Congratulations, Bill!

[Ken Ray]

I just read the recent Rev Newsletter that named Bill Marriott as 
Director of Marketing for RunRev, and I wanted to issue a hearty 
"Congratulations, Bill!" You have earned this, IMHO. You are a user 
advocate and have worked hard in the past to improve the product and 
communication with the user base. I was very excited to read the 
interview Kevin had with you and the initiatives/goals you want to 
focus on:

http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/october/issue35/newsletter1.php?id=NWSIW421249

For those who have not read this, I strongly recommend it.

Again, Bill, Congrats!


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Re: QT controller on Vista: how to change volume?

[Richard Gaskin]

I filed a bug report for this issue:


Feel free to cast your vote if you use or plan to use QuickTime on Windows.

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Re: Who was the winner in the survey?

[Kay C Lan]

On 10/19/07, Derek Bump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I was told that the survey results would not be released to the
> public, and I was also told that the survey winners would not be posted
> publicly.


:-(

Thanks for passing that on.
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Re: SOAP Library - More

[Mark Wieder]

David-

> I've re-structured it quite a bit, I need to fix a few problems, then 
> I'll release it back. I've made it a lot more general purpose and  much 
> easier to use.

Great. I'm looking forward to it. And can definitely put it to use.

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Re: Leopard

[J. Landman Gay]

Ken Ray wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:42:40 -0600, Chris Sheffield wrote:


Shari,

I've been doing some Leopard testing myself and have not run into 
issues like these. I have seen a couple strange things where default 
buttons are not "throbbing" as they should and just look like normal 
buttons, even though they still behave as default. I've also found in 
one app that audio does not play. Not sure if this is some sort of 
QuickTime/Rev issue with Leopard or what. But as far as UB apps 
running, that works just fine for me. I'm running the latest Leopard 
developer seed on a new 20" iMac, core 2 duo 2.4 GHz, 2 GB ram.


Anyway, just thought I'd chime in and let you know my findings.


Yes, and I discovered that buttons could not be resized vertically 
properly (the button rect was enlarged, but the visual part of the 
button itself remained the same), in addition to a few other oddities. 
But this was from a developer build of Leopard from a couple of months 
ago, so it may not be relevant anymore...


My client reports that on the most recent Leopard build, the card window 
does not redraw correctly when it loses focus. The main stack has a 
metal window and that may be the problem (we're investigating) but as of 
now, showing a substack or even opening another unrelated application 
causes the main window to go completely blank. It retains the metal 
texture but shows no visible controls of any kind. Clicking into the 
main stack, back out to the Finder (or any other app,) and then back to 
the main stack forces it to redraw properly. Has anyone seen this? I 
don't have Leopard installed to check it.


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Re: Revolution => Flash

[Ken Ray]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:46:58 -0400, Andres Martinez wrote:

> This email is to tell you that I was able to do it :  ). 
> Unfortunately is not a technology but a technique and there are a lot 
> of limitations on the elements that you can export, so if any of you 
> is ever interested I can share the things that I've learned the hard 
> way.

I am very much interested too, so please share (either on- or off-list).

:-)


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Re: Leopard

[Ken Ray]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:42:40 -0600, Chris Sheffield wrote:

> Shari,
> 
> I've been doing some Leopard testing myself and have not run into 
> issues like these. I have seen a couple strange things where default 
> buttons are not "throbbing" as they should and just look like normal 
> buttons, even though they still behave as default. I've also found in 
> one app that audio does not play. Not sure if this is some sort of 
> QuickTime/Rev issue with Leopard or what. But as far as UB apps 
> running, that works just fine for me. I'm running the latest Leopard 
> developer seed on a new 20" iMac, core 2 duo 2.4 GHz, 2 GB ram.
> 
> Anyway, just thought I'd chime in and let you know my findings.

Yes, and I discovered that buttons could not be resized vertically 
properly (the button rect was enlarged, but the visual part of the 
button itself remained the same), in addition to a few other oddities. 
But this was from a developer build of Leopard from a couple of months 
ago, so it may not be relevant anymore...

Just FYI,

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Re: iSight, video Library

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi François,

i made  very simple stack that records fine using iSight. Write me  
off-list and I'll send it to you.


Best regards,

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Op 18-okt-2007, om 22:55 heeft Francois Chaplais het volgende  
geschreven:


I have a builtin iSight video camera (USB); it works fine in iMovie  
'08, but I can't use it for recording in Revolution


-

Hardware: latest Mac Book Pro with built in iSight on USB bus

iSight intégrée :

  Version : 1.45
  Alimentation du BUS (mA) :500
  Vitesse : Jusqu’à 480 Mb/s
  Fabricant :   Apple Inc.
  Identifiant du produit :  0x8502
  Numéro de série : E06A9E1F682E36D4 (03.01)
  Identifiant du fournisseur :  0x05ac  (Apple Computer, Inc.)

Software: latest Tiger, rev studio 2.8.1, QT 7.2

---

a simple button script (and what happens in comments)

on mouseUp
  revInitializeVideoGrabber "videoWin","QT",the rect of stack  
"videoWin" -- window is 640X480
  revVideoGrabDialog "" -- argument is indeed required for dialog;  
dialog provides a functional preview
revPreviewVideo -- source is iSight; from this until  
"revStopPreviewingVideo" the iSight LED is ON

wait 2 seconds -- iSight LED is on, but nothing on screen display
revStopPreviewingVideo -- isight LED goes off
revCloseVideoGrabber -- video screen area is released
end mouseUp

another one
on mouseUp
  ask file "Please Name you video file"
  if it is not empty then
revInitializeVideoGrabber "videoWin","QT",the rect of stack  
"videoWin" -- window is 640X480

revVideoGrabDialog "" -- dialog provides a functional preview
revRecordVideo it -- isight LED is on
wait 2 seconds  -- isight LED is on
revStopRecordingVideo
revCloseVideoGrabber -- video screen area is released
  end if
end mouseUp
The resulting file is 180 KB is is not viewable by QT




Similar problems? (replacing "QT" by "WFW" does not solve the problem)

Best regards,

Francois


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iSight, video Library

[Francois Chaplais]

I have a builtin iSight video camera (USB); it works fine in iMovie  
'08, but I can't use it for recording in Revolution


-

Hardware: latest Mac Book Pro with built in iSight on USB bus

iSight intégrée :

  Version : 1.45
  Alimentation du BUS (mA) :500
  Vitesse : Jusqu’à 480 Mb/s
  Fabricant :   Apple Inc.
  Identifiant du produit :  0x8502
  Numéro de série : E06A9E1F682E36D4 (03.01)
  Identifiant du fournisseur :  0x05ac  (Apple Computer, Inc.)

Software: latest Tiger, rev studio 2.8.1, QT 7.2

---

a simple button script (and what happens in comments)

on mouseUp
  revInitializeVideoGrabber "videoWin","QT",the rect of stack  
"videoWin" -- window is 640X480
  revVideoGrabDialog "" -- argument is indeed required for dialog;  
dialog provides a functional preview
revPreviewVideo -- source is iSight; from this until  
"revStopPreviewingVideo" the iSight LED is ON

wait 2 seconds -- iSight LED is on, but nothing on screen display
revStopPreviewingVideo -- isight LED goes off
revCloseVideoGrabber -- video screen area is released
end mouseUp

another one
on mouseUp
  ask file "Please Name you video file"
  if it is not empty then
revInitializeVideoGrabber "videoWin","QT",the rect of stack  
"videoWin" -- window is 640X480

revVideoGrabDialog "" -- dialog provides a functional preview
revRecordVideo it -- isight LED is on
wait 2 seconds  -- isight LED is on
revStopRecordingVideo
revCloseVideoGrabber -- video screen area is released
  end if
end mouseUp
The resulting file is 180 KB is is not viewable by QT




Similar problems? (replacing "QT" by "WFW" does not solve the problem)

Best regards,

Francois


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Re: QT controller on Vista: how to change volume?

[Richard Gaskin]

Andre Garzia

what I'll tell here qualify as an ugly hack. If there's no way for you
to use QT player on vista (I don't have vista to test things) then you
can use a rect to put an altBrowser window and set the movie there
using the htmltext property of altBrowser. You can load quicktime
there or a flash video player like jeromes.


Everything else in the player works great, and the player object is so 
tightly integrated with the rest of this UI I'd hate to complicate it by 
attempting to wrap it into a browser.


All I was looking for here is confirmation that the sound volume control 
is difficult or impossible to use in Rev on Vista.


Have you tried it?

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Re: QT controller on Vista: how to change volume?

[Andre Garzia]

Richard,

what I'll tell here qualify as an ugly hack. If there's no way for you
to use QT player on vista (I don't have vista to test things) then you
can use a rect to put an altBrowser window and set the movie there
using the htmltext property of altBrowser. You can load quicktime
there or a flash video player like jeromes.

Yes it is a hack but everybody and his dog can use youTUBE so the
chance of failing using an web renderer to play video these days is
not big.

andre

On 10/18/07, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try this in Rev on Vista:
>
> 1. Make a new mainstack.
> 2. Add a Player object.
> 3. Assign a movie to it.
> 4. Change the sound volume using the controller's
> popup panel.
>
> Are you able to do that?
>
> Here I get the popop panel flashing briefly but it doesn't stay up to
> let me use it.
>
> Anyone know a workaround for this?
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QT controller on Vista: how to change volume?

[Richard Gaskin]

Try this in Rev on Vista:

1. Make a new mainstack.
2. Add a Player object.
3. Assign a movie to it.
4. Change the sound volume using the controller's
   popup panel.

Are you able to do that?

Here I get the popop panel flashing briefly but it doesn't stay up to 
let me use it.


Anyone know a workaround for this?

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The Documentation

[Richmond Mathewson]

The following are possible:

1. A link to the wiki in the RR Documentation stack.

2. A stack that could periodically download the wiki
into itself.

As RR now allows one to build functioning web-browsers
it might be a good idea to have a dedicated stack in
the UI that accesses the wiki "at eh click of a
button".

The possibilites are endless; just takes a while for
some folks to think outside the standard model - the
wiki stems from the Open Source initiative; now while
RR is commercial there is no good reason why some of
us motivated types cannot contribute 'openy' stuff
that RR can choose to attach to their product should
they wish to; and should they not cn be made widely
available and accessible through channels that already
exist.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson




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Re: The Documentation

[Mark Swindell]

I feel that the document structure Bjornke and Andre have crafted  
offers the best of both worlds.


It makes use of the official docs while integrating what is  
functionally an editable, wiki-like user interface for user  
extensions, clarifications, and examples.  Web-based Wikis can't  
match the form or function.  Clearly the interface could improve  
cosmetically and even functionally, I guess (there's always room for  
improvement).  But it's a great model.


Mark

On Oct 18, 2007, at 2:53 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Timothy Miller wrote:

"Docs too terse. Experienced users comprehend. Others
struggle."

Many people have accused me of prolixity; never the
reverse :)

I am perfectly happy to supply the password for the
wiki to those who e-mail me off list and have
recognisable names - don't really want the wiki full
of pictures of people's anatomy or silly adverts for
v*^gr$.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson





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Interactive Documentation — what's needed ?

[Paul Gabel]

Could somebody lay out what would be involved in organizing and  
maintaining an interactive user manual? What skills would be needed?  
How much time? Financial investment? How would it be set up? Editing  
authority? etc.


Paul Gabel
On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:40 AM, Mikey wrote:

Since you failed to use the haiku form, Dr. Miller, I will lend my  
aid.


User Manual
Written With Others In Mind
Who will tend to it?
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Re: Who was the winner in the survey?

[Derek Bump]

Kay,

I sent a request to RunRev Support for the Survey Results and Winners
List.  I was told that the survey results would not be released to the
public, and I was also told that the survey winners would not be posted
publicly.

They did tell me who won though.  Congrats to the winners!


Derek Bump
Dreamscape Software
http://www.dreamscapesoftware.com


Kay C Lan wrote:
> On 10/17/07, Derek Bump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I never heard any announcement as to who
>> won the Survey that RunRev was doing about 2 months ago.
> 
> 
> 
> As a 'never won anything' kinda guy, I'm not so much interested in who won,
> but what the actual survey results were. I asked on this List recently as to
> whether they were posted anywhere, but didn't get a response :-( Lost again
> ;-)
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Re: OS X - Parental Controls: can't start my runrev runtime

[Richard Gaskin]

Luis wrote:

>>> On 17 Oct 2007, at 22:52, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 So I then modified the plist within that app's bundle, and a key
 and string as you noted, and I get the same prompt.
>>> Remember that the Finder doesn't look into the plist file
>>> automatically when you change the file. :(
>>> I zip the app, delete the original and unzip it, this forces the
>>> Finder to look again.
>>
>> After doing this I still got the "...does not work with the
>> limitations you have selected" error when I tried to add the app to
>> the account permissions in the Accounts control panel.
>>
>> But interestingly, I find that when I log into that account I can
>> still run that app in that limited account.
>>
>> Ah, the mysteries of Apple's security mechanisms
>
> Have you tried doing a 'Repair Permissions' (don't do the 'Verify
> Permissions') in Disk Utility?

I had done so yesterday before testing, but on a lark I just ran it 
again and now I can add my app.


Weird UI problem there, though:  it doesn't show up under "Applications" 
in the list there, even though that's the folder it's in.  I opened the 
tab for "Other", then did the "Locate...", and then it didn't show up 
under "Others" but was listed among the "Applications", unchecked, 
however.  So I just checked it and it was all good from there.


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Re: OS X - Parental Controls: can't start my runrev runtime

[Luis]

Hiya,

Have you tried doing a 'Repair Permissions' (don't do the 'Verify  
Permissions') in Disk Utility?


Cheers,

Luis.


On 18 Oct 2007, at 16:33, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Ian Wood wrote:


On 17 Oct 2007, at 22:52, Richard Gaskin wrote:
So I then modified the plist within that app's bundle, and a key   
and string as you noted, and I get the same prompt.
Remember that the Finder doesn't look into the plist file   
automatically when you change the file. :(
I zip the app, delete the original and unzip it, this forces the   
Finder to look again.


After doing this I still got the "...does not work with the  
limitations you have selected" error when I tried to add the app to  
the account permissions in the Accounts control panel.


But interestingly, I find that when I log into that account I can  
still run that app in that limited account.


Ah, the mysteries of Apple's security mechanisms

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Re: OS X - Parental Controls: can't start my runrev runtime

[Richard Gaskin]

Ian Wood wrote:

On 17 Oct 2007, at 22:52, Richard Gaskin wrote: 
So I then modified the plist within that app's bundle, and a key  
and string as you noted, and I get the same prompt.


Remember that the Finder doesn't look into the plist file  
automatically when you change the file. :(


I zip the app, delete the original and unzip it, this forces the  
Finder to look again.


After doing this I still got the "...does not work with the limitations 
you have selected" error when I tried to add the app to the account 
permissions in the Accounts control panel.


But interestingly, I find that when I log into that account I can still 
run that app in that limited account.


Ah, the mysteries of Apple's security mechanisms

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Re: getting those pesky spaces out of a PostgreSQL select

[Len Morgan]

Perhaps you could write a little external that could talk to the backend 
directly (although there isn't really much you
can't do from within psql).  There is a "driver" for just about any 
language you can think of in postgres.  In fact, if you
look at the .tcl driver code (my personal favorite), you can see how to 
make a postgres driver IN TRANSCRIPT.  The

only requirement is that you be able to read and write a socket in binary.

I might even give this a try even though I'm on windows.

len morgan


Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote:

Len Morgan wrote:
Can I ask why you are using psql instead of the rev functions (which 
don't pad)?


Rev Database Functions: You Wish! We Wish!

This is the 2.6.1 engine running on a linux web server...
so, it is relatively "crippled" dBase wise.

all the power tools we would love to be able to
use on a web server installation are simply not available.

Crossing our fingers that this will all change
with 2.9




len morgan


Sadhunathan Nadesan wrote:

Swami

It appears that the -A option to psql does what you want.  It's right
at the beginning of the man entry for psql.

To see this in action log in to vel and cd to /tmp, then run

psql htde -f event.sql

It looks like this

 user_id | event_code | event_time  |  description
-++-+ 

878  | AU | 2008-06-02 13:18:45 | user: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
878  | VI | 2008-06-02 13:20:28 | Hinduism Today Digital 
Edition July/August/September 2007
878  | DB | 2008-06-02 13:20:28 | 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/cover_2007-07-01.jpg
878  | DE | 2008-06-02 13:20:33 | 
http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/cover_2007-07-01.jpg


next run psql -A htde -f event.sql and it looks like this

user_id|event_code|event_time|description
878|AU|2008-06-02 13:18:45|user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
878|VI|2008-06-02 13:20:28|Hinduism Today Digital Edition 
July/August/September 2007
878|DB|2008-06-02 
13:20:28|http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/cover_2007-07-01.jpg 

878|DE|2008-06-02 
13:20:33|http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/cover_2007-07-01.jpg 

878|DB|2008-06-02 
13:20:33|http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/pdf/section-1_2007-07-01_p01-17.pdf 

878|DE|2008-06-02 
13:26:33|http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2007/7-9/pdf/section-1_2007-07-01_p01-17.pdf 




So does that do it for you?

Aloha,
Sadhu

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Re: The Documentation

[Mikey]

Since you failed to use the haiku form, Dr. Miller, I will lend my aid.

User Manual
Written With Others In Mind
Who will tend to it?
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Re: Problem Running Under Windows

[Mark Schonewille]

I wrote a reply. You can find it here.




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Op 18-okt-2007, om 13:34 heeft David Burgun het volgende geschreven:


Hi All,

Apologies if this message has already been posted/answered. My  
email has been playing up and I lost a load of emails last night.  
If this has been answered, would someone mind forwarding me the  
replies?


I'm still trying make this work and not having much luck at present!

Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave


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Problem Running Under Windows

[David Burgun]

Hi All,

Apologies if this message has already been posted/answered. My email  
has been playing up and I lost a load of emails last night. If this  
has been answered, would someone mind forwarding me the replies?


I'm still trying make this work and not having much luck at present!

Thanks a lot
All the Best
Dave
 
*

Hi,

I have an Application that works ok when running under the RunRev IDE  
and as a Standalone on Mac OS X. However, when I run the start on  
Windows under the IDE, I get the following error:


Type:  Chunk: Can't find stack
Object: CardStartup
Line: else
Hint: ISMColdStart

After stepping thru with the debugger, I found that the error is  
generated when this line is executed:


get value("ISMColdStart(" & myDebugEnableFlag & "," & quote &  
myRunTimeStacksFolderPathName & quote & ")", myColdStartStackLongName)


The values of the variables are:

myDebugEnableFlag = "false"
myRunTimeStacksFolderPathName = "C:/Documents and Settings/BWolff/ 
Desktop/RunRevBase/Projects/GenX/RunTime/Stacks/"
myColdStartStackLongName = "stack C:/Documents and Settings/BWolff/ 
Desktop/RunRevBase/GlobalStacks/StackISM.rev"


The folders and the file exist ok at the location stated above.

One thing I tried is to cut and paste the contents of  
myRunTimeStacksFolderPathName into the message box as a command go  
stack C:/Documents and Settings/BWolff/Desktop/RunRevBase/ 
GlobalStacks/StackISM.rev"


And this loads the stack as expected.

Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong here?

All the Best
Dave

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Re: OS X - Parental Controls: can't start my runrev runtime

[Ian Wood]

On 17 Oct 2007, at 22:52, Richard Gaskin wrote:

So I then modified the plist within that app's bundle, and a key  
and string as you noted, and I get the same prompt.


Remember that the Finder doesn't look into the plist file  
automatically when you change the file. :(


I zip the app, delete the original and unzip it, this forces the  
Finder to look again.


Ian
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The Documentation

[Richmond Mathewson]

Timothy Miller wrote:

"Docs too terse. Experienced users comprehend. Others
struggle."

Many people have accused me of prolixity; never the
reverse :)

I am perfectly happy to supply the password for the
wiki to those who e-mail me off list and have
recognisable names - don't really want the wiki full
of pictures of people's anatomy or silly adverts for
v*^gr$.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson





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Re: Revolution => Flash

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Andres,

Please share. It would be especially interesting if we could automate  
the process.


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Op 18-okt-2007, om 5:46 heeft Andres Martinez het volgende geschreven:


Hello

I made the question about how to generate Flash animations with  
Revolution a few days ago, and that email opened a Pandora's box. I  
don't want to touch that subject again.


This email is to tell you that I was able to do it :  ).  
Unfortunately is not a technology but a technique and there are a  
lot of limitations on the elements that you can export, so if any  
of you is ever interested I can share the things that I've learned  
the hard way.


Regards,
Andres



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Re: Doing in RR what we used to do in HC.

[Kay C Lan]

On 10/17/07, wayne durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Sometimes a reference
> book is pure cold nuts and bolts, and sometimes its a fun, human, truly
> helpful work of art.
>
> We need one of the later ...


Which reminds me. Where did Dan go? Haven't seen him on the List for ages.
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