Futuristic Interface

[Alex Shaw]

Hi

For those interested in interface design..

http://www.bassictech.com/blogs/bassictech_news_blog/archive/2007/01/20/remapping-the-universe-using-this-gui.aspx

http://ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=j_han&flashenabled=1

Now when will rev be able to do this? :)

regards
alex
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Creating Audio Clips

[Richmond Mathewson]

I use Audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

it is Open Source.

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Re: finding renamed files

[David Glasgow]

Thanks to all who made suggestions re the above.  The detailed files 
looked promising, but ultimately a bit disappointing.  Maybe last 
accessed might offer something, unless of course the file is renamed 
without opening.  Mind you, I am only interested in files renamed 
because they *mean* something to the user, so I may well want to ignore 
anything renamed without opening.  I will call that a 'feature'  ;-))


I will experiment and see what works best.

Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Mark Schonewille]

You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)

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Op 8-feb-2007, om 5:30 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven:


Hi Everyone,

I've a program in which, rather than have the computer voices  
reading some text, I'd like to have real voices called that would  
speak the text. Presumably, I need to provide audio clips that I  
can call to do this. Any idea how to create them?


I have an old application called SoundEdit that I believe will do  
the job, but it is probably not OSX compatible and I'd have to  
resurrect one of my older Macs to use it. Any Rev compatible tool I  
can use on OSX to do the same thing?


TIA,

Joe Wilkins



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Re: Futuristic Interface

[jbv]

Alex,

>
> Now when will rev be able to do this? :)
>

actually, nothing hinders you from developping externals to
achieve a similar result...

JB

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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Viktoras Didziulis]

With that technology, I would start to wash my hands more often ;-) 
 
Viktoras 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: Alex Shaw 
Date: 2007.02.08 10:32:44 
To: How to use Revolution 
Subject: Futuristic Interface 
 
Hi 
 
For those interested in interface design.. 
 
http://www.bassictech
com/blogs/bassictech_news_blog/archive/2007/01/20/remapping-the-universe-usin
-this-gui.aspx 
 
http://ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=j_han&flashenabled=1 
 
Now when will rev be able to do this? :) 
 
regards 
alex 
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RUNREV down?

[Klaus Major]

Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Click of field

[Jeff Honken]

I have a multiline field that I would like to send a click to the first
line of it when it gets the focus.  I'm using "focus on fld "ABC"" to go
to the field and it highlights that first line but I need it to click on
it too.  Does anyone have any idea on how to do this?
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Re: RUNREV down?

[Andre Garzia]

Klaus my friend,

just tried and the page opened fine in here... try a traceroute,  
maybe, you're having isp trouble...


cheers
andre

On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Futuristic Interface

[jbv]

please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the feeling that there was
something similar in the interface of the Apple iPhone... at least a
touchscreen with a GUI that follows closely every finger move...

JB

> With that technology, I would start to wash my hands more often ;-)
>
> Viktoras
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: Alex Shaw
> Date: 2007.02.08 10:32:44
> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Futuristic Interface
>
> Hi
>
> For those interested in interface design..
>
> http://www.bassictech
> com/blogs/bassictech_news_blog/archive/2007/01/20/remapping-the-universe-usin
> -this-gui.aspx
>
> http://ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=j_han&flashenabled=1
>
> Now when will rev be able to do this? :)
>
> regards
> alex
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Re: RUNREV down?

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Klaus,

Still available from there ;-)

Best Regards from F-Nemours,


Le 8 févr. 07 à 14:12, Klaus Major a écrit :


Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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--
Pierre Sahores
www.sahores-conseil.com



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Re: RUNREV down?

[sims]

At 2:12 PM +0100 2/8/07, Klaus Major wrote:

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?



Works here...I just got in the house, so maybe it
just came back.

sims
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Re: RUNREV down?

[Ian Wood]

runrev.com is loading here, but veeery slooowly. There have  
been a lot snowstorms across the UK last night and today so that  
could be the cause.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6338151.stm

Ian

On 8 Feb 2007, at 13:12, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: RUNREV down?

[Yves COPPE]

Le 8 févr. 07 à 14:12, Klaus Major a écrit :


Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?



Runs very fine here. What happens ? earthqualke in Germany ?

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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dollar function

[Jeff Honken]

Does anyone have a function or way to verify a dollar amount that has
been entered into a field?  I'd like to check a pattern such  0.00 -
999.99 and make sure they don't put in a $ symbol.  They also need
to put in a negative dollar amount such as -12.36 .Any help would be
greatly appreciated.  
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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Viktoras Didziulis]

In these demos touchscreen is sensitive to multiple touches with fingers in
different places at once. 
V 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: jbv 
Date: 2007.02.08 16:02:05 
To: How to use Revolution 
Subject: Re: Futuristic Interface 
 
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the feeling that there was 
something similar in the interface of the Apple iPhone... at least a 
touchscreen with a GUI that follows closely every finger move... 
 
JB 
 
> With that technology, I would start to wash my hands more often ;-) 
> 
> Viktoras 
> 
> ---Original Message--- 
> 
> From: Alex Shaw 
> Date: 2007.02.08 10:32:44 
> To: How to use Revolution 
> Subject: Futuristic Interface 
> 
> Hi 
> 
> For those interested in interface design.. 
> 
> http://www.bassictech 
>
com/blogs/bassictech_news_blog/archive/2007/01/20/remapping-the-universe-usin

> -this-gui.aspx 
> 
> http://ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=j_han&flashenabled=1 
> 
> Now when will rev be able to do this? :) 
> 
> regards 
> alex 
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Re: RUNREV down?

[Klaus Major]

Hi all you lovely people :-)


Klaus my friend,

just tried and the page opened fine in here... try a traceroute,  
maybe, you're having isp trouble...


Hmm, still not available from here, all other webpages work fine.

"ping" results in 100% packet loss and "trace" hangs at  
"so-3-3-0.mpr2.iah1.us.above.net".


OK, at least I know REV is NOT down.

Too bad, I was exspecting new iPods/Macs :-/
Oh, wait, that was something completely dfferent, and it is thursday,  
not tuesday ;-)



cheers
andre


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de



P.S.
Yves, mon ami, no earthquakes over here in germany!
I am not THAT insensitive, that I would not have noticed that ;-)
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Re: dollar function

[Ian Wood]

'is a number' is probably a good place to start, along with the round  
function.
You can also do a rawkeydown handler on the field to check for  
characters you don't want such as currency symbols.


Ian

On 8 Feb 2007, at 14:05, Jeff Honken wrote:


Does anyone have a function or way to verify a dollar amount that has
been entered into a field?  I'd like to check a pattern such  0.00 -
999.99 and make sure they don't put in a $ symbol.  They also need
to put in a negative dollar amount such as -12.36 .Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Ian Wood]

That's exactly what the iPhone demos have been showing - screen  
typing with multiple fingers at once, and Minority Report-style  
resizing of images using two fingers.


Ian

On 8 Feb 2007, at 14:13, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

In these demos touchscreen is sensitive to multiple touches with  
fingers in

different places at once.
V

---Original Message---

From: jbv
Date: 2007.02.08 16:02:05
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Futuristic Interface

please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the feeling that there was
something similar in the interface of the Apple iPhone... at least a
touchscreen with a GUI that follows closely every finger move...

JB


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Re: dragging question

[marty]

On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


I wrote:

I'm sure I should know how to do this, but.

What would the script be to drag an object (let's call it graphic  
"triangle" or something) when the user clicks and drags on it?


Mark wrote:


on mouseDown
  grab me
end mouseDown


This is exactly what I needed, but couldn't remember the command.

Thanks!
  - marty
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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Thanks, Richmond. Awesome!

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I use Audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

it is Open Source.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.

Joe

On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)

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Op 8-feb-2007, om 5:30 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende  
geschreven:



Hi Everyone,

I've a program in which, rather than have the computer voices  
reading some text, I'd like to have real voices called that would  
speak the text. Presumably, I need to provide audio clips that I  
can call to do this. Any idea how to create them?


I have an old application called SoundEdit that I believe will do  
the job, but it is probably not OSX compatible and I'd have to  
resurrect one of my older Macs to use it. Any Rev compatible tool  
I can use on OSX to do the same thing?


TIA,

Joe Wilkins



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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Andre Garzia]

new macbooks trackpad sense more than one finger too... you can use  
two fingers for scrolling and alternate clicking... this might be  
near...



On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Ian Wood wrote:

That's exactly what the iPhone demos have been showing - screen  
typing with multiple fingers at once, and Minority Report-style  
resizing of images using two fingers.


Ian

On 8 Feb 2007, at 14:13, Viktoras Didziulis wrote:

In these demos touchscreen is sensitive to multiple touches with  
fingers in

different places at once.
V

---Original Message---

From: jbv
Date: 2007.02.08 16:02:05
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Futuristic Interface

please correct me if I'm wrong, but I had the feeling that there was
something similar in the interface of the Apple iPhone... at least a
touchscreen with a GUI that follows closely every finger move...

JB


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Re: RUNREV down?

[Robert Brenstein]

Klaus my friend,

just tried and the page opened fine in here... try a traceroute, 
maybe, you're having isp trouble...


Hmm, still not available from here, all other webpages work fine.

"ping" results in 100% packet loss and "trace" hangs at 
"so-3-3-0.mpr2.iah1.us.above.net".


OK, at least I know REV is NOT down.



I am connecting from Germany as well and it works for me, although 
the initial connection had a long delay.


Instead of ping try traceroute to 66.98.150.41 and compare it to 
traceroute to www.runrev.com. May be it is local dns problem. But 
then may be one of the key routers got hacked again. I am not hitting 
the one you listed.


Robert
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Re: Monitoring local file transfers

[Richard Miller]

This sounds like a viable approach. I've not done this before, but it  
sounds like it could work.

Thanks.
Richard


On Feb 7, 2007, at 9:35 PM, Jim Ault wrote:


On 2/7/07 4:20 PM, "Richard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Chipp,

Thanks for the suggestion. It's what I had been trying before. It
certainly works in terms of transferring the files. But I can't get
it to show the the progress of transferring any given file, like if I
had transferred it from a remote server to my local computer. I'm
using LibURLSetstatusCallBack, but this type of local transfer does
not seem to generate any feedback. Any thoughts?


Local transfer does not  involve the same system procedures. In  
fact, I
think that a temp file is opened for the new file to be written and  
then

renamed as the last step for the user.

Well, I think you could read and write in 'mouthfuls' rather than  
bytes.



open file dorce for binary read
open file dest for append
put 0 into yyy
repeat
   read from file sorce at yyy for xxx --chars from yyy
   write it to file sorce
   add xxx to yyy
   updateProgressCounter
end repeat
close file dest
close file sorce

!! Not the exact syntax, but close to that


Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Alex Shaw]

True, the hardware ultimately is subject to the software (hardware 
people would probably argue the opposite) & the demonstrated interface 
really seems to map to current input devices, eg just with hand/finger 
pressured gestures instead of using a mouse.


I had my first play with MS vista today & it was nice and all but except 
for the visual candy what was ultimately new with the interface?


There are many interesting things with this (touch screen/hardware) 
technology espeicially in the mobile phone industry (ie. iphone) but I 
like the intuitive nature of what is currently being developed. Almost 
physically touching the raw data. Heavily processed of course.


I would say that any current software would be able to be controlled by 
this new kind of hardware input device. The presenter demonstrates a 
browser & a few other things that suggest backward compatibility but 
programs would obviously gain from a bit of recoding to interpret more 
specialised gestures.


regards
alex

jbv wrote:


Alex,


Now when will rev be able to do this? :)



actually, nothing hinders you from developping externals to
achieve a similar result...

JB

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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Devin Asay]

On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:


Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.


He's totally serious, despite the smiley. See the record sound file  
command in the Rev dictionary. I also have a basic introduction to  
the record command at http://revolution.byu.edu/audio/audioIntro.html.


It works pretty well, but has a couple of quirks.

HTH

Devin



Joe

On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)

Mark




Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University

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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Stephen Barncard]

SoundEdit was amazing and well worth it at the time. Packaged with 
MacRecorder, it was more fun than a basket of puppies and my 
introduction to non-linear editing. The staff at A&M Records soon 
tired of my rude sounds for each machine in the recording facility.


Thanks, Stephen. That's a lot better than the $400? I originally 
paid for SoundEdit.


Joe Wilkins



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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Jim Ault]

On 2/8/07 7:10 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> 
>> You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)
>> 
>> Mark

Dictionary
answer record, record sound, recording, recordInput,
stop recording
play, playPaused, playStopped, playLoudness
stop

Lots of good stuff that a beginner might like to know about.  Easy.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Joe,

A little bit of fun, but I assumed you know that Revolution can  
record sound if QuickTime has been installed. Unfortunately, it  
doesn't include editing features, but at least you can record your  
voice.


Best,

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Op 8-feb-2007, om 16:10 heeft Joe Lewis Wilkins het volgende geschreven:


Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.

Joe

On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)

Mark


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RE: finding renamed files

[Mark Powell]

Hello David:

Assuming you are dealing with jpegs only, you could use exif data in
your comparison algorithm.  For example, if you know the source of all
images you can parse the exif data to see if an unknown 'image software
source' field exists.  If yes, then it is deemed to have changed.

Alex Tweedly has a stack "libEXIF" that does this well.  I think it is
in RevOnline.

Mark

 

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Thanks to all who made suggestions re the above.  The detailed files
looked promising, but ultimately a bit disappointing.  Maybe last
accessed might offer something, unless of course the file is renamed
without opening.  Mind you, I am only interested in files renamed
because they *mean* something to the user, so I may well want to ignore
anything renamed without opening.  I will call that a 'feature'  ;-))

I will experiment and see what works best.

Best Wishes,

David Glasgow
Carlton Glasgow Partnership

http://www.i-psych.co.uk
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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Hey, Jim. Thanks, for an upcoming article or two or three in  



Joe Wilkins


On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Jim Ault wrote:


On 2/8/07 7:10 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.

Joe

On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote:


You could use Revolution's sound recording features :-)

Mark


Dictionary
answer record, record sound, recording, recordInput,
stop recording
play, playPaused, playStopped, playLoudness
stop

Lots of good stuff that a beginner might like to know about.  Easy.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: The Scripter's Scrapbook

[FlexibleLearning]

The price is £39.96 using PayPal. It is not a subscription, just the price.  
Simply click the 'Buy Now' button on the web page or follow the built-in link 
in  your trial version.

If you don't have time to fully evaluate within 30  days, wait for 30 days 
after expiry and you can start a new trial period. There  is no limit to this 
'dot one carry one' evaluation.

As far as integration  is concerned, there is full documentation about using 
the Scripter's Scrapbook  as a Rev plug-in as well as using it with any of the 
available standalone  engines for Windows and Macs including a universal 
binary option. Upgrades  retain all your settings, preferences and existing 
content, and saves everything  to a new folder so you always have the older 
version 
to revert to if you  wish.

Others may wish to comment on 'how it works for them'.

With  best regards

/H
www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk.htm
Home of The  Scripter's  Scrapbook



This looks promising for a Chapter or two in the Macinstruct.com   
column I'm writing about Rev. I downloaded the 30 day trial, but   
don't know if I'll get to it in that time frame, and found no price   
for a license. What is the price? And are there any problems or   
concerns with regard to upgrades both for the Scripter's Scrapbook   
and how it integrates with Rev?

TIA,

Joe Wilkins

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Set the script of... not working ???

[David Bovill]

I have a script which is trying to delete handlers from a library -
here are the lines that are not working:

   put the script of scriptObject into someScript
   delete char startChar to endChar of someScript

   put the number of chars of someScript
   set the script of scriptObject to empty
   put someScript
   set the script of scriptObject to someScript

   put merge("Deleted handler '[[handlerName]]'!")

In the message box I get:

  70641

That is the script exits and is not able to set the script to empty or
to anything else. I have never come across this before - but it is a
large script - is there a limit to the how large a script can be for
this to work ???
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Re: Click of field

[André.Bisseret]

Le 8 févr. 07 à 14:37, Jeff Honken a écrit :

I have a multiline field that I would like to send a click to the  
first
line of it when it gets the focus.  I'm using "focus on fld "ABC""  
to go
to the field and it highlights that first line but I need it to  
click on

it too.  Does anyone have any idea on how to do this?
___


Hi,
The following seems to work :

find line 1 of fld "champ"
click at the foundLoc
find empty--to stay in this field

I created a new stack with a fied "champ" (list behavior , multiLine)  
including several lines of text.

and a button with a mouseUp handler containing  the preceeding 3 lines.

As a test, I set the textStyle of line 1 of fld "champ" to "link" and  
In the script of the field "champ", I put the following handler:


on linkClicked thetext
  if theText is not empty then beep 3 --put cr & theText after fld  
"essai2"

end linkClicked

Well, I get the beeps :-)

Hope this helps

Best regards from Grenoble
André



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Re: RUNREV down?

[Marielle Lange]

We had snow indeed in Edinburgh... this started yesterday evening.  
Nice white mantle this morning but it's all gone now :-D


Marielle

On 8 Feb 2007, at 13:12, Klaus Major wrote:


Hi friends,

earthquake or snowstrom in the highlands?

Cannot access the RUNREV website or QAzilla for
the last couple of hours... Any hints?


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Stephen Barncard]

If you have a lot of clips to do, you'll find Sound Studio's Markers 
to Files feature will save a lot of time. Audacity doesn't have that. 
sound studio has a free trial I think.




Thanks, Richmond. Awesome!

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I use Audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

it is Open Source.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: Set the script of... not working ???

[Jim Ault]

My quick guess is that one or more of your handlers make Rev think that the
script cannot be edited and applied.  If you manually open the script editor
for this object, add a character and then apply, are you successful?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


On 2/8/07 9:10 AM, "David Bovill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a script which is trying to delete handlers from a library -
> here are the lines that are not working:
> 
> put the script of scriptObject into someScript
> delete char startChar to endChar of someScript
> 
> put the number of chars of someScript
> set the script of scriptObject to empty
> put someScript
> set the script of scriptObject to someScript
> 
> put merge("Deleted handler '[[handlerName]]'!")
> 
> In the message box I get:
> 
>70641
> 
> That is the script exits and is not able to set the script to empty or
> to anything else. I have never come across this before - but it is a
> large script - is there a limit to the how large a script can be for
> this to work ???


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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

I'll probably try them all and report back in one of my  
Macinstruct.com articles. I have about 100 clips I'm going to want to  
record.


Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

If you have a lot of clips to do, you'll find Sound Studio's  
Markers to Files feature will save a lot of time. Audacity doesn't  
have that. sound studio has a free trial I think.




Thanks, Richmond. Awesome!

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I use Audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

it is Open Source.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Jim Ault]

I trust this will be a Rev stack that we can listen to and won't have to
read. :-)  Not that I am lazy, but if you are going to explore audio, maybe
one of the results could be an example stack.  Later you can sell the DVD of
the directors cut and juicy outtakes.

One tip you might want to use is the "tooltip" for buttons, fields, and
images... for user feedback.  Buttons & icons can be a little cryptic
sometimes.

set the tooltip of btn recordNewClip to "Click once to record, click again
to stop"

...onStartRecoding

set the tooltip of btn recordNewClip to "RECORDING, click again to stop now"

You can also set the tooltip response time, I think.

Have a good time exploring and writing!!

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 2/8/07 11:43 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll probably try them all and report back in one of my
> Macinstruct.com articles. I have about 100 clips I'm going to want to
> record.
> 
> Joe Wilkins
> 
> On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:
> 
>> If you have a lot of clips to do, you'll find Sound Studio's
>> Markers to Files feature will save a lot of time. Audacity doesn't
>> have that. sound studio has a free trial I think.
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks, Richmond. Awesome!
>>> 
>>> Joe Wilkins
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>> 
 I use Audacity:
 
 http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
 
 it is Open Source.
 
 sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
 
>> 
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OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

[Sivakatirswami]

We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station (which we move into a "sound room") where
we run the Keynote with  a high end mic attached to the box
to get a humungous Apple Animation file which we can then
convert to full screen presentation quality for DVD etc.  It works.


We looked into converters before. Total Training production Manager
in New York (if you haven't seen Deke McClelens training videos
you are missing a treat!)  told me they  they used a $25,000
plus video converter for their work but that there were less expensive
models that would still do a good job in the $4,000-6,000 range.
Meanwhile another team member here was talking with Apple Education
dept who recommended a low end model $400.00 or something.
Well guess what, non-profit org bought the $400.00 model.. it was a disaster
we sent it back... Meanwhile we developed the SnapzPro work flow
and did a few productions with that.

So much for history:

SnapzPro recently announced an Intel version which should run on our new
intel machines when they arrive, but I wanted to query the list on hardware
options or software alternatives. We need to be able to dub over
during runtime play-recourd, voice input from an external mic.

All insights, past experience "wisdom" "best directions" etc welcome
email me off list unless you think everyone should hear what you have to
say.

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion box.. but 
I would

be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that SnapzPro
cannot...

Thanks!


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Re: Set the script of... not working ???

[Chipp Walters]

Yeah, I think Jim is correct. Instead of setting the script, copy it
to the clipboard, then create a new button and try pasting it in and
see if it compiles.
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Rev scripting preferences

[Robert Mann]

When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where I was
using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is keeping track
of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a handler
which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be slower, so
my question is where is the best place to put the scripts, buttons, card or
stack script? And what are the benefits or drawbacks of each if any?

 

Thanks

Rob

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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Richard Gaskin]

Robert Mann wrote:

When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where I was
using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is keeping track
of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a handler
which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be slower


If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.  The time to 
call a script further down the message path from the target object is 
such a small fraction of a microsecond that it isn't noticeable.


What else changed in your stack between the time the script was on the 
control and the time it was moved to the stack?


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Unidentified Flickering Menu (UFM) Phenomenon

[Trevor Hopkins]

I've noticed that when I have a menuPick handler running from a menu in the 
Mac menubar, that on occasion, when selecting among options in any given 
menu, the menu bar flickers. That is, I select a new option, the handler 
checks the new menuItem ("!c") and unchecks the previously checked menuItem, 
and in the course of this check/uncheck process, all of the "buttons" in my 
menubar disappear and reappear very quickly.


Can anyone explain the phenomenon I am seeing?

Cheers,

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RE: Rev scripting preferences

[Robert Mann]

Newer version of rev build 291 version 2.7.4


-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Rev scripting preferences

Robert Mann wrote:
> When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where I was
> using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is keeping
track
> of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a handler
> which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be
slower

If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.  The time to 
call a script further down the message path from the target object is 
such a small fraction of a microsecond that it isn't noticeable.

What else changed in your stack between the time the script was on the 
control and the time it was moved to the stack?

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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Luis]

No mention of WireTap Pro?
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php? 
act=module&module=gallery&cmd=sc&cat=3

Cheap and cheerful.

Cheers,

Luis.


On 8 Feb 2007, at 19:43, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

I'll probably try them all and report back in one of my  
Macinstruct.com articles. I have about 100 clips I'm going to want  
to record.


Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

If you have a lot of clips to do, you'll find Sound Studio's  
Markers to Files feature will save a lot of time. Audacity doesn't  
have that. sound studio has a free trial I think.




Thanks, Richmond. Awesome!

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


I use Audacity:

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/

it is Open Source.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson



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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

[Luis]

Hiya,

Would you detail the setup a little more?
To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require  
straight off.


Cheers,

Luis.

On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:


We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station (which we move into a "sound room") where
we run the Keynote with  a high end mic attached to the box
to get a humungous Apple Animation file which we can then
convert to full screen presentation quality for DVD etc.  It works.


We looked into converters before. Total Training production Manager
in New York (if you haven't seen Deke McClelens training videos
you are missing a treat!)  told me they  they used a $25,000
plus video converter for their work but that there were less expensive
models that would still do a good job in the $4,000-6,000 range.
Meanwhile another team member here was talking with Apple Education
dept who recommended a low end model $400.00 or something.
Well guess what, non-profit org bought the $400.00 model.. it was a  
disaster

we sent it back... Meanwhile we developed the SnapzPro work flow
and did a few productions with that.

So much for history:

SnapzPro recently announced an Intel version which should run on  
our new
intel machines when they arrive, but I wanted to query the list on  
hardware

options or software alternatives. We need to be able to dub over
during runtime play-recourd, voice input from an external mic.

All insights, past experience "wisdom" "best directions" etc welcome
email me off list unless you think everyone should hear what you  
have to

say.

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion  
box.. but I would
be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that  
SnapzPro

cannot...

Thanks!


Sivakatirswami
www.himalayanacademy.com

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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Mark Talluto]

On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Robert Mann wrote:
When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where  
I was
using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is  
keeping track
of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a  
handler
which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be  
slower


If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.  The  
time to call a script further down the message path from the target  
object is such a small fraction of a microsecond that it isn't  
noticeable.


You mean further *up* the message pathright Richard?  ;)


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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Stephen Barncard]

no graphical editing features in Wiretap...


While we're at it... how about Garageband?




No mention of WireTap Pro?
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=sc&cat=3
Cheap and cheerful.

Cheers,

Luis.



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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Phil Davis]

Devin Asay wrote:


On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:


Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.


He's totally serious, despite the smiley. See the record sound file 
command in the Rev dictionary. I also have a basic introduction to the 
record command at http://revolution.byu.edu/audio/audioIntro.html.


It works pretty well, but has a couple of quirks.


I agree with Devin - it works well enough to be quite useful.

Using Rev's recording suite, I added a popup recording window to an app one 
client uses to develop training packages. It saved them tons of time by letting 
them record voice audio at the exact training screen where it was needed, and 
"attaching" it to the screen. It completely eliminated all other steps they used 
to go through to get audio files into their training packages.


Now I'm their hero!  :o)

Phil Davis
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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Phil Davis]

Mark Talluto wrote:


On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Robert Mann wrote:

When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where I was
using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is keeping 
track

of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a handler
which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be 
slower


If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.  The time 
to call a script further down the message path from the target object 
is such a small fraction of a microsecond that it isn't noticeable.


You mean further *up* the message pathright Richard?  ;)



To be direction-neutral, one could say it's further *along* the message path. 
But why?  :o)


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Updating Field Message?

[Scott Rossi]

Is any message sent when the content of a field is changed using "put"?

I know about using openField, closeField, exitField, etc messages, but how
do you tell if the contents of a field have changed when new text is "put"
into the field?

  put "hello world" into fld 1

Thanks & Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Sounds like the way to go. I'll give it a try first thing.

Joe Wilkins

On Feb 8, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Phil Davis wrote:


Devin Asay wrote:

On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.
He's totally serious, despite the smiley. See the record sound  
file command in the Rev dictionary. I also have a basic  
introduction to the record command at http://revolution.byu.edu/ 
audio/audioIntro.html.

It works pretty well, but has a couple of quirks.


I agree with Devin - it works well enough to be quite useful.

Using Rev's recording suite, I added a popup recording window to an  
app one client uses to develop training packages. It saved them  
tons of time by letting them record voice audio at the exact  
training screen where it was needed, and "attaching" it to the  
screen. It completely eliminated all other steps they used to go  
through to get audio files into their training packages.


Now I'm their hero!  :o)

Phil Davis
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Re: Updating Field Message?

[Derek Bump]

Scott Rossi wrote:

Is any message sent when the content of a field is changed using "put"?


Well, as I understand it, no... unless you roll your own solution.  I 
felt that a "setProp" message may have been issued, but since setting 
the data of a field is not a custom command, then no dice (an excellent 
feature request though).


I tried to find an answer in the built-in Documentation, but apparently 
you can't view individual objects with a list of all the messages they 
receive.  A nice feature now gone.



Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software
http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com/




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Re: Updating Field Message?

[john]

Hi Scott,

If you sent "put "hello world" into fld 1" to Rev couldn't your next line of 
code be

send "txtUpdated" to fld 1 -- or any trigger message you like

Regards

John


>-Original Message-
>From: Scott Rossi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2007 07:43 PM
>To: 'How to use Revolution'
>Subject: Updating Field Message?
>
>Is any message sent when the content of a field is changed using "put"?
>
>I know about using openField, closeField, exitField, etc messages, but how
>do you tell if the contents of a field have changed when new text is "put"
>into the field?
>
> put "hello world" into fld 1
>
>Thanks & Regards,
>
>Scott Rossi
>Creative Director
>Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

[Sivakatirswami]

Luis wrote:

Hiya,

Would you detail the setup a little more?
To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require 
straight off.


Cheers,

Luis.


1) Presentations are created in Keynote

2) At the end of the KeyNote, you want to just hand out to the audience
the presentation on a DVDs.

3) It obviously does not have the audio by the presentor.

4) We have been recording the presentation "live" in studio a
setting while running the Keynote and capturing this with SnapzPro.
It works fairly well. We were able to go up to nearly 30 minute and
the G 5 handled it pretty well.

Does that help?





On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:


We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station 

[snip]

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion box.. 
but I would

be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that SnapzPro
cannot...

Thanks!

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Re: Updating Field Message?

[Jim Ault]

On 2/8/07 4:43 PM, "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is any message sent when the content of a field is changed using "put"?
> 
> I know about using openField, closeField, exitField, etc messages, but how
> do you tell if the contents of a field have changed when new text is "put"
> into the field?
> 
>   put "hello world" into fld 1

There are a couple-three ways that I can think of even though I have not
done them:

local xPrevFld1  --for this script container
1  on idle --stack script/card script
if fld 1 is not xPrevFld1 then
put fld 1 into xPrevFld1

2  on setProp > >
here you would put the following at every point you make the change:

set the cpNewFld1Text of fld 1 to "A bee can do evasive flying"

--in the stack script trap this specific prop
setProp cpNewFld1Text newString
   put the cpNewText of fld 1 into fld 1
  --send the message you want, or
  --handle the event here

  --do nothing else since Rev will not actually set the prop
  --if you abstain from passing the setProp message
end setProp
---
3  send "updateMe newText" to fld 1
which has an updateMe handler that can pass a message after a "put"

Of these three I like   #2 best.

Now listening for other better methods :-)

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Richard Gaskin]

Robert Mann wrote:
>>> When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right
>>> where I was using them such as in the button, the problem I
>>> was having is keeping track of all the globals I was
>>> generating so I started to then call a handler which I then
>>> put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be slower
>>
>> If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.
>>  The time to call a script further down the message path
>> from the target object is such a small fraction of a
>> microsecond that it isn't noticeable.
>>
>> What else changed in your stack between the time the script
>> was on the control and the time it was moved to the stack?
>
> Newer version of rev build 291 version 2.7.4

Newer than what?  Which version had you been using before?

Also, what does the script do?

If it's creating or manipulating graphic objects and the former version 
was pre-2.7, chances are the speed difference is just the antialiasing 
in v2.7, which you can govern with the objects' antialias property.


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Re: Creating Audio Clips

[Jim Ault]

On 2/8/07 4:25 PM, "Phil Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Devin Asay wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
>>> Mark, I assume you're poking fun? If not, tell me more.
>> He's totally serious, despite the smiley. See the record sound file
>> command in the Rev dictionary. I also have a basic introduction to the
>> record command at http://revolution.byu.edu/audio/audioIntro.html.
>> It works pretty well, but has a couple of quirks.
> 
> I agree with Devin - it works well enough to be quite useful.
> Using Rev's recording suite, I added a popup recording window to an app one
> client uses to develop training packages. It saved them tons of time by
> letting 
> them record voice audio at the exact training screen where it was needed, and
> "attaching" it to the screen. It completely eliminated all other steps they
> used 
> to go through to get audio files into their training packages.
> 
> Now I'm their hero!  :o)

I agree with you, Phil
This is how I record annotations for some web content I want to use in the
future.  I save the audio file in an "audio folder" in the same folder as
the web assets, and time stamp it by  (the seconds &

--start button script
on mouseup
  put the filename of this stack into thisPath
  set the itemdel to "/"
  delete the last item of thisPath
  put the seconds & "snd.aiff" into FN
  put thisPath & "/" & FN into pathFN
  answer "Are you ready to record ?  "& pathFN
  record sound file pathFN
  --optional: make the sound of a ticking clock
  --so that the user knows that studio time is
  --very expensive
end mouseup

--stop btn script
on mouseup
  stop recording
end mouseup

I am sure that Devin's version of things is much better and complete, since
this is something I did about 2 years ago and need to get back to.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Richard Gaskin]

Mark Talluto wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> The time to call a script further down the message path from
>> the target object is such a small fraction of a microsecond
>> that it isn't noticeable.
>
> You mean further *up* the message pathright Richard?  ;)

Nope.  As Jerry would say, I'm an earth worshiper. :)

In the olden days when the world was fixated on tree diagrams, many 
xTalk teachers used to draw them like trees, with the bottom being the 
start and the top being the end.  Maybe some still do.


But personally I find a tree a less fitting metaphor than pachinko, or 
any system involving things just naturally falling and sometimes 
catching on other things.


I find the top-to-bottom flow gets picked up more easily than 
bottom-to-top, for three reasons:


1. Describing the path of a message is telling a story of that message's 
journey.  Whether through diagrams or words, readers tend to look for 
the start of a story at the top of the page.


2. Everyone understands gravity.  It's a natural downward flow.  I tend 
to visualize messages as being dropped; some meet with objects on the 
way down and get handled, others fall through all the way to the ground. 
 This also helps learners understand "send":  it's not part of the 
natural flow (the "message path"), and requires effort like reversing 
the effect of gravity by throwing a ball in the air.


3. Top-to-bottom representations leverages the concept of "top-down", 
the latter being a common reference to understanding software from the 
perspective of the user experience.  Messages in Rev tend to flow in a 
way that roughly correlates with the visual representation; objects in 
front get the message first, then the card behind them, etc.  For those 
used to thinking in terms of "top-down" and "bottom-up" (nostly 
Rev-as-a-second-language learners), this fits in quite nicely.


When I first started teaching HyperTalk back in '87 I used to use the 
upside-down diagram.  But for the last decade or more I've adopted the 
one that seems simpler to grasp:




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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Jim Ault]

"Along" is correct if you consider the classic analogy used since the Middle
Ages... before the world was fixated on tree diagrams

There were four men standing at a bar waiting for their drinkto come
sliding along (sideways, not up or down)... Mr. Button, Mr. Group, Mr. Card,
and Mayor Stack, in that order.  Obviously it was the bartender who started
the 'messages' on their way, but sometimes they were passed along by the
patrons.  Frequently there was the request to "send another drink to the
blonde lady in the pink blouse" and then "along" becomes "over"

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 2/8/07 4:29 PM, "Phil Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark Talluto wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> 
>>> Robert Mann wrote:
 When I started with rev I was putting all the scripts right where I was
 using them such as in the button, the problem I was having is keeping
 track
 of all the globals I was generating so I started to then call a handler
 which I then put in the card script, but now my stack seems to be
 slower
>>> 
>>> If your stacks seem slower there's something else at play.  The time
>>> to call a script further down the message path from the target object
>>> is such a small fraction of a microsecond that it isn't noticeable.
>> 
>> You mean further *up* the message pathright Richard?  ;)
> 
> 
> To be direction-neutral, one could say it's further *along* the message path.
> But why?  :o)
> 
> Phil Davis


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Re: Futuristic Interface

[Mark Wieder]

Andre-

Looking for a futuristic interface?



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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

[Chipp Walters]

Camtasia is the industry standard on the PC side, and they've recently
announced a version for the Mac, though I'm not sure if it's ready.
They have really really nice editing software and can deliver in many
ways including QT, Flash and other formats.

HTH,
Chipp
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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

[Chipp Walters]

It appears their Mac only version is still in beta.

On 2/8/07, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Camtasia is the industry standard on the PC side, and they've recently
announced a version for the Mac, though I'm not sure if it's ready.
They have really really nice editing software and can deliver in many
ways including QT, Flash and other formats.

HTH,
Chipp


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extraction of Mac revZipped file blocked on Win

[Phil Davis]

Has anybody else run into this?

On my Mac, I wrote code that uses the revZip library to create an archive from a 
folder full of files and subfolders. It works great! Then I copied the 47mb .zip 
file up to my NAS and down to Windows. I tried to extract all files using the 
standard Win 'compressed file' tool and got a message from Windows saying 
extraction was blocked because the compressed files were considered 'not safe' 
by Windows Firewall. This wasn't a message FROM the firewall; it didn't look 
like those.


OK, I changed my zip file permissions on Mac, copied it over to Win again, got 
same result.


Finally I downloaded a trial version of StuffIt Expander for Windows and tried 
using it with my file. It worked without a hitch, hiccup or notice of any kind! 
And of course all the files I had zipped are there on Windows now in perfect order.


Bottom line:
Can anyone offer a clue as to what caused my original problem?

FWIW, My Mac user account has admin privileges, as does my Win acct.

Thanks -
Phil Davis
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[OT] TEST EMAIL

[sims]

Test
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copy using the frontmost window

[sims]

[Apologies if this email appears twice...first attempt did not seem 
to go through]


My goal is to get the hilited text from a field onto the clipboard in Windows.

With Applescript, the following does a 'command key C' or copy which gets the
hilited text of the frontmost window in OS X:

tell application "System Events"
key code 8 using command down
end tell

It copies the hilited text from the frontmost window.

Is there a way to do this with Windows? I don't want to load any 
third party apps
to do this.  If Windows has a built-in means, comparable to the 
Applescript above

it would be great...but it must also be available in Vista.

I did find a promising 3rd party app called TXMouse, which copied any 
hilited text

to the clipboard. This proved to present quite a few 'challenges'  & surprises.

I'd like to have something built into my app if possible...I'd use a 
.dll if available.
Would anyone be interested in making a .dll to do this...if that is 
what is required?


Suggestions?

sims
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Re: Rev scripting preferences

[Mark Talluto]

On Feb 8, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Nope.  As Jerry would say, I'm an earth worshiper. :)


I suppose that makes me a sky worshiper. :)

You could say that a prayer (message) starts on the ground by an  
individual (control).  The message hopefully makes it upwards to  
ultimately God (stack script).

Just having some fun here.


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Re: copy using the frontmost window

[J. Landman Gay]

sims wrote:

My goal is to get the hilited text from a field onto the clipboard in 
Windows.


With Applescript, the following does a 'command key C' or copy which 
gets the

hilited text of the frontmost window in OS X:

tell application "System Events"
key code 8 using command down
end tell

It copies the hilited text from the frontmost window.

Is there a way to do this with Windows?


If you mean getting text from a Rev field, you can do it with native 
scripting on any platform:


 set the clipboardData to the selectedtext of fld 1

You can put other stuff in the clipboard too, if you use array notation:

 set the clipboardData["image"] to img 1
 set the clipboardData["RTF"] to the RTFText of field 1

See "clipboardData" in the docs. You can "get" the clipboardData too.

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Built-in patterns

[J. Landman Gay]

I've got a graphic with its foregroundpattern set to 9, one of the 
built-in patterns in the IDE. I always thought these were part of the 
engine. But when I build a standalone, there's problems.


On OS X, the graphic draws pure white. On Windows, it crashes the whole 
app the moment I make the graphic visible.


It looks like the patterns are not being included in the standalone. 
Anyone have experience with this? Am I going to have to hunt down the 
pattern and include a copy in my stack? The standalone builder doesn't 
have an option to copy them over, and to be honest, I always thought 
that was unnecessary.


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Re: copy using the frontmost window

[sims]

At 12:02 AM -0600 2/9/07, J. Landman Gay wrote:
My goal is to get the hilited text from a field onto the clipboard 
in Windows.


With Applescript, the following does a 'command key C' or copy which gets the
hilited text of the frontmost window in OS X:

tell application "System Events"
key code 8 using command down
end tell

It copies the hilited text from the frontmost window.

Is there a way to do this with Windows?


At 12:02 AM -0600 2/9/07, J. Landman Gay wrote:
If you mean getting text from a Rev field, you can do it with native 
scripting on any platform:


Thanks for the reply.

Nope...I mean telling the frontmost application to do a copy.
The above applescript will tell whatever is the frontmost app to do a 
'command C'
from its menubar. So, my Rev app is able to tell any application to 
copy the hilited text

if it has access to System Events in OS X.

sims
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