Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[Richard Gaskin]

David Bovill wrote:


On 13/07/07, Richard Gaskin  wrote:


That Bluetooth is merely discoverable doesn't seem alarming in itself.
Where I'm concerned is that a stranger can not only upload files to the
target computer but also execute them.


Do you know that to be the case?


All I know about this alleged security breach is what you've written in 
your descriptions of it.


If I've understood this correctly, the reported issue involved strangers 
uploading and playing files on your computer without your permission or 
even knowledge.  Perhaps I misunderstood.


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the last newsletter....

[Peter Alcibiades]

Yes, its looking very good.  It was getting to be essential to have some 
communication on it, and this is most encouraging.

The Gtk dialogues will greatly improve the end user experience.  Looking 
forward to this one.  Thanks to Heather for the update.

Peter
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Re: Why Save the Mac Mini

[Judy Perry]

Paul,

Perhaps I can cast votes legitimately for both of my 6-y.o. children?
And less legitimately for our six chihuahuas?  @;-)

Rats.  That's still only 8.

No, I don't disagree with the 30" screens note, only that, well,
"that'll be the day" budget-wise for our department.

Judy

On 7/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Judy,
Sorry for the misapprobation and thanks for the vote.
I suspect that, the way things are going, secretaries really will need 30"
monitors in the (not to distant) future. ;-)
When/if the time comes, I hope we don't have to buy Mac Pros to power them.
Can you get nine more votes for "Save the Mini"? I think 10,000 is the magic
number and I'm sure a lot of Mini advocates are not even aware of the petition:

www.petitiononline.com/macminsa/petition.html

Maybe we should have said "Save the Mini for the kids!" Thank you, again.
Paul Looney




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Re: What I did with Rev last night

[Dom]

Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ...if I understand this properly, I think you're looking for the "filter"
> command:
> 
> filter tList with "Photo*"

replaced 10 lines of script with only one ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: The Real Revolution

[Scott Kane]

To: "How to use Revolution" 

+10 to Chipp, and I'm from another dang planet. No need for that stuff 
being on the Rev list... WOT - Way Off Topic


Not to worry - he's unsubscribed.  I know this because he just sent me an 
email telling me so.  I'm not sure why he felt it necessary to email me but 
there you go.  Now we can talk about Rev again!!:-)


Scott Kane 


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Re: The Real Revolution

[Jim Sims]

On Jul 14, 2007, at 6:52 AM, Scott Kane wrote:

+1 for Chipps sugestion and I'm neither religious nor American.  We  
don't need this (and thanks to Chipp for stepping in as I put off  
recommending exactly the same thing for the last hour or so).



+10 to Chipp, and I'm from another dang planet. No need for that stuff
being on the Rev list... WOT - Way Off Topic

sims
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Re: The Real Revolution

[Scott Kane]

From: "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Heather, please step in and kill this very offensive thread now, before it 
gets out of control.


+1 for Chipps sugestion and I'm neither religious nor American.  We don't 
need this (and thanks to Chipp for stepping in as I put off recommending 
exactly the same thing for the last hour or so).


Scott Kane 


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Re: The Real Revolution

[Chipp Walters]

Joe, can't we keep the discussion to something *close* to technology
and RunRev?

Do you have so little respect for those devout in their beliefs who
frequent and help this forum as to post such an atheist and conspiracy
point of view video?

Many of those same people help you learn how to solve problems in Rev.
Do you really think a simple sensationalist Google video (which has so
low a standard as it is presently being debated on whether to delete
it from Wikipedia) would change a devout or patriotic person's
opinion, based on clicking a link from this Use-List?

What a supreme insult.

Why can't you just do like others and create your own blog and fill it
with your own viewpoints?

Heather, please step in and kill this very offensive thread now,
before it gets out of control.

-Chipp

On 7/13/07, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I hope all of you will take the time to view this movie. It is
important. Initially, it may rub some of you the wrong way, but keep
an open mind. Please!

You won't regret it!

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Re: the last newsletter....

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Good going, Andre!

Joe Wilkins

On Jul 13, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:


Guys,
have you seen the last newsletter...

I am almost in tears of happiness...

:-D

Cheers
andre


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The Real Revolution

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

I hope all of you will take the time to view this movie. It is  
important. Initially, it may rub some of you the wrong way, but keep  
an open mind. Please!


You won't regret it!

Joe Wilkins


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Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

[Chipp Walters]

That's certainly good news for iPhones owners!

On 7/13/07, wouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

FYI  :   http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2007/07/
iphonebattery/index.php

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the last newsletter....

[Andre Garzia]

Guys,
have you seen the last newsletter...

I am almost in tears of happiness...

:-D

Cheers
andre
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Re: Referencing a stack that is not open

[David Bovill]

It loads the stack into memory and keeps it there. You will see this if you
check the "mainstacks". This is not the same as an "open" stack which you
can check using the "openstacks".

Every time Rev gets a property (even if it checks whether a stack exists) it
"loads" the stack into memory - you have to "unload" it using the very badly
named "delete stack" syntax if you want to be picky about memory.

In practical terms there is not much difference between an open stack that
is not visible and a "loaded" stack that is not open.

Hope that helps :)


On 14/07/07, Dan Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello!

Can anyone tell me what exactly happens when you ask for information about
a
stackfile that is not open?  For example, say on your desktop you have a
stackfile named "testStack.rev" and you call this:

put the customKeys of stack "/Users/Jimbo/Desktop/testStack.rev"

Rev WILL report the correct data.  However, the stack doesn't appear to
have
actually been opened.  What actually happens?  Did Revolution read the
entire stack file, get the requested data, then flush it from memory?  Did
it read only what it needed?

Any insight would be appreciated.

Dan


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Referencing a stack that is not open

[Dan Friedman]

Hello!

Can anyone tell me what exactly happens when you ask for information about a
stackfile that is not open?  For example, say on your desktop you have a
stackfile named "testStack.rev" and you call this:

put the customKeys of stack "/Users/Jimbo/Desktop/testStack.rev"

Rev WILL report the correct data.  However, the stack doesn't appear to have
actually been opened.  What actually happens?  Did Revolution read the
entire stack file, get the requested data, then flush it from memory?  Did
it read only what it needed?

Any insight would be appreciated.

Dan


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Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[David Bovill]

On 13/07/07, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



That Bluetooth is merely discoverable doesn't seem alarming in itself.
Where I'm concerned is that a stranger can not only upload files to the
target computer but also execute them.



Do you know that to be the case? I still don't know how George Clooney ended
up speaking to me without my permission - but I did get a flash of something
that looked like a file transfer dialog. This time I got the usual "do you
want to accept dialog" allowing me to cancel.
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Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[Richard Gaskin]

Jim Ault wrote:
On 7/13/07 2:53 PM, "David Bovill"  wrote: 

Very good idea Richard! Do they have an emergency phone line?


No but I hear they leave Bluetooth on discoverable.


That Bluetooth is merely discoverable doesn't seem alarming in itself. 
Where I'm concerned is that a stranger can not only upload files to the 
target computer but also execute them.


There's the generic OS X feedback form:


But to ensure appropriate escalation it may be good to contact your 
regional Apple headquarters for contact advisement.


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Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[Jim Ault]

On 7/13/07 2:53 PM, "David Bovill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Very good idea Richard! Do they have an emergency phone line?
> 

No but I hear they leave Bluetooth on discoverable.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas


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Re: Mixed textstyle

[David Bovill]

Cancel that: I just need to look at the linktext of the clickchunk...

On 13/07/07, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If the textstyle of the clickchunk is "mixed" - what's the easiest way to
determine if it is "linked"? I can look at the htmltext of the clickchunk...
but is there something elegant?


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Mixed textstyle

[David Bovill]

If the textstyle of the clickchunk is "mixed" - what's the easiest way to
determine if it is "linked"? I can look at the htmltext of the clickchunk...
but is there something elegant?
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Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[David Bovill]

Very good idea Richard! Do they have an emergency phone line?

On 13/07/07, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



This is a very rare and extremely serious vulnerability.  Perhaps you
should send the details to Apple so they can address it.

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Re: RC4 Implentation from pseudocode

[Mark Smith]

Javier, I guess you missed my earlier post, so here it is again:

function rc4 pText, pKey
  -- initialize
  repeat with i = 0 to 255
put i into S1[i]
  end repeat

  put 0 into i
  repeat with n = 0 to 255
add 1 to i
if i > length(pkey) then put 1 into i
put charToNum(char i of pKey) into S2[n]
  end repeat

  put 0 into j
  repeat with i = 0 to 255
put (j + S1[i] + S2[i]) mod 256 into j
put S1[i] into temp
put S1[j] into S1[i]
put temp into S1[j]
  end repeat

  -- encrypt/decrypt
  put 0 into i ; put 0 into j
  repeat for each char c in pText
put charToNum(c) into tChar

put (i + 1) mod 256 into i
put (j + S1[i]) mod 256 into j
put S1[i] into temp
put S1[j] into S1[i]
put temp into S1[j]
put (S1[i] + S1[j]) mod 256 into t
put S1[t] into K

put numToChar(tChar bitXor K) after tOutput
  end repeat

  return binToHex(tOutput)
end rc4

function binToHex pString
  repeat for each char c in pString
get charToNum(c)
put baseConvert(it,10,16) into tTemp
if it < 16 then put "0" before tTemp
put tTemp after tHex
  end repeat
  return tHex
end binToHex

Best,

Mark Smith


On 13 Jul 2007, at 20:16, Javier Miranda wrote:

Can this "pseudocode" be implemented using Revolution? It´s an  
encryption
alogorithm called Alleged RC4, there are a number of base  
convesions and
module operations, also there is array manipulation.  Itried and  
failed

miserably.


FUNCION CifrarMensajeRC4(string Mensaje, string Key ) : string

NUMERO State[256], X = 0, Y = 0, Index1 = 0, Index2 = 0 , NMen, I

string MensajeCifrado = ""
INICIO


PARA I = 0 HASTA 255 HACER

State[I] = I
FIN PARA


PARA I = 0 to 255

Index2 = ( ObtieneASCII(key[Index1]) + State[I] + Index2 ) MODULE 256

IntercambiaValor( State[I], State[Index2] ) // exchange variable  
values


Index1 = (Index1 + 1) MODULO lenght(Key)
FIN PARA


PARA I = 0 to lenght(Mensaje)-1

X = (X + 1) MODULO 256

Y = (State[X] + Y) MODULE 256

IntercambiaValor( State[X] , State[Y] )

NMen = ObtieneASCII(Mensaje[I]) XOR State[(State[X] + State[Y])  
MODULE 256]


MensajeCifrado = MensajeCifrado + "-" +
RellenaCero(ConvierteAHexadecimal(NMen))  // add a 0 if its only  
one char in

the string
END PARA


RETURN ObtieneSubCadena(MensajeCifrado, 1, LargoCadena 
(MensajeCifrado) - 1);


end FUNCION
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Re: Defining constants

[Mark Schonewille]

yes

Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

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http://differsifier.economy-x-talk.com



Op 13-jul-2007, om 22:40 heeft Gregory Lypny het volgende geschreven:


Hello everyone,

Are constants defined using the Constant command within a script  
but outside of the handlers of the script local to the script?   
(That was a mouthful.)


Gregory



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Defining constants

[Gregory Lypny]

Hello everyone,

Are constants defined using the Constant command within a script but  
outside of the handlers of the script local to the script?  (That was  
a mouthful.)


Gregory
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Re: OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[Richard Gaskin]

David Bovill wrote:

Thought - I'd share this :)

I'm 8 floors up. And maybe, just maybe, I've found my hacker. Kids I guess -
somewhere down on the street - but 8 floors below? And over blue tooth? Well
- that will teach me to leave blue tooth on discoverable - here's just
hoping that it's only mp3's they have been sending me!


This is a very rare and extremely serious vulnerability.  Perhaps you 
should send the details to Apple so they can address it.


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OT: my friendly blue tooth hacker

[David Bovill]

Thought - I'd share this :)

I'm 8 floors up. And maybe, just maybe, I've found my hacker. Kids I guess -
somewhere down on the street - but 8 floors below? And over blue tooth? Well
- that will teach me to leave blue tooth on discoverable - here's just
hoping that it's only mp3's they have been sending me!
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Re: launch app from browser

[David Bovill]

Thanks!
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Re: launch app from browser

[viktoras didziulis]

David, trap reloadStack message:

on reloadStack
end reloadStack

this will prevent two main stacks with the same name from being open 
simultaneously.


Best wishes
Viktoras



David wrote:

The question I have is if you want to get the html link to open a rev
document - either by your application or the IDE - it seems on tests
on OSX to open multiple instances of the application and not let the
application open multiple stacks. I know this can be got around using
text files to implement locks - and I remember some issue and I think
IDE or engine enhancements to work with these issues - but can't find
them :)

How do you get an html link to a .rev file not to open multiple
instances of the app?

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Re: [OT] iPhone anyone?

[wouter]

On 01 Jul 2007, at 07:42, Chipp Walters wrote:

-- snip --

  - Battery good for only 400 charges, then you have to return the  
phone
  to Apple (what do you do for a phone while it's getting a new  
battery

  replacement?


-- snip --

FYI  :   http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macword/2007/07/ 
iphonebattery/index.php


Greetings,

Wouter
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RC4 Implentation from pseudocode

[Javier Miranda]

Can this "pseudocode" be implemented using Revolution? It´s an encryption
alogorithm called Alleged RC4, there are a number of base convesions and
module operations, also there is array manipulation.  Itried and failed
miserably.


FUNCION CifrarMensajeRC4(string Mensaje, string Key ) : string

NUMERO State[256], X = 0, Y = 0, Index1 = 0, Index2 = 0 , NMen, I

string MensajeCifrado = ""
INICIO


PARA I = 0 HASTA 255 HACER

State[I] = I
FIN PARA


PARA I = 0 to 255

Index2 = ( ObtieneASCII(key[Index1]) + State[I] + Index2 ) MODULE 256

IntercambiaValor( State[I], State[Index2] ) // exchange variable values

Index1 = (Index1 + 1) MODULO lenght(Key)
FIN PARA


PARA I = 0 to lenght(Mensaje)-1

X = (X + 1) MODULO 256

Y = (State[X] + Y) MODULE 256

IntercambiaValor( State[X] , State[Y] )

NMen = ObtieneASCII(Mensaje[I]) XOR State[(State[X] + State[Y]) MODULE 256]

MensajeCifrado = MensajeCifrado + "-" +
RellenaCero(ConvierteAHexadecimal(NMen))  // add a 0 if its only one char in
the string
END PARA


RETURN ObtieneSubCadena(MensajeCifrado, 1, LargoCadena(MensajeCifrado) - 1);

end FUNCION
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Re: localizing software

[Graham Samuel]

Many fine words have been written in reply to Mark Talluto's initial  
question. Personally I favour the text file version or something like  
it (my "something" is a script consisting of a set of global  
definitions which I can pass over as text to a human translator), but  
I have one other point to add, which is that if one is to refer to  
multilingual texts (whether items in menus, dialog texts, error  
messages, instructions or anything else), in a multilingual situation  
you are forced to refer to these indirectly. For example you can't write


Answer "yes, indeed"

but instead have to write something like

Answer mystringConstantYesIndeed

or maybe

Answer the mystringConstantYesIndeed of stack 'Multlingual stuff"

My point is that either version of the above is preferable to writing

Answer myStringConstant468

In other words, the author should still use meaningful names for his/ 
her strings in his/her own native language, otherwise all coding will  
have to be done with a dictionary, which takes away some of the charm  
of the human-readable scripting language which we all know and love.  
I suppose this is really saying that what Eric calls the ID of the  
text string should clearly remind the developer what the string was  
intended to say.


I hope other people agree with this approach.

Graham


Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France

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Re: New Version of Rev is available

[Klaus Major]

Hi Trevor,


On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


Anone knows what has been fixed/changed?
A little info in the "Read me"s would really not hurt anyone ;-)


The engine log says this:

Bugs Fixed in Release 3
~~~

Bug - Some encryption commands cause a crash on OS X
~~~
  Fixed.


Oops, sorry, I should read the complete "read me" the next time...


--
Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems
www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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Re: launch app from browser

[David]

The question I have is if you want to get the html link to open a rev
document - either by your application or the IDE - it seems on tests
on OSX to open multiple instances of the application and not let the
application open multiple stacks. I know this can be got around using
text files to implement locks - and I remember some issue and I think
IDE or engine enhancements to work with these issues - but can't find
them :)

How do you get an html link to a .rev file not to open multiple
instances of the app?

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Re: OT - Save the Mac Mini

[Chipp Walters]

Paul,

Still using an Imagewriter? You got to be kidding me! Where does he
find ribbons for it? Do me a favor and ask him if he's got a
Thunderscan ;-)

RE: MTBF, I think I read somewhere where hard drives now have much
better shock resistance than what we used to work with. I've always
had hard drives fail, back in the day when LaCie and other Mac vendors
sold them to us, we routinely returned them for replacement. I don't
have any real figures on MTBF, just believe it to be true. I'll look
around for more info on it.

Yep, they're saying the Asus laptop will ship from $189 to $299.

-Chipp
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Re: New Version of Rev is available

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Klaus Major wrote:


Anone knows what has been fixed/changed?
A little info in the "Read me"s would really not hurt anyone ;-)


The engine log says this:

Bugs Fixed in Release 3
~~~

Bug - Some encryption commands cause a crash on OS X
~~~
  Fixed.

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Re: OT --LONG POST HARD DRIVEs was Save the Mac Mini

[Stephen Barncard]

Ok I was thinking about getting one.. I signed #1028

Paul, I'll have to disagree here about hard drives. At least with the 
brand that I've stuck with over the years; MAXTOR drives really seem 
to last. As I use hard drives like audio and video tape (and at least 
two or three drives per project) I have gone through literally 
hundreds of hard drives over the last 7 years. I buy raw (internal) 
drives and plug them into a drive dock and use them like digital 
paper. They fit into VHS Tape cases for storage and fit nicely in 
storage systems designed for the tapes.


Before each project, I go to CompUSA and check out the latest 
price-performance combination. Back in 2003, we were lucky to get 
7200rpm 8mb cache drives for $120 US. And although rare, they would 
sometimes go bad. Keeping this same price, the next level of drives 
from Maxtor got a lot more reliable and much bigger; 7200/16/120gb 
drives started to appear. They seemed to survive a lot longer - 
although this seems counterintuitive - as more platters were added to 
increase storage size. Today Maxtor offers 320 gig drives with 16 mb 
cache for $109 US...the extra 20 is provided for that which gets 
eaten up in formatting. Yes I still buy them in pairs. Also I'm 
planning a redundant style RAID array soon with my old Cube as a main 
repository.


I attribute the longevity of these drives to good engineering, and a 
science that they carry out and improve over time. They seem to have 
conquered the dreaded power interruption problem to a great degree - 
emergency head-lifting technology has come a long way.


My failure rate is way low now. And I hit these drives hard with 
pushing multi-track audio and video delivery to limits. They get 
warm, but don't fail.


I live in San Francisco and can get anything here (Fry's), but I've 
been spending more time at my mom's house in Mobile Alabama, and it's 
a lot harder to get stuff you want there (although there is always 
mail order). It was also impossible to walk into any store and buy a 
copy of Tiger - but that's another rant). They did have some Mac 
software in a corner at Office Max, but no Tiger.


For some reason, it is hard to get MAXTOR raw drives in 
brick-and-mortar stores. They are not carried in OfficeMax, Staples, 
Target, Best Buy or Wall-Wart. These places carry the little USB2 
backup drives from Maxtor, but that's about it.


Instead, most offer WESTERN DIGITAL product. I would recommend that 
people avoid this brand. They have consistently made cheap and 
unreliable product, and are not on the leading edge. I would never 
trust my data to this brand. And their pricing is not competitive.


Seagate to me is an unknown. They don't seem to offer many bare 
drives to consumers, just packages for them and pallets for OEMs. I 
think these guys have been making drives since the 70's.


I think SONY and TEAC still make drives, but I don't see them in 
stores. Everything else is either China generic or re-branded.


sorry for the long-windedness/OT - just want to share the experience.



Consumer Reports has, for the last three years, said Apple had the most
repair-free hardware (especially the desktops) and the best tech 
support - this

based on reader surveys.
Paul Looney

PS I'm not sure MTBF HAS increased. Seems that HDs fail more frequently, RAM


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Re: New Version of Rev is available

[Klaus Major]

Hi Charles,


There is a new version of Rev available: 2.8.1-gm-3


thanks a lot for the hint!

Anone knows what has been fixed/changed?
A little info in the "Read me"s would really not hurt anyone ;-)


Regards

Klaus Major
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Re: What I did with Rev last night

[Mark Wieder]

Dom-

>my data are organized via a prefix (RR, Photo, Books...)
>I want to sub-categorize them by topic...
>I am searching for the best method to get it; for now I am relying on
>"lineoffset"

...if I understand this properly, I think you're looking for the "filter" 
command:

filter tList with "Photo*"

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Re: OT - Save the Mac Mini

[SimPLsol]

Chipp,
I too have had "issues" with Apple hardware (most notably, replacing the 
screen on this 17" laptop). But in the last two months I updated three 
companies 
who were still using all of the hardware I installed for them a decade ago. 
Another customer refuses to give up his 18 year old ImageWriter printer. Of 
course these are isolated examples and don't prove anything.
Consumer Reports has, for the last three years, said Apple had the most 
repair-free hardware (especially the desktops) and the best tech support - this 
based on reader surveys.
Paul Looney

PS I'm not sure MTBF HAS increased. Seems that HDs fail more frequently, RAM 
failure was never an issue for me until about five years ago, the old 
keyboards would last forever but some of the new ones are unusable after a year 
or so 
of hard use.
PPS The Asus' Eee PC 701 looks interesting as long as it doesn't cost more 
than an iPhone.


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Re: Why Save the Mac Mini

[SimPLsol]

Judy,
Sorry for the misapprobation and thanks for the vote.
I suspect that, the way things are going, secretaries really will need 30" 
monitors in the (not to distant) future. ;-)
When/if the time comes, I hope we don't have to buy Mac Pros to power them. 
Can you get nine more votes for "Save the Mini"? I think 10,000 is the magic 
number and I'm sure a lot of Mini advocates are not even aware of the petition:

www.petitiononline.com/macminsa/petition.html

Maybe we should have said "Save the Mini for the kids!" Thank you, again.
Paul Looney




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New Version of Rev is available

[Charles Szasz]

There is a new version of Rev available: 2.8.1--
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View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/New-Version-of-Rev-is-available-tf4075032.html#a11581484
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Re: A script question

[Eric Chatonet]

And this is the reason why locking screen every time you can is  
important:


put  into tNames
lock screen
  REPEAT for each item tName in tNames
put empty into field tName
  END REPEAT
unlock screen

Only one screen refresh :-)

Le 13 juil. 07 à 15:18, Ken Ray a écrit :


On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:13:32 +0100, Mark Smith wrote:


The 'repeat for' is generally a lot faster then the 'repeat with',
but in a case like this with only a few iterations, it wouldn't make
a noticable difference. But with long lists, it can really make a
huge difference.


Also keep in mind that in a script like this, you're "touching" a  
field

(manipulating its contents) every iteration through the loop, which
will slow it down anyway. So even if you had 1000 fields on a card I
doubt you'd gain much with "repeat for each" vs. "repeat with".


Ken Ray


Best regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet.

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Re: A script question

[Ken Ray]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:13:32 +0100, Mark Smith wrote:

> The 'repeat for' is generally a lot faster then the 'repeat with', 
> but in a case like this with only a few iterations, it wouldn't make 
> a noticable difference. But with long lists, it can really make a 
> huge difference.

Also keep in mind that in a script like this, you're "touching" a field 
(manipulating its contents) every iteration through the loop, which 
will slow it down anyway. So even if you had 1000 fields on a card I 
doubt you'd gain much with "repeat for each" vs. "repeat with". 


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
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Re: A script question

[Mark Smith]

The 'repeat for' is generally a lot faster then the 'repeat with',  
but in a case like this with only a few iterations, it wouldn't make  
a noticable difference. But with long lists, it can really make a  
huge difference.


Best,

Mark

ps. in cases like these I generally don't bother putting the list of  
names in a variable, I do this:


repeat for each item i in   
"name2,examier2,vsmiFld,vsmiFld2,ci1,vsmiFld3,vsmiFld5,vsmiFld4"

  put empty into fld i
end repeat

So there's yet another variation...

On 13 Jul 2007, at 13:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



In a message dated 7/12/07 7:58:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I have tried to use the following script to clear fields but I am  
getting a

weird error message in the script editor:
chunk: no such object
file
put empty into field tName

This is weird because field tName is a variable.

Here is the script:

put  
"name2,examier2,vsmiFld,vsmiFld2,ci1,vsmiFld3,vsmiFld5,vsmiFld4" into

tNames
REPEAT for each item tName in tNames -- Clears all fields
put empty into field tName
END REPEAT

I don't have to use this script but I hate to empty the fields the  
long way:


put empty into field "name2" of card "index"
put empty into field "examiner2" of card "index"
put empty into field "vmiFld" of card "Index"

etc.

Can anyone tell me why repeat script does not work?



I still consider myself a newbie. Up until now I have used this  
list to ask
questions when I get stumped. This question was educational for me  
too. Up

until now I would have scripted the above like this

put "name2,examiner2,vsmiFld2,ci1,vsmiFld3,vsmiFld5,vsmiFld4" into  
tNames


  repeat with R1 = 1 to num(items) of tNames
put "" into fld item R1 of tNames
   end repeat

Is there any advantage in the other method or is it just another  
way of doing
the same thing? Revolution is great in that there’s usually several  
ways of
doing something and most of the time that’s the point, Still I’d  
like to be

the most efficient.

Thanks again to all the people that contribute so much time to make  
this so

very helpful. I’d be lost without all of you.

Joe in Orlando


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Re: A script question

[LunchnMeets]

In a message dated 7/12/07 7:58:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I have tried to use the following script to clear fields but I am getting a
> weird error message in the script editor:
> chunk: no such object
> file
> put empty into field tName
> 
> This is weird because field tName is a variable.
> 
> Here is the script:
> 
> put "name2,examier2,vsmiFld,vsmiFld2,ci1,vsmiFld3,vsmiFld5,vsmiFld4" into
> tNames      
> REPEAT for each item tName in tNames -- Clears all fields
> put empty into field tName
> END REPEAT
> 
> I don't have to use this script but I hate to empty the fields the long way:
> 
> put empty into field "name2" of card "index"
> put empty into field "examiner2" of card "index"
> put empty into field "vmiFld" of card "Index"
> 
> etc.
>      
> Can anyone tell me why repeat script does not work?
> 

I still consider myself a newbie. Up until now I have used this list to ask 
questions when I get stumped. This question was educational for me too. Up 
until now I would have scripted the above like this

put "name2,examiner2,vsmiFld2,ci1,vsmiFld3,vsmiFld5,vsmiFld4" into tNames
   
  repeat with R1 = 1 to num(items) of tNames
put "" into fld item R1 of tNames
   end repeat

Is there any advantage in the other method or is it just another way of doing 
the same thing? Revolution is great in that there’s usually several ways of 
doing something and most of the time that’s the point, Still I’d like to be 
the most efficient.

Thanks again to all the people that contribute so much time to make this so 
very helpful. I’d be lost without all of you.

Joe in Orlando


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Re: launch app from browser

[viktoras didziulis]

The only way to get this working would be using HTA. Note, it works on 
MS windows (98 and up) only.

It is an html file that starts like this:


Put your title here



Click here to launch the myapp.exe


Save this file as test.hta. Thats it. HTA's have same restrictions as 
any other applications on windows. Now you can use javascript (jscript), 
vbscript, activex components and whatever you need...


If there are frames in the hta application then each frame must be 
allowed to get access to system by setting it to "application" and 
"trusted" like application="yes" trusted="yes" i.e.like:
application="yes" trusted="yes" width="100%" height="97%" marginwidth=0 
marginheight=0 frameborder=0 scrolling="auto">


Viktoras

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A script question

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Paris,

I ran :

on mouseUp
  --global tNames,tName
  put "MyField1,MyField2,MyField3,MyField4,MyField5,MyField6,MyField7," 
into tNames

  REPEAT for each item tName in tNames -- Clears all fields
--answer tName with "OK"
put empty into field tName
  END REPEAT
end mouseUp

Forget about the global declaration and the Answer command. I just like
to see what I'm doing before I comment the commands out !

Runs OK.  (although I used different field names than you !)

Check that you have no return in your "put" command. I see "tNames" on 
a new line.

That will bring up a script error.

-Francis

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Re: What I did with Rev last night

[Bridger Maxwell]

Hello,
   One interesting stack I did was for a teacher of mine.  He was switching
everything over from an older test-making program he had to a new testing
website.  However, there was no way to export the tests from the old program
into a format the website could read, so I made a stack that could take a
test and answer key, then spit out a properly formatted test file.  It was
really a simple program, but my teacher sure gave a lot of extra credit for
it.  :P

 TTFN
   Bridger Maxwell
   www.FieryFerret.com
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