is a new stack with no controls on it > (just the default card of any new stack). > > Is the documentation wrong, or is it my understanding of it that is > mistaken? > > Bernard > > P.S. The recursionLimit is at the default of 40. Incidentally, > the TD says this should be 100 by default. Since it is global > property, I'm assuming that even if I changed it to 40 in the > past, it should be resetting itself to 100 on restart. Is that > right? > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
The last link has a typo: should be altFont Joe Wilkins On Jan 12, 2007, at 9:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://support.were-here.net/rc/alFont.pdf ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > it sounds like the only drawback is: > > 1) A clunky cable interface Well, IMO, a scanner that has some kind of display on it would be the ideal. Because this unit has no display, there's no way to know how many items are on it or what you last scanned, but then again it's a relatively inexpensive unit. > I forgot to ask - - - are you doing this on a Mac or Windows platform? Would > this work with a Mac? Mac. > How does the scanner know that the data actually made it into the computer > before it deletes all it's contents? It doesn't care. It sends the text whether there's a field or not, the same as if you'd typed on your keyboard without being focused on a field. It works 2 ways: 1) without the cable connected, it stores scans and then dumps them when the cable is attached 2) with the cable connected, each scan is dumped immediately OK, enough [OT] for the list. Back to more important Rev matters. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Ok, here you go http://support.were-here.net/rc/altBrowser.pdf http://support.were-here.net/rc/alFont.pdf Best regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 18:33) From:Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 12/1/07 17:06, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > @kevin > > @chipp > > as i´ve already purchased altBrowser2 and altFont from Altuit several month > > ago, i have a pdf-doc for altBrowser and a text-doc for altFont. Is it ok > > for > > you, if i put them online and post that link here? > > Yes. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ > Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
On 12/1/07 17:06, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @kevin > @chipp > as i´ve already purchased altBrowser2 and altFont from Altuit several month > ago, i have a pdf-doc for altBrowser and a text-doc for altFont. Is it ok for > you, if i put them online and post that link here? Yes. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
Here's the problem I'm trying to address. I'll do my best to explain it, even though it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. We have a rather complex stack with almost 100 substacks. We're testing this app on several Windows machines. On many of the test units, the program runs fine. Never a problem. On some, though, the program comes to a halt at certain places. It sits there, with the cursor busy (the cursor had been previously set to busy), and will not proceed until I hit "command-period". The program then proceeds perfectly normally. The problem is that this "bug" is mostly random. It never happens on some computers, and when it happens on others, there's no telling exactly when and where it will occur though it will only occur in 3-5 possible places. I'm continuing to search for the source of this issue, but it's like a ghost. An easier solution would be to have a script that is triggered at certain key places which checks to see if the cursor remains stuck in a busy position for too long. If that happens, I want to send an interrupt to the stack, just like I do via keyboard. Any more thoughts on how to do that? Again, the problem isn't with finding out the software is "stuck" busy (I know how to do that), but telling it to interrupt whatever it's doing and simply continue. Thanks. Richard On Jan 12, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I think part of the problem is that your scripts are "blocking". Rev is not multitasking really, but it can be simulated using "with messages". Can you put a script in the button that would just print some text to the msg box? Test it without the script running. Then try it with the script running. if it doesn't print, then it's blocking. cmd-period isn't something you want an end user to use from a button, usually. anyway, you could probably make this work, but you'd have to rewrite stuff. check out the 'Message Mechanics' stack for an explanation. (somebody help me here). sqb Thanks Steve, but I couldn't get your suggestion to work. Sounded like a good idea, though. Here's an example of what I'd like to have happen. Script of btn 1: on mouseup repeat with i = 1 to 1 put i if i = 200 then tryit end repeat end mouseup on tryit ---do something here that stops the repeat loop from running end tryit Here's the tough part... I can't know in advance where the running script is originating. I simply know something is running somewhere in my stack, and whatever it is, I want to abort it via script control. Thanks. Richard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Hi, @kevin @chipp as i´ve already purchased altBrowser2 and altFont from Altuit several month ago, i have a pdf-doc for altBrowser and a text-doc for altFont. Is it ok for you, if i put them online and post that link here? Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 17:50) From:Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On 12/1/07 13:05, "Michael D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of > > course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some > > direction ? > > We have now posted license keys on the download page. We will post the > documentation and examples next week. Please check back then. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ > Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
I think part of the problem is that your scripts are "blocking". Rev is not multitasking really, but it can be simulated using "with messages". Can you put a script in the button that would just print some text to the msg box? Test it without the script running. Then try it with the script running. if it doesn't print, then it's blocking. cmd-period isn't something you want an end user to use from a button, usually. anyway, you could probably make this work, but you'd have to rewrite stuff. check out the 'Message Mechanics' stack for an explanation. (somebody help me here). sqb Thanks Steve, but I couldn't get your suggestion to work. Sounded like a good idea, though. Here's an example of what I'd like to have happen. Script of btn 1: on mouseup repeat with i = 1 to 1 put i if i = 200 then tryit end repeat end mouseup on tryit ---do something here that stops the repeat loop from running end tryit Here's the tough part... I can't know in advance where the running script is originating. I simply know something is running somewhere in my stack, and whatever it is, I want to abort it via script control. Thanks. Richard -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
At 8:29 AM -0800 1/12/07, Stephen Barncard wrote: Nor did I.. Hello Matthias, Hi, the link was in the email "Kick-start your Year with Revolution". I received this email yesterday. I didn't :-/ Klaus Major Ummmnewsletter? Email? What email? Didn't make it here...of course, here is 50 or 500 years different than the rest of the planet. That is a good thing sometimes ;-) sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
Thanks Steve, but I couldn't get your suggestion to work. Sounded like a good idea, though. Here's an example of what I'd like to have happen. Script of btn 1: on mouseup repeat with i = 1 to 1 put i if i = 200 then tryit end repeat end mouseup on tryit ---do something here that stops the repeat loop from running end tryit Here's the tough part... I can't know in advance where the running script is originating. I simply know something is running somewhere in my stack, and whatever it is, I want to abort it via script control. Thanks. Richard On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: untested: Type "." with commandkey from the docs Use the type command to show text appearing in a field at typing pace or to send keyboard events to a stack. another way of course on beginloop repeat forever -- code -- code if the mouse is "down" then exit to top end repeat end beginloop How can I send "command-period" to a running script through a button press rather than the message box? I want to be able to interrupt a running script by pressing a button. Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
On 12/1/07 13:05, "Michael D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of > course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some > direction ? We have now posted license keys on the download page. We will post the documentation and examples next week. Please check back then. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-6: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Oh. I received it at 5 different emailadresses. It came from sales. I think this email was addressed to users, which downloaded a trialversion of Revolution. I did not receive that email to my emailadress, which i used for registering/buying Revstudio. If you are interested in that mail, i´ll pass it to your emailadress. Just let me know. Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 17:34) From:Stephen Barncard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nor did I.. > > >Hello Matthias, > > > >>Hi, > >>the link was in the email "Kick-start your Year with Revolution". I > >>received this email yesterday. > > > >I didn't :-/ > >Klaus Major > > -- > > > stephen barncard > s a n f r a n c i s c o > - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Force interrupt
untested: Type "." with commandkey from the docs Use the type command to show text appearing in a field at typing pace or to send keyboard events to a stack. another way of course on beginloop repeat forever -- code -- code if the mouse is "down" then exit to top end repeat end beginloop How can I send "command-period" to a running script through a button press rather than the message box? I want to be able to interrupt a running script by pressing a button. Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Nor did I.. Hello Matthias, Hi, the link was in the email "Kick-start your Year with Revolution". I received this email yesterday. I didn't :-/ Klaus Major -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: iPhone
This fact kills it for me (in addition to being Cingular-only). I don't consider it a true smart phone if you can't have 3rd party apps. I guess I'll be sticking with my Treo. At 06:14 PM 1/11/2007, you wrote: All- The iPhone as a not.for.development.get.your.hands.off device: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007/gizmodo-iphone-hands-on-part-deux-why-isnt-it-white-and-other-questions-227575.php ...and just out of curiosity, can anyone remember Apple announcing a product six months before the announced shipping date? -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter T. Evensen http://www.PetersRoadToHealth.com 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Force interrupt
How can I send "command-period" to a running script through a button press rather than the message box? I want to be able to interrupt a running script by pressing a button. Thanks. Richard Miller Imprinter Technologies ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser installation
How do I install the downloads? Are they the thing I install and thus need all three or are they the installer and I need the one that matches my machine type and it will do the right thing so my apps can use altplugins on all the supported platforms? Or should I wait for something that comes with the next release? There are docs? where? Thanks for the links, it's a start. Kee ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Google's cache may help; |http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:Kxz5_cCvTZYJ:www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/AltBrowserSub/Documentation.htm+altBrowser+stack&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=8&client=firefox-a| Michael D. wrote: Hello I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some direction ? Michael - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation Hi, i hope its ok, if i post the link where to enter license-key.After successfull verify of your license key you are directed to a site, where you can download the plugins. Unfortunately there is no documentation. So it might be a little difficult to use the plug-ins without that. http://www.runrev.com/offers/plugins.php Best regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revOpenDatabase (GRRRR ....)
Hi Jean-Pierre, The Rev docs are incorrect I believe. Someone (I can't recall who, I apologize) pointed me in the right direction not too long ago. The correct syntax is to put the port number in as the last parameter. So your code should look like: put revOpenDatabase("MySQL","localHost","Anagram",root,root,"8889") Also, if "root" is your user name and password, it should probably also be enclosed in quotes. Hopefully that'll get you going again. Chris On Jan 12, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Jean-Pierre wrote: Whats wrong with this ? put revOpenDatabase("MySQL","localHost :8889","Anagram",root,root) > unknow MySQL server host "localHost : 8889" (1) this is the setting of the database manager, and "connected" is true ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Virtual Custom Property Sample - Recursion Limit Problem [solution]
>> lock messages put the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this card -- in the msg << Tres cool, Eric - that worked :-) I'm sure that you will find it surprising, but I've never had cause to look at "lock messages" before, and I probably would never have considered it in this context either. I get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I ask a question on this list and get an expert answer back within 30 minutes. I remember I once spent 4 weeks and 15 emails trying to get a solution to a trivial support issue from IBM. Many thanks, Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
I am new to all of this (and the list included) but the files download as bundles which are supposed to act like folders on OS X (per the Revolution documentation) but my system thinks they are excel files (??). How do I use bundles? Neal On Jan 12, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: All I can say right now is that Rev's aware of the problem. Not sure when there will be an update. "Michael D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some direction ? Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 40, Issue 17
Hi Mark, hi Bernard! Thanks for your help! It works fine :-) Reinhold This works in my code ... convert vTheSeconds to short system date and abbreviated system time ... where vTheSeconds is a value in seconds such as 1141690766 Mark get the seconds convert it to abbreviated system date put it The convert command needs to be given a value (or a container holding a value) you need to convert. This also works: convert value(quote & the seconds & quote) to abbreviated system date I've been caught out by convert before doing precisely what you are trying to do. This 'feature' of Rev does not seem consistent or intuitve to me. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Virtual Custom Property Sample - Recursion Limit Problem
Hi Bernard, To avoid recursion when using get or setProp, just try to lock messages: lock messages put the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this card -- in the msg In addition, you have to know that running code from the message box sometimes leads to weird results: Always prefer to create on-the-fly a new stack and put your code in a brand new button :-) As for global properties, you are right: recursion limit will be set to one million when launching Rev. If you set it to another value, this new value will be used in all open stacks during the current session only. Hope this helps. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 12 janv. 07 à 15:14, Bernard Devlin a écrit : I am looking into virtual custom properties (specifically: using them to provide default values if a custom property of an object is empty or does not exist). My understanding is that a getProp message should percolate up the message path, and when it finds a getProp handler it should be able to use whatever value is returned. This sample from the Dictionary looks like what I am trying to do should be reasonable: >> getProp expertSettings[thePropertyName] -- The thePropertyName parameter contains the name of -- the property that's being set switch thePropertyName case "fileMenuContents" if the expertSettings[fileMenuContents] of the target \ is empty then return "(No items" else pass expertSettings break case "editMenuContents" if the expertSettings[editMenuContents] of the target \ is empty then return \ the noviceSettings[editMenuContents] of the target else pass expertSettings break default pass expertSettings end switch end expertSettings << It seems to work fine when I put this in the MB: get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this stack However, if I type this instead: get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this card Then I get this error: Message execution error: Error description: recursionLimit: Recursion limit reached The stack I'm testing this in is a new stack with no controls on it (just the default card of any new stack). Is the documentation wrong, or is it my understanding of it that is mistaken? Bernard P.S. The recursionLimit is at the default of 40. Incidentally, the TD says this should be 100 by default. Since it is global property, I'm assuming that even if I changed it to 40 in the past, it should be resetting itself to 100 on restart. Is that right? -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Virtual Custom Property Sample - Recursion Limit Problem
I am looking into virtual custom properties (specifically: using them to provide default values if a custom property of an object is empty or does not exist). My understanding is that a getProp message should percolate up the message path, and when it finds a getProp handler it should be able to use whatever value is returned. This sample from the Dictionary looks like what I am trying to do should be reasonable: >> getProp expertSettings[thePropertyName] -- The thePropertyName parameter contains the name of -- the property that's being set switch thePropertyName case "fileMenuContents" if the expertSettings[fileMenuContents] of the target \ is empty then return "(No items" else pass expertSettings break case "editMenuContents" if the expertSettings[editMenuContents] of the target \ is empty then return \ the noviceSettings[editMenuContents] of the target else pass expertSettings break default pass expertSettings end switch end expertSettings << It seems to work fine when I put this in the MB: get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this stack However, if I type this instead: get the expertSettings["fileMenuContents"] of this card Then I get this error: Message execution error: Error description: recursionLimit: Recursion limit reached The stack I'm testing this in is a new stack with no controls on it (just the default card of any new stack). Is the documentation wrong, or is it my understanding of it that is mistaken? Bernard P.S. The recursionLimit is at the default of 40. Incidentally, the TD says this should be 100 by default. Since it is global property, I'm assuming that even if I changed it to 40 in the past, it should be resetting itself to 100 on restart. Is that right? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev?
Scott - - this is great info, thanks! So it sounds like the only drawback is: 1) A clunky cable interface I forgot to ask - - - are you doing this on a Mac or Windows platform? Would this work with a Mac? How does the scanner know that the data actually made it into the computer before it deletes all it's contents? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Any way to use BlueTooth Flic barcode scanner in Rev? >> I'm curious to know if the mini sends barcodes to Revolution as if you're >> using a keyboard > I'm still trying to get details on how to possibly connect the scanner > output to Rev OK, it's pretty basic -- the scanner sends the barcode digits to any region on the screen that can accept text, which means you can scan a code into a Rev field that has focus. As you guessed above, the scanner sends barcodes in the form of keystrokes (keyDown message). I tried scanning an iTunes gift card barcode and it works. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
All I can say right now is that Rev's aware of the problem. Not sure when there will be an update. "Michael D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello > I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of > course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some > direction ? > Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revOpenDatabase (GRRRR ....)
Hi On my Mac, Localhost is case-sensitive. Try Localhost instead of localHost. Also try removing the space. Are you sure that the port number is correct? Default is 3306. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 12-jan-2007, om 13:54 heeft Jean-Pierre het volgende geschreven: Whats wrong with this ? put revOpenDatabase("MySQL","localHost :8889","Anagram",root,root) > unknow MySQL server host "localHost : 8889" (1) this is the setting of the database manager, and "connected" is true ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revOpenDatabase (GRRRR ....)
Whats wrong with this ? put revOpenDatabase("MySQL","localHost :8889","Anagram",root,root) > unknow MySQL server host "localHost : 8889" (1) this is the setting of the database manager, and "connected" is true ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Hello I downloaded these plugins too and its great there available early, but of course how to use ? be great to have some documentation. Anyone have some direction ? Michael - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation Hi, i hope its ok, if i post the link where to enter license-key.After successfull verify of your license key you are directed to a site, where you can download the plugins. Unfortunately there is no documentation. So it might be a little difficult to use the plug-ins without that. http://www.runrev.com/offers/plugins.php Best regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to convert seconds to date and time?
get the seconds convert it to abbreviated system date put it The convert command needs to be given a value (or a container holding a value) you need to convert. This also works: convert value(quote & the seconds & quote) to abbreviated system date I've been caught out by convert before doing precisely what you are trying to do. This 'feature' of Rev does not seem consistent or intuitve to me. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Hello Matthias, Hi, the link was in the email "Kick-start your Year with Revolution". I received this email yesterday. I didn't :-/ The link was in the last paragraph of that email " and get these three externals by going here". Clicking on HERE led me to the form, where to enter the license code. Thanks for the info. Best regards, Matthias Regards and Grüße Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: How to convert seconds to date and time?
This works in my code ... convert vTheSeconds to short system date and abbreviated system time ... where vTheSeconds is a value in seconds such as 1141690766 Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reinhold Venzl-Schubert Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:23 AM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: How to convert seconds to date and time? Hi! In the documentation I find the way to "convert the date && the time to seconds" but I do not find a way to convert the seconds back the date && the time. Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-4: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Hi, the link was in the email "Kick-start your Year with Revolution". I received this email yesterday. The link was in the last paragraph of that email " and get these three externals by going here". Clicking on HERE led me to the form, where to enter the license code. Best regards, Matthias Original Message Subject: Re: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation (12-Jan-2007 10:32) From:Klaus Major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi Matthias, > > > Hi, > > > > i hope its ok, if i post the link where to enter license-key.After > > successfull verify of your license key you are directed to a site, > > where you can download the plugins. Unfortunately there is no > > documentation. So it might be a little difficult to use the plug- > > ins without that. > > > > http://www.runrev.com/offers/plugins.php > > thanks a bunch for this link! > > Why did we not get any official announcement about this link??? :-/ > Or are this not the new OFFICIAL REV plugins, they are stil called > "altXYZ"? > > > Best regards, > > > > Matthias > > Regards > > Klaus Major > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.major-k.de > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to convert seconds to date and time?
Hi! In the documentation I find the way to "convert the date && the time to seconds" but I do not find a way to convert the seconds back the date && the time. Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to convert seconds to date and time?
Hi! In the documentation I find the way to "convert the date && the time to seconds" but I do not find a way to convert the seconds back the date && the time. Reinhold ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: AltBrowser licensing/documentation
Hi Matthias, Hi, i hope its ok, if i post the link where to enter license-key.After successfull verify of your license key you are directed to a site, where you can download the plugins. Unfortunately there is no documentation. So it might be a little difficult to use the plug- ins without that. http://www.runrev.com/offers/plugins.php thanks a bunch for this link! Why did we not get any official announcement about this link??? :-/ Or are this not the new OFFICIAL REV plugins, they are stil called "altXYZ"? Best regards, Matthias Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution