Re: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens
From: "Tiemo Hollmann TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just for my interest, what is the advantage of using a separate splash stack instead of using a splash card or splash image/graphic in mainstack? There must be some, which I don't see. If you are using stacks a a file format for data storage it's a handy way of creating, loading etc of the data while the splash is showing. It has other uses in that you can put back and front scripts in there to inject into your other stacks (particularly file based ones etc) making the external stacks self healing. Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux and After
From: "Sarah Reichelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bob seems to be back, so everyone needs to be careful. Unfortunately, trying to help him can be very harmful. I replied with earnest not realizing it was him. When you first pointed this out I was very angry at him for a while for sucking me in. Then I went to his website (and I don't mind if he quotes me in big red letters across the length and breadth of the internet on this one) and downloaded some of his software into a VM (one can't be to careful). I then realized, on running said software, why he is having so much of an issue with programming and felt sorry for him rather than angry anymore. It isn't the programming language that's at fault, it's him, based on how his software runs. He not only breaks every HIG rule on Windows - he even uses *Lime* colored labels for his UI. Programming 101. Lime labels are the hallmark of complete newbs - emphatically so when combined with black backgrounds. The obvious exceptions being some multi-media applications and games. > Scott Kane Moderator comp.software.shareware.* ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens
Just for my interest, what is the advantage of using a separate splash stack instead of using a splash card or splash image/graphic in mainstack? There must be some, which I don't see. Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Scott Kane Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2007 08:32 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens From: "Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > on closeSplash > hide this stack with visual effect dissolve > wait 1 second # adding this wait did not help > open stack tLocation > end closeSplash Here's what I do... On PreOpenStack send DissolveSplash to me in 2 seconds end PreOpenStack on DissolveSplash repeat while the blendlevel of this stack < 100 set the blendLevel of this stack to the blendLevel of this stack + 1 end repeat set the visible of stack "Your Main Stack" to true -- or any other method you are using. Close this Stack end DissolveSplash Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens
From: "Sivakatirswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on closeSplash hide this stack with visual effect dissolve wait 1 second # adding this wait did not help open stack tLocation end closeSplash Here's what I do... On PreOpenStack send DissolveSplash to me in 2 seconds end PreOpenStack on DissolveSplash repeat while the blendlevel of this stack < 100 set the blendLevel of this stack to the blendLevel of this stack + 1 end repeat set the visible of stack "Your Main Stack" to true -- or any other method you are using. Close this Stack end DissolveSplash Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Differences in Usage Between Platforms: Was:Striped Background in OS X Revisited
From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm interested in learning more about this, being mostly Mac-oriented myself. Could you (or anyone) sketch out what you see as the differences in behavior and general usage between the platforms? That's a facinating but very deep question. I could write pages! However I'll resist the temptation and summarize some of most significant things and we can discuss other things later on... First and foremost we can look at how Steve J steers the ship. I think his perspective on computing in general is the key. The Apple vs PC adds make this very clear but the most succinct example is the IPod. "A thousand songs in your pocket" was the opening marketing gambit. Simple. Elegant and right to the point and more importantly - *fun*!! Think now about the Apple vs PC adds and you'll notice the emphasis is largely on getting it done simply without complication. "It just works". The Apple OSX UI is simple. It expands the classic Mac interfaces and, to my mind, streamlines them. Most often when I talk about this PC programmers (and technically I am one of them) yell at me that the OSX (i.e. Aqua) UI is "just eye candy". This is all to often the only argument that is levelled and it is in fact the crux. The "eye candy" is what makes the experience so darn nice. It's simple and elegant. Compare a Windows program to a Mac program. Windows programmers, no disrespect meant, write incredibly complex and deep programs. Everything goes in there. This is great if you are a computer programmer or tech type (maybe - as there are plenty of programmers and tech types who prefer a Mac) but for average users all to often they never use all the functions. Creating a deeply complex application on a Mac is quite a challenge (I'm reffering to a program exceeding 150,000 lines of code not including that generated automatically by RAD IDE's). The Mac interface seems to limit one in the available options for doing it without breaking the HIG. However - as one studies the Mac and really gets into the HIG one finds this isn't as much a problem as one might first believe - but that's not the point here. The point here is that every aspect of the Mac UI is about the "user experience". Aqua is pleasing to the eye. Grey (Windows prior to Vista) is utilitarian. It actually is fun to use a Mac. So it tends to attract people who just want to "get on with it" and "have fun". Windows Vista literally rips bleeding chunks off the Mac paradigm in an attempt to access this market segement - and fails. Vista does lots of cool fun things - but it falls short of being really "fun". Mac icons are chunky (in a nice way) with smooth drawing and are very clear (the defaults being larger in size than a pre-Vista desktop). This ties directly to usability as it is easy to identify as opposed to the Windows 32 x 32 standard icons (now larger on Vista). Vista even adopted the slight angling of the Mac icons and light source. Again this is to create a "fun" factor and probably to a larger extent increase identification and therefore usability. When a Windows 3.11 or below user ran a program they would know to explore the program menu of a new program. Just like Mac users know to explore the menu. Windows 95 + users tend to have no such concept. This is because Windows 3.11 and before has a menu structure like the Mac. It was always there and adapted when you loaded a program. I have taught IT with Windows machines over the years at TAFE colleges here as well as running beta tests for my various software products over the years. Overwhelmingly Windows users now ignore the menu (and accellerators and other keyboard shortcuts) and search the toolbar. Time and time again I've been told the program needs such and such a feature. The feature is there - but it's not on the toolbar and therefore the user intuits it as not present. Psychology of usage really is the key to this issue though, and probably the most generally interesting. On a PC you are supposed to *work*. The PC market is flooded with utilties, office suits and even programming languages. I'm yet to hear a PC user, however, wax lyrically over an FTP tool like Mac users do over Transport. You never see the wars on the PC platform like you see from Mac users over Mac Soup. On Windows you can break just about any HIG rule with impunity. Most users simply don't get it the way Mac people do. This of course is risky as your original widget control might not be intuitive and may cost you sales from confusion - but generally not because you broke the HIG as such. I learnt this on the Mac very quickly however because one beta tester said (and all the other Mac users responded in kind) "we don't want no stinking Windows program". My software relied heavily on the Treeview control on Windows and the toolbar paradigm. My Mac users rejected the treeview outright (al
Re: Any Good Using QTVR in Rev Tutorials?
On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Judy Perry wrote: Was in a complete panic this afternoon because I couldn't get one of Scott Rossi's cool-looking gauge things to work. Felt like a complete idiot. I used to always feel like an idiot whenever I looked at Scott's work. The trick for me now is to feel inspired instead of hopeless;-) Scott does fantastic work. sims Custom Software Development www.EZPZapps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Good Using QTVR in Rev Tutorials?
Thanks, Jim. Will do. Was in a complete panic this afternoon because I couldn't get one of Scott Rossi's cool-looking gauge things to work. Felt like a complete idiot. Then noted that, after several frantic emails to Scott, I had mispelled *gauge* @;-) Judy On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Jim Sims wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:43 AM, Judy Perry wrote: > > > I have a QTVR movie made from stitched panoramic images. Works > > fine in QT > > in that you can zoom in and out, and move left and right by using the > > mouse. > > > > How can I get it to do likewise in Rev on a Mac? Does it involve > > setting > > the pan and tilt properties? > > > See Also: nodes property, pan property, tilt property, zoom property > > > sims > Custom Software Development > www.EZPZapps.com > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Any Good Using QTVR in Rev Tutorials?
On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:43 AM, Judy Perry wrote: I have a QTVR movie made from stitched panoramic images. Works fine in QT in that you can zoom in and out, and move left and right by using the mouse. How can I get it to do likewise in Rev on a Mac? Does it involve setting the pan and tilt properties? See Also: nodes property, pan property, tilt property, zoom property sims Custom Software Development www.EZPZapps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Any Good Using QTVR in Rev Tutorials?
Or even suggestions? I have a QTVR movie made from stitched panoramic images. Works fine in QT in that you can zoom in and out, and move left and right by using the mouse. How can I get it to do likewise in Rev on a Mac? Does it involve setting the pan and tilt properties? TIA, Judy ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The Art of Dissolving Splash Screens
I know I could just use Ken Ray's Stack runner, but I'm interested in the art of splash screens that load a "mainstack" I can't get my splash screen to appear and then gracefully dissolve before showing the main stack (which needs to save data) In fact, the splash screen stack doesn't even make an appearance -- which is cool in a way, but if you wanted to the do the "branding" thing and have it appear a bit before hand... it's not happening.) What am I doing wrong here? Looks simple enough local tLocation on openstack put the effective filename of me into tLocation set the itemdel to "/" delete item -1 of tLocation put "/data/Morph-Text.rev" after tLocation send "CloseSplash" to me in 2 seconds end openstack on closeSplash hide this stack with visual effect dissolve wait 1 second # adding this wait did not help open stack tLocation end closeSplash Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux and After
This appears to be another post to the list from "Last Post" Bob. To paraphrase the late great Douglas Adams: "Ah. This must be some new meaning of the word "last" I was previously unaware of." Bob seems to be back, so everyone needs to be careful. Unfortunately, trying to help him can be very harmful. Regards, Sarah On 6/28/07, Bob Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A few of my hopes: 1. Rev have committed themselves to substantiating their support for Linux which began about 2 years ago. Quite right. No self-respecting RAD programming system can do without it nowadays. I hope that release 2.9 that is planned to actualize Linux is the best release ever. 2. Thereafter, I hope that Rev's production becomes regularized and is therefore more comfortable for those doing the production. 3. I hope that fewer bugs are produced and that beta testing is quicker and simpler for everyone. 4. I hope that bugfixes can be returned to users as soon as they are ready. 5. I hope that documentation is even more complete, so that users (especially new ones) can maintain their dignity by not having to ask for personal help regarding simple fundamentals. 6. I hope that Rev's product is as successful in the future as we all know it has the potential to be. 7. I hope that as a result of achieving the above, discussion about these aspects will no longer be necessary. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text#2
Fred moyer wrote: I'm not at all a pro at scripting, and I wrote it for my own use, so the scripting is pretty tortured, plus I can't guarantee that there aren't any more bugs(!) Very nice, thanks for sending it out. I originally fed it some weirdly-wrapped text with lots of too-long words in it, which caused the scrolling field do some pretty weird things, but if you give it text in normal paragraph blocks, it works great. Into my scrapbook it goes with the other one. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Striped Background in OS X Revisited
Scott Kane wrote: The way most Mac users interface with their desktop is very different to how Windows users do it. I'm interested in learning more about this, being mostly Mac-oriented myself. Could you (or anyone) sketch out what you see as the differences in behavior and general usage between the platforms? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Linux and After
From: "Bob Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5. I hope that documentation is even more complete, so that users (especially new ones) can maintain their dignity by not having to ask for personal help regarding simple fundamentals. It is my hope that new users (and all users) can drop the whole concept of it being undignified to ask for personal help regarding fundementals or otherwise. Nobody knows it all. Nobody. But accumulated knowledge and study are what the entire IT industry (programmers and otherwise) thrive on and is the best path usually to innovation. Just my AU five cents worth. Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Striped Background in OS X Revisited
- Original Message - Some of the most loyal MS enthusiasts have set them back the farthest. I remember reading an early Windows C programming book by a leading MS API author (Pretzold maybe?) who described the then-new Windows GUI as if it were some sort of necessary evil that was going to require a lot more work from developers than DOS, rather than as a revolution to be embraced. Yes. That was pretty much the consensus at that time. A lot of it came from the incredible overhead needed in managing windows instead of overlays (which was trivial in DOS). It wasn't until tools like VB, Delphi and later C++ Builder that this became easier (easier than in DOS actually) to manage windows etc. Fortunately for both the Windows-only crowd and us multi-platform folks, MDI is fading away. The Win guidelines released shortly after Win 95 officially deprecated MDI, although in their classic Do As I Say Not As I Do form they've used it for years since. But the reasoning given for the deprecation was sound: MDI is a sort of mixed metaphor, and in testing users find it measurably more confusing than SDI or multi-pane alternatives. It's fading for certain - but the core desktop is still based on the principle which causes many issues. To design single interfaces with one window that has mutiple functions (imbedded windows) takes a lot of coding for most languages - as opposed to Rev where it is automatic due to the stack and card paradigm. It may take a while to see the eventual purging of legacy MDIs from common use, but it bodes well for us multi-platform types: Indeed. One of the biggest challenges in designing a complex cross platform UI is how differently each platform address' it. On a Mac the menu bar is a known and expected quantity and part of the Mac "experience". All users know it can (and probably does) contain additional tools and modules. However on Windows (and to some degree *nix) the menu is frequently ignored as toolbars tend to rule and users fail to intuit the menu bar. Apple's already standardized on Intel processors and multi-button mouse functionality. When the Windows crowd drops MDI completely and Apple moves the menu bar to the top of the window, most significant differences between GUIs will do away. There will still be room for distinction, but it will be more like comparing different cars than comparing cars and trucks. I'm not sure how this move from menu at top of desktop to menu at top of window is going to go over. One of the things about the menu on window is the room for breaking standards and reducing intuition. As a programmer I can see real benefits - but I'm not so sure users currently will see those same benefits. The way most Mac users interface with their desktop is very different to how Windows users do it. I'm not saying your wrong - rather it's fraught with some risk in usability. As GUIs continue the inevitable adoption of universal standards, our work becomes ever easier. That is certainly true. That is, until something comes along that has such revolutionary new and compelling benefits over current GUIs as the GUI did over the command line. Then we'll have another two decades of challenges until the world standardizes once again. Indeed. But I do wonder what that is. Thanks. With just a little visibility I'd like to believe that the two most pervasive hurdles to cross-platform HIG compliance (window backgrounds and system fonts) can be simple set-once-and-forget-about-it properties in v2.9. Fonts are a very important one. Rev renders fonts terribly in Windows IMHO but is superb under OSX. To RunRev to do anything less would make life harder than it needs to be for their company. I agree! Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Linux and After
A few of my hopes: 1. Rev have committed themselves to substantiating their support for Linux which began about 2 years ago. Quite right. No self-respecting RAD programming system can do without it nowadays. I hope that release 2.9 that is planned to actualize Linux is the best release ever. 2. Thereafter, I hope that Rev's production becomes regularized and is therefore more comfortable for those doing the production. 3. I hope that fewer bugs are produced and that beta testing is quicker and simpler for everyone. 4. I hope that bugfixes can be returned to users as soon as they are ready. 5. I hope that documentation is even more complete, so that users (especially new ones) can maintain their dignity by not having to ask for personal help regarding simple fundamentals. 6. I hope that Rev's product is as successful in the future as we all know it has the potential to be. 7. I hope that as a result of achieving the above, discussion about these aspects will no longer be necessary. Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text#2
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:18:35 -0400, Fred moyer wrote: > It's a low-tech solution to text justification that manipulates the > textsize of spaces. It doesn't justify on the fly like Brian's script > (very nice, Brian!) Rather, it justifies a finished field. Sweet, Fred! I just tested it on a couple of fields, and it works great! Thanks for the contribution, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text#2
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:18:35 -0400, Fred moyer wrote: > Hi: > > I saw that I finally had something to contribute to the list and so > sent a script in -- just 20 minutes ago, and then immediately found a > bug in it, plus noticed that some characters might not to paste > correctly (for example: the character for "is less than or equal > to".) I've written to the use-revolution-owner to kill the email; but > if it goes through, please disregard that script! Try this one > instead. Whoops! Sorry, Fred... forget what I said in my response to your first post... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: character to justify text
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:08:53 -0400, Fred moyer wrote: > if fh ≤ FieldTextHeight then Be carefuly with less-than-or-equal-to, greater-than-or-equal-to, or not-equals single character symbols. Although they might work on a Mac, they most likely won't work on Windows. Better to use the generic "<=", ">=" and "<>". Just FYI, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text#2
Hi:
I saw that I finally had something to contribute to the list and so
sent a script in -- just 20 minutes ago, and then immediately found a
bug in it, plus noticed that some characters might not to paste
correctly (for example: the character for "is less than or equal
to".) I've written to the use-revolution-owner to kill the email; but
if it goes through, please disregard that script! Try this one instead.
It's a low-tech solution to text justification that manipulates the
textsize of spaces. It doesn't justify on the fly like Brian's script
(very nice, Brian!) Rather, it justifies a finished field.
Here are some features:
- doesn't require any special stack preparation (adding images, etc.)
- preserves textstyles
- allows the last straggling line in a paragraph to remain unjustified.
- and it allows for hyphenation, which means that you don't end up
having huge spaces between words. (Note: you might not even see this
feature unless you are justifying thin text fields.)
I'm not at all a pro at scripting, and I wrote it for my own use, so
the scripting is pretty tortured, plus I can't guarantee that there
aren't any more bugs(!) Also, I do encounter issues with text that I
paste into fields from the Web or even other Mac applications (where
for example I find what looks like a space is actually numtochar(202).)
But I hope it might be useful to others.
Fred Moyer
-
Note: it does add "- " (dash and two spaces) inside hyphenated
words. So, in order to get back to the original text, I suggest:
on GetRidOfHyphens fid
put the htmlText of fld id fid into hText
replace "- " with "" in hText
set the htmlText of fld id fid to hText
end GetRidOfHyphens
on justify fid
set the cursor to watch
lock screen
set the fixedLineHeight of fld id fid to true
set the backColor of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put the htmlText of fld id fid into hText
replace "- " with "" in hText
set the htmlText of fld id fid to hText
set the fixedLineHeight of fld id fid to true
set the backColor of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put fld id fid into FieldPlainText
---set the textsize of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put the number of chars in FieldPlainText into numberOfCharsInFld
put the effective textheight of fld id fid into FieldTextHeight
put the effective textsize of fld id fid into EffectiveTextSize
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put 1 into CurrChar
put 1 into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
put empty into CharNoForLastSpaceInLine
put trunc(EffectiveTextSize * .6) into SmallSpaceSize
if SmallSpaceSize < 8 then put 8 into SmallSpaceSize
---put "yes" into isThereAMax
--- = NO WHEN HYPHENATION IS NOT POSSIBLE AND YOU HAVE TO JUST GO
FOR IT
put 0 into charsToSkip
--- NEXT LOOP MAKES ALL SPACES IN THE FIELD A BIT SMALLER THAN NORMAL
repeat
put offset(" ",FieldPlainText,charsToSkip) into o
if o = 0 then exit repeat
set the textsize of char charsToSkip + o of fld id fid to
SmallSpaceSize
put charstoSkip + o into charstoSkip
end repeat
repeat
put "normal" into status
--- try to find the current "line" meaning: which words take up
one line
---put "yes" into isThereAMax
put char CurrChar of FieldPlainText into c
if c is in (" " & return) then
put the formattedHeight of char CharNoForFirstCharOfLine to
currChar of fld id fid into fh
if fh <= FieldTextHeight then
if c = return then
add 1 to currChar
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
else
put currChar & "," after listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar into CharNoForLastSpaceInLine
--- WE NEED TO STORE THIS VALUE BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OVER
INTO TWO LINES, WE'LL NEED
--- TO REMEMBER THE LAST SPACE CHAR WHERE IT WAS JUST ONE
LINE
add 1 to currChar
end if
else
--- ALL OF THE FOLLOWING HAPPENS IF THESE WORDS TAKE UP TWO
LINES:
put last item of listofSpacesinThisLine into saveForHyphenation
delete last item of listofSpacesinThisLine
if listofSpacesinThisLine is empty then
--- THERE ARE NO SPACES IN THIS LINE!
--- WILL HAPPEN IF that line consists of only a return
--- OR MAYBE A REALLY REALLY LONG WORD!
--- SO START WITH THE NEXT LINE
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar + 1 into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
put CharNoForFirstCharOfLine into currChar
else
--- STEP 1: MAKE SPACES BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL WE'RE INTO
2 LINES
put SmallSpaceSize into ts
repeat
add 1 to ts
if ts > EffectiveTextSize * 2 and status = "normal" then
--- WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN IF THE TEXTSIZE OF A SPACE
GETS TOO BIG
--- SO AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO HYPHENATE
Re: what gives with this function?
Jim Lambert wrote: Hi All, Here's a function that goes either in the card script or the stack script. function whatGives what return what end whatGives Make a field "myFld" Make a button having this script: on mouseUp put whatGives(random(999)) into fld "myFld" end mouseUp Click the button and random numbers appear in the field as expected. But call the function from the message box: put whatGives(random(999)) into fld "myFld" and lo! nothing gets put in the field however the value returned from whatGives appears in the message box. Why isn't the returned value placed in the field? What gives? I think it's just a limitation on single-line messages. Even if you split it up into two statements separated with a semicolon, it doesn't work: get whatGives(random(999)); put it into fld "myFld" -- fails If you move it to the multi-line message box, the one-line statement above still doesn't work, but if you split it into two lines, it does: get whatGives(random(999)) put it into fld "myFld" The message box uses a "do" statement to execute its commands. As a guess, maybe there's a limitation on the number of nested functions the "do" command can handle simultaneously. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
re: character to justify text
I was just working on this justification problem 2 weeks ago and came
up with the following low-tech solution that manipulates the textsize
of spaces. This script:
- doesn't require any special stack preparation (adding images, etc.)
- preserves textstyles (except textsize.)
- allows the last straggling line in a paragraph to remain unjustified.
- and it allows for hyphenation, which means that you don't end up
having huge spaces between words.
This solution doesn't justify on the fly like Brian's script (very
nice, Brian!) There are also a few other bells and whistles I need to
add. But if this script is helpful, please use it. Also there may be
bugs in it -- I wrote it just for my own use. To use it just use
"justify " and the short id of the field.
Note: it does add "- " (dash and two spaces) inside hyphenated
words. So, in order to get back to the original text, I suggest this
script:
on GetRidOfHyphens fid
put the htmlText of fld id fid into hText
replace "- " with "" in hText
set the htmlText of fld id fid to hText
end GetRidOfHyphens
on justify fid
set the fixedLineHeight of fld id fid to true
set the cursor to watch
lock screen
set the backColor of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put " " into strangeCharThatLooksLikeASpace
put the htmlText of fld id fid into hText
replace strangeCharThatLooksLikeASpace with " " in hText
replace "- " with "" in hText
set the htmlText of fld id fid to hText
set the fixedLineHeight of fld id fid to true
set the backColor of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put fld id fid into FieldPlainText
---set the textsize of char 1 to -1 of fld id fid to empty
put the number of chars in FieldPlainText into numberOfCharsInFld
put the textheight of fld id fid into FieldTextHeight
put the effective textsize of fld id fid into EffectiveTextSize
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put 1 into CurrChar
put 1 into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
put empty into CharNoForLastSpaceInLine
put trunc(EffectiveTextSize * .6) into SmallSpaceSize
if SmallSpaceSize < 8 then put 8 into SmallSpaceSize
---put "yes" into isThereAMax
--- = NO WHEN HYPHENATION IS NOT POSSIBLE AND YOU HAVE TO JUST GO
FOR IT
put 0 into charsToSkip
--- NEXT LOOP MAKES ALL SPACES IN THE FIELD A BIT SMALLER THAN NORMAL
repeat
put offset(" ",FieldPlainText,charsToSkip) into o
if o = 0 then exit repeat
set the textsize of char charsToSkip + o of fld id fid to
SmallSpaceSize
put charstoSkip + o into charstoSkip
end repeat
repeat
put "normal" into status
--- try to find the current "line" meaning: which words take up
one line
---put "yes" into isThereAMax
put char CurrChar of FieldPlainText into c
if c is in (" " & return) then
put the formattedHeight of char CharNoForFirstCharOfLine to
currChar of fld id fid into fh
if fh ≤ FieldTextHeight then
if c = return then
add 1 to currChar
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
else
put currChar & "," after listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar into CharNoForLastSpaceInLine
--- WE NEED TO STORE THIS VALUE BECAUSE WHEN WE GO OVER
INTO TWO LINES, WE'LL NEED
--- TO REMEMBER THE LAST SPACE CHAR WHERE IT WAS JUST ONE
LINE
add 1 to currChar
end if
else
--- ALL OF THE FOLLOWING HAPPENS IF THESE WORDS TAKE UP TWO
LINES:
put last item of listofSpacesinThisLine into saveForHyphenation
delete last item of listofSpacesinThisLine
if listofSpacesinThisLine is empty then
--- THERE ARE NO SPACES IN THIS LINE!
--- WILL HAPPEN IF that line consists of only a return
--- OR MAYBE A REALLY REALLY LONG WORD!
--- SO START WITH THE NEXT LINE
put empty into listofSpacesinThisLine
put currChar + 1 into CharNoForFirstCharOfLine
put CharNoForFirstCharOfLine into currChar
else
--- STEP 1: MAKE SPACES BIGGER AND BIGGER UNTIL WE'RE INTO
2 LINES
put SmallSpaceSize into ts
repeat
add 1 to ts
if ts > EffectiveTextSize * 2 and status = "normal" then
--- WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN IF THE TEXTSIZE OF A SPACE
GETS TOO BIG
--- SO AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO HYPHENATE
--- FIND WORDTOBEHYPHENATED
put char CharNoForLastSpaceInLine + 1 to currChar - 1
of fieldPlainText into WordToBeHyphenated
repeat for each item i in listofSpacesinThisLine
set the textsize of char i of fld id fid to
SmallSpaceSize
end repeat
put 0 into hyphenTries
put the htmltext of char CharNoForFirstCharOfLine to
currChar - 1 of fld id fid into HTMLLinePlusExtraWord
repeat
set the backcolor of char CharNoForLastSpa
Re: Texas Flood
Jerry and Chipp, glad you guys are ok. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI question: http "PUT" and "DELETE"
On 27/06/07, Andre Garzia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's fairly easy. If you're serving using apache just check the $REQUEST_METHOD environment variable, it will contain the method used to access your cgi. Like: switch $REQUEST_METHOD case "POST" -- do post stuff break case "PUT" -- do put stuff break case "DELETE" ... and so on... hope I helped. Yes indeed. Does libUrl do http Put and Delete - put and delete examples are all ftp that I can see? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
On 27 Jun 2007, at 18:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Remember, also, that you can use Safari to read PDFs. You can, but I'm not sure what the benefit would be. Either you don't have the Adobe Reader plug-in installed, in which case you are using *exactly* the same rendering engine as Preview but without the navigation controls, search, zoom functions etc. Or you have the Adobe Reader plug-in and are getting almost identical results to opening the file directly in Reader. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Texas Flood
I had a classic come-uppance about ten years ago. I was in Los Angeles during December, and there were some fairly heavy rains. There were power-cuts, the roads were flooded, cars were sliding around like snowboards -- chaos. I and the other brits I was with were laughing at these silly angelenos who couldn't cope with a spot of rain - (which is all it was, by our standards). I came home to London for xmas, and we had perhaps an inch of snow. The trains didn't run. Cars were sliding down hills straight into the backs of buses. People were stranded at work with no way home - people were stuck at home with no way to get to work -- chaos. I had to laugh some more Glad you're all ok, Mark On 27 Jun 2007, at 21:31, Jerry Daniels wrote: We drive like idiots in the rain. Every so many years it freezes and then we drive suicidally. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
Thanks, that is some good info to know. -=>JB<=- === On Jun 27, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: With all due respect to Apple's Preview I do find that Adobe Reader tends to do a better job. Remember, also, that you can use Safari to read PDFs. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI question: http "PUT" and "DELETE"
David, it's fairly easy. If you're serving using apache just check the $REQUEST_METHOD environment variable, it will contain the method used to access your cgi. Like: switch $REQUEST_METHOD case "POST" -- do post stuff break case "PUT" -- do put stuff break case "DELETE" ... and so on... hope I helped. Andre On 6/27/07, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I want to create a Rev based CGI - and I know how it works with an http "POST" or "GET" - but is there a way to do http "DELETE" and "PUT" (not http) - and if so how do you write the cgi to handler these http requests? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
what gives with this function?
Hi All, Here's a function that goes either in the card script or the stack script. function whatGives what return what end whatGives Make a field "myFld" Make a button having this script: on mouseUp put whatGives(random(999)) into fld "myFld" end mouseUp Click the button and random numbers appear in the field as expected. But call the function from the message box: put whatGives(random(999)) into fld "myFld" and lo! nothing gets put in the field however the value returned from whatGives appears in the message box. Why isn't the returned value placed in the field? What gives? Thanks In Advance, Jim Lambert P.S. OSX 10.3.9 Rev Studio Build 471 vers 2.8.1 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Scripter's Scrapbook 5.2.11 Update
www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk or www.ssBk.co.uk UPDATE AVAILABLE Thanks to continued feedback and the support of Scrapbook users, an incremental update has been uploaded and is now available. For full release notes including all improvements and bugfixes see http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbk/ReadMe.html. THE SCRIPTER'S SCRAPBOOK v5.2.11 Update released 27-JUN-2007 This is mainly a maintenance release, but a few important issues have been addressed. The most important is full keyboard support for all Windows users in Europe who rely on the AltGr modifier key for their language and special characters. This has taken a long time to resolve. We hope you will try the system again and enjoy the results. We are also happy to announce version 1.2 of the Scripter's Scrapbook API with improvements to the command set, supported by an updated Handbook (both the interactive version and the online documentation). For full details of all improvements and bugfixes, see the release notes at the above web page or click the "What's New..." button when you check for an update. YOUR NEXT STEP - Registered and Trial users should update through the Help menu or in the Preferences. - New users and those interested in reviewing the changes since an earlier trial may obtain a free 30-day starter-kit at www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk. You will be asked if you wish to obtain the most recent version, and if there is one it can be automatically downloaded for you. - Full size screen shots for both Mac OSX and Windows XP are at www.FlexibleLearning.com/ssbk/preview including useful mouse shortcuts illustrations. FEEDBACK As always, if you have a moment to suggest improvements or request additional features we would very much appreciate your feedback at www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbkFeedback.htm Hugh Senior FLCo Home of the Scripter's Scrapbook ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Texas Flood
Stephen, Here in the Austin area (Central Texas) we've had rain almost every day for, well, it seems like a week now. The ground here is uncharacteristically water logged, so any new rain will pool and cause "flash" flooding rather quickly now. Our streams (which as Chipp has pointed out) are usually dry this time of year and everything has a dusty or brown color to it. Not the case this Summer so far. I feel like I'm living in Houston...not a good thing for an Austin person to say, in terms of weather, anyway. We are having no flooding here or in town where my son and daughter live. Like Chipp, we live on the Southwestern edge of the metro area. And there is no flooding here, either. Thanks for your concern. We have had continuous power, internet and even some sunshine (today). If you want to get a taste of Central Texas with lots of rain, just listen to Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Texas Flood"...he says it better than anyone. Well worth the purchase, btw. Central Texan's really just can't believe it will ever really rain. We drive like idiots in the rain. Every so many years it freezes and then we drive suicidally. Best, Jerry & Family On Jun 27, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: There's a major flooding situation going on in Texas right now, around the Austin areait's really bad. I hope Chipp and Jerry are ok... sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text
We're good here. Just NW of us received 19 inches of rain in 8 hours or so. Wow. Texas weather is funny. Mostly by now all the grass is brown from lack of rain, but this year we've finally gotten caught up. Good for the livestock and pastures. Sounds like Jerry's alright too as he's SE of us and has already emailed me today. Thanks for your concern, Stephen. On 6/27/07, Stephen Barncard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's a major flooding situation going on in Texas right now, around the Austin areait's really bad. I hope Chipp and Jerry are ok... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
On 6/27/07 11:31 AM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> With all due respect to Apple's Preview I do find that >> Adobe Reader tends to do a better job. > > Adobe takes forever to load. I'll stick with Preview...it's quick and > light and has a wonderful print preview function. Path Finder:preferences:applications => ckbox for open PDF in path finder works a little quicker than Preview for me, and Print:Print preview opens in Apple Preview Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Unit Tests
Ignore this if your not into this sort of thing - it's overkill for most things - I'm just adding it as polish. I have just started working on adding Unit Tests to the open source handler library. I am just going to hack it right now by taking the basic framework I had in my old offline library and essentially doing the same online using Rev cgi's. I've done a little research to catch up on the latest developments - but nothing much has turned up so i am keeping it simple at the moment based around - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUnit. The idea I am working on at the moment is that the handlers are kept as text files on the server and that these text files also include a full suite of tests to run against the hander. Changes or improvements to a handler can then be tested locally by fetching the tests and data from the server, and if the new version passes the tests uploaded where it will again be tested and run against the server before committing it to subversion. The embedded test suite also includes internal references to values used in the tests and the values of the results that pass the tests. To make development of test easier there will be a Rev client that allows creating and running simple scripts against the handler, and throwing a bunch a default data at it. Finally if the handler has any dependencies (ie it calls other handlers in the hierarchy) these are fetched and added to the script - so that the whole test is self contained. I'd like to add benchmarking and other features to this stack if there are any samples knocking around that I can freely incorporate . Also if anyone has any real experience of unit tests in other languages it would be good to get some tips - in fact ideally the tests would be described in a semi-language neutral way - so that the same test could be run against various languages using the same data and speed, legibility and other factors could be compared - but AFAIK these things remain language specific? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
With all due respect to Apple's Preview I do find that Adobe Reader tends to do a better job. Adobe takes forever to load. I'll stick with Preview...it's quick and light and has a wonderful print preview function. Remember, also, that you can use Safari to read PDFs. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PDF Manual
With all due respect to Apple's Preview I do find that Adobe Reader tends to do a better job. Remember, also, that you can use Safari to read PDFs. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List Fields and clickLine
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:05:39 -0500, Randy Hengst wrote: > Click to highlight the choices to make sure things work as expected, > then leave choice 1 or 2 highlighted and click in the blank area > below choice 3. Using very small increments, click in the blank space > below choice 3 and move up until it highlights. If choice 3 is put, > try again using smaller increments. There is an area just below the > line where choice 3 will highlight, but the clickline reports empty. Rev used to have a bug where if you clicked in an area below the choices, the last choice would automatically highlight, but the clickLine will still be empty. This has been fixed, but it seems there's still this bug left over. Because of the earlier bug, I've always put in an explicit "set the hilitedLines of me to empty" in my mouseDown trap when the clickLIne is empty. This is of course a workaround, and I still think you should log the bug in Bugzilla, but it works for me: on mouseDown if the clickLine is empty then set the hilitedLines of me to empty --<< add this beep else put the value of the clickLine end if end mouseDown Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
CGI question: http "PUT" and "DELETE"
I want to create a Rev based CGI - and I know how it works with an http "POST" or "GET" - but is there a way to do http "DELETE" and "PUT" (not http) - and if so how do you write the cgi to handler these http requests? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: The MacOS installer could have done all of this for you -- move the files, set all your settings, and create a clean system. MacOS X cannot be treated like Mac OS9 when it comes to moving files around. Permissions have to be just right. (it's UNIX, ok?) The disk utility in Utilites can fix the permissions. This is really beyond the scope of this list and all this info is online elsewhere. stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - I used the disk utility to fix the permissions and it didn't work. Then I used my original OS X 10.4 to upgrade it didn't work. Here is a simple fix that is not beyond the scope of any list. In the finder go to the file you want to open. Select it and get the info. Choose Open With: I wanted to open a PDF file so it should have said Preview for the application I want to use to open that type of file. That is what it did say but when I looked at the list of apps to choose from ColorSync was near the top. I chose to open with Preview even though it already was chosen. Problem Solved. Easy Fix! regards, -=>JB<=- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDeleteFolder and revCopyFolder with Vista
> Hmm - revCopyFolder works for me on Vista HP; I made a simple stack > with one button: > > on mouseUp > answer folder "Pick a folder:" > if it <> "" then > revCopyFolder it,(it & "Copy") > end if > end mouseUp > > Clicked the button, selected a folder, and it worked - what are you > experiencing? The resulting error is due to the use of the folder Program Files in the file path: I am using a localized version of Vista in Italian language: I have this system path c:\Programmi\... If I use revCopyFolder "c:\Programmi\MyFolder", "c:\" it works but if I use revCopyFolder "c:\Programmi\MyFolder", " c:\Programmi\MyFolder\a" it doens't work and the result is 4. The following command is ok: revCopyFolder "c:\Programmi\MyFolder", " c:\Program Files\MyFolder\a" Obviously it is not the same with XP. I would like to avoid the problems about the virtualstore location that you have explained in your post, by using C:\ as the default folder where the application is installed. Is it a good idea? Thanks Riccardo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
List Fields and clickLine
Hi All, I've been lurking on the list for about a year and a half. During that time I've been translating stacks I made using HyperStudio -- which used a logo-based scripting language -- into Rev. I pretty much can now create anything in Rev I could have made with HyperStudio. I've found (as you know) that Rev is much more powerful. I've begun playing with list fields this past week and was able to create basic drag-lines-within-a-field -- script. With the help up Scott Rossi's getInLine stack, Jan Schenkel's dragDropList stack and the recent discussion about colorizing lines in a field (thanks to Jim Ault for sending his stack to me) I've been able to develop a nice working version. However, I've noticed an anomaly that I thought I was causing be adding text and returns and removing characters in my list field. However, I've been able to reproduce the problem in a new list field with no additions beyond the default three choices. Here's the problem. In a list field it is possible to highlight the last line without the clickline reading any data. I've been able to reproduce the problem this way. Create a new stack, create a list field, drag the height enough to have room for several blank lines -- but don't add any lines of text to the default three choices. Use this script in the field: on mouseDown if the clickLine is empty then beep else put the value of the clickLine end if end mouseDown Click to highlight the choices to make sure things work as expected, then leave choice 1 or 2 highlighted and click in the blank area below choice 3. Using very small increments, click in the blank space below choice 3 and move up until it highlights. If choice 3 is put, try again using smaller increments. There is an area just below the line where choice 3 will highlight, but the clickline reports empty. I noticed the problem while using Rev 2.8.1 on a PowerBook G4 with OSX 10.4.10. I've also been able to reproduce the problem using Rev 2.7.4 Any thoughts would be appreciated. take care, randy hengst ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
put or get URL
Yesterday my _put URL "website" into card field F1_ statement worked fine, as it has for several months. I use it up front to test the connection. Unsophisticated, yes. Today, nothing happens. I've tried resetAll and variations of Load and Get. Nothing. URLstatus says "error", but I can't get the libURLErrorData. ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
Thanks. -=>JB<=- On Jun 27, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: The file lost it's association with its application. Open file info for the file and look for the "Open with" popup. Your method of upgrading was probably to blame. In OSX you can't just finder-copy all the files back into a volume and expect them to all work. You need to use a utility like carbon copy cloner http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html (free) or FoldersSynchronizer (paid) from root. The MacOS installer could have done all of this for you -- move the files, set all your settings, and create a clean system. MacOS X cannot be treated like Mac OS9 when it comes to moving files around. Permissions have to be just right. (it's UNIX, ok?) The disk utility in Utilites can fix the permissions. This is really beyond the scope of this list and all this info is online elsewhere. I was going to try some of the ideas about text justification and went to look in the manuel to see how to resize images to fit & now my PDF viewer shows something called the colorsync utility. I can hardly read my pdf files and it comes up no matter what pdf I open. I am not blaming this on Rev but I don't know how to fix it. I recently updated from OS X 3.9 to OS X 4. It worked for awhile & then started crashing. I finally made a backup of my drive, erased everything and did a new install. Then I had to copy a lot of my files back to the new drive. I probably screwed something up but I don't know what. Anyone know how to get rid of the ColorSync Utility when I open up a PDF file. I can't read the manuel this way. thanks, -=>JB<=- -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: PDF Manual
The file lost it's association with its application. Open file info for the file and look for the "Open with" popup. Your method of upgrading was probably to blame. In OSX you can't just finder-copy all the files back into a volume and expect them to all work. You need to use a utility like carbon copy cloner http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html (free) or FoldersSynchronizer (paid) from root. The MacOS installer could have done all of this for you -- move the files, set all your settings, and create a clean system. MacOS X cannot be treated like Mac OS9 when it comes to moving files around. Permissions have to be just right. (it's UNIX, ok?) The disk utility in Utilites can fix the permissions. This is really beyond the scope of this list and all this info is online elsewhere. I was going to try some of the ideas about text justification and went to look in the manuel to see how to resize images to fit & now my PDF viewer shows something called the colorsync utility. I can hardly read my pdf files and it comes up no matter what pdf I open. I am not blaming this on Rev but I don't know how to fix it. I recently updated from OS X 3.9 to OS X 4. It worked for awhile & then started crashing. I finally made a backup of my drive, erased everything and did a new install. Then I had to copy a lot of my files back to the new drive. I probably screwed something up but I don't know what. Anyone know how to get rid of the ColorSync Utility when I open up a PDF file. I can't read the manuel this way. thanks, -=>JB<=- -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Secrets of the filter command?
Thanks, Jim. Glad to see you're hard at work close to midnight! I hit the sack early, but am now up and at em. Joe Wilkins On Jun 26, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Jim Ault wrote: On 6/26/07 11:25 PM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the reminder Jacqui and Jim. "Snake" was probably a name I gave it; perhaps not, but it did "snake" through all of the scripts. I didn't realize that the Rev. "Find and Replace..." is that versatile; but, then, I've never tried it. (smile) Of course, one of the reasons I didn't think it would be as useful is because I thought that would mean treating each thing that was found in the same manner. With the HC routine, you could edit the scripts in which the item was found in any manner you wanted. just double click on the line in the found list and edit to your hearts content. The list lets you see the number of script containers found, and lets you choose which ones to bother with and in which order. Editing is no different than HC, except that in Rev you will use the Find in the script window to actually locate the strings you want to edit. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PDF Manuel
I was going to try some of the ideas about text justification and went to look in the manuel to see how to resize images to fit & now my PDF viewer shows something called the colorsync utility. I can hardly read my pdf files and it comes up no matter what pdf I open. I am not blaming this on Rev but I don't know how to fix it. I recently updated from OS X 3.9 to OS X 4. It worked for awhile & then started crashing. I finally made a backup of my drive, erased everything and did a new install. Then I had to copy a lot of my files back to the new drive. I probably screwed something up but I don't know what. Anyone know how to get rid of the ColorSync Utility when I open up a PDF file. I can't read the manuel this way. thanks, -=>JB<=- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text
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On 27 Jun 2007, at 03:31, Kay C Lan wrote: On 6/26/07, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and Apple moves the menu bar to the top of the window, It's all a bad dream, make it go away...It's all a bad dream, make it go away... it's all a bad dream...;-) Richard, this is the 2nd time you've mentioned this in about as many many weeks. If anyone from Apple HIG is reading this PLEASE ignore. Yes i noticed this too. My guess is that Richard believes that placing the menubar on top of the screen is loosing him speed. That might be true or not, but to me it is irrelevant. In my oppinion, GUI's are not mainly about speed, but about usability (seasoned CLI users always have been faster then the fastest GUI users in tests). The infinite clickable area size of the Mac OS menubar however is of course much more usable then a tiny stripe somewhere on the screen which Windows endorses. Playing into this might also the difference in mouse speed acceleration used on Windows vs. that used on Mac OS. I always have to readjust my aiming for the difference. (I think Windows uses a linear one, whereas Mac OS is para- or hyperbolic). -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL "http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev"; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text
JB, The imageSource is a good way to go since a 1 pixel blank graphic will not display differently on different systems and the imageSource object does count as one character when counting characters in a field. Check it out and see if it will work for you. Tom McGrath On Jun 27, 2007, at 12:05 AM, Jim Sims wrote: On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:56 AM, -= JB =- wrote: On Jun 26, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: It would be totally nuts, but have you thought about using HTMLTEXT and a single pixel transparent graphic? stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - I haven't really done much with HTML TEXT but that may be a way to go. Might imageSource be of help? "Use the imageSource property to display a picture or icon inside a text field." sims Custom Software Development www.EZPZapps.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: character to justify text
Hi, you can try adjusting the size of space characters like this: repeat with i=1 to the number of chars in fld "fText" set the textSize of char x of "fText" to y end repeat where char x is space character and y is a number between 4 and whatever the upper limit is... If the fixedLineHeight of field is set to true, then the only thing that changes would be the width of space character. The hard point here is to get a length of a text line in pixels so you could calculate the necessary size of space character for each line. As I imagine first you would need to find the longest line in the field and then justify the remaining lines in relation to this maximum. Of course you may try creating an index of all possible characters and their widths for different fonts and sizes, then get the length of line in characters and use the index to sum up the length in pixels... Then find a difference subtracting length of current string from maximum length, counting number of spaces in a line and then calculate what size all space characters should be set to compensate for the difference. In principle not so hard once you know a way to measure absolute length of text string in pixels. All the best! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Kay C Lan Date: 27/06/2007 05:43:10 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: character to justify text On 6/27/07, -= JB =- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem with making a font and > then using my own character it would change the character count. > Of course I could easily add the character and then subtract it but > who knows what other weird things I might find. One thought, if you're going to go to all the trouble of making your own font, is to include several versions of the space character, ie a 3 pixel space, a 4 pixel space, etc etc. Maybe accessible via spacebar = 3px, option+spacebar = 4px, shift+option+spacebar = 5px. Then I assume a simple 'repeat for each' replacing each standard 3px space with a 4px space until you get to the required width, and if you replaced all in a line and it still wasn't wide enough you go on to 5px, 6px etc etc. That way the char count wouldn't change. Just a thought, but then again, the thought of creating a font from scratch seems pretty daunting to me ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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"Twaddle" or not, my original posting under this heading demonstrates, if nothing else, the large gap between what is said about "protecting people's rights" (and, despite Rawls and so on, one should remember that 'rights' have no objective reality) and what actually happens is vast. There are a number of postings on the web floating around about various things I got up to in Germany about 20 years ago (!); I believe that they misrepresent what I was doing quite badly. I saw them first in 1993, and they are still around (they are to do with my "previous life" as a cult-deprogrammer). So, what do I do? Well, they are there; and people can read them and form their own opinions - I have no qualms about what I did. So, everytime somebody brings these matters up; depending on the circumstances I either: 1. Say nothing and smile, 2. Say "Well I feel fine", or 3. Go into a long and slightly pompus disquisition about morality, laws and rights. What is perhaps the most interesting fact about this situation of mine is that I continue to lead a happy life, while the miserable sausages who have been posting incorrect things about me don't seem to be doing so terribly well. So, the fact that "sunny-Jim" has smeared "poo" around the internet about various hard-working individuals should not really fuss anybody unduly. I suspect that all that "sunny-Jim" has done in the long run is damaged himself. After all; its "untrue poo": isn't it? Outside it is a lovely day; I'm off for a walk in the park, breathe the fresh air and watch the wonderful panoply of life! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
