Pic-a-POD and Wikipedia Picture of the day woes
Hi Sarah! I sent you a message some days ago to the troz address about this... By going on the Wikipedia web site, it seems that Wikipedia has changed its scheme for obtaining the Picture of the day as of January 1st; so Pic-a-POD has some trouble retrieving this image -- it gets an image some day and not another! By the way, I am a fan of Pic-a-POD to get great pictures :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
altFont etc.
Hi friends, can someone give me a little technical hint about altFont? I can successfully load and unload a font, now my question: How long will the loaded font be available if I do NOT unistall the font? 1. As long as Rev is running or 2. as long as Windows/the Mac is running (read: until the next restart of either Rev or Win/ the Mac)? Another question: I just had a crash with Rev on Windows and the appropriate crashlog file is a *.DMP file of more than 12 (twelve!) MB!!!??? Is this the file I am supposed to attach to my bugzilla, ehm Rev quality center report? Thanks in advance. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Heather Nagey old interview
I stumbled across an old interview done with Heather Nagey in the early years of Revolution. I cannot find a date anywhere on the interview, but from the Q and A, I'd guess quite early on. I enjoyed every word. It was quite refreshing to hear Heather's enthusiasm for Revolution, and the enthusiasm of everyone involved in its creation. My favorite question however, was: Q: What single thing do you think Revolution did better than the other clones? A: Sold. If anyone would like to read it, you'll find it here: http://www.zathras.de/angelweb/xtalkinterviews-heather-nagey.htm Thank you, Heather, and Kevin, and all the folks who've made Revolution possible for us :-D Shari -- Gypsy King Software Mac and Windows shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
(no subject)
I know there is a way to get the column type using revDatabaseColumnTypes(firstcurID) is there also a way to get all the other information about the column such as PK, and the column type value int(10) Thanks Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Is this a bug?
Exists function: Create 2 buttons: Name the first one taxes Name the second one UFOs Group each button independantly and set the name of each group to America Now you have 2 groups, each named America, each with a differently named button within. Now, try the following in the msg box: put exists(button taxes in group America) returns 'true' put exists(button UFOs in group America) returns 'false' Furthermore, this statement no longer works either: edit script of button UFOs in group America Seems like this should work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Chipp, No, this is not a bug. Revolution takes the first group with the name America it finds and that's how it should be IMHO. This is a gentle way to force the programmer to structure his/her work and avoids time wasting confusion. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 20-jan-2007, om 15:17 heeft Chipp Walters het volgende geschreven: Exists function: Create 2 buttons: Name the first one taxes Name the second one UFOs Group each button independantly and set the name of each group to America Now you have 2 groups, each named America, each with a differently named button within. Now, try the following in the msg box: put exists(button taxes in group America) returns 'true' put exists(button UFOs in group America) returns 'false' Furthermore, this statement no longer works either: edit script of button UFOs in group America Seems like this should work. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Yes I agree it is not a bug in terms of naming - it would be perhaps be more natural if the exists function makes an exception here as clearly the object does exist. I use long ids every where and put them in a varaible: put the long id of group 1 into firstAmerican put the long id of group 2 into newRepublican put exists(button taxes of firstAmerican) put exists(button UFOs of newRepublican) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: calling a remote function..
Chipp I have been using send and command and function calls for several years now - like Andre I do not use functions but send commands - even better in my opinion is to use getprop and setprop handlers - in your case that would look like this: put 1,000 into line 1 of marshalledData put Soldiers into line 1 of marshalledData -- get value(foo(param1,param2),btn bar) get the foo [marshalledData] of btn bar Where instead of a function the btn contains: getprop foo [marshalledData] put line 1 of marshalledData into param1 put line 1 of marshalledData into param2 return param1 cr param2 end foo Now what would be great would be if you could use arrays to marshall the data, but unfortunately arrays cannot be passed as params on mouseUp pMouseBtnNum put 1,000 into dataArray[num] put soldiers into dataArray[name] put the foo [dataArray] of btn bar pass mouseUp end mouseUp getprop foo [dataArray] put dataArray[num] into param1 put dataArray[name] into param2 return param1 cr param2 end foo This would ore than overcome the limitation of 1 param + rev control passed to the called object (2 param2 + rev control for setprops). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Well then, At least it's a bug in the documentation, where it clearly states: Returns true if the specified object exists, false if it does not. I, personally think it is a bug. If the goal is to force uniqueness and 'avoid time wasting confusion', then why even allow controls or objects with the same name? I certainly understand if you have two fields with the same name, and you reference the second one and you 'get' the first one. But to say a control does not exist seems wrong, especially when 'object instancing' is not allowed. It's not a big deal, I, too use the id property to get around it. I can certainly see the potential for a lot of confusion and broken scripts, especially since the documentation also states: Description Use the exists function to make sure an object exists before you try to perform an action on it, or to determine whether to create an object. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Chipp if you file it - I'll vote for it :) Existence is not to be quibbled with. By the way my understanding is that bug is not the official term - according to the documentation: the term 'bug' has been deprecated an the term anomaly is now the preferred term. Errors or other anomalies within the Revolution programming environment should be reported to the quality control department where they will be dealt with appropriately. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (no subject)
On Jan 20, 2007, at 6:18 AM, Robert Mann wrote: I know there is a way to get the column type using revDatabaseColumnTypes(firstcurID) is there also a way to get all the other information about the column such as PK, and the column type value int(10) I think you need to use the database specific queries for this information. Here are ones for mysql, sqlite and postgresql (I *think* the postgresql one is right): put mytable into pTable SWITCH theDBType# get query to extract table info CASE mysql put SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM ` pTable ` into theSQL break CASE sqlite put PRAGMA table_info( quote pTable quote ) into theSQL break CASE postgresql put SELECT column_name FROM information_schema.columns WHERE table_name = ' pTable ' into theSQL break END SWITCH Using one of the above queries and open a cursor. You should then get one record for each field. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open and Closing MySQL
Found the answer...open an closing db in mysql after each script is fine...sorry for the newbie question. The learning is going just fine! Jim... On Friday, January 19, 2007, at 01:51PM, Jim Schaubeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Is it good practice to close a connection to a database right after you use it (MySQL)? I don't have a problem writing the SQL every time, I just want to make sure it doesn't hurt anything if I did it that way. Also, is there any more documentation somewhere on the rev commands for SQL? Thanks for the help, Jim... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open and Closing MySQL
Hi Jim, It won't hurt to open and immediately close a database after using it, but if you keep it open, you are able to refer to queries made earlier. My advise would be to keep the database open until you have finished working with it. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 20-jan-2007, om 16:17 heeft Jim Schaubeck het volgende geschreven: Found the answer...open an closing db in mysql after each script is fine...sorry for the newbie question. The learning is going just fine! Jim... On Friday, January 19, 2007, at 01:51PM, Jim Schaubeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Is it good practice to close a connection to a database right after you use it (MySQL)? I don't have a problem writing the SQL every time, I just want to make sure it doesn't hurt anything if I did it that way. Also, is there any more documentation somewhere on the rev commands for SQL? Thanks for the help, Jim... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Recently, Chipp Walters wrote: Furthermore, this statement no longer works either: edit script of button UFOs in group America That's weird -- I didn't even know this syntax was permitted. I always thought one had to use of group not in group. But of course, this exposes the partial superfluousness in the language regarding of, because the following also works: edit script of btn UFOs grp America this cd Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Drag-Scrolling
As an alternative to grabbing the scroll bars of the group I would like to be able to scroll a group of objects by clicking in the middle of the group and dragging. This hadn't seemed like it should be that tricky but I'm bumping my head. Any suggestions? -Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust !) web http://elementarysoftware.com/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: (no subject)
Thanks Trevor, I got this working but is there a way to do this for selected columns Something like gfields is a list of fields separated by comma put SHOW gfields COLUMNS FROM ` gtable ` into theSQL this does not work get revdberr,You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(addyrmodperm_id,tunername)COLUMNS FROM `addyrmodsize_permission`' at line 1 Thanks Rob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-Scrolling
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 11:02:49 -0800, Scott Morrow wrote: As an alternative to grabbing the scroll bars of the group I would like to be able to scroll a group of objects by clicking in the middle of the group and dragging. This hadn't seemed like it should be that tricky but I'm bumping my head. Any suggestions? Well, the first thing to know is that if you click in an area of the group that doesn't contain any other objects, you won't get the mouseDown event you want trap. So my suggestion would be to create a button or graphic that matches your background color and put it behind everything else in the group so you can trap the event. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Chipp- Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:57:21 AM, you wrote: 'avoid time wasting confusion', then why even allow controls or objects with the same name? Yep - this has bothered me for a long time, too. I'd certainly support a referendum to disallow objects with the same name, but I'm afraid it would break backward compatibility. VB supports object instancing in the form of group America[2], but I don't care much for the syntax. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-Scrolling
Recently, Scott Morrow wrote: As an alternative to grabbing the scroll bars of the group I would like to be able to scroll a group of objects by clicking in the middle of the group and dragging. This hadn't seemed like it should be that tricky but I'm bumping my head. Any suggestions? Hey Scott: I just found the following among some test stacks -- maybe it's close to what you're looking for. go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/dragscroll.rev; Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:23:16 -0800, Mark Wieder wrote: Chipp- Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:57:21 AM, you wrote: 'avoid time wasting confusion', then why even allow controls or objects with the same name? Yep - this has bothered me for a long time, too. I'd certainly support a referendum to disallow objects with the same name, but I'm afraid it would break backward compatibility. VB supports object instancing in the form of group America[2], but I don't care much for the syntax. Maybe if there was an instance property of an object, so you could do: put the number of instances of group America put 10 into field 1 of instance 1 of group America put the long id of instance 2 of group America into tID (etc.) Just a thought... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
Mark Wieder wrote: Chipp- Saturday, January 20, 2007, 6:57:21 AM, you wrote: 'avoid time wasting confusion', then why even allow controls or objects with the same name? Yep - this has bothered me for a long time, too. I'd certainly support a referendum to disallow objects with the same name, but I'm afraid it would break backward compatibility. VB supports object instancing in the form of group America[2], but I don't care much for the syntax. But the same-named object thing can sometimes be used to advantage. Consider this: on mouseUp put the groupIDs of this cd into tGroupList repeat for each line tTargetID in tGroupList switch (short name of grp id tTargetID) case Section doSectionStuff tTargetID break case Page doPageStuff tTargetID break case Chapter doChapterStuff tTargetID break end switch end repeat end mouseUp Admittedly, basing processing on the object name isn't the only way to do the above - just thought I would put my signature positive spin on yet another thing that can be an issue in certain contexts. :o) Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
On 20 Jan 2007, at 20:23, Mark Wieder wrote: 'avoid time wasting confusion', then why even allow controls or objects with the same name? Yep - this has bothered me for a long time, too. I'd certainly support a referendum to disallow objects with the same name, I assume any restriction on duplicate names would only apply at the same level within an object. Otherwise we'd have trouble with re- usable widgets made of grouped objects. For example, two table widgets on the same card should be named differently, but presumably not their component fields/buttons/sub-groups/etc. I.e. both tables can have buttons named header. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Is this a bug?
And Dave has demonstrated EXACTLY my problem with this. The simple fact is, I am creating grouped widgets, which I have differently named components within, which I would like to be able to address. Mark, your example also demonstrates the power of same named instances of object. I guess it all boils down to each of us trying our best to create reusable grouped components, each with the same codebase. A most difficult task. For instance, take altFldHeader which creates column headers for fields. ( go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altFldHeader.rev; ) While it's been stable now for years, modifying old altFldHeaders still is a problem as each instance has all of the code embedded in the group. The same is true for many of my so called 'objects.' A benefit of this approach is it's easy to do exception programming and track code as well with everything being neatly packaged in a group. A big drawback is when you want to modify the codebase, you have to replace each group, especially if you end up adding a new control. Separating the 'object' into a GUI library group and a background library has it's own set of problems as well. You need to carefully track what libraries are still being used. For instanec, they have to be inited from a startup handler, so now you have at the minimum 3 different places for custom object 'pieces': the library stack script, the GUI control group, and a piece of init code in startup. You also need to be very careful using 'the target' and if you have other system handlers, you'll need to make sure they don't interfere, as they're called ALL THE TIME, instead of only when needed. I'm not crazy about this approach, unless you're coding something like libURL. (Note: this could be simplified a bit by inserting the script of the object into back, but the severe limitation on numbers of these makes it a poor idea. All you need is 10 altFldHeaders and you've used up all your allowed control inserts). Perhaps a dynamic pseudo-instancer scripted from an installer might be an interesting way to go. I don't know, I guess waiting until we get real objects is the best way to go. -Chipp On 1/20/07, Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume any restriction on duplicate names would only apply at the same level within an object. Otherwise we'd have trouble with re- usable widgets made of grouped objects. For example, two table widgets on the same card should be named differently, but presumably not their component fields/buttons/sub-groups/etc. I.e. both tables can have buttons named header. Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-Scrolling
Scott Rossi, I think it works, but I just keep seeing spots no matter where I scroll. Getting dizzy now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Pic-a-POD and Wikipedia Picture of the day woes
Hi Dom, I got your email and answered it. Then I wrote a fix and emailed you again asking if you would test it for me. I guess they got lost in some spam filter, so hopefully this will get through... If this gets to youand you don't mind, I will email you a new OS X version. Do you want UB or PPC? Cheers, Sarah On 1/20/07, Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sarah! I sent you a message some days ago to the troz address about this... By going on the Wikipedia web site, it seems that Wikipedia has changed its scheme for obtaining the Picture of the day as of January 1st; so Pic-a-POD has some trouble retrieving this image -- it gets an image some day and not another! By the way, I am a fan of Pic-a-POD to get great pictures :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altFont etc.
Hi Klaus, altFont on Windows installs the font as long as the app is running, but then removes it when it quits. I forget how the Mac works, but I expect the documentation has the info. best, Chipp On 1/20/07, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi friends, can someone give me a little technical hint about altFont? I can successfully load and unload a font, now my question: How long will the loaded font be available if I do NOT unistall the font? 1. As long as Rev is running or 2. as long as Windows/the Mac is running (read: until the next restart of either Rev or Win/ the Mac)? Another question: I just had a crash with Rev on Windows and the appropriate crashlog file is a *.DMP file of more than 12 (twelve!) MB!!!??? Is this the file I am supposed to attach to my bugzilla, ehm Rev quality center report? Thanks in advance. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: (no subject)
On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Robert Mann wrote: Thanks Trevor, I got this working but is there a way to do this for selected columns Something like gfields is a list of fields separated by comma put SHOW gfields COLUMNS FROM ` gtable ` into theSQL this does not work get revdberr,You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(addyrmodperm_id,tunername)COLUMNS FROM `addyrmodsize_permission`' at line 1 I haven't tried filtering before but maybe you can get some ideas from this page: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/show-columns.html -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems - www.bluemangolearning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
